FFFC

PrimRoseMama

mystererae said:

If you really believed someone had an ED why would you mock and attack them? If you thought someone had anorexia and they said "I ate nothing but an egg today" would you really show them a picture of cake and ask them to stop fat shaming you? "Food" for thought heehee

No...

But as the folks defending the Health Check in protested multiple times-- they are fine. They just have health/fitness/nutrition as a high priority in their life & want support. If this is true than some ribbing about cake & asking that you not fat-shame should be NBD, right?

Unless there is a problem? If there isn't an ED issue then everyone should be able to discuss their food choices, right?

PrimRoseMama

Also, @mystererae‌ , I just want to say directly-- I applaud the focus on health. I think it's great. Pick an eating style & food awareness that works for you. Get on with your health-conscious self.

However, please realize that it's the way you talk about other people's good choices that can rub folks the wrong way.

Example:
"I choose not to eat that much sugar or bacon because of the health benefits of it. Less sugar & fat/nitrates make me feel better."

Vs.

"Omg processed sugar is the devil! Muffins are the same as cupcakes! Bacon causes cancer! Nitrates!"

Discussing is different than arm flailing.

lancomechica

We need to STOP it with the food shit. I realize its not productive and hurtful to both sides. I was particularly hurt by a comment yesterday and retaliated with equal bitchyness.
Can we talk about baby stuff?

heatherbrownm

lizabethann06 said:

hplusb said:

mystererae said:

If you really believed someone had an ED why would you mock and attack them? If you thought someone had anorexia and they said "I ate nothing but an egg today" would you really show them a picture of cake and ask them to stop fat shaming you? "Food" for thought heehee

Yes! Thank you! This is exactly why all this bothers me SO much. Thank you for putting it into words.

I find it strange that you guys think I'm showing you specifically a picture of cake. The cake was something I was eating that I posted because 1) it's delicious 2) there are others on the board who like it 3) it's something random and the spam threads are places to post the random. There have been many pieces of chocolate cake posted on this sight far before any of this health debate came up.

I like you @lizabethann06‌, I really do. I just want to say that first.

I definitely don't think a picture of cake is offensive and would not personally be a trigger for me. Just like talk about health and fitness isn't a trigger for me. My original comment about cake being more of a trigger than a fitness thread is exactly what it is. For me, cake would be more of a trigger than a fitness thread. Not that it necessarily IS a trigger.

I think the point is being missed here. No one is making fun of people for eating cake and dissing vegetables. People are however flaming people who talk about the healthy things that they eat. It just makes no sense to me. Why the fuck does everyone care so damn much about what everyone else is eating? Why does it automatically turn into fat shaming if someone says that they had broccoli instead of a cupcake? That isn't the intent.

No one is saying that you (general you) are a shitty person for liking cake. I like cake. I eat cake. It's the damn nitpicking that is going on about all of it!! We are all grown ass women, so why are we acting like children?

This whole thing is so ridiculous.

lancomechica

Mamasighs said:

lancomechica said:

We need to STOP it with the food shit. I realize its not productive and hurtful to both sides. I was particularly hurt by a comment yesterday and retaliated with equal bitchyness.
Can we talk about baby stuff?

I just gave my baby a bottle of non organic white cows milk.  It was full of rgh.

Flame me!  Please!


Lol!!!

PrimRoseMama

mystererae said:

Obviously someone with an ED might have some denial. So if you thought a group of people meeting weekly at your church or whatever might have a few people with anorexic behavior you'd stand in the back and tease them?

Eta: I'm not trying to argue. I'm genuinely surprised at the actions of people I know to be empathetic.

No. I would not. Again, the jokes were meant to lighten the mood after multiple reassurances from many of the health check-in posters that they are fine. If any of them confessed to having problems with food I imagine it would be different.

So, is there an ED issue or not? If you are fine then you are fine. If you aren't & need help then admit it & get help. Seriously, we can be aware but we can't mind read.

flkong

@Dccornel‌ IDK what you're talking about. Both sides make good points, my only thing is the damn passive aggressiveness...it irks to no end. Liz I'm not sure if you're aware of it or if you try to be non confrontational but you do it often.

