Baby Outing FAIL

utlawgirl

Mrbatesisinnocent said:

Can someone please tell me an emergency that the kid would have to be strapped into the car seat in an instant? I mean the only thing I could think of where you'd have to be crazy quick is a fire...and you're definitely not wasting any time strapping your kid in to get away from a fire. She has the time to get it right. Cut her some freaking slack. I also am team calling your MIL nanny vs grandma because she's on the clock is rude and weird. I think it's strange that you differentiate baby wearing by parents vs grandparents. All you need to do is mention to your MIL that you'd really like your baby to get some outside time.

It doesn't have to be done "in an instant" -- but a caretaker needs to be able to get the baby in a car if there's a situation that requires it. Example: Baby is ill enough that he needs to be taken to the pedi or urgent care right away, but not so ill an ambulance is required. Grandma needs to be able to get him in the car seat properly and safely. If she can't get it done in 10 minutes, I doubt she can get it done at all, especially in a situation where things are already tense.

notkateanymore

I can only imagine how tense Boots was when Mrs. Grandma the Nanny was getting the carseat test today...even in an emergency, when you don't have a tense mother staring at you, it's easier to do something.

onewayticket

Why does she have to strap him in if its just for a walk in the stroller?

cboink

The comment about grandparents didnt baby wear back in the day makes me laugh. This is not a new concept. My mom is in her mid 60's and wore me non stop. She also wears my daughter now and more than I do.
In regards I the car seat... I hate the one we have and I fight with it constantly to strap LO in. It taunts me!

onewayticket

Ok, to play devils advocate guise, I feel like its weird for grandma to take money to watch her grand baby so if she is taking money then why not call her nanny?

onewayticket

lrachelle80 said:

My mom wore DD1 all the time and I assume she will this time. She loves it and the kids love it. But the point about "does she call you Mrs. Boots" is both hilarious and valid. You're comparing her to a corporate worker and expecting her to be treated like one, but are you being held to the same standard?

I have never been in a corporate environment where people called each other Mr. And Mrs.

BootsOrHearts

lrachelle80 said:

My mom wore DD1 all the time and I assume she will this time. She loves it and the kids love it.

But the point about "does she call you Mrs. Boots" is both hilarious and valid. You're comparing her to a corporate worker and expecting her to be treated like one, but are you being held to the same standard?

Yes I am holding myself to the same standard. I respect her work hours and I make sure I am home at her end time. I don't expect free overtime because she's a relative. I pay her fairly and she has paid vacation time and paid sick time. I don't expect her to do household chores that aren't baby related ie washing diapers.

Any other false assumptions anyone would like to make?

So judge all you want but overall it works for us. Is she the most qualified caregiver ever? No but I doubt the most highly trained nanny out there would love him as much as she does. Will I continue to bitch about her sometimes? Yeah I will. I'm a picky mom. If you don't want to hear me whine, don't open my posts. Simple.

And @katemw and others, if you're trying to start shit with someone I'm not a good person to pick. I am not easily riled, I'm not some noob who is going to GBCB, I've been a supportive member of this board and I don't have particularly extreme views on anything so you will only bore people. Go sell crazy some place else.

Now If you post anything else I will only respond with silly gifs. Because this is silly!

greenbeanqueen

No one is trying to start anything with you. But since you "aren't some noob" you should know that when you come across as being dramatic or saying stupid crap people will call you out regardless of who you are. I generally really like you @BootsOrHearts‌ but this post just seems really over the top with you. No one is "selling crazy". You seem to want both worlds. You want to be able to be mad that she isn't the perfect "nanny" and treat her all businessy but when it's suggested that you may want to hire an actual professional if you are unhappy with your paid grandma you respond with "but no one will love lo like her, baby will get to know/have a relationship with Gma" what do you want? A nanny? Or a grandma? This post is so way blown out of proportion it's ridiculous. She is lo'a freaking grandma. Paid vacations or not.

Lesson in this = business with family is a bad idea.

notkateanymore

Nobody is starting shit with you, we're just not letting you get away with being crazy yourself. I also just wanted an answer to my damn question...did you ask her if she was interested in trying to wear DC or is there some reason you don't want her to?

Ktrue85

FLAME WORTHY OPINIONS APPROACHING:


1) Saying her MIL is the nanny during the day isn't that weird to me in THIS PARTICULAR situation, and I'll tell you why. If Boots pays her a competitive salary and she gets paid sick days and what not, and they made an actual business agreement, then MIL is, quite literally, their nanny. She let you all know that it was the MIL right away, not like she hid it for 4 pages before tossing it out there. I think you guys blew up on her for saying "nanny" when that is what her actual job is currently. I guess if anything Boots could have said "my MIL who we pay well and provide benefits for watches my LO." Nanny sort of wrapped that all up. I doubt Boots meant it as a dig, or to belittle what MIL does. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

2) Yes, always strap your baby in to the stroller/car seat when taking them out in it. This is for their safety an shouldn't be an option in your mind.

