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  • CurlyQ284CurlyQ284 member
    edited September 2013

    @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.

    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.
    I didn't make enough milk and when people say this its like I have to give them the phone numbers to my LC, DSs pedi and my doctor to prove my case "no REALLY. I REALLY didn't make enough milk.". I've been questioned on it before and it really sucks.

    YOU think its OK to formula feed. Society can be a bitch about it. So people use excuses to make it easier on themselves. I hate any judgments about feeding babies honestly. Women who BF get judged too, it sucks.

    *edited because I didn't word it right the first time*
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  • Rach21 said:
    My UO: Beer tastes gross. I question the taste buds of whoever created it in the first place.

    On a side note, my DH drinks a beer every once in awhile, so I wanted to surprise him the other day (like, in June) with a new beer that he hadn't tried before. Samuel Adams limited edition something-something IPA. He didn't like it. Now I've had 5 bottles of beer that neither one of us is going to drink sitting in my fridge. I offered it to my BIL, but he's not interested in Sam Adams.

    DH bought that Westlerven or sumshit that was $80 for a six pack in limited worldwide release. Some Belgian monks make this stupid beer, and DH had to try it because you never know when you might be able to get it again. I took a sip. It tasted like a more refined version of the same shit beer he drinks.
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  • @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.
    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.
    I think it's sad that anyone even feels like they need to justify or make "excuses". It's the sanctimommy "that's an excuse" bullshit that perpetuates us judging each other for how we choose to feed our babies. This shouldn't even be a thing or a thought is anyone's mind.


    True story. I threw the Lactivist Nurse out of my room after DD2 was born when I raised the concern that I wasn't making much milk. She was all like, "Do you think mothers in Africa are concerned with how many ounces are coming out? There is no excuse for formula feeding."

    Um, really?

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  • @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.
    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.

    I think it's sad that anyone even feels like they need to justify or make "excuses". It's the sanctimommy "that's an excuse" bullshit that perpetuates us judging each other for how we choose to feed our babies. This shouldn't even be a thing or a thought is anyone's mind.


    This is much better than what I said. I'm having trouble bumping and working. My bumping is slacking guys, Ill try to focus more on this than working :) lol
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  • @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.
    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.
    I think it's sad that anyone even feels like they need to justify or make "excuses". It's the sanctimommy "that's an excuse" bullshit that perpetuates us judging each other for how we choose to feed our babies. This shouldn't even be a thing or a thought is anyone's mind.


    True story. I threw the Lactivist Nurse out of my room after DD2 was born when I raised the concern that I wasn't making much milk. She was all like, "Do you think mothers in Africa are concerned with how many ounces are coming out? There is no excuse for formula feeding."

    Um, really?

    Lactivists be crazy.

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  • @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.
    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.
    I think it's sad that anyone even feels like they need to justify or make "excuses". It's the sanctimommy "that's an excuse" bullshit that perpetuates us judging each other for how we choose to feed our babies. This shouldn't even be a thing or a thought is anyone's mind.


    True story. I threw the Lactivist Nurse out of my room after DD2 was born when I raised the concern that I wasn't making much milk. She was all like, "Do you think mothers in Africa are concerned with how many ounces are coming out? There is no excuse for formula feeding."

    Um, really?

     

    Wow-- that's horrible.

    I can relate....I had a breast reduction in 2005 and I think I literally produced three drops of milk.  I knew that was a possibility before I DD was born, but I wanted to try BFing. 

    Anyway, it just wasn't happening, and the LC at the hospital kept insisting-- forcing a screaming DD up to my empty boob.  I finally ripped my hospital gown off (my dad was in the room--sorry dad) so that she could see my BR scars before she would drop it.


     

     

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  • I not only didn't produce enough milk I could only nurse on one side because no sucking or pumping got milk out even though it would leak like crazy. We supplemented, but it killed me because everyone would say aren't you sad you don't have that bonding time. What bonding time we spent 5 min just getting her to latch then I had the fast let down that would 95% of the time cause her to choke then cry repeat to get her latched only for her to get frustrated she wasn't getting anything and me almost in tears. Yet I kept at it for 4 months before I finally said f*ck the judgy moms I'm doing all formula.

    I think this might be my to emotional topic!


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  • @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.

    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.
    I think judgements like this perpetuate a need for moms to have a need for "excuses". Being a new mom is terrifying and I think we can all relate to wanting what's best for our kid. If you think your baby is starving because of your supply I'm guessing most moms are going to try and feed their kid through whatever means possible. Whether or not their supply is an issue is trivial.

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  • @itsallgravy here is my UO from a couple of weeks ago.
    i think too many women say that they don't make enough milk as an excuse for not breastfeeding. i think it's okay to formula feed and you should just own it and say "i tried, but it wasn't for me".  formula does not equal poison or sub-par parenting.
    I think it's sad that anyone even feels like they need to justify or make "excuses". It's the sanctimommy "that's an excuse" bullshit that perpetuates us judging each other for how we choose to feed our babies. This shouldn't even be a thing or a thought is anyone's mind.
    while i fully admit that i can be a bit of a sanctimommy when it comes to breastfeeding, this is actually what i was trying to say.

