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  • I did sign a release but i didn't think she would post pics like that

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  • Wow this woman keeps getting worse and worse. Shaming 4 year olds who can't print their names? Judging 4 year olds on strict criteria for halloween?? I don't believe in all of the codling that seems to be going on lately, and all of that "every kid wins all of the time" stuff but this is going too far the other way IMO.


  • It's not for halloween, it's for school. Ours does the same. Only PreK is even allowed to dress up. The older kids have a theme for every day of this week if they chose to participate. They don't have to participate at all.
    Wtf? Get outta my post
    So you really didn't want to know if you were wrong, you just wanted others to say you were right. Sorry, next time put that in your OP so we know
  • I talked to the assistant director and she printed the Wikipedia page for me. She also said her grandson (in the same class) is going to be a ninja turtle and is bringing a book! I told her Colton would be bringing a book too. She thinks it's ridiculous about the contest. This morning Colton told me his teacher said if they dress as super heroes she will make them change into regular clothes. X(
    That's just ridiculous. It's Pre-K people. The teacher is being dumb. Seriously. Don't send regular clothes and take away any he already has there so he can't change. If the director says its fine and the teacher makes them change I'd be pissed.
    Or they are trying to teach them to broaden their horizon and learn about new things, not just what they may see on TV. If the school is that horrible of a place, send them somewhere else. Pre-K is not a required grade anyway. Maybe keep them at home and they can play superhero everyday.
  • I talked to the assistant director and she printed the Wikipedia page for me. She also said her grandson (in the same class) is going to be a ninja turtle and is bringing a book! I told her Colton would be bringing a book too. She thinks it's ridiculous about the contest. This morning Colton told me his teacher said if they dress as super heroes she will make them change into regular clothes. X(
    That's just ridiculous. It's Pre-K people. The teacher is being dumb. Seriously. Don't send regular clothes and take away any he already has there so he can't change. If the director says its fine and the teacher makes them change I'd be pissed.
    Or they are trying to teach them to broaden their horizon and learn about new things, not just what they may see on TV. If the school is that horrible of a place, send them somewhere else. Pre-K is not a required grade anyway. Maybe keep them at home and they can play superhero everyday.
    I think the big issue here is lack of advance notice .... the intentions are good but the execution is poor on the teacher's part.

    Also, there are so many classic stories and books that have been made into TV shows, movies or special features and a lot of people even forget that they originated with books. And many of those books and stories, in their original form, might not even be appropriate for the pre-K crowd. So, where do you draw the line? And this also assumes that the books that your child is connecting with at the moment has a "character" that could be translated into a Halloween costume.
  • The making them change and disqualifying them thing (if anything, don't let them win, but still let them participate) isn't fair at all. Even if a parent was all "screw you, I do what I want" or just didn't give two shits about their kids school, you can't penalize the kid. They're freaking preschoolers for Pete's sake.
    They receive points for quality of book, creativity, staying in character all day, etc. It blows my mind.
    How in the world does she judge QUALITY of the book - and how would a preschooler know which one to choose based on this. Ugh. For little 4 year olds who are just learning the concepts and sometimes SO stuck on winning and losing and comparing themselves to others - this is getting me all worked up!
    Maybe my kids were just too advanced. My son who just turned 5 and would be in Pre-K 4 if he was in school understands quality of a book. He has a ton of the easy reader super hero books that, but knows that some of our other "classic" books are a better quality, the stories flow better, larger usable vocabulary, and not just a "main point" story. When it's his resting time, he can read the easy reader books. When we read at other times of the day, he knows he needs to be reading the harder books.

     If he was told he would have a better chance of winning if he stayed in character, he would. The creativity I assume would come from having a homemade costume instead of something off the halloween rack.
  • I thought a bunch of movies are made into books too. Andthat's one intense judging rubric. Especially for prek.... Which i'mguessing you'd be happy if they can just count...
    I was a little peeved last month when she posted pics on their fb page of wHich kids could write their names and basically put a guilt trip on the parents whose kids aren't quite there yet.
    This is so not appropriate. I want to beat the crap out of this lady.  The costume contest is ridiculous. Those poor babies!! I am sure you can't be the only parent who complained about this.


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  • Just don't send him on that day. Let him dress up that morning as what ever he wants to be for Halloween and parade him around town. Has the other parents who agree with you join and make it into a protest of the "crazy" teacher who is trying to get your children to learn something new in whatever creative way possible. 

