Nope I would say forcing a 12 year old to kill so he can eat meat is worse than a direct sales party.
It's not something that I agree with. It's just something that DH believes in which is why I posted it in FFC. As in, this is what I married.
So because you know it is barbaric and ridiculous you are Not going to make your son do it right?
I wouldn't and won't make them base their decision of what they eat based on whether or not they hunt but if they WANT to hunt with DH and most of the family, we will be eating whatever they get. Since DH does view it as a survival skill (based very heavily on his childhood), I'm sure that he'd be disappointed if they chose not to ever learn it much as you have stated that you will be if your daughter chooses not to go to college.
Nope. Hunting isn't college. Try again.
And also, you are in PA. So your 12 year old is going to early squirrel? Really?
I'm saying that it is considered to be a life skill to some the way that college is to others. If our kids choose to go to a trade school, pursue an interest, or enlist in the military, we'll support that as long as they are able to provide for themselves.
Eat squirrel? Yes. We have and so have the kids. By the time our kids are 12, we won't live here anyways but we do know many 12 year olds who do go hunting.
No, we're from a rural area where both of our high schools had parking for tractors, farmer's children could be excused to do chores, and the first day of hunting is a school holiday.
ETA: Although, technically we don't live there anymore anyways.
I think it is totally gift grabby when couples have $$$$ registries and they have been living together already, or they are 40yo etc. Surely they have plates and sheets, right?
And I'm sure not buying a grown ass man a $550 All Clad crock pot.
Old people don't deserve wedding gifts? Odd.
Sad? It's not sad.
No where did I say I don't give a gift. Of course I give wedding gifts, generous ones at that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think it's ridiculous for people to register for things as a means to upgrade. Most of our friends did get married later, some of our closest are having their first kids at 40.
But nobody needs a $550 crock pot, sorry.
These are people that are well established in their careers and have been buying what they want for years.
Oh my gahhhh, this drives me insane! Why do you care what's on their registry? Don't buy it if you think it's too expensive! Give them a $25 check if that's more your style.
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No, we're from a rural area where both of our high schools had parking for tractors, farmer's children could be excused to do chores, and the first day of hunting is a school holiday.
ETA: Although, technically we don't live there anymore anyways.
So since you admitted you don't really live rural anymore don't you believe that survival skills change with both time and location? The survival skills needed to live 100 years ago on the plains are very different than the ones needed now in the city. While I think being able to hunt and procure your own food is a good skill I wouldn't consider it necessary for survival now, and I sure would not let my husband make our son hunt to eat.
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thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the
beginning of fairies.” - J.M. Barrie Peter Pan
I have died every day waiting for you. Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years. And all along I believed I would find you, time has brought your heart to me. I have loved you for a thousand years. I'll love you a thousand more.
I can't imagine feeling my child needed to learn to hunt to survive. I'd rather teach them to grow beans and leafy greens and adopt a vegan lifestyle. But then I've considered becoming vegetarian/vegan many times because thinking about the animal I'm eating as a living creature does bother me (then I remember bacon and decide I can't give up meat).
I think if you've been living as a couple for years but have a wedding shower because you want "newer, nicer home things" = Having a 2nd (3rd, etc.) baby shower even though you've already had one because you want "newer, nicer baby things".
Seriously? Who thinks like this? So odd.
Agreed, how can having a wedding shower = 3rd baby shower? I think this is so odd also.
Having a wedding shower when you already have what you need for your home because you've bought it yourself is the same as having a baby shower when you already have what you need for your baby because you had a shower for your first baby.
I am not going, but still need to send a gift... Right? Etiquette (and my mom) say a gift is required.
I wouldn't. You haven't seen this person for 20 years, why would you?
On the same note, we recently got a graduation invitation from someone on DH's side of the family. He has no clue who this person is, or who their parents are. Why the hell are we getting an invitation??
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I think it's shitty to judge when people get married. Who cares if they wait 10 years or so before they tie the knot? Who cares if they do it when they're 20? It's not your relationship and you have no magical ball telling you if it will work out or not.
