May 2014 Moms

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  • Kate070 said:




    whse13kittens said:

    My UO is if you are willfully underemployed (I.e. you can physically and mentally hold down a job and you CHOOSE not to) and live off food stamps, wic, medicaid/medicare and child support, I do not think you should be allowed to spend 1800$+ on a beach vacation. And/or you should be required to show the government where that money came from and have that factored in to your benefit calculations.
    Pretty sure this is NOT unpopular. 

    There will always be egregious examples of people abusing the system.  They're outliers, though, not the norm.

    It drives me insane how many people forget this.  We're doing fine now, but (despite college degrees and thanks to a combination of a shitty economy and disability) DH and I have been poor in the past.  Now, we never used GA, but we also didn't have children or anything.  Some people may know people who abuse the system, but for the love of God, don't paint everyone with that brush.  I know too many people who have just hit some serious misfortune (my mother, who can't stand taking GA but had severe health issues that forced her to stop working for a couple of years; an older man I used to work with who, after a long career making decent money, was laid off during the recession and could only find minimum wage work). 

    You never know a person's situation.  My mother got to take a nice vacation while getting disability checks... because her MIL paid to have her whole family go somewhere.  I'm sure if people didn't know that fact, they were judging the hell out of her.  This kind of thing pisses me off.  If you don't know a person's entire situation (which, let's face it, you never will), just keep your mouth shut.


    i'm sorry for your troubles, and your mom's. i do know people are live off GA and are completely responsible and just in a hard luck situation. i know most of the people who live off GA are not abusing the situation. but that's why my opinion is unpopular: i still think you should be able to account for where your money comes from to the government if asked. MIL pays for a vaca for you? awesome, pass. you've been sitting on a stash of cash and/or working under the table and lying about it? fail, deducted from your benefits.

    i freely admit this opinion is colored by people i know frauding the system. yes, i've reported them and no, nothing has been done about it. it burns me and frankly makes me angry that they are using GA they dont need to when it could be given to people who REALLY need it.
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  • I think musical theater is lame. Broadway makes me gag.

    I'm not a fan of most of the literary classics either. I find most of them incredibly boring and some of them even stupid. Romeo and Juliet, for example. Yeah, the play contains some pretty words, but it was just a story about two bratty teenagers who knew nothing about true love.


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  • Kate070 said:




    whse13kittens said:

    My UO is if you are willfully underemployed (I.e. you can physically and mentally hold down a job and you CHOOSE not to) and live off food stamps, wic, medicaid/medicare and child support, I do not think you should be allowed to spend 1800$+ on a beach vacation. And/or you should be required to show the government where that money came from and have that factored in to your benefit calculations.
    Pretty sure this is NOT unpopular. 

    There will always be egregious examples of people abusing the system.  They're outliers, though, not the norm.

    It drives me insane how many people forget this.  We're doing fine now, but (despite college degrees and thanks to a combination of a shitty economy and disability) DH and I have been poor in the past.  Now, we never used GA, but we also didn't have children or anything.  Some people may know people who abuse the system, but for the love of God, don't paint everyone with that brush.  I know too many people who have just hit some serious misfortune (my mother, who can't stand taking GA but had severe health issues that forced her to stop working for a couple of years; an older man I used to work with who, after a long career making decent money, was laid off during the recession and could only find minimum wage work). 

    You never know a person's situation.  My mother got to take a nice vacation while getting disability checks... because her MIL paid to have her whole family go somewhere.  I'm sure if people didn't know that fact, they were judging the hell out of her.  This kind of thing pisses me off.  If you don't know a person's entire situation (which, let's face it, you never will), just keep your mouth shut.


    i'm sorry for your troubles, and your mom's. i do know people are live off GA and are completely responsible and just in a hard luck situation. i know most of the people who live off GA are not abusing the situation. but that's why my opinion is unpopular: i still think you should be able to account for where your money comes from to the government if asked. MIL pays for a vaca for you? awesome, pass. you've been sitting on a stash of cash and/or working under the table and lying about it? fail, deducted from your benefits.

