Hi lovely ep ladies! I am bf but my lo has a cows milk protein allergy and our ped has suggested we try nutrimigen formula exclusively for 2 weeks to see if his issues are breast milk related or something else. I'm open to trying and will pump in the meantime so I don't lose my supply. Since you are the resident pumping experts, any advice would be appreciated... I need pointers on how to do this!
@thejewelster you should pump every time LO eats to keep your supply up. Having a hands free bra is key. The simple wishes bra is good and you can get 50% off their website by entering SIMPLE50. They have one that doubles as a nursing bra but if you don't want to invest in a bra since you might not be doing this long term, you can just cut slits in an old sports bra and use that instead. You might want to lube up your nipples with olive or coconut oil if they are bothered by the friction. And my last tip is that you don't have to wash your pump parts every time you pump if you store them in the fridge. I have a tupperware I throw them in and then wash them in the dishwasher ever night.
I'm trying to drop my MOTN pump, as DS is sleeping longer stretches and with (usually) only one MOTN feeding and DH and I alternating, may eventually see a good night's sleep. It is just so difficult! My body wakes me up and if I ignore it, I'm in pain and usually end up waking up in a puddle an hour or two later. Any advice?
I tried pumping for only 10mins the other night (instead of my normal 20mins) just to take the edge off, but even after getting 4.5oz in 10mins my chest still felt sore and tender. :-/
I'm trying to drop my MOTN pump, as DS is sleeping longer stretches and with (usually) only one MOTN feeding and DH and I alternating, may eventually see a good night's sleep. It is just so difficult! My body wakes me up and if I ignore it, I'm in pain and usually end up waking up in a puddle an hour or two later. Any advice?
I tried pumping for only 10mins the other night (instead of my normal 20mins) just to take the edge off, but even after getting 4.5oz in 10mins my chest still felt sore and tender. :-/
I would just gradually lessen the time you pumped MOTN until you can drop. 15 minutes for a few nights, then 10, etc...
@jewelster Stool can be tested for blood which even when invisible traces are usually present with a protein allergy. I would ask for this test before switching to formula. My LO hated nutramigen, and there are ways to confirm an allergy. Have you already cut out dairy?
@selina1113 Cmpa is already confirmed and I have been off dairy (and soy, egg & peanuts) for 2 months. He's made huge gains but weight gain is still slow. He still has watery stools but colour is norm. He may be sensitive to wheat or corn, or almonds, etc. The formula is a trial to confirm additional food sensitivities. We could do a scope to take a look but that's super invasive. I'm currently on a elimination diet - no wheat, gluten, shellfish, beef (cmpa?), corn, dairy, soy and egg. Fun, right?! He's also teething so my poor wee dude is having a rough time
So I just switched from nursing to EPing. I feel like we don't have enough bottle for me to pump into and to feed DD without washing like 5-6 every day. How many bottles to you have on hand as a EPer? (I didn't read through the entire thread so if this has been discussed before I am sorry!)
So I just switched from nursing to EPing. I feel like we don't have enough bottle for me to pump into and to feed DD without washing like 5-6 every day. How many bottles to you have on hand as a EPer? (I didn't read through the entire thread so if this has been discussed before I am sorry!)
I wash bottles twice a day I pour what I pump into one bottle or use the milk storage bags The storage bags attach to the pump so really you could get away with no bottles until he eats if you use them
I have about 10 bottles that I actually use . More that we tried but didn't like for one reason or another
If possible, I combine my bottles as well. I typically just rinse out the one that I don't combine into. I'm also trying to freeze daily instead of just leaving extras in the fridge. That has helped me to reduce the number of bottles that I need. I have about a dozen bottles that I use. I mostly use Medela to pump and feed, but any standard size (not wide) bottle is supposed to fit on your pump.
So I just switched from nursing to EPing. I feel like we don't have enough bottle for me to pump into and to feed DD without washing like 5-6 every day. How many bottles to you have on hand as a EPer? (I didn't read through the entire thread so if this has been discussed before I am sorry!)
I use 2 bottles to pump into. I rinse and put in the fridge between pumps. I Store all of my milk in half gallon milk jugs and we just pour in to bottles to feed her as needed.
Forgive me if you've heard all of this before but I EBF until returning to work and I've decided to join to EP crowd. While I miss the extra time and closeness with LO while BFing, EP works better for my family as a whole (chasing 2 older DSs that are extremely busy and a DH who is hardly ever home). I've tried to look through the past posts but don't have time to look through them all. I'm wondering what is a normal amount of BM that you should get while EPing? I pump first thing in the morning (4AM) and normally get 7-9oz and then get 3-4 oz throughout the rest of the day. I pump approximately every 2 hours, sometimes it stretches to 3 at work. My baby consumes 4-5oz in a feeding but always acts like he could eat more. He was 13lbs at his 2 mo check up in June. I've been trying to read and talk to other moms about what is normal but a lot of my friends didn't BF. Any advice is greatly appreciated as always! So thankful I have A14 as a resource to use!