My coworkers back when I got married said that A) I'd be divorced within a year or I'd be announcing my pregnancy soon. It's extremely rude IMO and people should just keep their judgements to themselves.
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How about housewarming parties? No gifts? I always bring a bottle of wine and a bouquet of flowers, maybe a candle. DH and I thought about having a party since we just moved but thought it might seem gift grabby. We would have never expected gifts. Plus, DD1's 2nd birthday party (YES, we really do it up too!!) is soon so we figured we'll give a tour of our home then.
We get invited to crap on DH's side like this all the time, and I am positive the host has no interest in inviting us. But it is this major drama/perceived slight between his parents and their parents or something dumb like that if we aren't.
It's really dumb. If I don't even know you or haven't even met you, I don't want an invitation to your daughter's graduation. What am I celebrating? The fact that I don't know you and your daughter is graduating? Please save some trees and spare me an invite.
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@Andrewsgal- While we don't live in the area that we did, we do currently live in a rural suburb and will be moved to another rural area with the nature of DH's profession. There are unfortunately many families who do still live like that in the area that we are from. We are both blessed to have had families who either were already wealthy or who had self made wealth.
We also have multiple friends and extended family members who have chosen to live fully independent lives in various parts of the world. Some have no permanent address yet none are monetarily poor. There are also those who are employed by teaching others their skills such as one who currently leads safari hunts with a company in another country.
Survival skill was probably the wrong term. Maybe life skill?
My cousin in GA had maybe 7-8 bridal showers? Ridiculous! Good thing I live in Indiana I was a bridesmaid so I went to the family shower with my Mom and DS when he was a baby. She had a couples shower, BBQ shower, booze shower, ornament shower, beach shower.... Her and her DH built their home and moved in right after their honeymoon. They had literally *everything* they needed. Liquor, curtains, holiday decor, everything! Greedy? I love her dearly but WTH. And her GA bridesmaids went to every single shower and brought gifts. Yikes!
ok, I need to see this said $550 crock pot. I call BS until I see a link to one in the store.
Also, I really think if you do not like the registry just get a GC for a shower and cash for wedding.
Having a wedding shower when you already have what you need for your home because you've bought it yourself is the same as having a baby shower when you already have what you need for your baby because you had a shower for your first baby.
This is ridiculous Momin2013.
one of the main reasons people side eye a second baby shower is because your family/friends already gave you gifts for your first baby. asking for more gifts is grabby IMO. Just like if a bride is getting married for 2nd time, she usually isn;t asking for another shower because they already got gifts. Whether she still has the first gifts or not is irrelevant.
spring time - I don't think you have to. If not attending a card is sufficient. Honestly though in your situation I wouldn't even care if it did break etiquette. they broke it fit by even sending you an invite. AND you will rarely see them again
I get annoyed by the "too pregnant" excuse to parent my child by some people.
Yeah, I know, everyone has a sob story (I was on bed rest, I was high risk, baby was sitting on my sciatica) Really, I get it. I shouldn't judge, I don't know their situation but they still bug me.
What did you think would happen when you had a child and get pg?
BUT...big BUT I will confess, I do give passes to my "friends"...so I am NOT an equal opportunity judge...lol
Is there some backstory to this? How could you not need some help parenting small children if you are on bedrest? It hardly seems like an excuse.
When people say they have 4 under 4 chills go up my spine.
I'm not judging those with 4u4 but I'm pretty sure my vagina would sew itself shut at the thought of a 4th child.
We know someone who is expecting her 6th in 7ish years. And here is the FFC: I judge them. The mom is always talking about how she can't take all of them out and about (too many kids for her to handle), how she couldn't do this without her mom's help, etc...
I believe that when you have enough children that you don't feel capable to care for them yourself, you should probably stop having them.
Oddly, it's only this person I judge. Others having a big family don't bother me as long as they can clothe/feed them. But as I listen to the mom's rants about constantly being overwhelmed all.the.time. I judge.
