Rant: Trying not to be a B

nikyasmith2011

@AnnaTTCat32 no i perfectly understand what fallacy means. Just because you throw out the word fallacy doesn't make it a fallacy.

@aditigirl no but it seems that ONLY CAPITALIZATION can be comprehended by MORONS. Apparently I was WRONG there too. 

 

 

lmfao...wow

paigeed

@GhostMonkey‌ who are you to judge @nikyasmith2011‌ or anyone else who has an opinion different then yours. Come on. At this point you are no better than we supposedly are for our beliefs.

Just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean we don't have morals, ethics, and integrity.

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nikyasmith2011

@GhostMonkey when did I say anyone was a piece of crap? Yet again with the word twisting.

@aditigirl what do I care if I get banned? oooohhhh I don't have to deal with people like you!?!?!? So what!?!? Who cares!?!?!? Plus I wouldn't really call it name calling when it's clearly a FACT.

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paigeed

@GhostMonkey‌ you are acting better than us as well, while calling us a piece of shit because we don't let the government take care of us during hard times. Now who is the unethical, immoral one based on your definitions.

You are no better than what you are claiming we are.

Our opinions clearly differ and that doesn't mean either of us are horrible people.

pippacricket

paigeed said:

@nikyasmith2011‌ We may not be able to change their opinions or our country, but we can raise our children to be responsible for all their decisions without taking advantage of our government.

Wtf?? So the posters who are disagreeing with you don't want to raise their children to be responsible and not take advantage of the government? Have you completely missed everything that PPs have been saying?? Are we reading the same thread? No one said they thought it was ok to take advantage of the government so why did you feel the need to say this?

paigeed

@pippacricket I never said that all PP's were going to raise their children to take advantage of the government or irresponsible.

 I stated that I may not be able to change anyone's opinion on this board but all we (as in everyone) can do is raise their children to be responsible people who do not abuse the system.

paigeed

@ghostmonkey I also never called all people on assistance a "piece of shit." You can look at my post history to confirm that if you really deem necessary. I gave several instances in which I know people who abuse the system. I never said everyone abused it, I said some. Those people who do take advantage of it are the ones that I do think deserve to be kicked off.

It seems to be a trend on this thread that when someone agrees with the OP that their words get twisted to make them sound like they hate all people who are on welfare or want their kids to go hungry which is simply not the case.

paigeed

Rumbera28 said:

paigeed said:

@pippacricket I never said that all PP's were going to raise their children to take advantage of the government or irresponsible.

 I stated that I may not be able to change anyone's opinion on this board but all we (as in everyone) can do is raise their children to be responsible people who do not abuse the system.

I really wish that you would be more interested in raising your children to be responsible people who stop the system from abusing people.

I am confused as to what you mean about the system abusing people? This post was about individuals on government aid who take advantage of it in many different ways (ex. not looking for work, not using their food stamps correctly or even on their kids, not trying to improve their situation).

paigeed

Rumbera28 said:

paigeed said:

Rumbera28 said:

paigeed said:

@pippacricket I never said that all PP's were going to raise their children to take advantage of the government or irresponsible.

 I stated that I may not be able to change anyone's opinion on this board but all we (as in everyone) can do is raise their children to be responsible people who do not abuse the system.

I really wish that you would be more interested in raising your children to be responsible people who stop the system from abusing people.

I am confused as to what you mean about the system abusing people? This post was about individuals on government aid who take advantage of it in many different ways (ex. not looking for work, not using their food stamps correctly or even on their kids, not trying to improve their situation).

I guess my post that addresses your question was tl;dr for you.   Sorry about that.

What the heck does that mean?

Honestly, I'm trying to have a decent debate. I'm not trying to bring anyone down here to call names. I am trying to see where you are coming from, but if you are going to start being sarcastic or something so that we can't get anywhere then this conversation isn't going to be productive at all.

paigeed

I wasn't trying to be snarky either. I honestly didn't and still don't understand how or why you thought the government is abusing people? I think our government as it stands today supports as many people as it can... Too many people probably.

So I am truly looking for some clarification as to how the government isn't taking care of it's people.

pippacricket

paigeed said:

It seems to be a trend on this thread that when someone agrees with the OP that their words get twisted to make them sound like they hate all people who are on welfare or want their kids to go hungry which is simply not the case.

No you're just not being very clear. In the post I initially quoted you on (I'm mobile so I can't go back to get it verbatim) you said to Nikki "WE can't change their opinions...all WE can do is raise our children...blah blah" the way you wrote it, made it sound like you were talking about just you two (and others that agree with you). Then you back-peddled when I asked about what you said.

tl;dr Be more clear in your posts then there wouldn't be so much confusion.

paigeed

Note taken about being more clear.

paigeed

@GhostMonkey Why do you find it necessary to always make yourself look bigger? I'm trying to be nice. Trying to see where you are coming from and you just want to make me look stupid or something. What the hell?

I do think that in ways we are being taken advantage of (ex. taxes, socialistic policy, etc.) but I have no clue how you are relating it to this thread.

