No one is saying Macy is an innocent victim, @darcyhermione they're saying she fucked up and she knows it. So what is everyone getting out of continuing to lay it on her? You aren't telling her anything she doesn't realize already.
She personally messaged people apologizing but because she didn't put on a show for everyone on here she's being reamed out. There's no winning here for her. So why don't the anti-Macy committee reel it in a bit, quit circle jerking each others reasoning why "ZOMG none of us are safe from Macy!!1!!1!1" and give it a rest. You win. All of your PMs and comments make her not want to post here for the time being. Congrats.
No one is saying Macy is an innocent victim, @darcyhermione they're saying she fucked up and she knows it. So what is everyone getting out of continuing to lay it on her? You aren't telling her anything she doesn't realize already.
She personally messaged people apologizing but because she didn't put on a show for everyone on here she's being reamed out. There's no winning here for her. So why don't the anti-Macy committee reel it in a bit, quit circle jerking each others reasoning why "ZOMG none of us are safe from Macy!!1!!1!1" and give it a rest. You win. All of your PMs and comments make her not want to post here for the time being. Congrats.
I'm trying to stay out of all this drama but just curios was Macy the only person that knew who she was and didn't try to tell anyone?
No. Other people also knew, but Macy is getting all the blame.
That is the part that bothers me as well.
I totally agree with both @NotElsie and @CatMagick. No, Macy is not blameless. She messed up. From what I understand (which may be wrong), she and Lovely became real life friends and this is the first time something like this happened where Lovely came back under a different name after everything last year.
I love @BatMacy as a person and am willing to give her a second chance BUT completely understand why people would disagree with this. If Macy has not done this before then she personally deserves that chance to start fresh and try again. Not saying it will be an easy road for her, though.
I don't think Lovely/JR should ever be allowed back, but I also don't think Macy should be blamed for the whole mess. She had a hand in it but said she has cut ties with Lovely (her real life best friend, which is a really tough thing to do), and I feel like it may be a time where she can learn and grow after doing something she admitted was wrong.
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@DarcyHermione I think people apologize with the hopes of being forgiven but she's not going around lamenting or not understanding why the community isn't rushing her back in here with open arms. She's laying low and not causing a bunch of extra drama. But the mob is still running after her looking for her head on a stick.
@DarcyHermione I think people apologize with the hopes of being forgiven but she's not going around lamenting or not understanding why the community isn't rushing her back in here with open arms. She's laying low and not causing a bunch of extra drama. But the mob is still running after her looking for her head on a stick.
I don't want her head on a stick. But I would have liked an explanation from her, which she could provided yesterday when she was clearly here love titting everything.
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I'm trying to stay out of all this drama but just curios was Macy the only person that knew who she was and didn't try to tell anyone?
No. Other people also knew, but Macy is getting all the blame.
Did anyone else know from the beginning? Because Macy did and that's why she's getting the brunt of it.
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@DarcyHermione I think people apologize with the hopes of being forgiven but she's not going around lamenting or not understanding why the community isn't rushing her back in here with open arms. She's laying low and not causing a bunch of extra drama. But the mob is still running after her looking for her head on a stick.
I don't want her head on a stick. But I would have liked an explanation from her, which she could provided yesterday when she was clearly here love titting everything.
This. Honestly I'd rather her come clean about it and explain. I feel like wanting to quit is the easy way out here. I appreciate her apology, I do. Like I said, I considered Macy a friend and I want to understand. It's just hard when it seems like there are no real answers.
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As much as I would like an explanation/actual apology/whatever, I don't think I would be able to trust or believe anything she said. So with that, I'm done here.
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
I'm trying to stay out of all this drama but just curios was Macy the only person that knew who she was and didn't try to tell anyone?
No. Other people also knew, but Macy is getting all the blame.
So why aren't these other people being tracked down and burned at the stake too?
Where are all our investigators?
I've only given out personal info to a few ppl and I'd be so upset if they turned around and gave it out to someone else. I'd also hold myself responsible because I'm the one that made my info available and it's the internet, how well do we really know people across a computer? How much info should we actually be sharing? I know better than giving out to much personal info.
I take this experience as a reminder that you have to be careful about personal info.
