I'm hungover, and stuck at work, let's chat.

BPer

Also, my friend submitted the texts from a total cray to byefelipe, and they reposted.

...on the first date, this guy stripped down naked on her couch while she used the bathroom, and when she turned him down, he asked if he could just rub it in between her legs with her pants on and get off that way.

Hyaline

kdsmith43 said:

In 2015, I plan to take off one day each month to do thorough house cleaning while T is at daycare and H is at work. That's what I did on Friday and I got so much done. I even sent H to the golf course just to get him out of my hair. I feel like I am so much more stressed out when the house is a mess and it would be nice to have that full day to do the deep cleaning and organization. 

I really need some storage suggestions for all of these toys. We have most of the toys in the spare bedroom but I would like to get everything contained into one room. I just don't see how it is going to be possible.

I deliberately keep about half out in the family room and stash the rest in an unused closet.  She just doesn't need that much out at once, and the clutter would drive me batshit.  Plus, it's like Christmas every time I rotate in a newold toy.

BPer

Just realized I can still see (like, and comment on) certain posts on BFF's ex-husband's wall, despite his unfriending all of her friends.

One of the posts was a countdown to their wedding day.

I decided to "like" it, just to freak him the fuck out.

Hyaline

BPer said:

Hannah is repeatedly getting out of bed in the middle of the night, even with the OK to Wake clock.

I hear her little feet coming down the hallway, and she brings her giant blanket and lovey...like she's planning on just moving in.  At first she was just waking early and coming in our room, and how it's at all hours of the night.

I'm pretty sure we'll never be able to sleep train Ben when the time comes because the second she hears anything, she thinks it's time to get up for the day.

...also, I wish that it wasn't too early to sleep train.  Kid is a horrible sleeper.

FFwhateverthehelldayitisC: We sleep-trained DD at about 5 1/2 months.  Yes, I know that's "too early" but I could tell she was ready--making sleep associations and not getting enough sleep doing the newborn sleep wherever thing.  You know your kiddo--if you think he's ready and that training will help him to be a better sleeper, I trust you over some researcher with a clipboard working averages.

Hyaline

IndigoVader said:

I would buy a roomba just to watch my cats and kids chase it.

Max has been singing,"bootsandpants and bootsandpants" from the Geico commercial. What I hear is ,"putapanties, putapanties." (Bitch panties) Cracks me up everytime.

I want to train my cat to ride a roomba.  Somehow I feel this would not be a wise investment.

LOL DD sings the bootsnpants song when it's time to put her boots on when we leave the house! Hilarity. 

kelbel527

I'm currently "watching" our annual ethics training in the background right now.  It's basically the same thing every single year.  I don't get the point in making us watch the same thing year over year.  The definition of all things ethical haven't changed in the last year.  I don't really understand the point.

Then again, that's why I don't work in HR.

BPer

Hyaline said:

BPer said:

Hannah is repeatedly getting out of bed in the middle of the night, even with the OK to Wake clock.

I hear her little feet coming down the hallway, and she brings her giant blanket and lovey...like she's planning on just moving in.  At first she was just waking early and coming in our room, and how it's at all hours of the night.

I'm pretty sure we'll never be able to sleep train Ben when the time comes because the second she hears anything, she thinks it's time to get up for the day.

...also, I wish that it wasn't too early to sleep train.  Kid is a horrible sleeper.

FFwhateverthehelldayitisC: We sleep-trained DD at about 5 1/2 months.  Yes, I know that's "too early" but I could tell she was ready--making sleep associations and not getting enough sleep doing the newborn sleep wherever thing.  You know your kiddo--if you think he's ready and that training will help him to be a better sleeper, I trust you over some researcher with a clipboard working averages.

He STTN for 3 weeks straight around 3 months, 11-12 hours, and then just stopped.  He hit the 4 month "wakeful" and just never snapped out of it.  He goes down fine, but when he wakes in the MOTN, the only thing that will soothe him is a bottle, and I'm only giving him 2oz at this point, so I know he's not relying on it for nutrition.

