spamming at midnight

coco2787

No puppy biscuits here!

sdtchica13

chiboo9 said:

@chiboo9 thanks for that...I'm never sleeping ever again...

chiboo9

What's with the bunny hate? He just wants company!

sdtchica13

chiboo9 said:

What's with the bunny hate? He just wants company!

Then why is he grabbing his junk?

PrimRoseMama

juliedave151 said:

ashie624 said:

She messaged me earlier telling me not to take the unfriending personally.

She also said she really does has 5 kids and the drowning was real.

I will miss her too. (The her I knew) And wish her the best. I hope things get better for her.

But was the pregnancy, heart problem, being in a coma, or being hit by a truck real? :-?

Yes. I've asked for proof & gotten it. Medical records & the whole she-bang. I really doubt she could fake the things she scanned & sent me. They look legit.

chiboo9

sdtchica13 said:

chiboo9 said:

What's with the bunny hate? He just wants company!

Then why is he grabbing his junk?

He's just.......shy.

valstulas

I love you all, but if any of you request my medical records, imma be like :-q >-) :-t ^#(^ 8-X /:) =; [-X b-( >:/ [-( 8-} :!! :-L and it's :bz -en nice knowing you.

sdtchica13

I'm sorry but the fact that she took the time to scan and send someone on this board medical records make my BS meter go off the fucking charts! This is the third one of these situations to happen to a board I'm on, and every single time, it came out that alleged "proof" had been faked! So really, is it so far fetched to believe that she could have fabricated medical records to make details jive with her lies? Oy fucking vey!

valstulas

maryannespier said:

I'm sorry. You can call this thread a pile on if you want, but I think asking someone send you proof including medical records is worse, especially if you know you're dealing with someone who has an extreme desire for acceptance.


@valstulas I already got a copy of your records because I wanted to know exactly who I was obsessing over. Sawwy.

While we're confessing, I watch you through your windows at night.

Girlfriends forever! Sorry, Mr. Spiers!

valstulas

valstulas

maryannespier said:

@valstulas I didn't believe you about your hangnail.

valstulas

@maryannespier‌ I think that kid's at a disney world hotel.

You always send me pics that turn me on.

valstulas

etoille said:

econmama said:

And if the records were sent unprompted, @PrimRoseMama‌, it is still incredibly distrubing that you'd accept and open them.

I forgot.  For the party tomorrow I'm going to need all of y'alls checking account numbers and SSN's in advance.  Pls send before COB today.

Can't. Too busy obsessing over my married friend like the queer I am.

valstulas

maryannespier said:

@valstulas DH said he doesn't mind so we're good.

Mr. Spiers isn't the jealous type. Besides, I won him over with a hug. I give good hugs.

valstulas

ramy3 said:

@maryannespier I think I speak for many of us when I say we your DH. Please pass along this information.

He's a good one!

valstulas

etoille said:

Also 

Just broadly.

I love that the factions are united in this.

This is like the end of the Civil War. NOVA, you can be the Confederacy.

reallylongusername

maryannespier said:

Scanning and sending medical records is ridiculous.

I once had to steal some of my dad's medical records to show one of my professors because one of my final assignments was late because of all that was going on w/my dad and that prof. wasn't going to let me pass the class (he was just going to fail me despite all my other work) otherwise. I had to steal them because I didn't want my parents to know how it was affecting me (my brother and I had to be strong for my mother).

valstulas

reallylongusername said:

maryannespier said:

Scanning and sending medical records is ridiculous.

I once had to steal some of my dad's medical records to show one of my professors because one of my final assignments was late because of all that was going on w/my dad and that prof. wasn't going to let me pass the class (he was just going to fail me despite all my other work) otherwise. I had to steal them because I didn't want my parents to know how it was affecting me (my brother and I had to be strong for my mother).

Holy shit. Hugs hugs hugs that you were in that impossible situation.

lancomechica

lizabethann06 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

juliedave151 said:

ashie624 said:

She messaged me earlier telling me not to take the unfriending personally.

She also said she really does has 5 kids and the drowning was real.

I will miss her too. (The her I knew) And wish her the best. I hope things get better for her.

