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MEP923

esf60 said:

@MEP923 What an awful thing to have gone through, and I totally understand. I was in and out of treatment, fully recovered (or so I thought) only to slip back into it. These things creep up on you. One meal skipped can lead to days of meals skipped, just like one hit of something at a party can lead to a full-blown drug binge. xx

Couldn't have explained it any better.

caseybeth1213

Heaven802002 said:

KFED103 said:

First, just want to say that we have some strong ladies up in hizere!! Hugs to all. I remembered one of mine. Yesterday I asked DH that when he talks to his mom the next time, to hint around if she is going to get a big item for the baby. She bought DS's crib and dresser last time do I would assume she would want to get something for this LO. She's a bit scatterbrained and needs to be reminded of things sometimes. And I just want to budget for the big things we need to get. Also, Her daughter had 4 showers/sprinkles for 4 kids so I don't think she is against gifts for 2nd babies I'm a gift grabby whore!!!

LOL it's ok- My MIL said she would buy the crib and mattress for my LO and I've been checking my registry everyday to see if she has (she hasn't). I asked DH to casually ask her about it too
:P

I'm the same way lol My MIL is getting the carseat and I can't stop looking at the registry! I'm just so excited about everything!

bishesbcrazy

Ladies, thank you for sharing your personal stories.  While I haven't gone through any of these struggles, having you all talking about it will hopefully make it easier for someone to get help if any of us goes through any of this in the future.

I'm going to ditto KFED and say you all are some strong ladies.

insertclevername

gwinnygirl said:

I'm getting off work early today to go on a weekend getaway with H. I have done exactly nothing to prepare other than shop so that MIL has food to make for DS and do some laundry (didn't even bother to fold/put away). I am going to be running around in a panic & probably get out of town later than we wanted to. Where did all my nesting/preparing instincts go?!

I have zero nesting/preparing instincts this time around.  I may even have a negative amount.  I really hope you enjoy your weekend away @gwinnygirl

backoffunicorn

jamrosj said:

I cried last night because my ILs decided they're coming for thanksgiving. I have reason to be so upset because they're staying in a hotel and probably have realistic expectations of what I can do at 37 weeks but I just want to be left alone.  I keep thinking how awful it would be if I went into labor with them here because I want to labor at home for a long time and I only want dh to see me when I'm a hot mess.

Is it horrible that I told mine not to come???  They're coming Dec. 24th - Dec 30th and I told them I wasn't sure if I would be up for company at Thanksgiving.  Plus, DH's stepmom would be cooking in my small apt all day long and I just want to lay around do nothing!!!

Mrbatesisinnocent

Lawren said:

I was prepared to kick some geese ass the other night at dinner. I took Owen outside to see them and they all started charging and hissing at him. I wouldn't haven't hesitated if they got close enough. Since Jehovah Witnesses were brought up this week-A few weeks ago I told some that came to my house I couldn't come to the door because I didn't have any pants on, from the couch, through our opened storm door. *mobile wont let me use paragraphs*

This is hilarious! When someone knocks on my door I freeze; then I hide like a crazy person. If I don't have a package being delivered, or family/friends coming over I will not open the door.

I got in trouble from DH last time I opened the door. It ended up being a security system salesperson, so we now have security like Fort Knox at our place (it's a really really safe neighborhood, and I was being ridiculous), and a monthly bill with a 4 year contract. DH was not amused.

bishesbcrazy

gwinnygirl said:

NYMama1 said:

gwinnygirl said:

I'm getting off work early today to go on a weekend getaway with H. I have done exactly nothing to prepare other than shop so that MIL has food to make for DS and do some laundry (didn't even bother to fold/put away). I am going to be running around in a panic & probably get out of town later than we wanted to. Where did all my nesting/preparing instincts go?!

I have zero nesting/preparing instincts this time around.  I may even have a negative amount.  I really hope you enjoy your weekend away @gwinnygirl

This is crap! I was told morning sickness was only for first tri & I would have nesting kick in - what the hell?