PrimRoseMama

@hplusb‌ :"I think the point is being missed here. No one is making fun of people for eating cake and dissing vegetables. People are however flaming people who talk about the healthy things that they eat. It just makes no sense to me. Why the fuck does everyone care so damn much about what everyone else is eating? Why does it automatically turn into fat shaming if someone says that they had broccoli instead of a cupcake? That isn't the intent."

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To clarify, I think the issue is not with stating that someone chooses broc
over something else. Simply that the shaming associated with something like, "I had broc tonight & not that harbinger of death cupcake full of evil processed sugar."

Or...

"I had an egg white omelette vs. those cancer strips of bacon!! I feel so happy!"

**these are exaggerations, but some comments have been close.

No one is flaming someone who eats well, but the language of "anything I choose not to eat will make me fat. Fat is death!" Type language. It's the tone of the posts vs. what the posters are professing to eat. Does that make sense?

Also, WTF about putting soap on your food?! JFC just make smaller portions if that is the case?!

PrimRoseMama

lizabethann06 said:

PrimRoseMama said:

mystererae said:

Obviously someone with an ED might have some denial. So if you thought a group of people meeting weekly at your church or whatever might have a few people with anorexic behavior you'd stand in the back and tease them?

Eta: I'm not trying to argue. I'm genuinely surprised at the actions of people I know to be empathetic.

No. I would not. Again, the jokes were meant to lighten the mood after multiple reassurances from many of the health check-in posters that they are fine. If any of them confessed to having problems with food I imagine it would be different.

So, is there an ED issue or not? If you are fine then you are fine. If you aren't & need help then admit it & get help. Seriously, we can be aware but we can't mind read.

Yes. Yes and yes. Love you Prim.

Heeeeeeeey gurl :x

sparkymcgeee

Every damn day. For the love of all that is holy just everyone shut up. Red X.

PrimRoseMama

mystererae said:

No problem here. Just saying that theoretically if I did have a problem I'd be more receptive to a pm.

That's cool. I see where you are coming from there.

lancomechica

Also insinuating others are not WORKING as hard as you lose weight and be healthy is not really nice.

And with that I'm done and will be moving to PMs to address the other issues.
Ttfn.

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mainerocks said:

LO's FFFC:  ate first piece of cat food today! YUM!

:-&

I fished a piece of dog food out of DS's mouth earlier this week.  Sadly it's not the grossest thing he's eaten so far.   

PrimRoseMama

Yes, this is a food confession. It's an MIL confession too. It's topical.

FFFC: I ate coffee cake & delicious cancer strips of bacon with coffee while I read this. There was an egg white omelette with veggies too though. So it was only half-way damning me to unhealthy food hell.

DS had some coffee cake too & DD decided it was a pop tart even after I offered her the scramble & wheat bread toast. My MIL would explode.

More of a confession? I feel like DD's rebellion is kind of a middle finger against all of MIL's health food harping.

I mean, I agree that I try to feed the kids healthy-- but I don't freak & force it. They won't die if they eat the occasional pop tart. They eat healthy 95% of the time.

So when MIL is trying to screech that we should "make DD eat healthy! She will be fat if she eats that! How could you?! You are making them fat!! Your children will suffer :::insert Asian guilt rant here:::" I nod & smile.

Secretly I like it when Abby gives her shit about trying to force food. It's that rebellious streak in me & I can't be too mad when she defies me in favor of Mac n cheese.

Last confession? I fully admit that my tendency to mock those that openly & fervently espouse clean eating is tied to my wish to rebel against my MIL's constant "be healthy!" Nagging. I shouldn't do it because it works for them. To be clear, NONE of the Health check ppl is even on the same planet as my MIL. I am not saying that.

It's just the negative playback about food that reminds me of her constant bitching about how all of our problems could be solved if we just ate better.

You can flame me.

flkong

lizabethann06 said:

@Dccornel‌ IDK what you're talking about.

Both sides make good points, my only thing is the damn passive aggressiveness...it irks to no end. Liz I'm not sure if you're aware of it or if you try to be non confrontational but you do it often.

Just call me on it when it happens and I will explain what I meant or own it

Will do.
See...we can be adults.

PrimRoseMama

lancomechica said:

Also insinuating others are not WORKING as hard as you lose weight and be healthy is not really nice.

God, thank you.

Carrie3102

 

ncchnat said:

lizabethann06 said:

Aw, the bingo cards were to lighten the mood. Have we lost our sense of humor?