But was the pregnancy, heart problem, being in a coma, or being hit by a truck real? :-?

Yes. I've asked for proof & gotten it. Medical records & the whole she-bang. I really doubt she could fake the things she scanned & sent me. They look legit.

I find this very odd.

I have some swampland I would like to sell you.

PrimRoseMama

maryannespier said:

Scanning and sending medical records is ridiculous.

I figure if folks are calling her a liar about everything publicly, and she can't defend herself that it's no more unreasonable than picking at every aspect (including her kids) of her life.

What she did was shitty & fucked up. The folks hurt by it deserve to be angry & I am hurt/pissed too. Obviously not as much as some-- but she sent the information yesterday because I told her that I don't want her lying about pregnancy, comas & shit.

She fucked up & Fucked up royally.

lancomechica

lizabethann06 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

juliedave151 said:

ashie624 said:

She messaged me earlier telling me not to take the unfriending personally.

She also said she really does has 5 kids and the drowning was real.

I will miss her too. (The her I knew) And wish her the best. I hope things get better for her.

But was the pregnancy, heart problem, being in a coma, or being hit by a truck real? :-?

Yes. I've asked for proof & gotten it. Medical records & the whole she-bang. I really doubt she could fake the things she scanned & sent me. They look legit.

I find this very odd.

WTAF?!?! Why would you do that. She is vulnerable/desperate and you ask her for her confidential medical information.
JFC.
Also like @econmama‌ said it is not easy to obtain and is likely spread across many providers and would be tons of pages.

PrimRoseMama

juliedave151 said:

lizabethann06 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

juliedave151 said:

ashie624 said:

She messaged me earlier telling me not to take the unfriending personally.

She also said she really does has 5 kids and the drowning was real.

I will miss her too. (The her I knew) And wish her the best. I hope things get better for her.

But was the pregnancy, heart problem, being in a coma, or being hit by a truck real? :-?

Yes. I've asked for proof & gotten it. Medical records & the whole she-bang. I really doubt she could fake the things she scanned & sent me. They look legit.

I find this very odd.

That is what my :-? was for. Like who are you to ask for proof? @PrimRoseMama‌

I figured it's better than google & rampant speculation. :-??

I would rather blatantly ask than waste time googling.

valstulas

lancomechica said:

lizabethann06 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

juliedave151 said:

ashie624 said:

She messaged me earlier telling me not to take the unfriending personally.

She also said she really does has 5 kids and the drowning was real.

I will miss her too. (The her I knew) And wish her the best. I hope things get better for her.

But was the pregnancy, heart problem, being in a coma, or being hit by a truck real? :-?

Yes. I've asked for proof & gotten it. Medical records & the whole she-bang. I really doubt she could fake the things she scanned & sent me. They look legit.

I find this very odd.

WTAF?!?! Why would you do that. She is vulnerable/desperate and you ask her for her confidential medical information.
JFC.
Also like @econmama‌ said it is not easy to obtain and is likely spread across many providers and would be tons of pages.

Yup. This is completely unethical. So unethical I would lose my license over it. And that is all I'll say on the matter.

PrimRoseMama

lancomechica said:

lizabethann06 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

juliedave151 said:

ashie624 said:

She messaged me earlier telling me not to take the unfriending personally.

She also said she really does has 5 kids and the drowning was real.

I will miss her too. (The her I knew) And wish her the best. I hope things get better for her.

But was the pregnancy, heart problem, being in a coma, or being hit by a truck real? :-?

Yes. I've asked for proof & gotten it. Medical records & the whole she-bang. I really doubt she could fake the things she scanned & sent me. They look legit.

I find this very odd.

WTAF?!?! Why would you do that. She is vulnerable/desperate and you ask her for her confidential medical information.
JFC.
Also like @econmama‌ said it is not easy to obtain and is likely spread across many providers and would be tons of pages.

Dude. It was email. I got angry with her that she could have lied about the coma, pregnancy & whatever else. She sent me scans of her doctor's notes. It wasn't as extreme as you are thinking.

reallylongusername

@econmama‌ - I didn't even think of that at the time. I just couldn't believe he was asking me to do that (he was actually nice before that) and the couple pieces of paper I could find had embarrassingly personal stuff on them, so I blacked that out and numbers. I basically only left enough to prove to the prof. what was going on. I got that it was p.i. at the time, but only thought how horrible it was I needed to share it. I didn't make the leap to, and legally I can't do this, otherwise I would've contacted my college's president.