My nesting instincts have kicked in, but my body is laughing at them.

 

My small FFFC.  I've probably eaten more fruit this pregnancy than I've eaten in the past 3 years combined....shameful.

Sigir

Soozerella said:

I mentioned a while ago that I started therapy because I was pretty seriously depressed. Today is another session with the lady and she is always 20-25 minutes late to our hour appointment and doesn't really do anything that encourage me to take drugs instead of breastfeeding and talk to me about my annoying MIL. Basically I feel like it's a giant waste of my time and especially now that I'm not feeling depressed I just want to stop going, but pretend like I still am to appease DH.

Haven't read further, but I have depression and have had awesome therapists, and terrible therapists. Some I went to once and never went again bc they were so bad. Others I hung on for a while but cut my losses. My point is, don't give up if you need therapy, try someone else. There are awseome ones that can really help.

MEP923

Cashingn2 said:

@MEP923 What an awful thing to have gone through, and I totally understand. I was in and out of treatment, fully recovered (or so I thought) only to slip back into it. These things creep up on you. One meal skipped can lead to days of meals skipped, just like one hit of something at a party can lead to a full-blown drug binge. xx

I can relate to both of you. When I started working out hard core again a couple of years ago, I worried about going overboard. It's scary how easy it is to slip. I remember when I started having symptoms of PCOS (weight gain) I panicked and slipped majorly. I couldn't stop the weight gain no matter what. That's when I got into drinking in college. I couldn't control my weight so I lost control of everything.

Hugs. You have no idea how much I can relate. Xoxoxoxo

Sigir

Soozerella said:

Soozerella said:I mentioned a while ago that I started therapy because I was pretty seriously depressed. Today is another session with the lady and she is always 20-25 minutes late to our hour appointment and doesn't really do anything that encourage me to take drugs instead of breastfeeding and talk to me about my annoying MIL. Basically I feel like it's a giant waste of my time and especially now that I'm not feeling depressed I just want to stop going, but pretend like I still am to appease DH.

I am glad you are feeling a bit better but sorry your therapist sucks.  Are there any other therapists nearby that you could try out?  Therapy was so helpful for me after DS1 was born.  Also, there are medications that are safe while breastfeeding so it doesn't have to be one or the other.  I refused meds last time because I didn't want to risk it and then spent the first 1.5 years of DS1's life in a PPD haze.  If I get PPD again this time I am going to take bf safe med.

I had pretty serious depression when I was a teenager and was on a series of different medications that all made me pretty dangerously suicidal. I know that this is pretty common for younger people on antidepressants but I'm so terrified that it could happen again that I don't feel safe taking anything while my baby is 100% dependent on me. I sort of feel like after the 6th month mark if I still feel like shit I will be more inclined to take something. I'm not anti-drugs by any means I'm just scared of them for myself.

Sorry to serial post, but I have another tip based on your comment here. My depression was very serious- I was hospitalized for a suicide attempt at one point and in an outpatient full day program for about a year. Anyway, when I got pregnant w my first child my psychiatrist put me on high doses of Omega 3, the EPA component in particular. The dose is way higher than you would get with a prenatal supplement. Anyway, it worked wonders for me after about 2 weeks, and to this day I still take it, and am drug free. If I go off, I can tell. If you want more info send me a pm, I have lots of studies and data that show how well it works. I currently take GNC's triple strength Fish Oil, 3 tablets.

kittyh8r

I have another one. 

I am in a fb group centered around car seat safety. I thought I knew a lot about car seat safety, but I am clearly an idiot. It's apparently pretty flameful to bring a child on the plane without having them in a car seat. We flew with Emma a couple times and I wore her in the moby. I cannot imagine spending the extra money on my 2 month old to fly in a seat by herself. Especially when she needed to eat on take off. Now that I know it's "incredibly dangerous" we'll likely still do it if we have to. It's so much easier. One woman said that she would be irate if my infant hit her during an accident. What the...?

northport6

Sigir said:

Soozerella said:

Soozerella said:I mentioned a while ago that I started therapy because I was pretty seriously depressed. Today is another session with the lady and she is always 20-25 minutes late to our hour appointment and doesn't really do anything that encourage me to take drugs instead of breastfeeding and talk to me about my annoying MIL. Basically I feel like it's a giant waste of my time and especially now that I'm not feeling depressed I just want to stop going, but pretend like I still am to appease DH.

