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  • Genuine question and mild rant: my best friend is getting bad breastfeeding advice at the hospital by the nurses and lactation consultant (I don't know if the LC is an IBCLC or not). But I am really worried that if I say, hey friend, I'm concerned you're not being given good evidence based advice and it may harm your breastfeeding journey, that she will discount me as being critical over the advice of the "professionals". I have breastfed 3 children for a combined 6 years and am part of a BFing support group community, so while I'm biased I think I give pretty good advice. But if it were you, as a FTM, would you trust the LC and nurses more, or your best friend? I don't want her to feel criticized at all because I don't think she's doing anything wrong, I just think she's getting bad advice. Like for example, they told her she has a shockingly good pump output of colostrum day 1. So good in fact they told her she should send him to the nursery all night his first night so she could get some sleep "since clearly her supply was great".... and now they say she needs to supplement with formula because the baby is "too sleepy" at literally 36 hrs old.  I'm sorry what? This is a basic supply and demand issue. If she wanted him to go to the nursery because she was exhausted that's fine, its her baby. But do not tell her she can sleep all night and her milk supply won't be affected because it ain't true, and especially now that she slept all night and you're telling her that her supply is down. No shit Sherlock. 
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  • edited September 5
    @thescarletmom I think for me, thinking back as a FTM, it would depend on my experience with medical providers and my relationship with my friend. I’m fortunate that as a FTM, I had good medical care, but I had heard so many horrible stories from loved ones that I was fully prepared to advocate for myself and go against advice from a medical professional if it didn’t jive with me. I also personally had done a butt ton of research on breastfeeding (but that’s my personality. If I want something I will research the bejeezus out of it until I am dizzy), so that advice your friend received would have given me red flags.

    If I were in your shoes, I would talk to your friend and make it very much based on your personal experience and express concern, while also emphasizing your friend’s autonomy to maker her own choice (again, my personality is very hands off with advice). Which it sounds like you are very much pro-choices for your friend and just want her to be fully informed! Because you are a good friend!

    I might say something like, “that advice sounds really counter-intuitive to my personal experiences and what I have heard from professionals. I have concerns with what you’re being told. I’d be happy to talk more about it if you want, but I also respect your choices.”

    I don’t know if that helps at all, but I hope your friend is doing ok and enjoys her newborn!
  • @midnightatsunset ugh I totally think she should do what's best for her 😭 she definitely is not as jaded by medical experiences as I have been, and she's come to me for pump and breastfeeding advice but I don't know. I get the impression that she *wants* to breastfeed, but I also know she's not like, super super committed to it because she has a lot of family who have struggled to breastfeed. So I just worry I might come across as too intense because breastfeeding was extremely important to me and so I know a ton about it. I have zero thoughts or feelings about what other people think is best for them, but I have MANY thoughts and feelings about moms who *want* to breastfeed being unsupported or given bad advice that leads to their journey ending. I responded to her text earlier and she's read it but hasn't responded to me, and maybe she's just busy, but I feel like maybe I made her feel bad but asking why they told her to supplement formula if she had a good supply. Ugh! I think I'll just give her some space to figure things out.
  • @thescarletmom I think best friends should be able to talk about anything so I would say something if you think their advice is bad. I have had struggles with breastfeeding supply and have got tons of bad advice from LCs. I think lots of LCs are full of it.
  • edited September 5
    @thescarletmom That is awful advice. Baby should be at her breast at all times. If baby isn’t nursing she needs to be doing skin to skin. Baby absolutely should never be taken to the nursery. The first 36 hours is very important because her milk won’t come in if baby doesn’t cluster feed. I would tell her to join whatever community you are in for more updated breastfeeding advice. This will impact her supply in a negative way moving forward. 

    I highly highly recommend any mamas who have never breastfed or wasn’t successful and wants to try again to get a book that details in the ins and outs of breastfeeding. Bonus if the book contains a troubleshooting chapter. I used one for my second baby and it was beside me through the newborn phase so I could refer to it while latching and for our other issues we had. 

    ETA link of a good book

    https://a.co/d/hVGpmKd
  • @RoseShadow873 I definitely have heard just some of the worst advice ever from some "professionals" LCs, mother baby nurses, peds... my first nursing journey was almost entirely ruined by terrible hospital staff and professionals who insisted they knew best. So frustrating. I just know this is such a vulnerable time for a brand new mom and don't want to be overbearing.