Did you do CIO?  Full extinction, or with checks?

tinyhumantoe

Hey y'all!

It only took 3 hours and a destroyed bedroom for W to fall asleep today. We are now debating buying a second crib.

I am sitting here trying to get some work done during her nap bc my sitter took off Christmas Eve through Jan 5. I'm confused because she is taking "teacher" vacations but 90% of her kids are not teacher kids.

Then I got a text. Her husband is going in for surgery on his arm Jan 21. They say it can be as long as a 5-6 day stay for monitoring. So she is taking off Jan 21-28. I'm confused.... Day 6 would be Jan 26.

So now I'm crying because it is something else every other week with the sitter. Any time I take off will be cutting in to my maternity leave which was only supposed to be 6 weeks. My mom works and my MIL is constantly having to fill in but she will be in CO that week . DH can't help because of his new role at work.

We just have to find another childcare privider and I'm sad because now I feel rushed to find one before the baby comes, and i know the cost will be so much more.

Hyaline

BPer said:

Hyaline said:

BPer said:

Hannah is repeatedly getting out of bed in the middle of the night, even with the OK to Wake clock.

I hear her little feet coming down the hallway, and she brings her giant blanket and lovey...like she's planning on just moving in.  At first she was just waking early and coming in our room, and how it's at all hours of the night.

I'm pretty sure we'll never be able to sleep train Ben when the time comes because the second she hears anything, she thinks it's time to get up for the day.

...also, I wish that it wasn't too early to sleep train.  Kid is a horrible sleeper.

FFwhateverthehelldayitisC: We sleep-trained DD at about 5 1/2 months.  Yes, I know that's "too early" but I could tell she was ready--making sleep associations and not getting enough sleep doing the newborn sleep wherever thing.  You know your kiddo--if you think he's ready and that training will help him to be a better sleeper, I trust you over some researcher with a clipboard working averages.

He STTN for 3 weeks straight around 3 months, 11-12 hours, and then just stopped.  He hit the 4 month "wakeful" and just never snapped out of it.  He goes down fine, but when he wakes in the MOTN, the only thing that will soothe him is a bottle, and I'm only giving him 2oz at this point, so I know he's not relying on it for nutrition.

Did you do CIO?  Full extinction, or with checks?

We did CIO--I intended to do the gradual method, but checking on her just made her angry, so we went for full extinction after the first couple rounds of checking. Once we started full extinction, she was going down with no fussing within a week.  She still didn't STTN--she was BFing and woke to eat around 3 a.m.--but she did go back down to sleep after that.  Establishing a bedtime routine was probably even more important than the CIO method we used--she really cued into "storytime, pjs, song" as her routine and it helped a ton.

I probably wouldn't have gone for training her so early, except she truly was "training" herself already--she would only sleep with me next to her, she would stir and wake completely if I so much as edged away from her, let alone tried to move her to a crib or bassinet.  She was sleeping like crap.  So...we went for it and everyone was much happier, including her.

tinyhumantoe

Any advice on the big kid bed? Should I bring the crib back? No think we're on week 3 of the bed with better success at night, and total disaster with at-home naps.

She slept the whole night on the hallway floor last night. Today I put a gate up to trap her in her room and supernannied her for a half hour. Then she crashed around in there and slammed her door for 2.5 more before falling asleep. She's probably on her floor.

BeebopandBuddy

tinyhumantoe said:

Hey y'all!

It only took 3 hours and a destroyed bedroom for W to fall asleep today. We are now debating buying a second crib.

I am sitting here trying to get some work done during her nap bc my sitter took off Christmas Eve through Jan 5. I'm confused because she is taking "teacher" vacations but 90% of her kids are not teacher kids.

Then I got a text. Her husband is going in for surgery on his arm Jan 21. They say it can be as long as a 5-6 day stay for monitoring. So she is taking off Jan 21-28. I'm confused.... Day 6 would be Jan 26.

So now I'm crying because it is something else every other week with the sitter. Any time I take off will be cutting in to my maternity leave which was only supposed to be 6 weeks. My mom works and my MIL is constantly having to fill in but she will be in CO that week . DH can't help because of his new role at work.