I am glad you are feeling a bit better but sorry your therapist sucks.  Are there any other therapists nearby that you could try out?  Therapy was so helpful for me after DS1 was born.  Also, there are medications that are safe while breastfeeding so it doesn't have to be one or the other.  I refused meds last time because I didn't want to risk it and then spent the first 1.5 years of DS1's life in a PPD haze.  If I get PPD again this time I am going to take bf safe med.

I had pretty serious depression when I was a teenager and was on a series of different medications that all made me pretty dangerously suicidal. I know that this is pretty common for younger people on antidepressants but I'm so terrified that it could happen again that I don't feel safe taking anything while my baby is 100% dependent on me. I sort of feel like after the 6th month mark if I still feel like shit I will be more inclined to take something. I'm not anti-drugs by any means I'm just scared of them for myself.

Sorry to serial post, but I have another tip based on your comment here. My depression was very serious- I was hospitalized for a suicide attempt at one point and in an outpatient full day program for about a year. Anyway, when I got pregnant w my first child my psychiatrist put me on high doses of Omega 3, the EPA component in particular. The dose is way higher than you would get with a prenatal supplement. Anyway, it worked wonders for me after about 2 weeks, and to this day I still take it, and am drug free. If I go off, I can tell. If you want more info send me a pm, I have lots of studies and data that show how well it works. I currently take GNC's triple strength Fish Oil, 3 tablets.

To piggyback on the 'natural' angle: I take a super high dose of Niacin -- started it post-MC when I couldn't get out of bed for like a month.  It's 1,000 mg, the same as they give heart patients and it makes me flush red for about an hour after I take it, but it's so worth it.  I also take a high-dose dissolving D with calcium during the winter to fight the sads.

jamrosj

lorlor681 said:

jamrosj said:

I cried last night because my ILs decided they're coming for thanksgiving. I have reason to be so upset because they're staying in a hotel and probably have realistic expectations of what I can do at 37 weeks but I just want to be left alone.  I keep thinking how awful it would be if I went into labor with them here because I want to labor at home for a long time and I only want dh to see me when I'm a hot mess.

Is it horrible that I told mine not to come???  They're coming Dec. 24th - Dec 30th and I told them I wasn't sure if I would be up for company at Thanksgiving.  Plus, DH's stepmom would be cooking in my small apt all day long and I just want to lay around do nothing!!!

No, not horrible. We haven't seen them since July so it would be really bad of me to tell them not to come since they won't see us again til next year. I too am planning on laying around not doing anything I'm mostly dreading getting my house into decent shape.  

northport6

@EmmaBoBemma said:

I have another one. 

I am in a fb group centered around car seat safety. I thought I knew a lot about car seat safety, but I am clearly an idiot. It's apparently pretty flameful to bring a child on the plane without having them in a car seat. We flew with Emma a couple times and I wore her in the moby. I cannot imagine spending the extra money on my 2 month old to fly in a seat by herself. Especially when she needed to eat on take off. Now that I know it's "incredibly dangerous" we'll likely still do it if we have to. It's so much easier. One woman said that she would be irate if my infant hit her during an accident. What the...?

Wow, of all the things I wouldn't be worried about during a plane crash...  I'm assuming she meant she'd be irate IF SHE LIVED THROUGH THE PLANE CRASH.  At which point I kind of want to be like, "What the F are you so upset about?  YOU JUST LIVED THROUGH A PLANE CRASH."

But maybe that's the FTM in me talking.

KFED103

EmmaBoBemma said:

I have another one. 