With that said, despite really liking my avatar, I'm going to change it, because I don't like that it's become a lightning rod for choosing sides or whatever. In my old age I've realized there are far too many shades of grey.
This exactly. Me too. I am bummed and don't really want to change it, but I don't want to appear as though I have stake in or really care much more about this drama. Peace out.
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I'm trying to stay out of all this drama but just curios was Macy the only person that knew who she was and didn't try to tell anyone?
No. Other people also knew, but Macy is getting all the blame.
So why aren't these other people being tracked down and burned at the stake too?
Where are all our investigators?
I've only given out personal info to a few ppl and I'd be so upset if they turned around and gave it out to someone else. I'd also hold myself responsible because I'm the one that made my info available and it's the internet, how well do we really know people across a computer? How much info should we actually be sharing? I know better than giving out to much personal info.
I take this experience as a reminder that you have to be careful about personal info.
Because the people who found out about it just recently did the right thing and went to a mod about it.
Now I'm confused.
So when I asked if Macy was the only one that knew and didn't tell anyone the answer was no. Leading me to believe there are others out there that knew along with Macy and chose to never to tell anyone.
I understood there are people that found out and told mods. That's a whole different situation.
I'm asking are there other people that knew for weeks/months and did not tell anyone?
I hate that despite not having a super strong opinion, I have to make a purposeful decision to keep my avatar or not: to change it and appear one way, to keep it and appear another... I may not CARE how I appear but I can't ignore that both action and inaction are going to be perceived certain ways and whatever decision I make needs to be in mind of those consequences.
Again, I have a headache. I have a note and two reports to finish.
Solution:
I'm going to wendy's to get a cheeseburger with chili and fries salad and a strawberry lemonade.
I hate that despite not having a super strong opinion, I have to make a purposeful decision to keep my avatar or not: to change it and appear one way, to keep it and appear another... I may not CARE how I appear but I can't ignore that both action and inaction are going to be perceived certain ways and whatever decision I make needs to be in mind of those consequences.
Again, I have a headache. I have a note and two reports to finish.
Solution:
I'm going to wendy's to get a cheeseburger with chili and fries salad and a strawberry lemonade.
You could take CLE's approach and just blur your bumper hero. That seems pretty middle of the road to me lol
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HOWEVER, The other mutual FB friend that I had with Lovely when I found her profile I believe did know about the previous Lovely drama although I'm not certain she was around in it. I find it VERY surprising to see that person posting in the way they are in this thread. I'm not going to out them either. It's their place to do it if they want to explain that friendship (?). I just found it very interesting, especially in light of the recent posts.
I'm going to go ahead and assume you're talking about me, so I'll address it. After the lovely shit went down, I was fucking pissed. Randomly, she messaged me about my miscarriage on FB (gee I wonder how she found me.) She sent me a messaging pleading her case about how she was just trying to be cool for the old regs and it wasn't her who was the librarian, which I'm pretty sure she mentioned in the OP. So, I "forgave" her and when she added me, I accepted.
I've said multiple times that I don't give a flying fuck that Macy was friends with her. That's not the point here. I am "responding this way in this thread" because she came back and fooled everyone. I am highly fucking disappointed with Macy that she is trying to play victim to something that she knew what happening and chose to be a part of.
If I was facebook friends with lovely, that has nothing to do with anything, IMO. I didn't know lovely was JR. Any more questions? You don't have to play Nancy fucking Drew...you can straight up ask me.
Regarding the bolded.. When you have mutual friends on FB, and know what people look like from when we did IG photo contests.. it is really not that hard to put 2 and 2 together. That's how I found you.
I think a good old apology and many people will move on and as time goes on many will forget. Others wont, but that is what it is.
I keep getting a sentence typed, and then get interrupted for the last few hours, so I think this has all been covered and undoubtedly it will be tl;dr. I am always quoting MeatandBandP because I often agree - I should probably just add +1 and leave it at that. But no, I'm compelled to share my (not so) deep thoughts.
I don't think this is something that can be unilaterally decided. Just as some will give Macy another chance, some will not. Regardless of age, she should have known better, she made a very poor choice that most certainly means many here will never forgive her. We all know the Bump never forgets.