We just have to find another childcare privider and I'm sad because now I feel rushed to find one before the baby comes, and i know the cost will be so much more.

So sorry THT. That sucks.

That's what led is to fire our nanny. The constant days off or threats of days off. It was worth the extra money for the peace of mind.

tinyhumantoe

Ive tried SIO and LHKTWD with W. You know.... Scream it out and Let her kick the walls down. Neither are working

kelbel527

tinyhumantoe said:

Hey y'all! It only took 3 hours and a destroyed bedroom for W to fall asleep today. We are now debating buying a second crib. I am sitting here trying to get some work done during her nap bc my sitter took off Christmas Eve through Jan 5. I'm confused because she is taking "teacher" vacations but 90% of her kids are not teacher kids. Then I got a text. Her husband is going in for surgery on his arm Jan 21. They say it can be as long as a 5-6 day stay for monitoring. So she is taking off Jan 21-28. I'm confused.... Day 6 would be Jan 26. So now I'm crying because it is something else every other week with the sitter. Any time I take off will be cutting in to my maternity leave which was only supposed to be 6 weeks. My mom works and my MIL is constantly having to fill in but she will be in CO that week . DH can't help because of his new role at work. We just have to find another childcare privider and I'm sad because now I feel rushed to find one before the baby comes, and i know the cost will be so much more.

Ugh!  That's so stressful.  I hope you can find a provider that you feel comfortable with in a short period of time.  The extra money is probably worth the peace of mind, knowing that you won't have to take off all the time.  

Hyaline

tinyhumantoe said:

Any advice on the big kid bed? Should I bring the crib back? No think we're on week 3 of the bed with better success at night, and total disaster with at-home naps. She slept the whole night on the hallway floor last night. Today I put a gate up to trap her in her room and supernannied her for a half hour. Then she crashed around in there and slammed her door for 2.5 more before falling asleep. She's probably on her floor.

Do you think the problem is the bed or naps? That is--we're starting to hit rough patches with naps (guess who is currently crying instead of napping...) and I'm wondering if we're transitioning on the nap front.  If she's sleeping in her bed at night with no issue, but naps are giving you fits, maybe the problem is naps.  I'm not saying ditch naps--but approach the issue as a nap issue, not a bed issue.

BPer

@tinyhumantoe  DD did great at first in the big girl bed, but has regressed quite a bit since moving into the new house.

For the first month, she literally would not nap in her bed on the weekends.  I would end up driving around for over an hour with both kids so that she wouldn't completely lose her shit.

That was fun.

I hope it gets better for you soon.  I think I'll try the gate approach too, because she freaked the eff out the one time I locked the door.  Maybe it would calm her to be able to see out.

Hyaline

BeebopandBuddy said:

Hey y'all! It only took 3 hours and a destroyed bedroom for W to fall asleep today. We are now debating buying a second crib. I am sitting here trying to get some work done during her nap bc my sitter took off Christmas Eve through Jan 5. I'm confused because she is taking "teacher" vacations but 90% of her kids are not teacher kids. Then I got a text. Her husband is going in for surgery on his arm Jan 21. They say it can be as long as a 5-6 day stay for monitoring. So she is taking off Jan 21-28. I'm confused.... Day 6 would be Jan 26. So now I'm crying because it is something else every other week with the sitter. Any time I take off will be cutting in to my maternity leave which was only supposed to be 6 weeks. My mom works and my MIL is constantly having to fill in but she will be in CO that week . DH can't help because of his new role at work. We just have to find another childcare privider and I'm sad because now I feel rushed to find one before the baby comes, and i know the cost will be so much more.

So sorry THT. That sucks. That's what led is to fire our nanny. The constant days off or threats of days off. It was worth the extra money for the peace of mind.

This.  Reliable childcare is worth the money. I'm happy paying our center more than an in-home or sitter would cost because there is no chance of random days off or calling in sick.  

tinyhumantoe

@hyaline
The bed is a problem in itself. She's so tired at night that it's not a 3 hour ordeal, but the freedom to get up is an issue. Some nights she's in our room 3-5 times(ETA like 1, 2, 4, 5 am) others she'll make it to 730am.

