Dear Jr/Lovely/Librarian if you are able to lurk this post after being banned,
When you message me asking for names and I tell you no at least 4 times, then refuse to respond to you, that does not give you the right to convince someone to give you my FACEBOOK link and start to message me there. I've blocked you. Do not message me again. I'm making this public here on the boards so that if anyone else is feeling friendly and wants to pass on my personal information to her please fucking do not.
Whoa, Kat...what an invasion of privacy. So obviously there are people on her 'side' who are helping her out...I just don't get it. Why?
Let me just say that IDGAF if you are someone's best friend that just got caught up in all her lies...you DO NOT give that person someone else's IRL name so they can message them. WTF just happened...? Definitely watch who you worship around these parts. CLE said it best.
I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of avatars changing soon...
This is DEFCON 5 threat-level orange batshit crazy.
Oh this is so fucked. Wow. Whoever gave Lovely Kat's FB information should just PTFO now because this shit WILL get out and it will not be cute.
I could guess who it was. 8-|
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
I will quite happily keep my awesome avatar. I've handled the issue with the person who did it and I can kind of put myself into their shoes. I wanted to put it out there though for anyone else that she may contact to get a hold of me since she was being quite persistent.
@katnhiding- I am glad you handled it and that the person apologized. I don't think this needs to turn in to yet another witch hunt.
Me: 28 H: 28 DS: 4
[TTC Since October 2013][ BFP 1.27.15 EDD: 10.8.15]
I WEAR ORANGE FOR MY GRANDMA- SUPPORT KIDNEY CANCER AWARENESS Trinitrotoluene: "My ears have been deflowered ....my mouth just hasn't been!"
I will quite happily keep my awesome avatar. I've handled the issue with the person who did it and I can kind of put myself into their shoes. I wanted to put it out there though for anyone else that she may contact to get a hold of me since she was being quite persistent.
Ok but didn't this happen the last time she went off the deep end? She stalked people incessantly and wouldn't quit. Why is this person enabling that level of BSC? I don't have a single fuck to give if they're BFFs or not, you don't give out people's private information, PERIOD.
I would be losing my fucking shit if my personal info was handed out without my permission. I don't give a fuck who gave it out, no forgiveness or empathy would be given.
I will quite happily keep my awesome avatar. I've handled the issue with the person who did it and I can kind of put myself into their shoes. I wanted to put it out there though for anyone else that she may contact to get a hold of me since she was being quite persistent.
Ok but didn't this happen the last time she went off the deep end? She stalked people incessantly and wouldn't quit. Why is this person enabling that level of BSC? I don't have a single fuck to give if they're BFFs or not, you don't give out people's private information, PERIOD.
I would be losing my fucking shit if my personal info was handed out without my permission. I don't give a fuck who gave it out, no forgiveness or empathy would be given.
Well thankfully my FB profile is pretty locked down unless I add someone as a friend. They can see my cover photo and my picture and that's it. I don't even use my full name so she doesn't have that much information on me, but I don't want it becoming more. I swear if she gets a hold of my phone number...
All of that said, it appears it WAS necessary for me to post it here (and she is lurking, waves) because she managed to get a message to a completely different person for me to read.
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Jaw drop.
Whoa. Do you need a safe house?
I would let you come here... BUT NO ONE CAN KNOW WHERE I LIVE... You crazy peoples! lol
Married June 2008DD Born Nov 2011TTC #2 Since March 2013
I would suggest anyone that hasn't deleted/blocked her on SC to do so.
It's the whole friends of friends bullshit on FB that gives me the creeps.
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
I'm just sitting here love-titting and sipping my rosé, but there's a lot of WTF here, and every time I refresh it just gets F-ier.
I just don't get that if someone was coming back here after a total train wreck (and I was on the board, but not in chat for the Lovely/Librarian business) that they would start trying to get to know people IRL and get involved in all of that. Because when people start knowing you IRL, it's a lot harder to keep that shit under wraps. If you wanted support through your IF journey, it's really easy to get that support on the board. Maybe in anonymous chat if you felt the need. But once why on earth if you were trying to come back from something like that would you not just bury it. Or find another board.
