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March 2015 Moms
Yes or no
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Re: Yes or no
It is so cute when people want to stay where they are not wanted just because. What does that say about an individual?
Anyhow, no one is starting drama, just wanting the original drama to be recognized for what it is. If you look at how J15 responded to this situation it is embarrassingly immature, but sure, we will keep and pet their troll because she wants to participate in THREE BMBs. Again, you can post wherever you want...but when your first post is all obvious troll is obvious and you stick around even though everyone wants you gone...why not go back to the board where you won the popularity contest and even your mods love your incorrect spelling and grammar self?
I'm not sure how this looks like starting drama. I don't see the TOU being honored, and that is a huge concern to me. This isn't a dictatorship, we have a right to know what our mods are doing, and to question if things are handled properly. Seeing someone troll with NO abuse points? Concerning.
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Then the block function is your friend.
@MandJS, if you can assure me that you are willing to ban another mod's pet, and will not shelter her, I am content, and have no beef. The actual troll involved is of no consequence, and beside the point. I'd be just as upset if a person who is selling Viagra got away with it simply because they happened to have mild posting habits between ads, and another board thought the ads were cute.
The main thing I want to address on behalf of J15 is regarding the Trollin' Tuesday incident. It absolutely was addressed with J15 posters. @MandJS brought the situation to my attention as well as @ICarriedAWatermelon 's. We decided to post some general warnings to all posters involved first to clarify to posters on J15 that what they were posting could definitely be considered trolling, and that they needed to cut it out or official individual warnings (among other things if it got out of hand) could follow. (I don't know why the formatting of the text in this paragraph just got weird. Anyway...)
At that point, as far as I have seen, the trolling ceased on J15's part. I don't get to read every single post that gets posted, but as far as I can tell (and the other mods all seem to be in agreement on this point), the "trolling" ended there.
I just have to say I find this ridiculous. (Sorry @MandJS). The comments on this thread aren't about her behavior on this thread (as PPs have mentioned). No one was badgering her - A member asked the question "who is she???". And we answered. That answer is, someone who posted on another board that they would come over here to specifically poke this board by posting stuff that they know will get a rise out of this group. By definition, a troll. She heard we don't like people announcing their baby's sex outside of the sex poll so she made that her intro. She's made other snide comments about gender. Even in this thread, suggesting the name Blake as a masculine name really is more of a "let's see if this starts something" post than a helpful one - that name is now unisex if not more feminine.
Her whole presence here is based on, ooh I hear there's a lot of drama here, let me go be a part of it. Unlike women who are on multiple boards because they were at one point in time due to have a baby in that particular month, or likely to give birth in that month, none of those apply to why she would be in this board. She is only here with the "genuine" intent of pissing people off.
If she wants to continue to do that here, whatevs. But to tell us that when someone asks, "who the hell is this?" saying she's a troll violates TOU is totally nuts.
It is very heartening to hear that things are being handled so this whole mess can stop. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.
I mean, if it takes warnings of everyone involved to get some accountability up in here, have at it. Do it. I'd rather everyone get treated equally than have this dumbass pet protection program going on by the mods.
Nothin but love, lady. You go ahead and AW in every thread for as long as you'd like and I will love tit that shit foreva.
Please know that consistently reporting things that are NOT a TOU violation is a TOU violation though, so please only report actual trolling or other violations.
Eta words
And gasp, a M15er admits to kinda maybe liking me! I like you too!
Peace offering: Free butt massages for all.
ETA: too slow on the posting. I am pretty close to just massing all these threads in a PM and letting BumpJackie know that mods are not quashing TOU violations for someone who is trolling. If GM has to get banned, then this shit shouldn't fly either.
I'm not saying to censor people, there are always going to be heated discussions, but when there is a clear intent to be disruptive and inflammatory to a community (whether it be a BMB or specialty board) that behavior should not be tolerated.
I couldn't care less what this person does from here on out, I'm just disappointed with how all this went down. I know you mods can't be everywhere at once and I'm trusting it's being handled but it would be nice to get some confirmation from BumpJackie or whoever up high that this type of behavior isn't acceptable.
You guys are cutting your own feet out from under yourselves. If I ask one mod if the other mod has handled something, the answer shouldn't be "I dunno what happened on FB".
I'm tired of talking about her.
Is anyone starting a poll for new mods?
Sorry bout that just did
The difference? Stargirl "belonged" somewhere. Stop only applying the rules to people you like or are "frenemies" with or if you would be pissing off another mod with your TOU-abiding actions.
Also +1 me to not being a fan off the off-board mod conversations because the mod board exists for a reason. I don't get why only our mods have difficult with accessing it. With all the shady shit happening on all boards accountability isn't just a request, it's a necessity.
