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Drinking during pregnancy is good for baby

Study: Light drinking may be good for unborn baby

Study: Light drinking during pregnancy is fine

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Relax and have a glass, mama. It's good for you.

According to a study released today in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, mothers who drink lightly do not increase the risk of socioemotional problems or cognitive deficits in their children up to age 5.

In fact, researchers found children born to mothers who drank lightly actually did better than their cohorts born to teetotal mothers. Children born to light drinkers were less likely to have hyperactivity and difficulties while scoring higher on cognitive tests. According to the abstract:

Boys and girls born to light drinkers were less likely to have high total difficulties (for boys 6.6% vs 9.6%, OR=0.67, for girls 4.3% vs 6.2%, OR=0.69) and hyperactivity (for boys 10.1% vs 13.4%, OR=0.73, for girls 5.5% vs 7.6%, OR=0.71) scores compared with those born to mothers in the not-in-pregnancy group. These differences were attenuated on adjustment for confounding and mediating factors. Boys and girls born to light drinkers had higher mean cognitive test scores compared with those born to mothers in the not-in-pregnancy group: for boys, naming vocabulary (58 vs 55), picture similarities (56 vs 55) and pattern construction (52 vs 50), for girls naming vocabulary (58 vs 56) and pattern construction (53 vs 52). Differences remained statistically significant for boys in naming vocabulary and picture similarities.

Light drinking was defined as one or two drinks per week or per occasion.

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Re: Drinking during pregnancy is good for baby

  • I heard RED WINE only

      
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  • Oh, TTT. Stirring the pot today, are we? 

    (BTW, I agree, red wine is no biggie in pregnancy. The problem is that Americans, including myself, have no idea what "moderation" really means.) 

  • Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders are 100% preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.  There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.  There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink and no safe kind of alcohol.

    Source: the CDC

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

     

    ETA: I don't really care what people do, it's their choice and their bodies. But it's hardly a clear cut issue. For me, not even close to the risk. It's nine lousy months, I can hold off.

     

  • PPC - I didn't know you were KU again - congratulations!!!

    I guess my occasional glass of wine explains why Sam is so brilliant:Wink

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  • When I was having pre-term labor with DS I finally gave myself a little (and I mean, little) red wine and it actually helped.  Better than the meds they gave me.  I wouldn't drink in 1st tri--but I think especially in early 3rd tri it's ok on occassion.  Although I have heard that too late in the pregnancy can hurt going in to labor (as in stops it)
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    PPC - I didn't know you were KU again - congratulations!!!

    I guess my occasional glass of wine explains why Sam is so brilliant:Wink

    Thanks!!

    Sam is so freaking adorable! And brilliant too, I am sure :-)  

  • image ambrandau2:

    Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders are 100% preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.  There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.  There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink and no safe kind of alcohol.

    Source: the CDC

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

     


    There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.   There is now. According to this study, a safe amount is about a glass a week. 

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  • TTT, I missed you! (old nestie/bumpie, new name) Wink
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    TTT, I missed you! (old nestie/bumpie, new name) Wink

    Hmmm I suspected this.

     

    I am very curious as to who you are.

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    Unless of course you are trying to go incognito.  

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    Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders are 100% preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.  There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.  There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink and no safe kind of alcohol.

    Source: the CDC

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

     


    There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.   There is now. According to this study, a safe amount is about a glass a week. 

    I guess you should go ahead and alert the CDC then. 

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    TTT, I missed you! (old nestie/bumpie, new name) Wink

    Hmmm I suspected this.

     

    I am very curious as to who you are.

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    Unless of course you are trying to go incognito.  

    Incognito, yes.  Do I know you? Most definitely Stick out tongue

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    image ambrandau2:

    Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders are 100% preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.  There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.  There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink and no safe kind of alcohol.

    Source: the CDC

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

     


    There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.   There is now. According to this study, a safe amount is about a glass a week. 

    What is "about" a glass a week, though? That's just not really conclusive enough for me.

     

  • FAS is always realted to "heavy" drinking during pregnancy.  I personally stopped drinking during 1st tri, but I have no problem with a glass of wine every week or two starting soon.

    It was fine for our mothers to drink during pregnancy and most of us turned out just fine.  I do understand that some people can't have just one glass or don't understand moderation so stopping completely makes the most sense for them.

  • image ambrandau2:

    Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders are 100% preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.  There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.  There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink and no safe kind of alcohol.

    Source: the CDC

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

     

    ETA: I don't really care what people do, it's their choice and their bodies. But it's hardly a clear cut issue. For me, not even close to the risk. It's nine lousy months, I can hold off.

    This is kind of like saying car accidents are 100% preventable by not getting into or driving a car. Well, yeah...

    At any rate, there is currently zero evidence that light drinking is bad for baby and there is now some evidence that light drinking is actually good for baby, so I hope the "OMG WHY CAN'T YOU JUST NOT DRINK DON'T YOU LOVE YOUR BABY??" can stop.

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    Oh, TTT. Stirring the pot today, are we?

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    Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders are 100% preventable if a woman does not drink alcohol during pregnancy.  There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.  There is also no safe time during pregnancy to drink and no safe kind of alcohol.

    Source: the CDC

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

     


    There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.   There is now. According to this study, a safe amount is about a glass a week. 

    I guess you should go ahead and alert the CDC then. 