When it comes across as passive aggressive bullshit, then yes. Sorry for not laughing.

JFC people it was a joke, you see what I'm talking about... christ we can't even laugh at all the "hot topic" issues, it's not like she exlcuded any and only pointed out the "recent" one, they were all on there and it was a JOKE. 

Not everything is a jab... FFS... I saw my hot button topic on the bingo board... 2 of them actually, and I didn't find it to be passive agressive at all... FUCK! -- This eludes directly to my u/o yesterday... the butthurt runs deep around here... CTFD.

Perspective people, fucking perspective.

PrimRoseMama

@Carrie3102‌ : agree. Also, there is another poster with similar numbers. Tagging you was frustrating & I want to delete that other username. How dare they frustrate me! :P

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My FFFC has everything to do with babies!  I'm shelfishly very happy my brother moved his wedding date up.  His later date was messing with my plans for TTC. 

PrimRoseMama

Also: this a joke but only half way...

A fucking vegan bran muffin with carrots is NOT even in the same zip code as a cupcake without frosting. Just setting that straight. :P

Lelo2006

I never thought cake & muffins could cause a civil war...turns out, I was wrong.

I am a true bacon warrior... Battle!

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TheLittleRedM

Soooo much O.O

Anyway....I had an FFFC last night but now I don't remember it.

So...I was just going to eat my half box of Gobstoppers for breakfast but then my DH said I needed to make real food. Lame.

On an unrelated food note, a tick the size of a penny fell off one of my dogs yesterday. After soaking it in a bath of rubbing alcohol to kill it, I poked it until enough icky blood came out that it deflated. They have much tougher skins than I expected. But I think I knew that already and just forgot.

Carrie3102

Everything here is evil, everything is a hot button topic, anything someone says is taken to be a jab at someone else, and no one has a sense of humor anymore.  It's sad...

Hey just so you all know, I don't do passive aggressive bullshit, if I need to call someone out, I will...

PrimRoseMama

Lelo2006 said:

I never thought cake & muffins could cause a civil war...turns out, I was wrong.

I am a true bacon warrior... Battle!

@Lelo2006‌


Also, a WTF:

lancomechica

PrimRoseMama said:

Lelo2006 said:

I never thought cake & muffins could cause a civil war...turns out, I was wrong.

I am a true bacon warrior... Battle!

@Lelo2006‌


Also, a WTF:

Rick Astley is on here!! This is the greatest gif ever!

sdtchica13

lizabethann06 said:

My FFFC has everything to do with babies!  I'm shelfishly very happy my brother moved his wedding date up.  His later date was messing with my plans for TTC. 

I was a bridesmaid in a wedding when 8 months pregnant with Jack. The dresses were black and white. I looked like a cross between Shamu and a penguin.

Feel your pain @lizabethann06...I was 35 weeks pregnant with Gavin at my sister's wedding last June...I was a BEAST!

PrimRoseMama

Another FFFC: I contemplated strapping a pillow to DS's back Turtle-style. He's trying to pull up to stand, but isn't steady enough to accomplish it without toppling. He gets pissed if I try to help him. Kid, you are going to break your head. Shut it down. :P

sdtchica13

As for the rest of this thread...I just can't. I had no idea this shit had gotten so out of control, but WTF guys? Everyone needs to grab a glass of wine and a fucking Valium or two and relax! We all have so much more pressing matters to deal with to be wasting our time getting into a pissing contest over who's dick is the biggest, christ!

valstulas

@ncchnat‌ Hugs, dude. I'm so sorry about the PMs. Especially from people you considered friends. You must feel so hurt and betrayed.

@Stina2012‌ He goes to weekly therapy. He also has a psychiatrist, a case manager, meds, and a behavior plan for home and school. He has all the rage. I wish he was 2 again so I could just rock him and kiss him and let him rage and he would find comfort knowing that I love him.

valstulas

@fklang‌ I'm sorry. It's such an awful word that he used. I'm so ashamed and embarrassed that he could even say such a thing. I hope I didn't hurt you by posting about it and I really hope that no ever says such an ugly thing to your precious little ones.

Clyde013

My fffc: I still don't get the big deal about pouring soap or throwing out some cake so that you don't eat more of it. I eat cake or something else every so often but I try not to eat it daily. Sometimes I take what I don't eat and put it in the freezer for next time. Other times I throw it out bc I don't want to eat it every day. I don't see why that is such a big deal?