I am in a fb group centered around car seat safety. I thought I knew a lot about car seat safety, but I am clearly an idiot. It's apparently pretty flameful to bring a child on the plane without having them in a car seat. We flew with Emma a couple times and I wore her in the moby. I cannot imagine spending the extra money on my 2 month old to fly in a seat by herself. Especially when she needed to eat on take off. Now that I know it's "incredibly dangerous" we'll likely still do it if we have to. It's so much easier. One woman said that she would be irate if my infant hit her during an accident. What the...?

Gasp! Lol jk. DS has taken about 7 plane trips and we have yet to get him his own seat. I think your FB group would shun me!

nofcksgiven

gwinnygirl said:

I'm having sushi AND wine tonight.

I'm totes jealous.

mavgirl_73

KFED103 said:

EmmaBoBemma said:

I have another one. 

I am in a fb group centered around car seat safety. I thought I knew a lot about car seat safety, but I am clearly an idiot. It's apparently pretty flameful to bring a child on the plane without having them in a car seat. We flew with Emma a couple times and I wore her in the moby. I cannot imagine spending the extra money on my 2 month old to fly in a seat by herself. Especially when she needed to eat on take off. Now that I know it's "incredibly dangerous" we'll likely still do it if we have to. It's so much easier. One woman said that she would be irate if my infant hit her during an accident. What the...?

Gasp! Lol jk. DS has taken about 7 plane trips and we have yet to get him his own seat. I think your FB group would shun me!

I'd be banished! We took every available plane trip while DD1 was under 2 to avoid paying for the seat!

Sigir

EmmaBoBemma said:

I have another one. 

I am in a fb group centered around car seat safety. I thought I knew a lot about car seat safety, but I am clearly an idiot. It's apparently pretty flameful to bring a child on the plane without having them in a car seat. We flew with Emma a couple times and I wore her in the moby. I cannot imagine spending the extra money on my 2 month old to fly in a seat by herself. Especially when she needed to eat on take off. Now that I know it's "incredibly dangerous" we'll likely still do it if we have to. It's so much easier. One woman said that she would be irate if my infant hit her during an accident. What the...?

Yes, on another forum I frequent, not buying your baby their own seat is a hot button topic that usually spurs at least 10 pages of flames back and forth. I have done it when I only had one, but more for my own sanity than for safety. Now, with multiple kids I don't do it. The bottom line is that statistically you are more likely to get into a car accident if you choose to drive somewhere instead of flying because of the cost of a seat for your baby, than you are likely for your plane to crash...(did I explain that well?) that is one of the reasons the NTSB does not mandate that you must buy a seat for your lo.

mavgirl_73

gwinnygirl said:

I'm seriously contemplating throwing away the bargain tp that H bought - my delicate lady bits can't handle that sandpaper crap.

Ain't nobody got time for sandpaper tp! Got get some soft quilted northern ultra!

caseybeth1213

gwinnygirl said:

I'm seriously contemplating throwing away the bargain tp that H bought - my delicate lady bits can't handle that sandpaper crap.

My husband threatened to go to the cheap crap because I was going through it so fast lol Like threatening me is going to  make me stop peeing so much.  He would never do it because he wouldn't wanna wipe his own butt with it!

blainethetrain

gwinnygirl said:

I'm seriously contemplating throwing away the bargain tp that H bought - my delicate lady bits can't handle that sandpaper crap.

Only angel soft is allowed in our house. Soft but not soft enough to leave toilet paper lint balls in your crevices.

insertclevername

gwinnygirl said:

tarashea721 said:

While at babies r us, I heard a little girl (around 5) say "oh em gee mom, I def love pink and totes want this bike" and I turned around to look and thought "she must have older sisters"....until the mom said "oh em gee!!! I l-o-v-e it. Your dad is totes gonna be mad but were getting it"..... I felt terrible. I judged. Badly....

I probably would have laughed out loud at that.

I definitely would have laughed out loud.  I picture Reese Witherspoon from Legally Blonde with a little mini me.

mavgirl_73

hckygrl909 said:

gwinnygirl said:

I'm seriously contemplating throwing away the bargain tp that H bought - my delicate lady bits can't handle that sandpaper crap.