    I think it is important to understand that the CDC is making the recommendation based on (a) our historical inability to comprehend the notion of "moderation," and (b) a lack of studies monitoring women who have occasional small servings of alcohol. This is a study that does just that. 

    There are no studies that demonstrate harm to fetuses when pregnant women have occasional small servings of alcohol. Conversely, there are numerous studies demonstrating serious harm from frequent consumption of alcohol or occasional binge drinking. This is why the CDC makes its recommendation.

    Also - the definition of a small serving is given in the study - it's not at all vague.

     

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  • For all those who have "heard" red wine is OK- why red and not white?
     
  • My Dr. actually recommends the occasional glass of wine in the 2nd/3rd trimesters. She believes it helps reduce the stress level in Mom leading up to delivery.  God, I love that woman.
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  • Interesting.

    My last OB was completely okay with one small glass of wine per week in the 3rd tri.   

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  • What I find funny with this debate is that studies have found morning sickness is your bodies way of protecting the fetus from toxins (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356638,00.html) before I knew I was pregnant, I had a small glass of champagne, followed by a lot of food, I was nauseus after, and puked, and all that came up was the alcohol. I take it as my body rejecting it. But then again, it is the first trimester...

     I'm not going to drink now that I now- but I don't frown on women who have the occasional drink while pg. If I use mouthwash with alcohol or there's a little in my food at a restaurant I'm not going to worry about it. 

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    For all those who have "heard" red wine is OK- why red and not white?

    Red wine has been shown to have positive effects on the heart. I think that might have something to do with the reasoning behind it??

    ETA: My doctor just said any old kind of wine was fine. Stay away from booze and beer, obvs.

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  • Man, I can't wait until alcohol sounds good. I feel like I've had a constant hangover for about 4 weeks so at this point, I'm never drinking again :)  I had a glass of red wine/beer here and there in my 3rd tri with DS and I'll probably do the same with this one...if I ever feel better.
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  • As someone who works with FASE kids all day long, there is NO way I would even chance it.  Knowing what we don't know about brain development and the effects of alcohol, how could anybody be that careless to WILLINGLY partake in an activity that could have permanent, life altering implications for your child.  I completely disagree that any alcohol (red wine) is safe.
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     before I knew I was pregnant, I had a small glass of champagne, followed by a lot of food, I was nauseus after, and puked, and all that came up was the alcohol. I take it as my body rejecting it.  

    You're conflating correlation and causation.  Also, I'm curious about how you know it was alcohol.  You didn't test your puke, did you?  Do you really think your body is capable of separating individual ingredients and only getting rid of what it doesn't want?

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  • As someone who works with FAE kids all day long, there is NO way I would even chance it.  Knowing what we don't know about brain development and the effects of alcohol, how could anybody be that careless to WILLINGLY partake in an activity that could have permanent, life altering implications for your child.  I completely disagree that any alcohol (red wine) is safe.
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    As someone who works with FAE kids all day long, there is NO way I would even chance it.  Knowing what we don't know about brain development and the effects of alcohol, how could anybody be that careless to WILLINGLY partake in an activity that could have permanent, life altering implications for your child.  I completely disagree that any alcohol (red wine) is safe.

    You disagree based on what? Just how you feel? Or do you have some research to back it up?

     

    And, tons of things you willingly partake in can have "permanent, life altering implications for your child." Like, driving in a car (and getting in an accident).

     

    I didn't drink while pregnant, and I more than likely won't in the future. Thats my perogative. But the logic fails in this thread are why I probably, also, won't come back to 1st tri. I think my head will explode.

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    As someone who works with FASE kids all day long, there is NO way I would even chance it.  Knowing what we don't know about brain development and the effects of alcohol, how could anybody be that careless to WILLINGLY partake in an activity that could have permanent, life altering implications for your child.  I completely disagree that any alcohol (red wine) is safe.

    So there's no amount of scientific evidence that would convince you that light drinking during pregnancy is OK?

    How is it careless to do something that has scientifically shown to be safe?

    And if light drinking during pregnancy is not only not harmful but is actually beneficial, isn't it actually riskier NOT to drink because you're risking losing those benefits? Shouldn't we be criticizing and judging the women who *don't* drink a glass of wine each week because they're denying their child the benefits of light drinking and dooming them to hyperactivity disorders? 

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  • image darmca:

    What I find funny with this debate is that studies have found morning sickness is your bodies way of protecting the fetus from toxins (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356638,00.html) before I knew I was pregnant, I had a small glass of champagne, followed by a lot of food, I was nauseus after, and puked, and all that came up was the alcohol. I take it as my body rejecting it. But then again, it is the first trimester...

     I'm not going to drink now that I now- but I don't frown on women who have the occasional drink while pg. If I use mouthwash with alcohol or there's a little in my food at a restaurant I'm not going to worry about it. 

    It's one article - one study - which looks at correlation - not causation at all in this study.

    I was on my second glass of WHITE wine when I decided to take my pg test - BFP. Took a second test and had a few more sips waiting. Unfortunately my body had no problem with it. I really hope I'm not broken or my blastocyst wasn't showing early signs of alcoholism.

     
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    For all those who have "heard" red wine is OK- why red and not white?

    Red wine has been shown to have positive effects on the heart. I think that might have something to do with the reasoning behind it??

    ETA: My doctor just said any old kind of wine was fine. Stay away from booze and beer, obvs.

     

    Really?  Beer has the same amount of alcohol as wine, obvs.

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