    i freely admit this opinion is colored by people i know frauding the system. yes, i've reported them and no, nothing has been done about it. it burns me and frankly makes me angry that they are using GA they dont need to when it could be given to people who REALLY need it.

    also i did state and still mean: willfully unemployed. the 3 families i'm specifically thinking of can work and choose not to and/or work under the table for other family members and lie to the government about thei income -- so they do not pay taxes and still receive GA. they are not in hard luck situations. they are in self-appointed situations. they do not need GA. they should be earning a life instead of letting the taxpayers do it for them because, and i quote, "work is hard and i dont want to".
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  • I think we should really stir crap up today and have a crib bumper clicky poll. If I knew how to do it I might even create one.
    @carissa32581, At the top of the M14 board, there is the link to create New Discussion. Click on the arrow to the right of that, and you have 3 choices. Select New Poll.




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  • Kaylee524 said:
    I have two (maybe) UOs - and they both have to do with Facebook.

    Firstly - I hate when people use Facebook like a Pinterest board. "Sharing" recipes, home care tips, etc. is essentially the same as "pinning" them on Pinterest, but it eats up my newsfeed. Not cool. I check Facebook to find out what friends and family I don't get to talk to that often are up to - not to find a recipe for Taco Pie.

    Second - folks should really fact check things before they share them on their Facebook pages. Just because someone made a nifty graphic with some info on it doesn't mean the info is true. Do your homework. Otherwise, your impassioned political diatribes don't make you sound smart - they make you sound ignorant, and they spread ignorance to all of your Facebook friends.

    Also, as an aside, I think I can give some insight on the whole "treating pets as baby" thing, @AnnieA75. I have definitely been guilty of this in the past - not carrying them around in strollers or anything but definitely baby-talking and posting ridiculous numbers of pics on Facebook. It took us a really long time to get pregnant, and sometimes I felt like my dogs were going to be the only "babies" I ever had, so I definitely projected a little of my longing for a baby onto them. :P
    @ Kaylee524 I agree about Fb -- use it as Fb people! Also, I do understand where you're coming from about the pets. It took us three years and three failed IVF cycles to get pregnant, so our little malti-poo was my baby for a long time. I get what you mean about projecting the longing for a baby onto a dog. I'm more referring to the over the top pet obsessions. Like, the friend who's currently driving me batty with all her pet talk -- the other day, she said her kitty sneezed a couple of times so she was going to have to leave work early and take him to the vet. For a sneeze? I mean, you have to be kidding me. I reminded her that hey, the cat is new to your home and maybe he needs to get used to the fur from your other pets, or maybe dust is bothering him. And this is not a rare example, this is the norm with her.

    Btw, I'm super glad you're not walking around town with your dog in a papoose b/c I literally have seen that too!
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  • also i did state and still mean: willfully unemployed. the 3 families i'm specifically thinking of can work and choose not to and/or work under the table for other family members and lie to the government about thei income -- so they do not pay taxes and still receive GA. they are not in hard luck situations. they are in self-appointed situations. they do not need GA. they should be earning a life instead of letting the taxpayers do it for them because, and i quote, "work is hard and i dont want to".
    I would certainly agree with you that there's a problem there, and something needs to change with those families.  It just seems to me that a lot of people, knowing of certain cases like that, think that EVERYone using GA is like that, and makes judgments.  Or wants to make changes to the system that would be detrimental to those really in need.


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  • Letayloreo #fuck#those#hashtags!!! So freaking annoying! And I swear, I don't associate with people who go overboard with them, but if anyone ever sent me a text, or had a verbal convo with me which contained a hash tag, I would disown them. For life.

    On the boat/water trend -  I hate lakes, ponds, and other man made, stagnant water features. I'm not fond of the ocean either. Pools are where it's at.