I think she's been a contributor to the board in many ways and she can choose how or if she wants to come back and take her chances and see if she can earn trust and/or be liked again by those who are/were hurt or just angry by the path she chose of staying silent AND acting along for the entirety of Lovely's most recent deception. If she comes back, it will also be a decision for each of us if we wish to give her another chance and how we wish to handle responses to her posts.
Quite honestly, I think I missed (or glossed over?) a lot of the back and forth between JR, Macy and apparently another AE somewhere along the line in various threads - and it does sound like there was more going on beneath the surface than Macy simply not speaking up (which I was thinking initially) - I guess especially with all the off-board activities that really led to people feeling betrayed at Macy's silence and shared activity with JR.
A separate note, I hadn't seen the discussions regarding the bumperheroes until yesterday, and I didn't realize there was some dissension due to them. I hadn't recognized the connection to previous "badge/siggy/clique" types of issues on TTGP/TB, but I can see the similarity once that point was raised. I don't feel an urgency to change mine immediately, but was never planning on keeping it forever.
Overall, I don't have an overwhelming personal stake in this. I always liked Macy and her Board persona she shared here (before the shit with lovely/JR) - but I can see that many believe they can't be separated, and that is certainly valid. I think I don't feel too personally involved, because I was not remotely invested in JR, even before her super-dick moves in the grad/Carib thread (which I almost missed that whole thing too (thanks Obama!)), and I certainly had an eye out for her shit after that. I can see where anyone who was sucked in and deceived would feel a much more personal betrayal.
However, it is very clear to me that many others on the board (whom I care for and respect deeply) do have strong feelings about it, and I appreciate they have made that clear and helped share where they are coming from.
So, there - a crystal clear argument from Switzerland.
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Also, I seemed to have missed another whole page of this thread (probably typing out a too long post).
I was totally not making fun of @Katnhiding asking this to be dropped (which is actually reasonably legit, since you were one of the most affected and that truly sucks), I only saw the couple before Daisy's post and thought they were kind of funny and over dramatic.
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There are a few of us that have quite a lady boner for you, @sister13 :x
Dorothy- you're part of the "us" I was referring to! Can't we share @sister13? I still love me some @ellyd14, too!
Awww. And I would totally grind with all of you at a prison dance party. Or any dance party. Or, you know, just if we were at a cafe for brunch or something.
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*checks thread growth pattern, notes 'personal fights and let it drop phase' on clipboard*
Looks like it's transitioning to the circle jerk phase.
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
*checks thread growth pattern, notes 'personal fights and let it drop phase' on clipboard*
Looks like it's transitioning to the circle jerk phase.
I'm sorry, this opinion goes against the herd so I'm going to have to insist that you are banned now. I'm sure you understand, being a mod and all.
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Do I detect a "hint of maliciousness" in your comment?
BANNED!
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
uh @EllyD14, I always profess my love for you. It doesn't take a thread like this for THAT. Come on, now...
:x **I have sausage fingers. Hopefully that's the right one.
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
uh @EllyD14, I always profess my love for you. It doesn't take a thread like this for THAT. Come on, now...
:x **I have sausage fingers. Hopefully that's the right one.
At first I was like "what is Elly trying to tell me? Sausage fingers eh?! well, well, well..." then I realized you were referring to using the right emoji. *Fail*
NSFW to talk about sexual things. Sorry, we're going to have to ban you.
ETA: also, apparently homosexuality is enough to get you an R rating? WTF?! I hated the stupidity of the rating system before, but this is just nonsense. I really hope that was outdated information.
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
Seriously I've been curious about the lemon ones. One of the groceries by me sells 11 varieties of Oreos.
I'm curious about the raspberry fudge cream ones.
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Wait... what? As a casual and frequent swear-er, did they change the rules on swearing? Or has it been like that forever but and I'm just an idiot? Becaaauuussseeeee.... if swearing is bad I'm in trouble. Fuck.
Side note: all GF Oreo knock offs are CRAP. Don't bother.
I have a recipe if you bake.
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You'll have to wait until I find a place to live and can access my computer. Then it's all yours.