    @emeraldcity603 I'm glad to hear this advice is off to other moms too... I was worried I was being dramatic. I did invite her to the community and told her about a great in-person support group that meets near us. I'm just worried about what other shitty advice they might be giving her today. 
  • My nausea is practically gone but the fatigue just won’t stop. Maybe it any age. My last pregnancy was hard and I was 39. I’m 41 now so I’m expecting to just be more tired. Holy cow! This is next level tired. I can’t function. 

    Also, why did I just order ice cream, chocolate milk, and popcorn to be delivered? Ugh, I do not want to gain a ton of weight. 🙄
  • Annnnd they told her that he's burning too many calories nursing so he'll lose weight and that's why she needs to supplement 👍 grade A garbage. 

    @emeraldcity603 I honestly think being pregnant with toddlers/older kids is just really hard! But I do also think being older/subsequent pregnancies just get harder over time. I'm only 28 but being successfully pregnant a 4th time with a barely 2 year old running around is making me bone-tired. 

    But i say eat all the garbage as a celebration of kicking the nausea, then get back to normal eating habits! Being pregnant is hard, some popcorn and ice cream after bedtime is earned! 
  • Just have to rant here to people who get it, because my husband was like “calm down.” 😠 Over a week ago I scheduled my glucose test with labcorp. I went online, selected glucose tolerance test and then it gave me appt times. I chose 845. I showed up today at 820. Room full of people, nowhere to even sit. She calls me back at 850 and says we close at 930 so I can’t do your test. I’m like what?!?! She says can’t you just come back Monday? I’m like no I have a job. I have kids in school. I specifically scheduled this for a Saturday for a reason. I also have been here since 820 waiting, and your system let me schedule an appt. She said I know I’m not sure why it did that, but we still can’t do your test because again we close at 930, sorry. I did go online and submit patient experience feedback, but doubt it will do any good. So now I have to do it all over again and probably will need to schedule something and miss the first hour of work now. So irritating. 
  • @robinj716 Is there a reason you’re doing a glucose test so early? Isn’t it usually something you do through your provider? 
  • @robinj716 agree that I'm surprised it's so early, but regardless it's literally insane to let you schedule an appt, sit in the waiting room, then call you back and say sorry we can't do this procedure? After I presume you've fasted and done all the other things. That's so frustrating and I would be pissed too. What's the point of being open Saturday to close at 9:30 am 😑
  • @thescarletmom and @emeraldcity603
    I had gestational diabetes last pregnancy, so she’s requiring it early this time. Here they give us lab slips and then you have to go to a stand alone lab for blood and things of that nature. 
  • @robinj716 ugh so frustrating that the lab did that. Hopefully there's a time that's not too inconvenient for you to go back, but I always feel like experiences like that make me worried some new problem will pop up the next time and won't be communicated. 
  • Curious anyone’s thoughts on the car seats with wheels: IE: doona, evenflo shyft type. I’ve never had one, just used my CHICCO infant seat for both boys, but it expired and was tossed many years ago. I’ve read people love the Evenflo shyft better than Doona. I already have an extra CHICCO base and the key fit caddy (car seat snaps into for stroller type thing) so would just need a new bucket seat. But my thought since this is number 3, is that I’m going to be dropping DS1 and DS2 at daycare while on MAT leave. And I was thinking popping out the seat with wheels may be convenient for when I have to drop them into daycare and back to car versus lugging the seat. But I’m also here unable to justify the $600 cost for that little bit of convenience especially since I already have the caddy that I could snap the seat into. Thoughts ?! 
  • @robinj716 We got a Doona as a gift and it’s very convenient but I hate the lack of storage space so I don’t think it’s worth the price, especially since they outgrow it quickly.
  • @robinj716 I may be no help because I don’t really take my carseats out of the car at all unless it’s in the negatives and that’s just to keep the seat warm. I baby wear all the time. So baby comes out of the seat and into my carrier each time. I’m never dropping my kids off at daycare though so definitely not the same scenarios. I’m looking at a car seat that is baseless and just snaps right into the seat. The only downside is how heavy the car seat is. 