Only angel soft is allowed in our house. Soft but not soft enough to leave toilet paper lint balls in your crevices.

Lint balls in crevices...lol

nofcksgiven

gwinnygirl said:

Meggie0421 said:

gwinnygirl said:

I'm having sushi AND wine tonight.

I'm totes jealous.

We're going out of town and I have been menu stalking, planning my order like all week. It's a REALLY big deal to me, apparently. : )


Have a great trip and I hope you love your sushi.

I had my first glass of pregnancy wine last night and now I really want to buy a bottle of wine on my way home from the grocery store.

It tastes So. Damn. Good.

BeachMommy2B

tarashea721 said:

gwinnygirl said:

tarashea721 said:

While at babies r us, I heard a little girl (around 5) say "oh em gee mom, I def love pink and totes want this bike" and I turned around to look and thought "she must have older sisters"....until the mom said "oh em gee!!! I l-o-v-e it. Your dad is totes gonna be mad but were getting it".....


I felt terrible. I judged. Badly....

I probably would have laughed out loud at that.

I had the deer in headlights look. Lmao.

If I thought the mom was obviously just joking with the little girl I probably would have thought it was cute.

If I thought it was serious, and probably the way the mom talks to her all the time, I would have also had a blank stare on my face.

GreenMom2B

My FFFC- I am on hospital bed rest and I am happier than I was on home bed rest. I am doing the same thing (watching TV). But my meals are served to me- and they are very good.

I also like the peace of mind with 24 hr monitoring.

I guess I feel guilty b/c my husband has to drive 40 min each way to see me and all of the final prep work for the baby now falls on him.

backoffunicorn

I have a midday FFFC.  How many times a day do I now go to the bathroom??  I just noticed that I put my underwear on inside out and I'm halfway through the day.  You would think that I would've noticed earlier!  Not a biggie but I just think it's funny I didn't notice until a few minutes ago.

KelseyKetchum

Ok wow I've been super but at work sorry this reply is late. So the only addiction I am talking about is illegal drug addiction. Prescription drugs, alcohol, eating disorders those are things affected by other events and are not ILLEGAL. But I do understand what he went through it was hard not to turn on the TV and ignore it. Also I have had many family members and friends struggle with illegal drug addiction. And I do blame them for this fact- these drugs are illegal for a reason and when someone chooses to break this law and take the drug they are making a choice to possibly being addiction and dying from that. I have a best friend known her since we were born (two days apart) and she got into drugs then got pregnant. Her and her bf cleaned up and had the baby but they decided to have one more hit and he died she almost did and the baby was left unattended to for 12 hours (a newborn). That is just one person in my life (i have had quite a few close family members in addiction and two have died) and I do blame them for making that choice to take that drug and risk everything for one high that takes it all away. I'm not preaching or being high and mighty I had alcohol addiction in college to the point I also have nights I will never remember and bruises in places I can't and don't want to explain. So in close I am sorry for his family and those close to him for their loss that is never easy, but I am not sympathetic for him he made the choice to take that drug the first time what happened after may have not been in his control but that first action was.

If I missed responding to anything sorry there were a lot of posts in response and I read them all and tried to hit the main points.

TimeToReplaceTheCatsWithABaby

SweetSouthernMomma08 said:

hckygrl909 said:

I'm seriously contemplating throwing away the bargain tp that H bought - my delicate lady bits can't handle that sandpaper crap.

Only angel soft is allowed in our house. Soft but not soft enough to leave toilet paper lint balls in your crevices.

I HATE Angel Soft.  I  can't stand the lotiony feel!  BLECH!  I'm ALL about some Charmin Ultra Strong.  That stuff is dreamy.....

We're TP soul mates

esf60

@KelseyKetchum how is abusing illegal drugs any different from abusing prescription drugs, in your mind? Both are illegal, but that's beside the point. There was some emotional issue or problem that led the individual to turn to substances as a way to cope with pain. It's usually a private, unspoken pain that they don't know how to fix. It's very sad to me that you don't have sympathy for these people.