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  • scoutkate said:

    I've kind of obsessed with cider right now.  I've never been a big beer fan, especially not fancy beer.  I don't even know if cider is considered beer.  But it might just be the best thing I've ever tasted. (There's probably an UO in there somewhere).

     

    Ooh-- me too!  I love Woopecker Pear Cider-- it's so light and crisp tasting.

     

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  • scoutkate said:

    I've kind of obsessed with cider right now.  I've never been a big beer fan, especially not fancy beer.  I don't even know if cider is considered beer.  But it might just be the best thing I've ever tasted. (There's probably an UO in there somewhere).

    Angry Orchard is the shit!!  I love that stuff!! 
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  • msd-rdg said:
    scoutkate said:

    I've kind of obsessed with cider right now.  I've never been a big beer fan, especially not fancy beer.  I don't even know if cider is considered beer.  But it might just be the best thing I've ever tasted. (There's probably an UO in there somewhere).

    Angry Orchard is the shit!!  I love that stuff!! 
    Redds Apple Ale is better than Angry Orchard. /gavel
    I've never had Redds, I'll have to look for it next time.
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  • scoutkate said:

    I've kind of obsessed with cider right now.  I've never been a big beer fan, especially not fancy beer.  I don't even know if cider is considered beer.  But it might just be the best thing I've ever tasted. (There's probably an UO in there somewhere).

    Cider is amazeballs.

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  • kiraliz2 said:
    I think mom and baby yoga sounds like the dumbest thing ever.
    I think it's a nice concept for those moms who don't have a sitter and want to do yoga.  I don't know the logistics of it, because I never tried it.


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  • scoutkate said:

    I've kind of obsessed with cider right now.  I've never been a big beer fan, especially not fancy beer.  I don't even know if cider is considered beer.  But it might just be the best thing I've ever tasted. (There's probably an UO in there somewhere).

    My husband just brought home a pear and blackberry cider, the brand Foxbarrel. It was so delicious. I accidentally had 4 while we played backgammon on Saturday night. Yes, we live on the edge.
  • verticgm said:
    scoutkate said:

    I've kind of obsessed with cider right now.  I've never been a big beer fan, especially not fancy beer.  I don't even know if cider is considered beer.  But it might just be the best thing I've ever tasted. (There's probably an UO in there somewhere).

    My husband just brought home a pear and blackberry cider, the brand Foxbarrel. It was so delicious. I accidentally had 4 while we played backgammon on Saturday night. Yes, we live on the edge.
    Listen, backgammon is intense. Sometimes you need something to help you relax and unwind after a tough roll of the die.
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  • Listen, backgammon is intense. Sometimes you need something to help you relax and unwind after a tough roll of the die.
    Preach on, sister, preach on. There may have been a few...heated debates...due to our backgammon rivalry. We have an on-going score we keep for household domination.
  • verticgm said:

    Listen, backgammon is intense. Sometimes you need something to help you relax and unwind after a tough roll of the die.
    Preach on, sister, preach on. There may have been a few...heated debates...due to our backgammon rivalry. We have an on-going score we keep for household domination.

    I hear you. I am so competitive, I have to top DH in EVERYTHING. Except secks. I like to be on the bottom for that.
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  • BoatsNHoesBoatsNHoes member
    edited September 2013

    I have two UOs related to BFing:


    1) I think women should trust their bodies more.  I can see how being a lactation nurse can be frustrating because you are constantly having to remind a nervous new mom that her body can do what it is supposed to do.  There is so much guess work with BFing.  You don't know what your baby is getting, the whole thing is new and foreign to you plus painful.  The baby cries a lot.  They have to learn to BF too.  I think the message a lot of them want to send is that it's all normal and doesn't mean BFing doesn't work for you.  It does work if you trust the process and don't get all freaked out that your baby must be starving and you need formula because you only pumped two ounces, etc etc etc.  That said, I do think there are instances where women simply don't produce enough.  My SIL ended up using a lot of my milk because I swear my nephew was literally sucking her dry.  It was like her body couldn't keep up with him, it was crazy.

    2). Lactation nurses are NOT lactation consultants.  They are registered nurses with special training in lactation and probably no more info than they teach in BFing classes for new mothers.  I honestly think some of them think they are special or some shit and I don't get why they just want to be bitchy and judgy instead of educate women and help them through the very stressful process of learning this shit.  I seriously almost put an elbow into one's throat after she squeezed the fuck out of my chapped nipple.   Cunt.  Go pass your Motrin and get the hell outta my face!
    My mom is an IBCLC and they get this terrible reputation for being "nipple nazis" or whatever. It's their job to give judgement free encouragement, ideas and information to moms who want it. I personally never used formula but it saves lives, so I don't understand the formula hate in most cases.