@EnFuego12, I don't think there is a "normal," unfortunately. Are you drinking water like it's your job? I can get a couple extra oz a pump if it is a good water day. I pump around 10 oz/3 hr session (twins) and about 14oz at my 2am pump. Water is key!!! Soon you will be introducing foods as LOs appetite increases, don't forget that!
@MrsZ0811 I use 4 bottles and wash every time. I pump into my pumping bottles and pour into smaller bottles (and bag the extra) and wash the previous bottles. It is a lot of washing but I like being done with it instead of having them pile up.
@thejewelster, what the heck CAN you eat? Rice, beans and chicken??
Hey ladies! I EBF but pump 1-2 times a day (to build a stash and so sh can give a bottle) and I'll be pumping more when I go back to work in a couple weeks.
My question - how often do you replace the white membranes? I feel like I don't currently pump enough to know if my output is low, if that makes sense.
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@EnFuego12 the "normal" amount is just to make as much as you LO eats. 25-30 oz is average I believe. Your breast milk will change as he grows to fill their needs so volume doesn't increase like it would with formula.
@Dixon813 I replace the membranes once a month but I truely EP. You also have the option of replacing those yellow peices and white membranes with duckbills. Some people have better output with the duckbills (some have worse). I prefer them just because they are easier to clean. You can get 5 duckbills on Amazon for $8.
@EnFuego12 I typically pump one oz per breast per hour. So if I pump every three hours, I generally get 3 oz per side or 6 oz total. During a growth spurt, this is exactly what DD2 eats. Typically, I make enough to freeze a little each day. As with others, I need to make sure to drink and eat enough. My pumps aren't always evenly spaced throughout the day, but I always get my total number of pumps in 24 hours (currently 7 ppd).
Question- my manual pump (lansinoh$ seems to be more efficient than my electric (evenflo); are manual ones generally more efficient or do I need a new electric? I went w/ a less expensive pump as my insurance only covers manual pumps (super lame!)
@EnFuego12 When I was more on top of my pumping schedule, on days that I would EP I would sometimes get as much as 40 ounces per day. For the past month and a half though I've been STTN and had a lot of family events and things so my supply has dropped to more like 30 oz. per day. I think that's pretty average for someone who exclusively pumps or nurses and it's roughly in line with what he eats. When I was producing 40 oz. per day he was not eating everything I pumped.
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@MrsZ0811@spano41@saraloaks How much less (ounces) are you pumping now compared to when you were pumping more frequently? or are you pretty close to your maximum ounces? I'm at 6ppd and around 45-48opd. DD2 eats 34ish opd. I'm going back to work next week and am a little nervous about losing ounces.
@poru I'm also going back to work next week, but I'm quite jealous of you having an hour to pump! I think it's better to pump more frequently and for shorter intervals. If I had 15 minutes, I would press the letdown button at 6 minutes and 12 minutes (in addition to when you turn your pump on).... or 5 minutes and 10 minutes.
@poru I'm also going back to work next week, but I'm quite jealous of you having an hour to pump! I think it's better to pump more frequently and for shorter intervals. If I had 15 minutes, I would press the letdown button at 6 minutes and 12 minutes (in addition to when you turn your pump on).... or 5 minutes and 10 minutes.
I came on this thread to ask a question and learned something completely new! I use the Medela PISA pump and pump 1x/day to build a freezer stash; otherwise, I breastfeed DS. I had NO IDEA about the let down button on the pump!! I saw the button there but didn't know what it was for and never took the time to look it up. I'll have to try it out to see how it works for me.
Ok, here is the question I have...I want to order a spare set of pumping parts for work but need the 27mm breast shield. I see that Medela only sells the accessory kit (for $25) with the 24 mm shields that are attached to the connector. Can anyone tell me the best place to buy spare parts so I can get the 27 mm shields? If I buy them separately, I will be paying about $34 for the same parts (the breast shield size being the only difference). Why in the world do they do this? Also, does anyone use pumpin' pals? What do you think? If anyone can help I would really appreciate it!
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@lorimc12 I didn't use the letdown button at all with DD1. It's my best friend this time around with DD2! No experience with pumpin pals. It looks like at Target the shield is $13.76 and the connector is $8.90. I haven't done the math, but also maybe using coupons at BRU or BBB would make it more reasonable.