MarieC78

KelseyKetchum said:

Ok wow I've been super but at work sorry this reply is late. So the only addiction I am talking about is illegal drug addiction. Prescription drugs, alcohol, eating disorders those are things affected by other events and are not ILLEGAL. But I do understand what he went through it was hard not to turn on the TV and ignore it. Also I have had many family members and friends struggle with illegal drug addiction. And I do blame them for this fact- these drugs are illegal for a reason and when someone chooses to break this law and take the drug they are making a choice to possibly being addiction and dying from that. I have a best friend known her since we were born (two days apart) and she got into drugs then got pregnant. Her and her bf cleaned up and had the baby but they decided to have one more hit and he died she almost did and the baby was left unattended to for 12 hours (a newborn). That is just one person in my life (i have had quite a few close family members in addiction and two have died) and I do blame them for making that choice to take that drug and risk everything for one high that takes it all away. I'm not preaching or being high and mighty I had alcohol addiction in college to the point I also have nights I will never remember and bruises in places I can't and don't want to explain. So in close I am sorry for his family and those close to him for their loss that is never easy, but I am not sympathetic for him he made the choice to take that drug the first time what happened after may have not been in his control but that first action was. If I missed responding to anything sorry there were a lot of posts in response and I read them all and tried to hit the main points.

Got it, only become addicted to legal substances.

I have tried so hard to stay away from this subject, but with a brother that loves his daughter more than anything that lets his addictive personality and drug abuse take first seat...I DO feel sorry for him. Being clean in prison for several years and then relapsing goes to show the hold that addiction has on a person. The feeling of that high you're always needing will NEVER go away.

I've really got no idea where I was going with this, I just felt defensive for my family and everything that we've gone through. Legal or illegal, the grip that addiction has on a person isn't a choice.

KelseyKetchum

Prescription drug addiction can stem from depending on them for medical reasons in the beginning and then not being able to cope without. And I am not looking to make my comment or thought acceptable that is why I put it up on FFFC day. I understand this Hirt feelings and for that I apologize but no I have no sympathy for that person, there are other ways to deal with silent pain otherwise many more people would be using drugs.

esf60

@KelseyKetchum so I guess you think the only people who get addicted to narcotic painkillers were prescribed them for back surgeries and knee replacements? Logic has failed you.

KELLILOVESJOSH

tarashea721 said:

BeachMommy2B said:

tarashea721 said:

gwinnygirl said:

tarashea721 said:

While at babies r us, I heard a little girl (around 5) say "oh em gee mom, I def love pink and totes want this bike" and I turned around to look and thought "she must have older sisters"....until the mom said "oh em gee!!! I l-o-v-e it. Your dad is totes gonna be mad but were getting it".....


I felt terrible. I judged. Badly....

I probably would have laughed out loud at that.

I had the deer in headlights look. Lmao.

If I thought the mom was obviously just joking with the little girl I probably would have thought it was cute.

If I thought it was serious, and probably the way the mom talks to her all the time, I would have also had a blank stare on my face.

It was absolutely serious. She was wearing one of those pink juicy sweat suits with white furry boots. Fake tan...the whole 9 yards. And she jumped up and down when she was excited. Lol.

We homeschool. My child writes a page in a journal everyday. Today the topic was hobbies. She said " I totes love arts and crafts because it is so much fun to make pretty things" I made her erase totes. I'm bad about saying oh my god but it's usually in reference to something serious..like oh my god! did you really poop on my rug? ( this could be directed at my dog or my toddler) both have happened recently.

kittyh8r

KelseyKetchum said:

Prescription drug addiction can stem from depending on them for medical reasons in the beginning and then not being able to cope without. And I am not looking to make my comment or thought acceptable that is why I put it up on FFFC day. I understand this Hirt feelings and for that I apologize but no I have no sympathy for that person, there are other ways to deal with silent pain otherwise many more people would be using drugs.