The naps are an issue but she would cry and holler maybe 15 min in the crib before falling asleep. She takes naps at daycare on a cot and at MIL's in a crib with no problem.

So to answer your question, I have no effing clue which the primary issue is. I would guess 70% bed problem and 30% nap? But who knows

How long does the crying last for you? Is she still in a crib?

Hyaline

tinyhumantoe said:

tinyhumantoe said:

Any advice on the big kid bed? Should I bring the crib back? No think we're on week 3 of the bed with better success at night, and total disaster with at-home naps. She slept the whole night on the hallway floor last night. Today I put a gate up to trap her in her room and supernannied her for a half hour. Then she crashed around in there and slammed her door for 2.5 more before falling asleep. She's probably on her floor.

Do you think the problem is the bed or naps? That is--we're starting to hit rough patches with naps (guess who is currently crying instead of napping...) and I'm wondering if we're transitioning on the nap front.  If she's sleeping in her bed at night with no issue, but naps are giving you fits, maybe the problem is naps.  I'm not saying ditch naps--but approach the issue as a nap issue, not a bed issue.

The bed is a problem in itself. She's so tired at night that it's not a 3 hour ordeal, but the freedom to get up is an issue. Some nights she's in our room 3-5 times, others she'll make it to 730am. The naps are an issue but she would cry and holler maybe 15 min in the crib before falling asleep. She takes naps at daycare on a cot and at MIL's in a crib with no problem. So to answer your question, I have no effing clue which the primary issue is. I would guess 70% bed problem and 30% nap? But who knows How long does the crying last for you? Is she still in a crib?

Still in the baby cage here, and it depends.  If she's ready and willing for a nap, she'll be asleep in five minutes, no crying.  If she's in a mood about the nap, 20 minutes or so of fussing and whining and crying.  If she's absolutely refusing, the crying doesn't stop and we forget about trying for the nap because Christ on a cracker, that kid can make a police siren sound quiet.  If she's not asleep in half an hour, she's not going to give in, and we usually give up and do a quiet activity like watch a movie or color instead.

Sorry W is being a pill about sleeping--the getting up at night would drive me nuts.

tinyhumantoe

Thanks ladies, I think I'm on the worth the extra cost wagon.

I just have one dumb thing making me sad. I liked the idea that W would get to be around her little sister during the day instead of separated in different age groups. Maybe their own separate time will be more beneficial though.

tinyhumantoe

@bper I'm scared about her carrying on like this with the baby, or going into the baby's room. Have you had issues with that?

BPer

tinyhumantoe said:

@bper I'm scared about her carrying on like this with the baby, or going into the baby's room. Have you had issues with that?

She hasn't gone into Ben's room yet, but she came close Saturday morning.

She woke up ridiculously early, so we sent her back to her room to play until her "clock turns green".  She decided to grab a bunch of toys and dump them out on our bedroom floor, which was great.

I managed to fall back asleep, even with her in there, and then around 7 she came up and poked me in the face and said "Benjy is waking up, I'm going to check on him".  She had taken the video monitor and was walking around with it waiting for him to wake up.  She's kind of a pain in the ass, actually. Haha.

tinyhumantoe

I wonder if she'll climb/jump out of the crib now that she's had freedom.

I was supposed to start potty training today. EL OH EL. Didn't happen, ain't gonna happen.

kelbel527

tinyhumantoe said:

Thanks ladies, I think I'm on the worth the extra cost wagon. I just have one dumb thing making me sad. I liked the idea that W would get to be around her little sister during the day instead of separated in different age groups. Maybe their own separate time will be more beneficial though.

If you go to a center and they're in separate rooms, I would talk to them about visiting each other during the day.  When Aedan started at our daycare they used to take Brody on walks to visit his brother.  It was really sweet that they got to see each other during the day and I think it helped Aedan have a familiar face in the room, even if it was a short time period.  I'm sure not every center would do that, but it's something to ask.

tinyhumantoe

@kelbel527‌ I like that i hate that I'm removing W from all of her friends and weekday life as she's always known it. I am so sad about this, I blame hormones.