@poru I'm also going back to work next week, but I'm quite jealous of you having an hour to pump! I think it's better to pump more frequently and for shorter intervals. If I had 15 minutes, I would press the letdown button at 6 minutes and 12 minutes (in addition to when you turn your pump on).... or 5 minutes and 10 minutes.
I came on this thread to ask a question and learned something completely new! I use the Medela PISA pump and pump 1x/day to build a freezer stash; otherwise, I breastfeed DS. I had NO IDEA about the let down button on the pump!! I saw the button there but didn't know what it was for and never took the time to look it up. I'll have to try it out to see how it works for me.
Ok, here is the question I have...I want to order a spare set of pumping parts for work but need the 27mm breast shield. I see that Medela only sells the accessory kit (for $25) with the 24 mm shields that are attached to the connector. Can anyone tell me the best place to buy spare parts so I can get the 27 mm shields? If I buy them separately, I will be paying about $34 for the same parts (the breast shield size being the only difference). Why in the world do they do this? Also, does anyone use pumpin' pals? What do you think? If anyone can help I would really appreciate it!
The lactina kit used to come with both flanges. But the tubes the the triangular sympany/lactina ends. It's about $54, so buying the flanges seperatly with a PISA kit would be cheaper than buying the lactina kit if you don't need/want the included hand pump.
@kkaew816 I think it is pretty standard for the manual pumps to be more effective, they are also a lot more work which is why people usually prefer the double electric pumps.
@poru If I were you I would do 3 pumps for 20 min. First of all, it's easier to do fewer pumps. Also, it's likely you will get the same total amount unless you are maxing out your breast's capacity. You will just have to try and see. If you are having any supply issues it is important to fully empty so you should pump past that second letdown.
@LBStewart I was making 50opd until I dropped to 3ppd and now I make 42opd. It is very common to lose ounces when dropping from 4-3opd. I Didn't lose any oz when dropping pumps before that and was actually still increasing before I dropped to 3ppd. You will probably be fine when you go back to work as long as you can at least keep 4ppd and do a MOTN pump.
@LoriMc12 I use pumpin pals and love them. They don't work for some people though so it's one of those things you have to try and see.
@MrsZ0811@spano41@saraloaks How much less (ounces) are you pumping now compared to when you were pumping more frequently? or are you pretty close to your maximum ounces? I'm at 6ppd and around 45-48opd. DD2 eats 34ish opd. I'm going back to work next week and am a little nervous about losing ounces.
I was getting 34oz when I was pumping 5 times a day. I also was only pumping 10-15 minutes per session. I did have a decrease which is why I increased to 20 minutes per pump. So far, it has kept up but I am tempted to decrease to 3ppd which I know will decrease my supply but I am sooo sick of pumping!
I am now down to 3 ppd and am getting around the same amount, about 30 opd. I pump around 7am and get between 11-13 oz. pump sometime between 1 and 3, get another 9-10 oz and then again around 8 or so (before bed) and get another 9-10. vacation got my timing messed up and down to 3 pumps but I'm getting the same volume. Sometimes The am pump gets moved earlier or is larger, I often wake up wet and in a puddle, its nasty!
Wanted to let all your EP ladies know that you rock!!!
I've been pumping the past 24 hours (Liam stayed with my parents and DH and I had some wonderful time for us) and I'm so thankful to have a pump that I can transport and pump in the car before/after dinner or church, but man, it's a lot of work and coordination! I don't think I could handle doing this on an every day basis. My hat's off to you ladies for all you're doing to give your LOs breastmilk!
~ Leah, Rachel and Gabriel were born on May 27, 2013 (23 weeks) ~
LO has been exclusively BF for the past few weeks now. Lately I've been feeling full after he eats so decided to get the pump back off and pump out after a feeding .. However for some strange reason I'm not responding to the pump ( never an issue before) any ideas as to why this might be. If I hand express I get streams of milk so I know I'm not empty ..
Has anyone's milk ever turned orange? I went to pick up LO from daycare today, and they handed me a bottle they had been warming. The top half inch of milk was ORANGE. They acted like no big deal, but I was a little freaked out. What would cause that?
Has anyone's milk ever turned orange? I went to pick up LO from daycare today, and they handed me a bottle they had been warming. The top half inch of milk was ORANGE. They acted like no big deal, but I was a little freaked out. What would cause that?
"Pink, Orange, Red, and Brown Milk
Breast milk can take on a red, pink or orange hue from foods that are naturally red, pink, and orange in color or foods that contain red, yellow and orange food dyes. Beets, orange soda, and red or orange fruit drinks can cause your milk to turn different shades of pink, red and orange.