    I'd like to see how she posted about the kids knowing how to write their name because to me it seems like a praise of those who have accomplished it so far as opposed to shaming those that couldn't. So when ever any child does good, they can't be recognized because someone might take is as shaming their own for not doing as well. If she named the kids that couldn't write their name yet or whatever the activity is, that would be different. 

    Teachers are put into a difficult profession where the
  • The making them change and disqualifying them thing (if anything, don't let them win, but still let them participate) isn't fair at all. Even if a parent was all "screw you, I do what I want" or just didn't give two shits about their kids school, you can't penalize the kid. They're freaking preschoolers for Pete's sake.
    They receive points for quality of book, creativity, staying in character all day, etc. It blows my mind.
    How in the world does she judge QUALITY of the book - and how would a preschooler know which one to choose based on this. Ugh. For little 4 year olds who are just learning the concepts and sometimes SO stuck on winning and losing and comparing themselves to others - this is getting me all worked up!
    Maybe my kids were just too advanced. My son who just turned 5 and would be in Pre-K 4 if he was in school understands quality of a book. He has a ton of the easy reader super hero books that, but knows that some of our other "classic" books are a better quality, the stories flow better, larger usable vocabulary, and not just a "main point" story. When it's his resting time, he can read the easy reader books. When we read at other times of the day, he knows he needs to be reading the harder books.

     If he was told he would have a better chance of winning if he stayed in character, he would. The creativity I assume would come from having a homemade costume instead of something off the halloween rack.
    Hey thanks for judging me. I'm a single mom and don't have time to come up with something so spectacular just so my 4 YEAR OLD can Win a fucking contest. Stop acting like a self righteous bitch.
    Then why are you worried about it?!?! If it's that stressful, don't have him dress up. I'm sure he won't be the only one to not dress up. Or list some of the books you have that your son likes and ask us if we have any ideas for quick costumes that would give him a chance of winning. It has nothing to do with being a single parent or not.

    For example, The Very Hungry Caterpillar, you could make him look like a caterpillar in all green and tape/staple/glue picture cut outs or plastic toy fruit from the story on his belly like he ate them. Or even dress him like the butterfly, by dressing in all black with a shirt or scrap fabric for wings attached to the underside of his arms and he can paint, color or use paper/fabric colors to make the colored part of the wings. 
  • Mandmeesh said:
    The making them change and disqualifying them thing (if anything, don't let them win, but still let them participate) isn't fair at all. Even if a parent was all "screw you, I do what I want" or just didn't give two shits about their kids school, you can't penalize the kid. They're freaking preschoolers for Pete's sake.
    They receive points for quality of book, creativity, staying in character all day, etc. It blows my mind.
    How in the world does she judge QUALITY of the book - and how would a preschooler know which one to choose based on this. Ugh. For little 4 year olds who are just learning the concepts and sometimes SO stuck on winning and losing and comparing themselves to others - this is getting me all worked up!
    Maybe my kids were just too advanced. My son who just turned 5 and would be in Pre-K 4 if he was in school understands quality of a book. He has a ton of the easy reader super hero books that, but knows that some of our other "classic" books are a better quality, the stories flow better, larger usable vocabulary, and not just a "main point" story. When it's his resting time, he can read the easy reader books. When we read at other times of the day, he knows he needs to be reading the harder books.

     If he was told he would have a better chance of winning if he stayed in character, he would. The creativity I assume would come from having a homemade costume instead of something off the halloween rack.
    Maybe you missed the topic: 4 year olds and dressing up for Halloween. Your child's "advanced knowledge" is irrelevant. Halloween is a holiday for dressing up and collecting candy- not performing a soliloquy in front of the class while dressed as your favorite character from a novel.
    Yes, but school is not a holiday. If the child is going to school on that day, they can wait until they get home to dress up to go trick or treating or other Halloween event. My girl in 1st grade is not allowed to wear a costume at all to school even if it fits dress code. If they do, they will be asked to change or sent home and not return until they do. Should I be complaining about that? She got to dress up last year and wants to again, but we are following the rules.
  • =D> i hope you feel better now that you've basically said your child is smarter than mine. :-q not cool
    Maybe he is or isn't does it really matter?
  • The making them change and disqualifying them thing (if anything, don't let them win, but still let them participate) isn't fair at all. Even if a parent was all "screw you, I do what I want" or just didn't give two shits about their kids school, you can't penalize the kid. They're freaking preschoolers for Pete's sake.
    They receive points for quality of book, creativity, staying in character all day, etc. It blows my mind.
    How in the world does she judge QUALITY of the book - and how would a preschooler know which one to choose based on this. Ugh. For little 4 year olds who are just learning the concepts and sometimes SO stuck on winning and losing and comparing themselves to others - this is getting me all worked up!
    Maybe my kids were just too advanced. My son who just turned 5 and would be in Pre-K 4 if he was in school understands quality of a book. He has a ton of the easy reader super hero books that, but knows that some of our other "classic" books are a better quality, the stories flow better, larger usable vocabulary, and not just a "main point" story. When it's his resting time, he can read the easy reader books. When we read at other times of the day, he knows he needs to be reading the harder books.