We know someone who is expecting her 6th in 7ish years. And here is the FFC: I judge them. The mom is always talking about how she can't take all of them out and about (too many kids for her to handle), how she couldn't do this without her mom's help, etc...
I believe that when you have enough children that you don't feel capable to care for them yourself, you should probably stop having them.
I judge DH's aunt. She has three kids and she hardly ever has all three together. She is always dumping them off at her mom's house even though her mom is 70 something. Any number of her kids are over there almost every single day of the week. Seriously, you're going to make your mom do your parenting job because you 'can't handle' it? 8-|
ETA: Forgot to add something.
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LOL so I jumped over to the Parenting board to check out their UO. They always have like 600 posts by noon. I've never posted there, just a lurker. Someone's UO was about judging moms who sends their kids to preschool in jammies. Another mom said who give a shit what their kid wears to preschool. Answer... SAHM board, with lots of love tits. Wow, do they hate us? LOL I know some of the ladies here post there, but they weren't the rude ones of course. WTH is up with that board?
LOL so I jumped over to the Parenting board to check out their UO. They always have like 600 posts by noon. I've never posted there, just a lurker. Someone's UO was about judging moms who sends their kids to preschool in jammies. Another mom said who give a shit what their kid wears to preschool. Answer... SAHM board, with lots of love tits. Wow, do they hate us? LOL I know some of the ladies here post there, but they weren't the rude ones of course. WTH is up with that board?
It doesn't usually go over very well to talk about other boards.
I'm really not talking bad at all, truly. Although, I think they had a low blow to the SAHM board, which was my point.
I'm actually kind of intrigued by that board. Lots of activity. It seems like there are both SAHM and WM over there. I'm just comfortable over here
LOL so I jumped over to the Parenting board to check out their UO. They always have like 600 posts by noon. I've never posted there, just a lurker. Someone's UO was about judging moms who sends their kids to preschool in jammies. Another mom said who give a shit what their kid wears to preschool. Answer... SAHM board, with lots of love tits. Wow, do they hate us? LOL I know some of the ladies here post there, but they weren't the rude ones of course. WTH is up with that board?
It doesn't usually go over very well to talk about other boards.
yeah, because they usually come over here and start commenting in this thread.
LOL so I jumped over to the Parenting board to check out their UO. They always have like 600 posts by noon. I've never posted there, just a lurker. Someone's UO was about judging moms who sends their kids to preschool in jammies. Another mom said who give a shit what their kid wears to preschool. Answer... SAHM board, with lots of love tits. Wow, do they hate us? LOL I know some of the ladies here post there, but they weren't the rude ones of course. WTH is up with that board?
It doesn't usually go over very well to talk about other boards.
Eh, this has been an odd, ongoing thing. As much as I can piece together, parenting, which is pretty well established, had some (probably very valid) beefs with some of the old heads on the SAHM board of yore. The rep stuck, but usually most of the stuff they reference isn't even valid to the board anymore. I don't get it, because really both boards have equal amount of snark and nonsense, but the heals have been dug in I suppose. They are funny, we are funny, it's a weird thing at this point.
Also, they hate Kate for reasons I could never really pin down.
Thank you for explaining!! I've just always been curious...
Does anyone actually give a fuck what kids wear to preschool? Anyway the whole parenting hate for SAHM has become a bump thing like pouch hate and the like.
I had the shower with my first marriage. I didn't want another wedding or shower with DH, but he had never been married before so I did it all again. Don't regret it as the wedding with DH was much more memorable but I did tell my friends not to worry about getting us a gift as they already did just 3 years prior.
Does anyone actually give a fuck what kids wear to preschool? Anyway the whole parenting hate for SAHM has become a bump thing like pouch hate and the like.
I can't imagine that anyone would actually care. If I'm taking my kid to preschool, you can bet that I'm going to be in a hurry to get them dropped off because I'm probably late, not worried about what other kids are wearing.