PrimRoseMama

So wait-- it's ok to post about speculation about lies on a message board about a vulnerable person when you know they are reading, but it's not ok to ask directly from the person being lambasted online?

She didn't just up & send it to me out of the blue. We had a long, emotional talk over the phone & FB. I told her I think what happened is fucked up.

PrimRoseMama

If she's so vulnerable & it's so fucked up-- why keep spinning lies & speculation online? I am direct. I don't like folks thinking kids are made up & medical issues are faked.

lancomechica

There is so much crazy here.
@lizabethann06‌ I need the flailing "I just can't" gif.

lancomechica

@valstulas‌ I'm in the NOVA faction...I presume and I can't be in the confederacy for obvious reasons. So I guess I'm a defector?

chiboo9

econmama said:

PrimRoseMama said:

If she's so vulnerable & it's so fucked up-- why keep spinning lies & speculation online? I am direct. I don't like folks thinking kids are made up & medical issues are faked.

Just, stop.

PrimRoseMama

econmama said:

PrimRoseMama said:

So wait-- it's ok to post about speculation about lies on a message board about a vulnerable person when you know they are reading, but it's not ok to ask directly from the person being lambasted online?

She didn't just up & send it to me out of the blue. We had a long, emotional talk over the phone & FB. I told her I think what happened is fucked up.

No. It's not in the realm universe of being the same.

And most of us have said on numerous occassions in this thread what we knew and didn't knew without speculating. We've also urged her to get help on dozens of occassions in this thread.

You don't go to someone who needs help and ask to them to further those issues.

And you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT read someone's medical records regardless od why they are sent to you UNLESS you are their treaing medical provider.

Did I say I combed through her medical records? No. I said she sent me one page about what she'd been through. It's not this huge violation like you are making it out to be. I think there is a ton of over reacting going on here. I don't have a file box of her personal info sitting in my house. I have one email of one document. It's a doctor's write up. Not anything else.

Y'all are saying you don't like liars that lie. Me either. So I in the course of discussion she sent me one email to verify one thing.

Yes, she's in therapy & I've encouraged her to continue. If you really cared about her mental well being you'd stop gossiping about the facts of her life, her children or whatever else you are googling about her. I am astounded that I'm being vilified for simply possessing one document with limited value that proves she wasn't lying about a key aspect of something she told us.

It's been put out there that one lie = lies about everything. That she can't be trusted & she needs help. That's true but she's not going to have any help getting over anything if this shit show continues.

If you valued any part of the friendship or even the ghost of the friendship we've shared with Mer over the last 18 months then constant joking about someone in a public way is not the way to help them.

chiboo9

lizabethann06 said:

Brb, making copies of my medical records for the Chibumpies party tomorrow.

Dani428

This picture serves two purposes. 1 - it shows my feelings on scanning medical records to an internet friend. 2 - proof that I am sitting in my doctors office right now waiting to get fluids --- PROOF dammit. 3 - I clearly lost my lipstick. 4 - oh wait I said 2 originally right

PrimRoseMama

COmama1314 said:

@PrimRoseMama‌ so cool, you had an outside conversation with her. It's not your job to gossip about other people's business. It's not your information to tell! She was banned from the site for a reason. And that means no lines of communication through lines of communication because you are still a part of this community. Speculation only hurts that person, and quite frankly hurts less than dishing "proof".

She gave me permission to state I'd had the conversation & have seen proof that the facts (car accident, coma etc) are real. I'm not just spewing personal shit without getting the green light.

Also, notice I'm not pasting personal shit everywhere. The question was asked, "was X, Y & Z real?". I answered, "yes, based on the one document that's been shown to me I feel those things are real." It's being blown all to hell that I'm committing some grave violation to simply answer one question based on the information I have.

It's no different that anyone else saying, "yeah to my knowledge X, Y & Z are correct." The only difference is I went to the source to put it to bed vs. google or piecing together message board posts to speculate.