    It also drives me BSC that the people here in IN seem to love them. "Look Bertha! We bought a 1 acre plot of land! Let's waste a buncha money to make the land unusable and slap a 3/4 acre lake in!" Fuck you and the lake you swim in.
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  • jenb_99 said:
    I think musical theater is lame. Broadway makes me gag.

    I'm not a fan of most of the literary classics either. I find most of them incredibly boring and some of them even stupid. Romeo and Juliet, for example. Yeah, the play contains some pretty words, but it was just a story about two bratty teenagers who knew nothing about true love.

    ***GASP**** LOL - My mom and I have tickets to the entire broadway series that comes to our city and I was an English Lit Major :) To each their own though- I can't stand regular plays but love musicals.

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  • jenb_99 said:

    I think musical theater is lame. Broadway makes me gag.

    I'm not a fan of most of the literary classics either. I find most of them incredibly boring and some of them even stupid. Romeo and Juliet, for example. Yeah, the play contains some pretty words, but it was just a story about two bratty teenagers who knew nothing about true love.

    Sigh....I thought we were going to be bff's...
  • jane8188 said:

    I will add to the gov assistance topic. My husband is just starting out in his career and makes around 35k a year, and I sah with our son because daycare costs here are more than I make in a year. Last year I was paying for my own blue cross heath plan for maternity out of pocket because my job had no benefits. We had never been on government assistance before and didn't need to because we do everything possible to save money, cloth diaper, never eat out, but things second hand and receive hand me downs. We have a lot of nice things, brand new car, because we saved and literally have done nothing since our wedding. And also the only way my mother knows how to show love is buying us things.

    Fast forward to december, I went to renew my health insurance and I was declined. They told me because I qualified for Medicaid they could not insure me because I would also qualify for subsidies, and if you qualify for Medicaid you can't get subsidies. So now we have no choice and have to be on Medicaid, even though we can pay for our own and we tried to.

    I have a nice car and nice things and our family takes us on vacations. I bet it looks like we abuse the system too, and I feel really uncomfortable being on it because I feel like I am being judged. Oh well, point is, you don't know peoples personal situations.

    In my personal opinion, if your husband works and you still have to use Medicaid, you're in a hardluck situation, and I'm sorry for that.  I wish there was more I could personally do to help you.  You're also not who I'm speaking about, cause I bet if the government said, "hey, where'd ya get the nice car" you could say, "hey, my husband works, here's his paystubs."

    I am, again, talking about people who willfully choose not to work because "i don't want to and shouldn't have to" or who lie to the government about working (work under the table and still collect all types of benefits - healthcare, food stamps, wic, etc).  I freely admitting knowing people who abuse the system has colored my opinion, a lot.  But I feel like it you were/are asked to provide documentation about where you get certain LUXERY items (super fancy car, for example, like a brand new Lexus, when you're on food stamps, wic, and medicare/medicaid), you should be willing and able to produce documentation that it was a gift and/or a prize, not something you just had the cash laying around to purchase.

    Huge difference in those who actually need the assistance (yourself) and those who are playing the game (the people I am using as examples.)
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  • @Mamarazziof3 People are shocked that I don't like Broadway too because I was a singer and almost majored in vocal performance.

    The literature thing really freaks people out, though, because I have a language degree and I'm a book editor.


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  • @carissa32581 The Broadway thing is a deal breaker for a lot of people. I've come to terms with it. I got the side eye a lot in high school choir class. lol


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  • IBackBevo said:
    I am 100% with @ErBear1010 and @empireceo - I don't care what parenting decisions you make regarding your kids so long as it doesn't affect me or my kid and isn't abuse/neglect.  I can almost guarantee everyone on this board will at some point do something that is against the "recommendations" or "best/safest practices" even if it is unknowingly.

    Edit: I also find it slightly disingenuous when people try to "school" you on a subject and use the excuse that they are trying to protect your child.  If they are doing it a respectful manner, I may buy it.  But sometimes it is clear that they just want to be right or win an argument...