Similarly I love broccoli but it makes me gassy. There are times I have it for dinner and then my stomach hurts so I throw the rest away. Other times I throw it in the freezer and use it some other time.

[Deleted User]

Just catching up. My phone won't let me love anything but I'm pretty sure you all know which posts I would've loved.

I'm over this topic.

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Clyde013

Oh and @valstulas‌ hugs! I think it's so out of line to get police involved. I mean come on. Kids can say some messed up things and that needs to be addressed for sure. But not by police!!

Carrie3102

llmg0715 said:

Clyde013 said:

My fffc: I still don't get the big deal about pouring soap or throwing out some cake so that you don't eat more of it. I eat cake or something else every so often but I try not to eat it daily. Sometimes I take what I don't eat and put it in the freezer for next time. Other times I throw it out bc I don't want to eat it every day. I don't see why that is such a big deal? Similarly I love broccoli but it makes me gassy. There are times I have it for dinner and then my stomach hurts so I throw the rest away. Other times I throw it in the freezer and use it some other time.

I'm totally with you except for the "Pouring Soap". Just don't understand this at all. Just throw it out. 

Some people may not have the will power to stay out of it... so rather than binge on it and eat all the nutella in one sitting they rid themselves of it.  I used to do something similar by pouring the rest of my drink over what I was eating when I was full so I wouldn't continue to pick at it... only if it was something I knew I'd overeat because I thought it was SO delicious. 

It's really NBD.

Carrie3102

ncchnat said:

llmg0715 said:

Clyde013 said:

My fffc: I still don't get the big deal about pouring soap or throwing out some cake so that you don't eat more of it. I eat cake or something else every so often but I try not to eat it daily. Sometimes I take what I don't eat and put it in the freezer for next time. Other times I throw it out bc I don't want to eat it every day. I don't see why that is such a big deal? Similarly I love broccoli but it makes me gassy. There are times I have it for dinner and then my stomach hurts so I throw the rest away. Other times I throw it in the freezer and use it some other time.

I'm totally with you except for the "Pouring Soap". Just don't understand this at all. Just throw it out. 

The thing is, though, that if you don't have the will power/have an eating disorder***, it sometimes takes destroying the food to keep yourself from eating it. It's not as simple as just throwing it out. This is something I've done in the past. I had to do it to keep myself from binging/digging something out of the trash to eat it. I'm not proud of it and I'm in no way saying it's healthy, but it's definitely not simple.

***I am in no way implying that the person on this board who admitted to doing this has an eating disorder.

Edit: Forgot a word or two.

@ncchant great minds

Carrie3102

@Ncchnat damn bump won't let me edit and I fat fingered it.

TheLittleRedM

ncchnat said:

  

llmg0715 said:

TheLittleRedM said:

On an unrelated food note, a tick the size of a penny fell off one of my dogs yesterday. After soaking it in a bath of rubbing alcohol to kill it, I poked it until enough icky blood came out that it deflated. They have much tougher skins than I expected. But I think I knew that already and just forgot.

Quote fail 

Why did you do this?? 

Because she's weird? :P 

Actually, there is an odd sort of gross satisfaction from doing it. There may be another reason that has an actual purpose, but we always did it growing up just to see the nastiness.

@llmg0715 Yep. This. Idk. My parents let us do whatever we wanted with bugs after we killed them. I think it was their way of letting us explore them so they weren't so creepy and weird. It just sort of stuck when I'm curious about things, now. I totally admit it's weird. And I swear I don't do it all the time or even very often Lol

ETA: It was a Lone Star Tick and they do not transmit Lyme disease. And Lyme is usually transferred during summer months, not in the "off" season, so to speak So I had no worries about whether or not my dog could be sick.

Pink724

mainerocks said:

valstulas said:

@ncchnat‌ Hugs, dude. I'm so sorry about the PMs. Especially from people you considered friends. You must feel so hurt and betrayed. @Stina2012‌ He goes to weekly therapy. He also has a psychiatrist, a case manager, meds, and a behavior plan for home and school. He has all the rage. I wish he was 2 again so I could just rock him and kiss him and let him rage and he would find comfort knowing that I love him.

I loved that because I wanted to hug you.  You're a good mom and I'm willing to bet that the things you do are the 9 year old version of the bolded.

All of this.