It's times like this (and really, most all of the time) that I'm okay being a second or third string reg. I'm not saying that in a self-deprecating way, it's true and it's fine. I've never felt like I had to be something I wasn't to be here. Granted, there are a few people on the boards who know my real first name from PMs. And there are a very few (one's a reg here) who I was on another board with that know a fair amount about my life. And if there was a Southeast or Texas GTG, I'd probably go if I was invited. But, right now, I'm pretty happy with my level here. Noticeable, accepted as a part of the team, able to give and get advice, but not a 'cool kid'. I've been here in varying degrees for almost 18 months (the first 6ish were an occasionally participating lurker, I remember when Darcy first intro-ed), but I'm happy on the board.
That's not to say I don't really love this board. There are women on here that I would totally be friends with IRL, and (wine is making me super emotional) this board has been a total godsend to me over the past year. I have received a massive amount of support and love and I do truly feel cared about by my internet 'stranger' friends. And I feel all of this just by being on the board. This is not to say I'd never go RL with people (because I have nothing to lie about and haven't misrepresented myself on here), but it is to say that one can get all of that just by being on the board. So, to bring it back around, I don't understand the need to go off-board if you had something to hide in the first place.
Sorry for the wall, I have lots of feels and lots of wine.
TTC #1 since 11/2012 Me-31, H-27 **Loss 1-Cycle 7(June 2013) at 5w6d-CP**Loss 2-Cycle 11(October 2013) at 5w4d-CP** **Loss 3-Cycle 14 (January-February 2014)-M/C dx 2/10, EP dx 2/24, MTX 2/25** Beta Hell--hCG finally down to 0 - 6/20/14 SA normal. Genetic testing normal. Hormonal testing normal. HSG 6/30/14 - found blocked left tube and 2 'bubbles' on uterine wall. Hysteroscopy/Lap--8/4/14 - Tubes unblocked. Polyps removed from uterine wall. Septum removed. 9/30/14--Off the bench! Unmedicated TI through December 2014 BFP 12/14/14!!! Beta #1, 12/16: 990 Beta #2, 12/18: Over 2000! Beta #3, 12/22: over 8000! U/S #1, 12/23: gestational sac, possible heartbeat U/S #2, 12/30: HEARTBEAT! 128bpm, measuring right on at 7w EDD: 8/19/2015 U/S #3, 1/9: BPM in the 180s, IT'S HAPPENING!!!
Ok I will say this and then I'm hauling my crampy ass to bed:
We are a sometimes hateful group of over sharing hoars but there are few absolutes that we stand by as a group besides whatever the TOS says and the one that has always been highest is "do not post/share IRL personal information" especially to people with a history of instability and stalkerish personalities.
Don't do it. This is a safe ass place for people to share otherwise mortifying things in semi-anonymity. Let's keep it that way.
This. I'm always so surprised how willingly people share their personal information here. We all know a lot of personal things about each other and I think that can lead people into a false sense of security. It's easy to feel that you "know" someone when you see their name popping up all the time.
At the end of the day, everything someone has told you about themselves could be a downright lie and how would you know? How would you feel safe enough to be sharing personal information back and forth? Even with Facebook, friending someone allows them access to your pictures, your friends, your family. It's a pretty steep risk in my opinion.
I love this board and all the information and humor here. It's great to learn from and support each other. But instead of moving these relationships to Facebook or getting to a point where I share personal information, I'd rather just keep posting gifs and love-titting things and sharing things that are safe enough to be on a public forum... But maybe I'm just paranoid. Especially after seeing all this unfold.
I'm so late to this but I'm glad it's over. Kudos to the people who started to piece this together.
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38 Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
I don't have time to read all of the comments right now because I have to go to work, so if this was already answered please ignore it. I'm also not up to date with all of the lovely drama because I came shortly after, so I might be missing something. So were you ever pregnant at all then? Because you told me that you had a miscarriage during a conversation in chat right after my loss. If you made that up, that's messed up.
Wow, I miss one day with worky-work work work, and a whole drama explosion happens. It's gonna take me all weekend to figure out the backstory and what happened. Or I can get drunk and buy shoes. I do need new shoes.
J'15 January Signature Challenge: Pinterest Fail: I want to do one, but I was late in starting and now I'm too lazy to get in on it. This is how most of my pinterest fails normally occur, at least I didnt buy supplies.
TTC since March 2014 BFP#1 09/25/2014 EDD 6/4/2015
I don't have time to read all of the comments right now because I have to go to work, so if this was already answered please ignore it. I'm also not up to date with all of the lovely drama because I came shortly after, so I might be missing something. So were you ever pregnant at all then? Because you told me that you had a miscarriage during a conversation in chat right after my loss. If you made that up, that's messed up.
In oct/nov I was in chat in June BMB and she told me she was preg too. She was under a diff name but once everyone left she came clean to me about who she was.