@bper that is kind of funny haha! my kid is also a pain in the ass, no doubt.

She legit gave me a titty twister that had me hysterical crying yesterday...because she got pissed at me. It was so painful that it made both of my boobs leak for a half hour. It is still sore.

BPer

Toddlers can be real, assholes.

On Christmas Eve, Hannah was trying to steal chapstick off of H's nightstand, and when he shot her down, she said "Listen, child!"

WTF?  Clearly picked that one up from daycare.  I don't think I've ever said that.

Later it was "Geeze Louise, child!"

kelbel527

tinyhumantoe said:

@kelbel527‌ I like that i hate that I'm removing W from all of her friends and weekday life as she's always known it. I am so sad about this, I blame hormones.

I felt the same way when we moved Brody from our daycare to a 4K program and I had no hormones to blame.  I was so stressed and emotional about the whole thing, even though it was the right thing and he's doing great.  It's tough when you change up their routine, especially when they spend so much of their time there.

tinyhumantoe

Our offices are closed and the automated message states the days. So does my work and cell VM.

I can see what calls are coming in to the office from my cell.

Worlds most annoying customer who "had a check in the mail" 3 weeks ago then *poof* disappeared and quit answering my calls... Just called 7 times in a row, left me 2 vms, called my cell twice and left another vm, then texted me "urgent." Hahaha I am picturing grumpy cat's HO HO NO meme Her 'need' is about as urgent as me needing an m&m mcflurry right this second.

tinyhumantoe

How's your hangover @BPer‌
A McDonald's cheeseburger is always the fix for me

AKB090609

BPer said:

Hyaline said:

BPer said:

Hannah is repeatedly getting out of bed in the middle of the night, even with the OK to Wake clock.

I hear her little feet coming down the hallway, and she brings her giant blanket and lovey...like she's planning on just moving in.  At first she was just waking early and coming in our room, and how it's at all hours of the night.

I'm pretty sure we'll never be able to sleep train Ben when the time comes because the second she hears anything, she thinks it's time to get up for the day.

...also, I wish that it wasn't too early to sleep train.  Kid is a horrible sleeper.

FFwhateverthehelldayitisC: We sleep-trained DD at about 5 1/2 months.  Yes, I know that's "too early" but I could tell she was ready--making sleep associations and not getting enough sleep doing the newborn sleep wherever thing.  You know your kiddo--if you think he's ready and that training will help him to be a better sleeper, I trust you over some researcher with a clipboard working averages.

He STTN for 3 weeks straight around 3 months, 11-12 hours, and then just stopped.  He hit the 4 month "wakeful" and just never snapped out of it.  He goes down fine, but when he wakes in the MOTN, the only thing that will soothe him is a bottle, and I'm only giving him 2oz at this point, so I know he's not relying on it for nutrition.

Did you do CIO?  Full extinction, or with checks?

We did full extinction with DD2 (at 5.5 months) this week, for the first time in a year we are getting decent sleep at our house. She woke twice to eat the first night and once the second, we had been at 6-8 times a night before moving her and CIO.

BPer

tinyhumantoe said:

How's your hangover @BPer‌ A McDonald's cheeseburger is always the fix for me

It was touch and go there for awhile this morning.  Ended up at Panera with an Italian Combo and turkey chili.  Not the best start to my diet.

Pokedot

@BPer we did full exctinction with B as well when he was about 5is-5.5months old. 3 days and he had it down. It sucked the first night because it was 45 minutes of him crying but the next night was about 20 and then 3 minutes on the third night. He did really good. He was a kid who would ramp himself up and get upset if we checked on him. Full extinction worked for him.

 

Hyaline

tinyhumantoe said:

Thanks ladies, I think I'm on the worth the extra cost wagon. I just have one dumb thing making me sad. I liked the idea that W would get to be around her little sister during the day instead of separated in different age groups. Maybe their own separate time will be more beneficial though.

I think it definitely could be beneficial--she gets to do age-specific stuff and have her own friends, and then you have family time together.  