If blood from inside your breasts leaks into your milk ducts, the milk may appear brown and rust-colored. This is called rusty pipe syndrome because the milk looks like dirty water from an old rusty pipe. Sometimes a little bit of blood from cracked nipples will get into your milk and create red or pink streaks.
A small amount of blood in the milk supply is not harmful to your baby. There is no need to stop breastfeeding. In most cases, the bleeding will go away on its own in a few days. If the issue has not resolved after a week, check with your doctor."
Thanks @katiegummow. I guess it was just really odd to me because only the top half inch of it was orange, not the whole bottle, which would have made more sense.
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I tried pumping for only 10mins the other night (instead of my normal 20mins) just to take the edge off, but even after getting 4.5oz in 10mins my chest still felt sore and tender. :-/
Stool can be tested for blood which even when invisible traces are usually present with a protein allergy. I would ask for this test before switching to formula. My LO hated nutramigen, and there are ways to confirm an allergy. Have you already cut out dairy?
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Cmpa is already confirmed and I have been off dairy (and soy, egg & peanuts) for 2 months. He's made huge gains but weight gain is still slow. He still has watery stools but colour is norm. He may be sensitive to wheat or corn, or almonds, etc. The formula is a trial to confirm additional food sensitivities. We could do a scope to take a look but that's super invasive.
I'm currently on a elimination diet - no wheat, gluten, shellfish, beef (cmpa?), corn, dairy, soy and egg. Fun, right?!
He's also teething so my poor wee dude is having a rough time
I pour what I pump into one bottle or use the milk storage bags
The storage bags attach to the pump so really you could get away with no bottles until he eats if you use them
I have about 10 bottles that I actually use . More that we tried but didn't like for one reason or another
Any advice is greatly appreciated as always! So thankful I have A14 as a resource to use!
@MrsZ0811 I use 4 bottles and wash every time. I pump into my pumping bottles and pour into smaller bottles (and bag the extra) and wash the previous bottles. It is a lot of washing but I like being done with it instead of having them pile up.
@thejewelster, what the heck CAN you eat? Rice, beans and chicken??
My question - how often do you replace the white membranes? I feel like I don't currently pump enough to know if my output is low, if that makes sense.
@Dixon813 I replace the membranes once a month but I truely EP. You also have the option of replacing those yellow peices and white membranes with duckbills. Some people have better output with the duckbills (some have worse). I prefer them just because they are easier to clean. You can get 5 duckbills on Amazon for $8.
How many minutes is your typical pumping session?
What's your average ounces per day?
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The lactina kit used to come with both flanges. But the tubes the the triangular sympany/lactina ends. It's about $54, so buying the flanges seperatly with a PISA kit would be cheaper than buying the lactina kit if you don't need/want the included hand pump.
@poru If I were you I would do 3 pumps for 20 min. First of all, it's easier to do fewer pumps. Also, it's likely you will get the same total amount unless you are maxing out your breast's capacity. You will just have to try and see. If you are having any supply issues it is important to fully empty so you should pump past that second letdown.
@LBStewart I was making 50opd until I dropped to 3ppd and now I make 42opd. It is very common to lose ounces when dropping from 4-3opd. I Didn't lose any oz when dropping pumps before that and was actually still increasing before I dropped to 3ppd. You will probably be fine when you go back to work as long as you can at least keep 4ppd and do a MOTN pump.
@LoriMc12 I use pumpin pals and love them. They don't work for some people though so it's one of those things you have to try and see.
I've been pumping the past 24 hours (Liam stayed with my parents and DH and I had some wonderful time for us) and I'm so thankful to have a pump that I can transport and pump in the car before/after dinner or church, but man, it's a lot of work and coordination! I don't think I could handle doing this on an every day basis. My hat's off to you ladies for all you're doing to give your LOs breastmilk!
Breast milk can take on a red, pink or orange hue from foods that are naturally red, pink, and orange in color or foods that contain red, yellow and orange food dyes. Beets, orange soda, and red or orange fruit drinks can cause your milk to turn different shades of pink, red and orange.
If blood from inside your breasts leaks into your milk ducts, the milk may appear brown and rust-colored. This is called rusty pipe syndrome because the milk looks like dirty water from an old rusty pipe. Sometimes a little bit of blood from cracked nipples will get into your milk and create red or pink streaks.
A small amount of blood in the milk supply is not harmful to your baby. There is no need to stop breastfeeding. In most cases, the bleeding will go away on its own in a few days. If the issue has not resolved after a week, check with your doctor."
-https://breastfeeding.about.com/od/whatsinbreastmilk/a/The-Colors-Of-Breast-Milk.htm