Seriously she's obviously got some kind of mental sickness to constantly keep coming back and making up lies. She needs some serious help.
If she wanted to just come for support because of IF she would have just gone there introduced herself and stayed. Instead she came here and got all involved and pretended to be someone else. She's got a sickness.
Let me just say we have some awesome investigators here to figure all this out. I'm still trying to put it all together.
Lovely, you are like a freaking toddler that won't stay in time out. And like a middle schooler trying to fit in. I wouldn't be surprised if you are really a 12 year old boy IRL.
First of all, the whole wanting to stay because of needing support through IF thing is bullshit. You could have recreated yourself and gone to 3T or IF (PLEASE don't really do that - wouldn't that be a nightmare...). There are also a million and one sites that you could go on other than TB. You wanted to be on TTGP because you wanted this very thing to happen. You crave attention. If you didn't want this to happen, you wouldn't have started telling people "one by one". You would have kept that shit under lock and key.
Second of all, you have revictimized @snakefisherbub in your post AGAIN. If you truly were sorry, you would have just said, I'm sorry. Not rehashed the whole shitty thing all over again. Not nice.
Started TTC 2/2009 Started fertility treatments 11/2010 Ovarian dysfunction, LPD, male factor 6 failed medicated IUI's Pregnant 5/2011 - Miscarriage at 6 weeks due to triploidy Decided to adopt - 6/2012 SURPRISE! Pregnant without intervention - 7/2012 Sweet Baby James Born 3/2013 Decided to be "One and Done"
....OR NOT. Pregnant 12/2018 despite birth control pills Here we go again... Due 8/26/19!
This while thing makes me really mad, sad, and completely creeped out. I'm a very trusting person and probably give out too much personal info on the web. I have met some wonderful ladies IRL from here, but this makes me uneasy about meeting anyone else.
On a side note, my damn computer broke yesterday so I've been mobile bumping. Keeping up with everything and trying to figure out what's going on is nearly impossible on my phone. I'm buying a new computer today. Sorry DH!
TB drama strikes again. We had such crazy crap happen on my BMB, from a mom lying about the death of her baby (and entire pregnancy, obv) to real life stalking, that nothing on here surprises me anymore.
@MAdams728 and I are on the same BMB. It was crazy, to the point where people were sending money to "help" her. I know I'm newer to this particular board but I am so sorry for all of the stress this has caused. I hope she chooses to get some help.
If she was really just some poor innocent girl who's just been trying to fit in, she wouldn't keep coming back and starting trouble. Last week's shit storm (and the attempts to keep it going) prove that she lives for the drama, and she loves stirring it up and pitting people against each other.
This. Actually participating in the community wasn't exciting enough. It was boring and she needed the attention. Lots and lots of attention. And she got it. And it wasn't even enough to be a dick and start drama on the boards this time. She needed to try to manipulate people offline and "collect" them, if that makes sense. Have "friends" who would be her secret keepers and defend her.
Even at the beginning of this thread, she had people thanking her for coming clean, she must have been tickled. Thank you? No, fuck you. You ARE a bat shit crazy person and you must be enjoying this immensely. Or are completely delusional an believe all your innocence and justifications. Now on to the next board/community to fuck with.
I'm sure everybody cares what I think about this but I feel the need to say some things.
For those who haven't been around for all of Lovely's antics beginning with the Mrs.W screen name, this is same shit different day. I don't believe anything she's written in this post. But if it is true then, frankly, all it shows is that she truly doesn't get it. Unless she's been IP banned again I fully believe that she'll be back if she hasn't already created another SN.
And to anyone who feels compelled to be nice to her or help her reach out to people, just fucking stop! She has clearly shown time and again that she's BSC.
Also, to whoever is the AE that outed her, my hat goes off to you. You're the true Bumperhero here.
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38 Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
@rockopera, I think the "thank you's" were more for giving us an answer without a longer delay more than anything else. Yeah, she did it for her own AW gain, but at least we knew then instead of a few days later or however it worked out.
I applaud the work that went into the callout, even though it most likely should have been done through mods instead of in the thread last night. It also sounds like the people that knew that JR was Lovely ahead of time took proper measures to let moderators know so they could do their job properly.
Married 9-1-12 (On Depo until 4-12) Me- 33, DH- 36
NTNP starting 9-12, Actively TTC since 9-13
My DX- Hypothyroidism. Prescribed Synthroid
DH's DX- Severe MFI- first SA results: 1.3 mill (1.2 mill motile), 21.6% motility, 2% morphology
Blood test revealed low testosterone so DH was prescribed Clomid. Repeat blood test and SA in November.