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Does anyone actually give a fuck what kids wear to preschool? Anyway the whole parenting hate for SAHM has become a bump thing like pouch hate and the like.
I am pretty sure there was a thread (probably started by Hav) where people said that they wouldn't send their kids to preschool in pajamas. I am positive there was a thread at some point where people said they would only send their kids to preschool in pajamas on pajama day, and that they judged people who didn't purchase new pajamas for that day. I like this board, but I think some of the beef may be legitimate.
you can bounce a bouncer w/ your foot from the shower if need be.
I'm horribly uncoordinated and could never manage this. I just let my kid cry for 5 minutes. They all seem well adjusted, except for the one that eats crayons... Eating crayons means they're poorly adjusted? Ut oh, mine eats markers what's that mean?
Hallelujah, it's a miracle, I have children AND a signature!
Does anyone actually give a fuck what kids wear to preschool? Anyway the whole parenting hate for SAHM has become a bump thing like pouch hate and the like.
I am pretty sure there was a thread (probably started by Hav) where people said that they wouldn't send their kids to preschool in pajamas. I am positive there was a thread at some point where people said they would only send their kids to preschool in pajamas on pajama day, and that they judged people who didn't purchase new pajamas for that day. I like this board, but I think some of the beef may be legitimate.
Eh I still don't think that means their beef is legit. We judge what kids wear they judge if shopping carts are returned. In the end we all judge stupid crap BOTH the parenting at SAHM board. It's the bump FFS the home of ridiculous judgement they are no less guilty than us.
Does anyone actually give a fuck what kids wear to preschool? Anyway the whole parenting hate for SAHM has become a bump thing like pouch hate and the like.
I am pretty sure there was a thread (probably started by Hav) where people said that they wouldn't send their kids to preschool in pajamas. I am positive there was a thread at some point where people said they would only send their kids to preschool in pajamas on pajama day, and that they judged people who didn't purchase new pajamas for that day. I like this board, but I think some of the beef may be legitimate.
Yeah I remember that Hav thread from back in my lurking days.
I am pretty sure there was a thread (probably started by Hav) where people said that they wouldn't send their kids to preschool in pajamas. I am positive there was a thread at some point where people said they would only send their kids to preschool in pajamas on pajama day, and that they judged people who didn't purchase new pajamas for that day. I like this board, but I think some of the beef may be legitimate.
I'm dying to know about this Hav. I've seen lots of references but heard very little. I have a feeling it's a don't ask, don't tell sort of thing, like she-who-may-not-be-named.
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Okay this thread is evidence as to why Parenting thinks we're uptight bitter bitches. No parties for anything ever... This board can be like that.
The thing is it's always a few crazies (cough @MomIn2013 cough) that say stupid shit like that. And then it's OMG SAHM thinks no one should have parties ever.
It's like this everywhere. ONE person on s12 once said that she was anti-NIP and suddenly Oct '10 was all over our board posting NIP pictures and telling us all we were uptight assholes, even though the majority of us had spent pages telling the OP she was nuts.
This drives me nuts. Other boards swoop down to tell a board that they're horrible people because they're all clearly anti-NIP. No, and if you had read the other pages you would've seen people had already discussed it.
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It's like this everywhere. ONE person on s12 once said that she was anti-NIP and suddenly Oct '10 was all over our board posting NIP pictures and telling us all we were uptight assholes, even though the majority of us had spent pages telling the OP she was nuts.
This drives me nuts. Other boards swoop down to tell a board that they're horrible people because they're all clearly anti-NIP. No, and if you had read the other pages you would've seen people had already discussed it.
Do you remember this? It was insane. It was a UO thread we had to label NSFW because even though there's nothing wrong with NIP, no one wanted their boss to walk by and see it.
Ya I do. It made me roll my eyes then, and it makes me roll my eyes now
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I hate wedding/baby showers. I have no problem getting a gift but I just don't like going to them.