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Ha.

Gee wiz.

Sheesh.

Shucks.

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I am beyond weirded out. And here I thought I was the one dropping bombs today.

PrimRoseMama

If I had come by this information via google, & shared it via PM then I promise it would get eaten with a spoon. However, since I don't like lying liars-- I'm being upfront about how I obtained the information.

So now apparently it's some crazy AW type shit that I'm picking on a mentally ill person who would do anything to prove things. One email & one document (with permission with no identifying information shared here whatsoever by the way) is being warped into her entire medical records (pages & pages). This is not the case & I'm LOL over here that suddenly it's this huge violation I've committed.

But it's ok for others to say, "based on my information gathered via conversation & chats" to speculate on her kids, her medical history & what not? Which is more damaging to Mer in the long run? She's been feeling like she can't defend herself & hurt that people she considered friends are gleefully picking her life apart.

Did she fuck up royally? Yes. Does that mean she deserves to be raked across the coals for days by former friends about sensitive details (kids, coma, car accident & her kid's near death experience) of her life? I really don't think so.

I wouldn't apply for a credit card in a friend's name. That's fucked & a major violation of trust. No excuses for that.

What makes me uncomfortable is that someone I considered a friend (and am still trying to reconcile as one to a minor degree) is having a group of former friends talk in mean ways publicly.

Did she fuck up? Oh yeah. She is still human though. Humans make mistakes. People have a right to their hurt & anger. I'm angry for you & still disappointed in her over this. That doesn't mean that I want to call into question every detail of her life & hash it out over a message board.

I'm all for drama over baby names & even the cat fishing thread was amusing until you realize it hurt someone. I admit to loving drama & reading it-- but this one hits close to home for me. Not only because it's a friend that did fucked up shit, but that "are you sure she's really pregnant? Are her kids real?" Type shit that got me. Add to the questioning of medical history that seems to really have impacted her-- It makes me uncomfortable.

merc5411

So several people have said they have seen proof that she really did this. Would someone please PM me and let me know? Because I've talked to her and she gave me a very realistic and plausible explanation. So if there is information out there that proves she's lying, then I'd really like to know. I'm giving her the benefit of a doubt. Maybe I'm too trusting and maybe I'm naive, but I'm not gonna believe it without proof. So, please, someone PM me.

valstulas

PrimRoseMama said:

econmama said:

PrimRoseMama said:

So wait-- it's ok to post about speculation about lies on a message board about a vulnerable person when you know they are reading, but it's not ok to ask directly from the person being lambasted online?

She didn't just up & send it to me out of the blue. We had a long, emotional talk over the phone & FB. I told her I think what happened is fucked up.

No. It's not in the realm universe of being the same.

And most of us have said on numerous occassions in this thread what we knew and didn't knew without speculating. We've also urged her to get help on dozens of occassions in this thread.

You don't go to someone who needs help and ask to them to further those issues.

And you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT read someone's medical records regardless od why they are sent to you UNLESS you are their treaing medical provider.

Did I say I combed through her medical records? No. I said she sent me one page about what she'd been through. It's not this huge violation like you are making it out to be. I think there is a ton of over reacting going on here. I don't have a file box of her personal info sitting in my house. I have one email of one document. It's a doctor's write up. Not anything else.

Y'all are saying you don't like liars that lie. Me either. So I in the course of discussion she sent me one email to verify one thing.

Yes, she's in therapy & I've encouraged her to continue. If you really cared about her mental well being you'd stop gossiping about the facts of her life, her children or whatever else you are googling about her. I am astounded that I'm being vilified for simply possessing one document with limited value that proves she wasn't lying about a key aspect of something she told us.

It's been put out there that one lie = lies about everything. That she can't be trusted & she needs help. That's true but she's not going to have any help getting over anything if this shit show continues.

If you valued any part of the friendship or even the ghost of the friendship we've shared with Mer over the last 18 months then constant joking about someone in a public way is not the way to help them.

And if SHE valued her friendship with ME, she could be honest with me. And not unfriend me or delete my number every time I don't agree with her on something. Or not tell people that I'm obsessed with MAS.