So who knew she was Lovely, and didn't say anything ?? Because to me, that is a dick thing to do..
It shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Who was her bump BFF as jr? My bet is with that person.
I might be lost, but I actually don't know the answer to your clue there Scraps. I didn't notice that she had a particular bump BFF as Jr.
Hmm idk then. I never paid attention to her so I am no help.
Just looking at who posted on her wall all the time was when I got suspicious.
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
Wow. I'm disappointed on multiple levels. Mostly I'm just disappointed that this was revealed by icecream. I'm still WTFing over that.
Way to ruin icecream forever.
... If only someone could have prevented this shit. 8-|
Son: Jackson, 11/02/06, stillborn due to PPROM and IUGR. Over the next ten years we had 9 miscarriages from 8-14 weeks. On May 18, 2016 my daughter, Ridley, was born. We're OADNBC.
Wow... I am still trying to piece this together because I wasn't here apparently for her antics, but wow... Someone clearly didn't get enough hugs as a kid.
Me: 33 DH: 31 DD: 10 (born August 2004) Married 03/01/14 TTC#2 BFP: 05/17/2014 EDD: 1/25/15 MMC: 06/30/2014
Re: Who ever thought ice cream would be a tell all? #coldstoneftw
Me: 28 H: 28 DS: 4
Trinitrotoluene: "My ears have been deflowered ....my mouth just hasn't been!"
I just don't get that if someone was coming back here after a total train wreck (and I was on the board, but not in chat for the Lovely/Librarian business) that they would start trying to get to know people IRL and get involved in all of that. Because when people start knowing you IRL, it's a lot harder to keep that shit under wraps. If you wanted support through your IF journey, it's really easy to get that support on the board. Maybe in anonymous chat if you felt the need. But once why on earth if you were trying to come back from something like that would you not just bury it. Or find another board.
It's times like this (and really, most all of the time) that I'm okay being a second or third string reg. I'm not saying that in a self-deprecating way, it's true and it's fine. I've never felt like I had to be something I wasn't to be here. Granted, there are a few people on the boards who know my real first name from PMs. And there are a very few (one's a reg here) who I was on another board with that know a fair amount about my life. And if there was a Southeast or Texas GTG, I'd probably go if I was invited. But, right now, I'm pretty happy with my level here. Noticeable, accepted as a part of the team, able to give and get advice, but not a 'cool kid'. I've been here in varying degrees for almost 18 months (the first 6ish were an occasionally participating lurker, I remember when Darcy first intro-ed), but I'm happy on the board.
That's not to say I don't really love this board. There are women on here that I would totally be friends with IRL, and (wine is making me super emotional) this board has been a total godsend to me over the past year. I have received a massive amount of support and love and I do truly feel cared about by my internet 'stranger' friends. And I feel all of this just by being on the board. This is not to say I'd never go RL with people (because I have nothing to lie about and haven't misrepresented myself on here), but it is to say that one can get all of that just by being on the board. So, to bring it back around, I don't understand the need to go off-board if you had something to hide in the first place.
Sorry for the wall, I have lots of feels and lots of wine.
Me-31, H-27
**Loss 1-Cycle 7(June 2013) at 5w6d-CP**Loss 2-Cycle 11(October 2013) at 5w4d-CP**
**Loss 3-Cycle 14 (January-February 2014)-M/C dx 2/10, EP dx 2/24, MTX 2/25**
Beta Hell--hCG finally down to 0 - 6/20/14
SA normal. Genetic testing normal. Hormonal testing normal.
HSG 6/30/14 - found blocked left tube and 2 'bubbles' on uterine wall.
Hysteroscopy/Lap--8/4/14 - Tubes unblocked. Polyps removed from uterine wall. Septum removed.
9/30/14--Off the bench! Unmedicated TI through December 2014
BFP 12/14/14!!! Beta #1, 12/16: 990 Beta #2, 12/18: Over 2000! Beta #3, 12/22: over 8000!
U/S #1, 12/23: gestational sac, possible heartbeat
U/S #2, 12/30: HEARTBEAT! 128bpm, measuring right on at 7w EDD: 8/19/2015
U/S #3, 1/9: BPM in the 180s, IT'S HAPPENING!!!
But also, totally understandable.