I am a huge registry judger. I try not to but... Really, I know this girl who made a huge deal about how her and her FI waited so long to get married and they were so responsible and sounded a lot like Amy#s (kids shouldn't get married, etc). Then she registered for dish towels and an oven mitt. Like $4 dish towels.
I judge some of the stuff people put on registries ( why do you need 2 matching $150 Margarita machines?)
I don't judge people putting dish towels and pot holders. People try to put a wide price range of things. If I'm doing a "kitchen basket" of things for the shower, it's nice to know what colors and style they like. People put baby Tylenol and baby wash on baby registries, NBD.
Yeah but those things are consumable. I think it is really odd to have hand painted China and $4 dish towels on the same registry. Yeah, you could make a kitchen basket but I still think it is odd. But everything else about this wedding may be souring my opinion of it, I admit that.
I don't mind honeymoon registries like honey fund. These are the only registries ever set up in my circle of friends as everyone has everything they need already and no one usually gives actual gifts anymore. With or without registry everyone just gives a check.
Re: How do we not have a UO thread?
Nope. Hunting isn't college. Try again.
I'm saying that it is considered to be a life skill to some the way that college is to others. If our kids choose to go to a trade school, pursue an interest, or enlist in the military, we'll support that as long as they are able to provide for themselves.
Eat squirrel? Yes. We have and so have the kids. By the time our kids are 12, we won't live here anyways but we do know many 12 year olds who do go hunting.
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ETA: Although, technically we don't live there anymore anyways.
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So since you admitted you don't really live rural anymore don't you believe that survival skills change with both time and location? The survival skills needed to live 100 years ago on the plains are very different than the ones needed now in the city. While I think being able to hunt and procure your own food is a good skill I wouldn't consider it necessary for survival now, and I sure would not let my husband make our son hunt to eat.
Or I'll just die. That's probably easier.
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On the same note, we recently got a graduation invitation from someone on DH's side of the family. He has no clue who this person is, or who their parents are. Why the hell are we getting an invitation??
My coworkers back when I got married said that A) I'd be divorced within a year or
We also have multiple friends and extended family members who have chosen to live fully independent lives in various parts of the world. Some have no permanent address yet none are monetarily poor. There are also those who are employed by teaching others their skills such as one who currently leads safari hunts with a company in another country.
Survival skill was probably the wrong term. Maybe life skill?
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I know Williams Sonoma sells a $400 all clad one.
How could you not need some help parenting small children if you are on bedrest? It hardly seems like an excuse.
ETA: Sorry to have wasted so much of UO on this.
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I believe that when you have enough children that you don't feel capable to care for them yourself, you should probably stop having them.
Oddly, it's only this person I judge. Others having a big family don't bother me as long as they can clothe/feed them. But as I listen to the mom's rants about constantly being overwhelmed all.the.time. I judge.
ETA: Forgot to add something.
I'm really not talking bad at all, truly. Although, I think they had a low blow to the SAHM board, which was my point.
I'm actually kind of intrigued by that board. Lots of activity. It seems like there are both SAHM and WM over there. I'm just comfortable over here
Thank you for explaining!! I've just always been curious...
I am positive there was a thread at some point where people said they would only send their kids to preschool in pajamas on pajama day, and that they judged people who didn't purchase new pajamas for that day.
I like this board, but I think some of the beef may be legitimate.
Eating crayons means they're poorly adjusted? Ut oh, mine eats markers what's that mean?
Eh I still don't think that means their beef is legit. We judge what kids wear they judge if shopping carts are returned. In the end we all judge stupid crap BOTH the parenting at SAHM board. It's the bump FFS the home of ridiculous judgement they are no less guilty than us.
I am positive there was a thread at some point where people said they would only send their kids to preschool in pajamas on pajama day, and that they judged people who didn't purchase new pajamas for that day.
I like this board, but I think some of the beef may be legitimate.
Yeah I remember that Hav thread from back in my lurking days.
The thing is it's always a few crazies (cough @MomIn2013 cough) that say stupid shit like that. And then it's OMG SAHM thinks no one should have parties ever.