The OP was talking about people who use the system. So how does that directly relate to government assistance abusing people? Wouldn't it do the opposite and prove that the government is taking care of people... maybe too many people in my personal opinion.. but nonetheless taking care of them.

paigeed

@sassypantzz I agree with you about the reliability of studies. Although they are done by wonderful, upstanding people and organizations how do we know they are reliable. If I was someone taking advantage of the system, and I didn't want to loose my aid, I sure as heck would think about lieing on a survey that asked if I was using it correctly.

Empireceo

Shitballs McGoo, this is still happening?  There are people here who have no ability to understand or learn anything beyond "work hard and you can achieve your dreams."  Trying to slap them in the face with the big dick of reality is futile.

 

Also, @Rumbera28 just wrote the most eloquent thing I've ever read on TB.

 

 

Meery82

Empireceo said:

Shitballs McGoo, this is still happening?  There are people here who have no ability to understand or learn anything beyond "work hard and you can achieve your dreams."  Trying to slap them in the face with the big dick of reality is futile.

 

Also, @Rumbera28 just wrote the most eloquent thing I've ever read on TB.

 

 

I enjoy that you used 'eloquent' and 'big dick of reality' in the same post. 

paigeed

The aid is still available right? They can get another interview, am I wrong? I don't think they are abusing people by being disorganized. I don't think that is a good situation and of course it's hard on those people but they can still get another opportunity to interview or apply.

paigeed

Sorry for my misreading.

I don't know how long it takes for another interview either. But I do know it is still available. So they could still reapply, just maybe not exactly when they would like to. While they wait there are CHP programs for child health care, food pantries, etc.

PrimRoseMama

paigeed said:

Sorry for my misreading.

I don't know how long it takes for another interview either. But I do know it is still available. So they could still reapply, just maybe not exactly when they would like to. While they wait there are CHP programs for child health care, food pantries, etc.

Why are you still talking? People who've actually had to take assistance for various reasons are telling you that you don't understand or know how the system works. You keep proving it. JFC.

Someone get that big dick of reality, please. Hurry.

paigeed

My point is:
The government provides lots of assistance in numerous programs.

People can apply to them. Some people abuse them.

The people who abuse them should be kicked off it.

paigeed

Maybe they should have more case workers checking for abuse of the system. (That the Feds deem abuse of the system)

In my eyes abuse of the system is:
-Spending welfare money on non essential items
-not providing for their children with the money
-not attempting to get a job if on unemployment
-leaving kids in child care when not at work or looking for a job
-collecting disability if not truly disabled (is capable of doing some form of work)
-using federal pell grants or federal scholarship/school money (not loans) on things other than school items

paigeed

@AnnaTTCat32‌ I do see where you are coming from. I am torn as to which I think would be more productive the support programs or the welfare cops. I just think something of that nature should happen to attempt to fix it a little bit.

Also, if we implement programs to get people off assistance through supports those people must be motivated and willing to do so. I'm not sure system abusers would be, but it may be worth a shot.

heatherwhite1984

gosh, is there a way to stop getting notifications for this thread? 

heatherwhite1984

the star is not yellow. i commented back in the way beginning. i have read quite a few posts since then and its nonsense. i just logged on and had 96! but had to look at all notifications to see if any other threads i commented on where part of that.

heatherwhite1984

thanks @dragonmom35 !

PrimRoseMama

dragonmom35 said:

sassypantzz said:

PrimRoseMama said:

paigeed said:

Sorry for my misreading.

I don't know how long it takes for another interview either. But I do know it is still available. So they could still reapply, just maybe not exactly when they would like to. While they wait there are CHP programs for child health care, food pantries, etc.

Why are you still talking? People who've actually had to take assistance for various reasons are telling you that you don't understand or know how the system works. You keep proving it. JFC.

Someone get that big dick of reality, please. Hurry.

Thank you for adding all that value to this post. There are people from your view point that very much are. You are quite obviously not one of them.

Seriously?

Feisty! hey I just came for the popcorn. The OP & other no-skittles-or-babies-for-poor-people folks got told by far more knowledgeable folk than me. :-??

PrimRoseMama

@dragonmom35‌ & @Encchanted‌ :-h

PrimRoseMama

MrsMuq said:

@primrosemama - WTH, woman?! I paged you to this shitshow yesterday afternoon. You're a day late and about 14 pages of nonsense short. I'm very disappointed. :P

These babies be babying lol.

pippacricket

heatherwhite1984 said:

gosh, is there a way to stop getting notifications for this thread? 

I'm not sure how to do it from the app, but from the site you can go under notification preferences and uncheck the box that says "Notify me when someone comments on a thread I comment on" or something like that.

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WashingtonQueen

dragonmom35 said:

sassypantzz said:

Sorry for my misreading. I don't know how long it takes for another interview either. But I do know it is still available. So they could still reapply, just maybe not exactly when they would like to. While they wait there are CHP programs for child health care, food pantries, etc.