3) I'd be uncomfortable having a grandparent babywear if they weren't familiar with the method. For a walk they COULD just toss them in the stroller and not buckle them in and MOST of the time they'd be okay.. If you wrap incorrectly, you can more easily harm or drop LO. Proper training, sure, wear my kid all across town. I'm not sure what Boots' reasoning was on this since she didn't clearly explain, but that's my two cents on the matter.

cammyisagirlsname

No one is "starting shit with you". I would have questioned any post where a Bumpie called their MIL or mom "the nanny", well paid or not. It just seems odd to me. And that's my opinion.

bedagi

My friend's mil watches their son every day for hours and is paid well to do it. If she called me up and referred her mil 'the nanny' I would think she was joking.

esf60

I also don't understand why anyone has to walk anywhere. If the baby doesn't want to go in the carseat/stroller, and you don't want Mrs. Nanny to wear the baby, then tell her to bring a damn blanket outside and let LO stare at the clouds for awhile. Fresh air breathing achieved.

BootsOrHearts

All valid points.

mightymousy

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

notkateanymore

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

mightymousy

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

BootsOrHearts

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

blainethetrain

BootsOrHearts said:

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail

We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.



We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

Cuz that's totes how you get pneumonia.

BootsOrHearts

@lrachelle80 LOL at bitch eating crackers!

amberpro

I think the whole "would you pay a grandparent" thing is different for everyone depending on the family dynamic. My dad watched DS1 every day while I was at work for the first year. My parents would have laughed at me if I would have tried to pay them. He's actually very upset he can't do the same with DS2.

However, families are different. I see no problems paying a grandparent as a DC provider.

Would the car seat thing have frustrated me? Maybe a little, but I don't find it a big deal. I would work on it with her on a separate occasion so she knew for the future.

ugoglencoco

osajia said:

superspecialsnowflake said:

onewayticket said:

Ok, to play devils advocate guise, I feel like its weird for grandma to take money to watch her grand baby so if she is taking money then why not call her nanny?

You feel like it's weird for grandparents to accept payment for babysitting on a regular basis? I would never expect my parents to watch my kids for free - even for just a few hours here or there.  It's one thing to be there visiting with them, or for them to volunteer to take the kid somewhere for a few hours, but I feel like if you ask them to babysit, they should get paid to babysit.

Hmmm my mom babysits Haden 1 day per week all day while we work and then sporadically other times when we have things going on (evenings, weekends). I've never even considered paying her for this. Am I the oddball here? Honestly asking ... this never even occurred to me. Like most grandparents (I would assume) she loves spending time with him and always volunteers to watch him (seriously ... constantly!). The full-day was her idea, not ours. We planned on daycare 5 days a week. She initially asked to watch him 2 days per week and we agreed on 1 as we didn't want to potentially overwhelm her at first.

Anyway bottom line is am I totally weird for not paying grandma for watching baby?! Even if just for the full day once per week?

I don't pay any of my family to watch the kids. And I doubt they would take money if I did. My sister watches my kids and I watch hers. And my mom sometimes tells us to go do something so she can hang out with the kids... You're not alone!

BootsOrHearts

If anyone would like to know how the saga ended, it was quite dull.

Today she asked if I could help get him in the car seat so she can learn take him out in the stroller. I suggested for today they just walk around the yard, to the end of the driveway, etc. and another day when I have more time we'd practice putting him in there and taking him out until she's comfortable with it. I thought about buying the bassinet attachment for the stroller but he'd only be able to use it for a couple more months and by that time he'd be sitting up (or almost) anyway and he will be easier to manage.

BootsOrHearts

osajia said:

superspecialsnowflake said:

onewayticket said:

Ok, to play devils advocate guise, I feel like its weird for grandma to take money to watch her grand baby so if she is taking money then why not call her nanny?

You feel like it's weird for grandparents to accept payment for babysitting on a regular basis? I would never expect my parents to watch my kids for free - even for just a few hours here or there.  It's one thing to be there visiting with them, or for them to volunteer to take the kid somewhere for a few hours, but I feel like if you ask them to babysit, they should get paid to babysit.

Hmmm my mom babysits Haden 1 day per week all day while we work and then sporadically other times when we have things going on (evenings, weekends). I've never even considered paying her for this. Am I the oddball here? Honestly asking ... this never even occurred to me. Like most grandparents (I would assume) she loves spending time with him and always volunteers to watch him (seriously ... constantly!). The full-day was her idea, not ours. We planned on daycare 5 days a week. She initially asked to watch him 2 days per week and we agreed on 1 as we didn't want to potentially overwhelm her at first.