Formerly Aaren91011
At the end of the day, everything someone has told you about themselves could be a downright lie and how would you know? How would you feel safe enough to be sharing personal information back and forth? Even with Facebook, friending someone allows them access to your pictures, your friends, your family. It's a pretty steep risk in my opinion.
I love this board and all the information and humor here. It's great to learn from and support each other. But instead of moving these relationships to Facebook or getting to a point where I share personal information, I'd rather just keep posting gifs and love-titting things and sharing things that are safe enough to be on a public forum... But maybe I'm just paranoid. Especially after seeing all this unfold.
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38
Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
TTC since March 2014
BFP#1 09/25/2014 EDD 6/4/2015
Rainbow Baby! BFP 02/20/2018 EDD 11/01/2018
BFP 10/31/2017 EDD 07/09/2018 Miscarriage 11/28/2017
DD # 1: BFP 5/22/2014 EDD 1/30/2015 Born 02/06/2015
I read BOTH the threads. This is some seriously scary shit! So sorry you guys are going through this.
Seriously she's obviously got some kind of mental sickness to constantly keep coming back and making up lies. She needs some serious help.
If she wanted to just come for support because of IF she would have just gone there introduced herself and stayed. Instead she came here and got all involved and pretended to be someone else. She's got a sickness.
Let me just say we have some awesome investigators here to figure all this out. I'm still trying to put it all together.
Rainbow Baby! BFP 02/20/2018 EDD 11/01/2018
BFP 10/31/2017 EDD 07/09/2018 Miscarriage 11/28/2017
DD # 1: BFP 5/22/2014 EDD 1/30/2015 Born 02/06/2015
Started fertility treatments 11/2010
Ovarian dysfunction, LPD, male factor
6 failed medicated IUI's
Pregnant 5/2011 - Miscarriage at 6 weeks due to triploidy
Decided to adopt - 6/2012
SURPRISE! Pregnant without intervention - 7/2012
Sweet Baby James Born 3/2013
Decided to be "One and Done"
....OR NOT.
Pregnant 12/2018 despite birth control pills
Here we go again...
Due 8/26/19!
Rainbow Baby! BFP 02/20/2018 EDD 11/01/2018
BFP 10/31/2017 EDD 07/09/2018 Miscarriage 11/28/2017
DD # 1: BFP 5/22/2014 EDD 1/30/2015 Born 02/06/2015
DS born Oct. '11
TTC #2 with PCOS since Nov. '13
Dx: Low Progesterone (3.3) on 8/12/14
Waiting for RE appointment on 10/28/14
Surprise BFP on cycle 12 -- 10/19/14!
EDD July 1, 2015
BFP 6/15/14 EDD: 2/24/15
On a side note, my damn computer broke yesterday so I've been mobile bumping. Keeping up with everything and trying to figure out what's going on is nearly impossible on my phone. I'm buying a new computer today. Sorry DH!
People have issues, yo.
Even at the beginning of this thread, she had people thanking her for coming clean, she must have been tickled. Thank you? No, fuck you. You ARE a bat shit crazy person and you must be enjoying this immensely. Or are completely delusional an believe all your innocence and justifications. Now on to the next board/community to fuck with.
I'm sure everybody cares what I think about this but I feel the need to say some things.
For those who haven't been around for all of Lovely's antics beginning with the Mrs.W screen name, this is same shit different day. I don't believe anything she's written in this post. But if it is true then, frankly, all it shows is that she truly doesn't get it. Unless she's been IP banned again I fully believe that she'll be back if she hasn't already created another SN.
And to anyone who feels compelled to be nice to her or help her reach out to people, just fucking stop! She has clearly shown time and again that she's BSC.
Also, to whoever is the AE that outed her, my hat goes off to you. You're the true Bumperhero here.
TTC since August 2011, Me = 40, DH = 38
Unexplained IF. Tried Clomid for 3 cycles. All BFNs. BFP 1/6/13. Chemical pregnancy.
Moving on to IVF#1. ER 11/26/13, 16 eggs retreived, 12 mature and all fertilized. 2 blasts transferred on 12/1. All other embies arrested so nothing left to freeze. Beta 12/10 = BFN. IVF #2 March 2014. BFP!!! TEAM BLUE!!!
Just looking at who posted on her wall all the time was when I got suspicious.
... If only someone could have prevented this shit. 8-|
DD: 10 (born August 2004)
Married 03/01/14
TTC#2
BFP: 05/17/2014 EDD: 1/25/15 MMC: 06/30/2014