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Dear Jr/Lovely/Librarian if you are able to lurk this post after being banned,
When you message me asking for names and I tell you no at least 4 times, then refuse to respond to you, that does not give you the right to convince someone to give you my FACEBOOK link and start to message me there. I've blocked you. Do not message me again. I'm making this public here on the boards so that if anyone else is feeling friendly and wants to pass on my personal information to her please fucking do not.
WTF???? I would feel seriously violated if any of my friends from TB who know me IRL pass on my info to friends from TB who don't. Not cool.
*lurking from D14* Just wanted to let you ladies know that the turn this post took makes me soo happy. I'm officially a TTGP fangirl. Also: the fudge covered mint Oreos are heaven sent. Try them!!
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She personally messaged people apologizing but because she didn't put on a show for everyone on here she's being reamed out. There's no winning here for her. So why don't the anti-Macy committee reel it in a bit, quit circle jerking each others reasoning why "ZOMG none of us are safe from Macy!!1!!1!1" and give it a rest. You win. All of your PMs and comments make her not want to post here for the time being. Congrats.
I don't think Lovely/JR should ever be allowed back, but I also don't think Macy should be blamed for the whole mess. She had a hand in it but said she has cut ties with Lovely (her real life best friend, which is a really tough thing to do), and I feel like it may be a time where she can learn and grow after doing something she admitted was wrong.
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As much as I would like an explanation/actual apology/whatever, I don't think I would be able to trust or believe anything she said. So with that, I'm done here.
So why aren't these other people being tracked down and burned at the stake too?
Where are all our investigators?
I've only given out personal info to a few ppl and I'd be so upset if they turned around and gave it out to someone else. I'd also hold myself responsible because I'm the one that made my info available and it's the internet, how well do we really know people across a computer? How much info should we actually be sharing? I know better than giving out to much personal info.
I take this experience as a reminder that you have to be careful about personal info.
TTC #1 8/2012~Chronic Pelvic Pain Condition began 10/2012~Told I was crazy by many doctors until a good specialist DXed a labral tear and bone impingement in left hip 4/2013~Surgery on left hip: 5/31/13 SUCCESS!!! Pain flares to continue indefinitely (but mostly gone).
Resumed TTC 6/2013~Chronic stomach pain and distension: 8/2013~TTA 1/2014 Until Resolved ~7/2014: Trip to the Mayo Clinic--SUCCESS!! Finally on the road to getting better.
Resumed TTC 7/2014! Third time's the charm....8/2014 Visited the RE~DX: MFI/low morph~Straight to IVF with ICSI! 9/2014~Transferred 1 perfect beautiful 6AA blast with 10 to freeze!!!~10/8/2014: BFP!!!! EDD: 6/17/15 STICK LITTLE BEAN!!! IT'S A BOY!!!!!
So when I asked if Macy was the only one that knew and didn't tell anyone the answer was no. Leading me to believe there are others out there that knew along with Macy and chose to never to tell anyone.
I understood there are people that found out and told mods. That's a whole different situation.
I'm asking are there other people that knew for weeks/months and did not tell anyone?
You could take CLE's approach and just blur your bumper hero. That seems pretty middle of the road to me lol
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My Chart
TTC#1 since May 2012. Low AMH, High FSH.
Factor II (Prothrombin) Mutation
TTGP Award Best PIP 2013 & 2014
My Chart
TTC#1 since May 2012. Low AMH, High FSH.
Factor II (Prothrombin) Mutation
TTGP Award Best PIP 2013 & 2014
My Chart
TTC#1 since May 2012. Low AMH, High FSH.
Factor II (Prothrombin) Mutation
TTGP Award Best PIP 2013 & 2014
My Chart
TTC#1 since May 2012. Low AMH, High FSH.
Factor II (Prothrombin) Mutation
TTGP Award Best PIP 2013 & 2014
My Chart
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Excuse me?
Do I detect a "hint of maliciousness" in your comment?
BANNED!
NSFW to talk about sexual things. Sorry, we're going to have to ban you.
ETA: also, apparently homosexuality is enough to get you an R rating? WTF?! I hated the stupidity of the rating system before, but this is just nonsense. I really hope that was outdated information.
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Just wanted to let you ladies know that the turn this post took makes me soo happy. I'm officially a TTGP fangirl. Also: the fudge covered mint Oreos are heaven sent. Try them!!
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