Why are you still talking? People who've actually had to take assistance for various reasons are telling you that you don't understand or know how the system works. You keep proving it. JFC. Someone get that big dick of reality, please. Hurry.

Thank you for adding all that value to this post. There are people from your view point that very much are. You are quite obviously not one of them.

There are people on both sides of this issue adding nothing to the debate and yet you only call out one with whom you disagree?

Slow your roll there.

Couldn't have said it better myself

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you couldn't keep up. Read the convo. It appears to be productive until your confused friend arrived. I have commended a few well thought out posts the are of a differing view than mine. No discrimination here.

Because bitching about how long this thread is is productive. Ok then. And should I pull out the Bingo card? Because you know, I can't read and all. :-@

That's ok, she was trying to tell people how to respond on the Baby Name board the other day. And trying to call us pricks for explaining how much we hate misspelled names...

WashingtonQueen

@sassypantzz‌ , I never said anything about you being a mod. Since you want to mention it, I do find your behavior on the BNB quite odd, especially for a mod. Being a mod you should definitely know how the bump works, lurk first, all boards have their own feel/vibe, don't jump into a board expecting things to go your way because you say so, don't call the board members names. Pretty basic. The way you showed up on baby names is just like a butthurt white knight newbie on any other board. "Don't listen to them. Who cares what they think. Pricks." Seriously, it's ridiculous how you acted.

WashingtonQueen

GhostMonkey said:

WashingtonQueen said:

@sassypantzz‌ , I never said anything about you being a mod. Since you want to mention it, I do find your behavior on the BNB quite odd, especially for a mod. Being a mod you should definitely know how the bump works, lurk first, all boards have their own feel/vibe, don't jump into a board expecting things to go your way because you say so, don't call the board members names. Pretty basic. The way you showed up on baby names is just like a butthurt white knight newbie on any other board. "Don't listen to them. Who cares what they think. Pricks." Seriously, it's ridiculous how you acted.

Hold up, she name called and didn't lose her mod crown for it? That's some fucking bullshit right there.



It was around the TOU. You know, insinuating instead of directly.

paigeed

Good lord. I thought this thread had kind of come to a lull at the end of yesterday.

@etoille‌ if you had read all my posts you would know that I wasn't being a bitch about my way or the highway. I was trying to be more informed and listed to everyone's side. But when you come in here guns a blazing making generalizations and accusations about my knowledge level and opinion you get me fired up and I'm sure others as well. Come on. I was legitimately trying to calm this thing down and here you go again. Settle down.

This thread needs to agree to disagree and be over.

deidraandjonathan

All I'm saying is.. I want some skittles and to go to the beach BUT I live 15 minutes from any place that sells candy and 10 hours from a beach. The struggle is real, my friends. :-w

Just quit worrying about what everybody else is doing--problem solved. And you should really delete this person from your life if you think so lowly of her. It doesn't make you a friend to talk shit about her on a forum she won't read. It just makes you a two faced bitch. It sounds to me like this all stemmed from jealousy, in which case, you're the one with the problem.

Meery82

sassypantzz said:

sassypantzz said:

It isn't really my style, however if it had real significance to you I say screw everyone else.

 Including the kid that has to live with "I'm Ashlee with two Es" for the rest of her life?

Listen I wouldn't pick it. But by no stretch of the imagination, if the baby's parents had value in the name, would she be screwed. By screw everyone else, I sincerely meant only the judgemental pricks that are going to school the mother of a grade schooler for her choice of spelling. Just so we are clear... You are allowed to give an opinion on a name (hence the purpose of this board) but by no means is any child screwed.

This is what @sassypantzz said. She didn't call us pricks. The way I read it, she was referencing people that OP may encounter IRL who would talk shit about her grade school aged daughter's name. 

WashingtonQueen

Meery82 said:

sassypantzz said:

vulpini said:

sassypantzz said:

It isn't really my style, however if it had real significance to you I say screw everyone else.

 Including the kid that has to live with "I'm Ashlee with two Es" for the rest of her life?

Listen I wouldn't pick it. But by no stretch of the imagination, if the baby's parents had value in the name, would she be screwed. By screw everyone else, I sincerely meant only the judgemental pricks that are going to school the mother of a grade schooler for her choice of spelling. Just so we are clear... You are allowed to give an opinion on a name (hence the purpose of this board) but by no means is any child screwed.

This is what @sassypantzz said. She didn't call us pricks. The way I read it, she was referencing people that OP may encounter IRL who would talk shit about her grade school aged daughter's name. 

Oh, you mean like the gawker threads that happen multiple times everyday? She knew exactly what she was implying.

paigeed

@etoille‌ I am saying let's agree to disagree because this discussion is going nowhere. I am all for debate and I agree with some of the things you have said. But being snarky and judge mental about one another's opinions over an Internet forum is getting us nowhere.

You think you have all the answers too. No one does. I'm all for compromise. But one party can't think that their ideas are completely better than the others. I've never said that my ideas were better in any of my posts. I just simply have another opinion then some other people on the board. It doesn't mean I'm not willing to compromise a little.