Anyway bottom line is am I totally weird for not paying grandma for watching baby?! Even if just for the full day once per week?

I think for sporadic things like 'hey something came up, can you watch baby' or 'hey I have some time, want me to come over and watch baby' not necessary but if you're expecting someone to be somewhere at a certain time and certain place every week or every day, that's different. In the first scenario, they can say 'no sorry I'm busy' but in the second they can't.

I have a friend who would come and help me out with baby when he first came home from the hospital and DH went back to work. It was super helpful, she came over once or twice a week when she had time. I didn't pay her for that, she was doing it as a friend. But when I asked her if she would come from 8-1 two days a week so I had a predictable window of time to sleep/eat/shower/go to the gym/buy groceries, etc. I offered to pay her and she accepted.

KFED103

hckygrl909 said:

BootsOrHearts said:

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail

We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

Cuz that's totes how you get pneumonia.


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Seriously boots, put the kid in a snow suit (if you had one) and take a pic. Saying they would get pneumonia is like saying you won't let your kid walk from the front door to the car in 90 degree weather because they might get heat stroke.

lp0

This is why I'd always strap baby into the car seat (carriage or stroller).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6DYfo8Ybkk&sns=em

KFED103

osajia said:

LP0198 said:

This is why I'd always strap baby into the car seat (carriage or stroller). 

OMG. Still waiting for my heart to start beating again.
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Yea but that's not what anyone is talking about. Good video for the placement of a car seat on a shopping cart debate tho

PamMcManus

If she can't figure out how to strap the baby in the car seat, I don't think id be letting her watch my kid.

notkateanymore

hckygrl909 said:

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

Cuz that's totes how you get pneumonia.

If I had said it, I would have been giving her shit, but yeah...

BootsOrHearts

@LP0198 OMG that made my heart skip a beat.

BootsOrHearts

KateMW said:

hckygrl909 said:

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

Cuz that's totes how you get pneumonia.

If I had said it, I would have been giving her shit, but yeah...

FFS Kate

mightymousy

KFED103 said:

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

Cuz that's totes how you get pneumonia.

------ Seriously boots, put the kid in a snow suit (if you had one) and take a pic. Saying they would get pneumonia is like saying you won't let your kid walk from the front door to the car in 90 degree weather because they might get heat stroke.

Yeah have some fun he'll be fine. My little guy spends longer than that, in far colder temps, just getting from the store to the car.

notkateanymore

BootsOrHearts said:

KateMW said:

hckygrl909 said:

mightymousy said:

KateMW said:

mightymousy said:

All I can think of is how much you'd hate living up here lol. 3.5 months old and my DS has only been for a proper walk in the stroller once because it's too cold outside to take him out.

Oooo let's play how cold is it in the North Pole...how cold is it today?

Eta: quote fail We're having a warm spell today actually -20 (-4 Fahrenheit I think) but that really just means warm enough to snow some more lol.

We actually got some snow here this winter which is rare, everyone kept telling me I should get Baby Boots a big fluffy snowsuit and drop him in the snow long enough to take a picture because it would be sooooo cute. I was like yeah, pneumonia is real cute too. :-P

Cuz that's totes how you get pneumonia.

If I had said it, I would have been giving her shit, but yeah...

FFS Kate

What Boots? You already accused me of doing it once when I wasn't.

lp0

KFED103 said:

osajia said:

LP0198 said:

This is why I'd always strap baby into the car seat (carriage or stroller). 

OMG. Still waiting for my heart to start beating again.

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Yea but that's not what anyone is talking about. Good video for the placement of a car seat on a shopping cart debate tho


No I know that's what everyone was taking about but I felt it was relative to the conversation. If someone could bump a carriage they could bump a stroller the same way. Figured it couldn't hurt

Sorry to give everyone a heart attack.

lp0

Loolaide said:

LP0198 said:

KFED103 said:

osajia said:

LP0198 said:

This is why I'd always strap baby into the car seat (carriage or stroller). 

OMG. Still waiting for my heart to start beating again.

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Yea but that's not what anyone is talking about. Good video for the placement of a car seat on a shopping cart debate tho

No I know that's what everyone was taking about but I felt it was relative to the conversation. If someone could bump a carriage they could bump a stroller the same way. Figured it couldn't hurt

Sorry to give everyone a heart attack.

Nope. A car seat on top of a cart is unstable. A stroller isn't.

I didn't say it was unstable in the stroller but it can also be knocked over.