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  • I have two UOs related to BFing:

    1) I think women should trust their bodies more.  I can see how being a lactation nurse can be frustrating because you are constantly having to remind a nervous new mom that her body can do what it is supposed to do.  There is so much guess work with BFing.  You don't know what your baby is getting, the whole thing is new and foreign to you plus painful.  The baby cries a lot.  They have to learn to BF too.  I think the message a lot of them want to send is that it's all normal and doesn't mean BFing doesn't work for you.  It does work if you trust the process and don't get all freaked out that your baby must be starving and you need formula because you only pumped two ounces, etc etc etc.  That said, I do think there are instances where women simply don't produce enough.  My SIL ended up using a lot of my milk because I swear my nephew was literally sucking her dry.  It was like her body couldn't keep up with him, it was crazy.

    2). Lactation nurses are NOT lactation consultants.  They are registered nurses with special training in lactation and probably no more info than they teach in BFing classes for new mothers.  I honestly think some of them think they are special or some shit and I don't get why they just want to be bitchy and judgy instead of educate women and help them through the very stressful process of learning this shit.  I seriously almost put an elbow into one's throat after she squeezed the fuck out of my chapped nipple.   Cunt.  Go pass your Motrin and get the hell outta my face!
    yes.  your point #1 is where i get a little sanctimommy about breastfeeding. and this is where new moms hearing so many other moms say that they don't make enough milk can be discouraging during that highly emotional learning curve time.
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  • verticgm said:

    Listen, backgammon is intense. Sometimes you need something to help you relax and unwind after a tough roll of the die.
    Preach on, sister, preach on. There may have been a few...heated debates...due to our backgammon rivalry. We have an on-going score we keep for household domination.

    I hear you. I am so competitive, I have to top DH in EVERYTHING. Except secks. I like to be on the bottom for that.
    Hahahahaha...DH is an engineer and all mathy so I don't stand much of a chance but I put up a helluva fight.

    But you lost me at bottom for the secksy time...Ride 'em, cowgirl, all the way!
  • jack19 said:

    i've been doing it for years and its wicked simple.  All you need is a brew bucket, like $15 on amazon, cider and yeast.  If you add brown sugar or honey it will up the alcohol content and in my book this is absolutely necessary.  anyway I make a 5 gallon batch that lasts me all winter and if you don't drink it all the shit just gets better and better with age
    Sounds delicious but I feel like I be the one person who ends up accidentally giving herself botulism by doing this.
  • Rage against the BB machine @kiraliz2.


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  • I neither FF or BF.... no what.....


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  • I have two UOs related to BFing:

    1) I think women should trust their bodies more.  I can see how being a lactation nurse can be frustrating because you are constantly having to remind a nervous new mom that her body can do what it is supposed to do.  There is so much guess work with BFing.  You don't know what your baby is getting, the whole thing is new and foreign to you plus painful.  The baby cries a lot.  They have to learn to BF too.  I think the message a lot of them want to send is that it's all normal and doesn't mean BFing doesn't work for you.  It does work if you trust the process and don't get all freaked out that your baby must be starving and you need formula because you only pumped two ounces, etc etc etc.  That said, I do think there are instances where women simply don't produce enough.  My SIL ended up using a lot of my milk because I swear my nephew was literally sucking her dry.  It was like her body couldn't keep up with him, it was crazy.

    2). Lactation nurses are NOT lactation consultants.  They are registered nurses with special training in lactation and probably no more info than they teach in BFing classes for new mothers.  I honestly think some of them think they are special or some shit and I don't get why they just want to be bitchy and judgy instead of educate women and help them through the very stressful process of learning this shit.  I seriously almost put an elbow into one's throat after she squeezed the fuck out of my chapped nipple.   Cunt.  Go pass your Motrin and get the hell outta my face!
    yes.  your point #1 is where i get a little sanctimommy about breastfeeding. and this is where new moms hearing so many other moms say that they don't make enough milk can be discouraging during that highly emotional learning curve time.


    Well, I stuck with it for 8 weeks, BF DD2 first before FF her each and every motherfucking time, and never pumped more than 1 ounce out of either boob. I loved the act of BF my girls. I didn't make enough, and could have done without the judgment.

    IDGAF what worked for other mommies. More power to them.

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  • I never had any intentions to breastfeed. 

    They plopped my kid on my chest after delivery and he immediately latched and started drinking like a pro and I thought it was the most awesome thing ever. Everything fell to shit after that and I ended up formula feeding - but I really  wish breastfeeding had worked out for me and if I ever had another I would be more prepared and definitely try again.

    But up until I had him, I had no intentions of BF or making excuses for why I wasn't BFing. I just didn't want to do it. I think that's a fine enough reason and fuck anyone who doesn't agree. Cheers!
    This was me exactly.
  • Rule #1: feed the baby. End. Of. Story.

    I'm quoting this just in case you were really concerned about how other people feed their children, Brandi.


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  • Kilt Ewan wants the judging to stop.

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  • Oh, I have one.  I should be able to nudge my toddler in a different direction without her falling down dramatically and then screeching loudly enough to wake her brother.  I think it's nap time.

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