     If he was told he would have a better chance of winning if he stayed in character, he would. The creativity I assume would come from having a homemade costume instead of something off the halloween rack.



    It's not about what's easy or what's advanced. There are some amazing books that are appropriate for beginning readers. You woudn't say they are poor quality based on reading level. Quality may or may not have something to do with they way words are used (dare I say poetry) or the way art is incorporated. It may or may not have something to do with whether or not the book has a plot or advanced concepts. Quality is subjective. And this teacher has not provided her criteria -- even if she has, it's been on very short notice.

    And hypothetically speaking, say I've spent the last month making a Neil Armstrong costume for my child, and the week before Halloween I got a note like CQ got. I'd be pissed too. Is my child going to be disqualified for showing up dressed as an historical figure rather than a character in a book?
    The teacher isn't controlling what you dress your child as outside of school. This is only for the few hours while at Pre-K. Why is it such a big deal. I really don't understand. She's not telling you how to celebrate Halloween or what Halloween costume the child can wear. It's for a school activity. If the child does dress up for the school event, they can change as soon as they leave.
  • But she wasn't wrong. And I'm sure you think that's it's way cool that your 5 year old can read and all, but it's really nothing more than bragging rights for you. He's going to be burnt out before he even starts school. If my preschool aged child was reading, you better bet I would let them read whatever they wanted to. He doesn't understand flow. He just knows mommy makes him read the harder books. FYI if you look at countries where kids are required to start school at an earlier age and countries where they start later, the ones where they start later have better results.
    Sorry my child wanted to read. I had no intention of teaching him this early. I didn't teach my oldest to read that early. My point was not whether he reads or I read. We do books with a flow to them because it helps them with their everyday vocabulary and speaking. 

    I would like to know which countries you are referring to. Also, as a whole America's public education scores suck. Test scores have so many flaws in them. Also, in America, we are not required at least in our state, to start school until age 7, so I'm not sure what your point is since this is a pre-K class we are talking about. Unless you are trying to say it as because she put her child in school early her child is destined to have worse results. 

  • Four days notice, people. we are losing perspective. Four. days. notice.
    Seriously.  @AggieMom0809 you are glossing over this fact.  You would be pissed too if your kid got all excited about a costume then find out that it isn't an appropriate costume.  And just send him without a costume when everyone else is dressed up?  Give me a break.  That would go so swimmingly 8-|
    What's worse is that she wants to change them out of their costumes if they don't fit her theme.

    Have you every tried to change a toddler when they want to wear something?  mine would be a big crying, screaming mess.
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  • The making them change and disqualifying them thing (if anything, don't let them win, but still let them participate) isn't fair at all. Even if a parent was all "screw you, I do what I want" or just didn't give two shits about their kids school, you can't penalize the kid. They're freaking preschoolers for Pete's sake.

    They receive points for quality of book, creativity, staying in character all day, etc. It blows my mind.

    How in the world does she judge QUALITY of the book - and how would a preschooler know which one to choose based on this. Ugh. For little 4 year olds who are just learning the concepts and sometimes SO stuck on winning and losing and comparing themselves to others - this is getting me all worked up!

    Maybe my kids were just too advanced. My son who just turned 5 and would be in Pre-K 4 if he was in school understands quality of a book. He has a ton of the easy reader super hero books that, but knows that some of our other "classic" books are a better quality, the stories flow better, larger usable vocabulary, and not just a "main point" story. When it's his resting time, he can read the easy reader books. When we read at other times of the day, he knows he needs to be reading the harder books.

     If he was told he would have a better chance of winning if he stayed in character, he would. The creativity I assume would come from having a homemade costume instead of something off the halloween rack.