This is disgusting. I can't even...No sympathy? None? 

You need some compassion. BAD. 

ETA: To add that people don't seek out addiction. You never know what leads someone to choose a substance. You never know what is going on in someone's life that brings them to the point of drug use. I cannot wrap my head around having no sympathy for someone who loses their life because they most likely just wanted to numb some pain. 

I am dreading the day that I will get a phone call that my brother is dead. If he doesn't clean up his act, he will end up dead. He is a stupid 28 year old who makes a million bad choices. You probably have no sympathy for him. Our mom died when he was 14 and I was 9, my dad was a raging alcoholic and beat the crap out of us until we were able to leave. My brother is stuck at 14 because he was never shown how to grow up. He makes choices like a 14 year old. Luckily I had family step in for me at 16, or who knows what would have happened to me. 

I am not telling you this for sympathy, but so you have an idea of the kind of background you're missing out on. I don't need to know all these things about someone's past to have sympathy for them. I know most people don't wake up and think "hey, let's go get addicted to something today."

BeachMommy2B

tarashea721 said:

BeachMommy2B said:

tarashea721 said:

gwinnygirl said:

tarashea721 said:

While at babies r us, I heard a little girl (around 5) say "oh em gee mom, I def love pink and totes want this bike" and I turned around to look and thought "she must have older sisters"....until the mom said "oh em gee!!! I l-o-v-e it. Your dad is totes gonna be mad but were getting it".....


I felt terrible. I judged. Badly....

I probably would have laughed out loud at that.

I had the deer in headlights look. Lmao.

If I thought the mom was obviously just joking with the little girl I probably would have thought it was cute.

If I thought it was serious, and probably the way the mom talks to her all the time, I would have also had a blank stare on my face.

It was absolutely serious. She was wearing one of those pink juicy sweat suits with white furry boots. Fake tan...the whole 9 yards. And she jumped up and down when she was excited. Lol.

Oh geeez! Yea there is nothing cute about that. Poor little girl X_X

MarieC78

KelseyKetchum said:

Prescription drug addiction can stem from depending on them for medical reasons in the beginning and then not being able to cope without. And I am not looking to make my comment or thought acceptable that is why I put it up on FFFC day. I understand this Hirt feelings and for that I apologize but no I have no sympathy for that person, there are other ways to deal with silent pain otherwise many more people would be using drugs.

yeah... that last sentence blows my mind. You'd be surprised to find out who has used some serious drugs. There are many other ways to deal with silent pain, all equally destructive, painful and life threatening. meh... I'm going home for the day, and this conversation is annoying.

frankierokx

KelseyKetchum said:

Prescription drug addiction can stem from depending on them for medical reasons in the beginning and then not being able to cope without. And I am not looking to make my comment or thought acceptable that is why I put it up on FFFC day. I understand this Hirt feelings and for that I apologize but no I have no sympathy for that person, there are other ways to deal with silent pain otherwise many more people would be using drugs.

You have no idea why I was addicted to prescribed medications, I went through a horrible time in my life and you seem very lucky not to have gone through anything like this. You have no idea what you are talking about so just stop, please just stop while you are ahead of yourself. 

You are the first person to ever make it on my post it. 

nofcksgiven

KelseyKetchum said:

Prescription drug addiction can stem from depending on them for medical reasons in the beginning and then not being able to cope without. And I am not looking to make my comment or thought acceptable that is why I put it up on FFFC day. I understand this Hirt feelings and for that I apologize but no I have no sympathy for that person, there are other ways to deal with silent pain otherwise many more people would be using drugs.

This post actually makes me want to cry a little.
You make me sick.
I hope to God that you never have to say goodbye to someone you love because they were addicted to ILLEGAL drugs.

Enjoy the view from your high horse.

blainethetrain

Yeah. There are a couple of threads going on today that are really getting my dander up. I'm thankful that Fridays are my therapy appointment days, because I really need to rage out to an impartial person. So disgusted right now.