As far as the safety to communicate goes for M15 (I forgot who mentioned it), I do feel more guarded right now. I feel like it doesn't matter whether we were nice in Star's intro, or trying to keep the order of the board to maintain some kind of system (ex: there is a thread for posting about the sex of your baby), the whole intent was to play us all for fools because of the troll Tuesday thread on J15. But then for J15 to start multiple threads about us after the fact, especially about our so-called lack of acceptance for non-March mommas, was extremely offensive. In my personal opinion, much more offensive than any insult a drive-by newbie might toss out, because this is a large group of established members; not just someone who is butt-hurt over some snark and gifs. Maybe not TOU violations, but just my two cents for whatever happens moving forward. Take or leave.
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From what I understand (which is limited), she trolled in that thread but has regularly contributed since then, but is hounded because of the original trolling? No? Like I said, I am not up to speed on ALL the things.
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Um no. The "hounding" is what is supposedly in this thread, so if you haven't already read it from page 1. If that's hounding I'm a 50 year old man. She posted in this thread, someone who missed all the drama said who is she, we said a troll from J15, don't feed the troll. Someone else asked why are you here (a valid question). This thread happened 2 days after the initial trolling as you'd like to call it. So to say "she contributed regularly since then" is not applicable at the point in this thread when we were accused of "badgering" by mandjs (who missed all the original brouhaha). Since then she has been pretty much ignored. So then she went back to J15 and said we were mean to her and that started the whole board fight incident.
The fact that anyone would admonish us for reacting to someone who a) has no chance in hell of having a baby in this month and b) openly said they were coming to troll us is utterly ridiculous. So what if she had decided to mind her Ps and Qs a few days after the fact (which if you ask me is a CYA move). That was after all this happened not before.
And I have to disagree with you on saying a BMB is different from a specialty board. The FF board is for people who FF. If you don't, you don't really have any reason to be there. Same with BF. The BMBs are no different. They are for women who are, were (loss mamas), or may be (on the cusp) having a baby in that month. If someone went to any other BMB that they had no remote possibility of being in with the same shitshow there would be the same response.
Like we've continued to say, this isn't about her, it's about how this was handled.
She works though and I have not gotten a response from her so I did what I thought was best in that situation and banned the OP and follows up with mandjs to tell her I banned the OP and she can unban if she disagreed.
The difference between that situation and stargirl that I took into consideration with both, was that while yes, stargirl was trolling, she was also an active member of TB community. For someone who violates TOU once but has an otherwise clean slate and is active on TB that's where I will allow for warnings and not immediately ban whereas someone who has no history here and then says "haha, I was just posting this to get a rise out of you guys and so the girls on my other board can all laugh at you, bye!" isn't contributing and has no desire to be here.
Also, stargirl is doesn't belong here, and while I'm not afraid to ban her for her shenannigans on our board just because she doesn't go here, doesn't mean her ONE instance of trolling was ban worthy. I've already said that I think she was trolling with her intro here but that I have not seen more trolling from her since then. If she starts her trolling again I wouldn't have a problem with banning.
I completely agree with you, Maui. TOU need to be updated with the warning system and for this exact reason. I just admitted that I followed TOU to a T with one poster and bent the rules, as they are currently written and displayed, with another.
I feel ya, Maui. I feel ya.
@mandjs and I must be missing something here with that poster. She trolled one time, yes? Yet others keep making it a big issue now, she just rides along with it. If she's bothering this board SO MUCH, please, please, please put that ignore function to good use. We can't ban a poster for being annoying or for posting where she doesn't technically belong. I have posters on my BMB who have late Nov or early Jan dates. Whatever. If someone gets their kicks from posting on a board 4 weeks after their supposed due date, fine, annoying and ridiculous to me. I don't get the luxury of blocking posters but if I could, this would probably be one I would block if she really bothered me that much.
If this poster can mind her Ps & Qs, she's good to go in my book. If she's truly interested in sticking around she'll be able to keep it clean. If she goofs and violates a TOU, the mods involved will start the tracking/warning procedure. When she hits her limit, she'll be banned-and this is where it gets sticky because now that she's a known whateveryouwanttocallher, the mods are going to be accused of being power-trippy and unfair.
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I don't know how many times we can really say this : Stargirlb is WAY besides the point. She's a medium through which an event happened. What we are concerned about isn't her (her posts are stupid as hell and not even worth reading, which is why I don't).
You say that warnings are given when posters break rules. Where? THAT is what we are concerned about. Where was the warning here? Where was everyone's warning who was involved? How is the system supposed to work if you DON'T WARN?
For the umpteenth time, I (and most of us) dont give a rat's ass what she does. I don't need to ignore because I see all her posts and I don't care. We all got involved when this first happened and that's pretty much been it besides the board fight. We just feel that we have been treated like the trolls in all this and and she has been treated like the victim that's just bullshit.
Edited for a little grammar - mobile bumping isn't easy!