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  • I don't understand how so many people can dislike nuts. I love them.
    I like nuts when they are by themselves, but they ruin any chocolate or baked good. 
  • awc1986 said:
    On the chocolate and nuts debate, I think the combo is disgusting. I like chocolate I like nuts Why the fuck did people decide to put them together?! You can't mix sweet and savoury like that. Also, peanut butter is an abomination.
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  • jenb_99 said:
    I think musical theater is lame. Broadway makes me gag.

    I'm not a fan of most of the literary classics either. I find most of them incredibly boring and some of them even stupid. Romeo and Juliet, for example. Yeah, the play contains some pretty words, but it was just a story about two bratty teenagers who knew nothing about true love.
    As a former musical theater kid and English teacher, this makes me want to cry.  I love all things Broadway!
  • ooooo I have an UO and I remembered it today! But I'm not sure if it is totally a UO....


    My UO is that I can't take degrees from online universities (Devry, Phoenix, etc) seriously. But this is total bias on my part just from knowing/working with higher-ups who completed their degrees online and strike me as totally incompetent. It is probably relevant to add that I work in education. I'm sure that is not the case for everyone, but I have yet to have an experience which makes me feel differently (and I think there are an awful lot of pitfalls to online education). 

    Edited cause words are hard. 
    Those for-profit schools are no good. They enroll 13% of all college students but claim a whopping 46% of all student loan defaults. There have been efforts (and successes) in California to reign these places in.

    That being said, I am personally very excited by the online expansion of liberal arts studies by the public universities here in California. It used to be only the vocational stuff like nursing, education & criminal justice were available online. If you wanted to to obtain liberal arts degree, you had to be in a classroom 3-5 days a week, during business hours. As a soon to be working mother, it is probably my only hope for completing my 4 year degree.

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    hcorcoran said:
    jenb_99 said:
    I think musical theater is lame. Broadway makes me gag.

    I'm not a fan of most of the literary classics either. I find most of them incredibly boring and some of them even stupid. Romeo and Juliet, for example. Yeah, the play contains some pretty words, but it was just a story about two bratty teenagers who knew nothing about true love.
    As a former musical theater kid and English teacher, this makes me want to cry.  I love all things Broadway!
    Well, I do work in publishing, and I read for a living. I'm a book editor. Does that help or make it worse? LOL

    I'm not very popular at Tony time. ;)


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  • I really didn't know there was anything against taking little kids on boats. I actually consider myself pretty overprotective/overbearing and I just never thought of it as an issue until yesterday. I've even gone as far as taking our pack n play out on the boat when DS was really young to sleep and play. It worked out awesome. Oops.

    I don't actually think there's anything wrong with taking a kid on a relatively slow, smooth boat ride. As long as you have a quality life jacket that will keep your kids head above water in the event of an accident. 

    It's just interesting to note where different people draw the line. Most of the time I'd tell you I want to take every possible safety precaution when it comes to my kid, but I also don't want to be that Nervous Nelly that never lets my kid do anything fun because I'm scared.
    Ditto, I spent a lot of time on a boat as a baby and small child, I always had a life jacket on and I was always with family. They weren't the rock and roll/speed type of boaters either!
    This. I grew up on boats. My first boat ride was when my family took a 1 week trip on a canal boat in England with me. I was about 3-4 months old.

    My entire dad's side of the family are sailors so I may just have a different out look on it. However, even though my late grandpa was an exceptional sailor he often fell off the boat into the water. He even did it on the canal trip in England when they came to visit us. It's kind of a running joke in my family.

    I do plan on taking my kid to swim lessons ASAP along with taking him out in the Puget Sound on the boat my grandpa built in the 60s and my dad refinished in the 90s this summer.


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  • My UO is: I HATE baby clothes, blankets, pacifiers, WHATEVER! with god awful mustaches! I think it looks trashy/tacky.
    HAHAHA I love these. Guess I'm trashy?

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