Hyaline

No nap today. Gaaaaaah.

On the bright side, I rearranged my kitchen and talked DH into making a re-do of that room priority for next year.  I then talked him into the butcher block countertops I want by proving they cost less than what he wanted.  I already have him on board on the appliances.  Muwaaahahahahah.

amandad715

@kelbel and @beebopandbuddy.....our tree came down Friday. It was on the verge of falling.  We're lucky it made it through Christmas. The rest of the decs, DH put away while I was gone on a play date yesterday. We had minimal out and it's nice to have the house back.

Ahhhh! I have a fuck load of work to do between now and next Monday and 0 motivation to do it at night. A School To Do List(report cards, 2weeks of lesson plans) , a House To Do List (potty train W, move W's clothes to J's closet, same with the dresser, move Baby's clothes into the nursery, etc) and a Baby To Do/Get List(mostly laundry, get swing out, etc) 

We are in the process of putting the boys in the same room, and also once our Xmas decorations  came down, we converted our dining room to a playroom. It looks really good, but man, we filled it up fast! Between one storage toy shelf thing, 2 Anywhere chairs, a little wooden table & chairs, an easel, and a hand-me-down train table, we are out of room. I can see why people have finished basements for toy storage. I should take a pic while it's clean! 

My cleaning lady came today, so we had to be out of the house from 9-lunchtime. I took the boys to our children's museum and then brought lunch to DH. It was fun and wore them out. It also wore me out. 

I also have some random ?s that I want to post, but don't know if I should put them in 1 post or separate them. 

amandad715

Here is our new playroom!!! I have one of those wire art hanging things from IKEA for DH to install on that far wall, and our engagement photo will go away. It's not a huge room to begin with, and we still have some toys in our family room, art things tucked away in a closet but there isn't much left in their rooms, besides books. 

BeebopandBuddy

@tinyhumantoe‌ I seriously agonized about daycare transitions and Maya's preschool transition. I had all of the thoughts- she's never been anywhere else, they've always been together, etc. Each time the kids totally rocked it and I felt silly for worrying. Kids are so resilient and learning how to transition and change is good for them. Really.

Pokedot

@amandad715 I didn't even realize you were this close to having baby #3! I can't remember did you find out what baby is? Btw, post the questions in 1 post

tinyhumantoe

Ok how often do I need to set my kid on the potty? She just peed in it for the first time and is wearing underwear! I put her on it after she scared me with a fart LOL. Every 20 min? 30 min? I want to set a timer

amandad715

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if she'll climb/jump out of the crib now that she's had freedom. I was supposed to start potty training today. EL OH EL. Didn't happen, ain't gonna happen.

We were supposed to do,the 3-day method potty train Fri-Sat-yesterday. DH and I got into a big fight about it last week and so I dropped the issue. He didn't want to do it on his days off. He thinks we should while he's home on his paternity leave with me. Baby is set to come Sat 1/10, via RCS and we'll be at the hospital thru 1/14 or 1/15. DH thinks the following weekend would be perfect. Mind you, I am having MAJOR surgery. But he doesn't want to inconvenience his parents while the boys are at their house. While I get that, they will also be going to daycare. My sitter was all set to continue whatever we do over break. I just want to do it when we both can focus 100% attention on Will. Not a newborn and my pain!

 I let the issue go and then came up with this Thur-Fri-Sat. DH will be home Thur and then again Sat, but now my great uncle's funeral is Fri and that idea is out the window. I am back to no plan now. 

I  should really give it some time though bc we are transitioning him from his room to sharing and doing the toddler bed thing. Probably too much change all at once. Will is so laid back compared to Jack and I tiptoed around big changes with him. I know now that kids are more resilient and can do ok and it's us that needs the time.

BeebopandBuddy

tinyhumantoe said:

Ok how often do I need to set my kid on the potty? She just peed in it for the first time and is wearing underwear! I put her on it after she scared me with a fart LOL. Every 20 min? 30 min? I want to set a timer

We did every 20 minutes when we started. ETA - We also gave lots of water so she could practice the association often.