    It's not about what's easy or what's advanced. There are some amazing books that are appropriate for beginning readers. You woudn't say they are poor quality based on reading level. Quality may or may not have something to do with they way words are used (dare I say poetry) or the way art is incorporated. It may or may not have something to do with whether or not the book has a plot or advanced concepts. Quality is subjective. And this teacher has not provided her criteria -- even if she has, it's been on very short notice.

    And hypothetically speaking, say I've spent the last month making a Neil Armstrong costume for my child, and the week before Halloween I got a note like CQ got. I'd be pissed too. Is my child going to be disqualified for showing up dressed as an historical figure rather than a character in a book?



    The teacher isn't controlling what you dress your child as outside of school. This is only for the few hours while at Pre-K. Why is it such a big deal. I really don't understand. She's not telling you how to celebrate Halloween or what Halloween costume the child can wear. It's for a school activity. If the child does dress up for the school event, they can change as soon as they leave.

    Um try 8 hours at prek and everyone else is dressing up. My decision has been made. I'm not fighting a mommy war with you. I've been teaching 8 years and i hate dealing with moms like you. Ugh

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  • sarenu1 said:

    Four days notice, people. we are losing perspective. Four. days. notice.
    Seriously.  @AggieMom0809 you are glossing over this fact.  You would be pissed too if your kid got all excited about a costume then find out that it isn't an appropriate costume.  And just send him without a costume when everyone else is dressed up?  Give me a break.  That would go so swimmingly 8-|
    What's worse is that she wants to change them out of their costumes if they don't fit her theme.

    Have you every tried to change a toddler when they want to wear something?  mine would be a big crying, screaming mess.
    I never said that they need to change out of their costume. If you are referring to the teacher, it would be the parents fault for not following the rules. If they came in a super hero costume any other day would they not also be sent to change? 

     My child doesn't just get to wear something if I've said they can't. They have to learn that they can't just do what they want. 
  • I've tried to end it but this bitch won't stop 8-}

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  • @all

    I understand that it was only 4 days and no I don't see that as a big deal. There have been many instances of less than that notice. If I can manage to help my child do what ever it is that needs to be done, we do it, if not we don't participate. 

    I'm sure there will be more than one child with out a costume whether they forget or couldn't come up with something. My daughters dance class gets to wear a costume to class as a Halloween celebration. There were rules set that they still had to be able to dance in it. My daughters Halloween costume is way to long for her to dance in. So her options were to go without a costume or wear something else. She chose something else. There were also a few girls who's moms forgot and the kids wore their regular leo and tights. No tears were shed no complaints filed. (The preK class had the same rules that had to be followed and one of the girls was told she needed to remove the floor length tutu or not dance. Guess what, they took the tutu off and the child participated without a fuss too)
  • Seriously - I bet your kids can't even choose what to wear on halloween then? You dictate that? Do they get to eat their candy?

    Or only if its "quality"
    They do get to choose what they want with in reason. I did veto my daughter's first choice. I'm not letting her dress as a slutty werewolf, sorry. They do get to eat some of the candy, but no jaw breakers, extreme sour (like war heads), homemade, or unwrapped. When they are older, the rules will change. Most of our candy gets donated to the soldier moms/wives group in town who ships it off.
  • I guess I'm letting my kids develop their individuality too much by letting them decide what to wear.

    And I work for a living, that means form 8 am until 5pm I'm in the office. from 5-6 I'm driving in traffic, picking up my kids and then getting home.  From 6-7 I'm making sure they both get a good meal, interact with them.  7-8 I'm putting them to bed.  from 8-9:30 I'm cleaning up the house and getting ready for the next day.

    Monday, Tuesday my husband is on conference calls to other parts of the word.  Wednesday he is in class for an MBA.

    So tell me, when I'm going to fit in hand making a costume?  Because I had to plan a month ahead of time to make my son's tabard and belt.
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  • Send them in as a Twilight character, problem solved. ;;)
    This would be humorous, but I think I would still die a little inside.
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  • TJ1979 said:
    @sarenu1 Obviously you need to cut down on that cleaning house and sleeping nonsense.  And really, if you are trying to work and be a parent, you obviously cannot put your kid in a good costume, because only good costumes are handmade.
    Crap, you're right.  I'll just sit in the corner and drink my wine.
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  • Lol! Why can't they have sour candy?
    They've tried it and didn't like it, but never remember which package they come in. 
  • TJ1979 said:
    @sarenu1 Obviously you need to cut down on that cleaning house and sleeping nonsense.  And really, if you are trying to work and be a parent, you obviously cannot put your kid in a good costume, because only good costumes are handmade.
    Um, ok. 
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