    Another option is get one of those strollers the car seat pops into super easy. I have used those occasionally and it would be much cheaper. I wonder how easy that car seat with wheels is to install. So every time you pop it out will you have to fiddle with it to get the right position/angle? I’m super particular about how my seats are installed. I don’t let anyone install my kid’s seats because no one does it right. That would be my only fear, does it install super easy each and every time with zero issues. Can other people unlock it and install it correctly? I guess maybe I’m thinking it’s not attached to a base. If it is, this may not even be an issue. How can it though with wheels? Clearly I have not looked into these so I don’t know these answers. 😅
  • @robinj716 I have never had a Doona or similar, but I have heard enough complaints about how heavy it is, that it makes it bulkier so tough in 3rd row SUVs without cramping leg room in front or behind it, the lack of storage, etc. I also personally (unless you plan on reselling it) wouldn't be able to justify a $600 on my last baby. There's a lot of convenience things that are new/newer with our 3rd/4th babies that if they had existed when we were having our first would have been an entirely different cost benefit analysis. So I'd take into account if this is your finale, too. And like @emeraldcity603, we usually babywore, especially with only one parent and a parking lot situation with 3 kids. We wanted to have empty hands to hold on to our big kids and not pushing a stroller. *All that to say* if you really want it and its financially feasible for you, I'd say do it. Everybody has different must-haves and essentials for their babies and pp, so I think if you consider all these things and think, yeah I still want it. No shame in going for it!
  • @robinj716 I haven't heard of carseats with pop out wheels before, but no way would I pay 600 dollars for a carseat. I only kept my babies on the infant seat a few months. I have had both the Chicco keyfit system and Graco stroller that fits the Graco infant seat, both those worked pretty well. 
  • @emeraldcity603 & @thescarletmom thanks for your input! Yes, apparently it has a base that it snaps into and the wheels just go up. It does look bulky in the car to me. But one big thing like mentioned was no storage. I do have the caddy already for the one seat that is just the frame and my car seat snaps into it. It’s got cup holders and a basket underneath. We don’t really go out all too often; I mean last time was Covid and we barely left the house. I do have a milk snob baby wrap that I didn’t get to use much with DS2 and I do want to use that a lot more. Realistically, I’m only dropping at daycare for one or two months. And then the baby will go too, so I’ll be leaving the car seat with. The more I’m thinking, the more I’m leaning towards just a basic CHICCO to use with the items I already have & spend that other money on better things! 
  • @robinj716 I highly recommend the Tula explore. It’s a more expensive version but so supportive and easy to use. I used to use wraps when I only had one baby and even a toddler and baby but it’s so much easier to just use a structured carrier. You don’t need an infant insert with the Tula either which is nice. I wouldn’t mind trying the ergo soft newborn carrier but it’s only usable for a few months before getting uncomfortable. 

    Anyways, I highly recommend the Tula. I have a few others too. Happy Baby is another loved brand. I have a linen one. 
  • @emeraldcity603 thank you! I found the wrap to be a little hard for the few times I used it. I just looked up Tula and it’s decent and more affordable. Someone in another group recommended one carrier that was over $600 😳. I’ll save the car seat money and buy a decent carrier! 😉 
  • @robinj716 Yeah, I don’t understand the need for such an expensive carrier. I have never been able to resell anything to recoup money when I have bought expensive stuff like that. It’s not worth it to me. 
  • @robinj716 let me guess, the artipoppe?? Sooo not worth the $$$ in my opinion.  Tulas are a bit wide in the waistband for my personal comfort because I'm so short/short torso'd, but we had two different styles of Happy Baby carriers and loved them! Also have a malama bebe carrier that I would say it pretty similar to the tula in fit. I'm thinking of trying a hope&plum lark with this baby but we will do solly wraps for the first few months because I have tiny babies and just don't like using a SSC with itty bitties personally.
  • @thescarletmom yes that is the one! She was dropping referral codes for it. I looked and said no thanks. My friend baby wears and has tons of good recommends for the different carriers too, so I have her knowledge as well! I’m def. Not using a $600 one LOL 

    @emeraldcity603 my friend will resell on Poshmark or Mercari, but she never gets nearly what she spent! 
  • edited September 9
    @robinj716 I cloth diapered with one of my kids and everyone said, “oh the resell easily.” Nope they don’t. I couldn’t recover hardly anything that I spent on covers. Plus it didn’t save us any money and once baby got solids it was nasty to deal with I had to throw in that towel. 
  • @emeraldcity603 yeah, we cloth diaper and I would never have bought second hand ones. Yuck. We just looked at it as an investment because we planned on having more than one kid. The ones we bought weren't overly expensive so for for sure saved money even just doing it for a year with our first 
  • @lizdiane456 When I was buying stuff there was an entire cloth diaper BST community. People resold liners too which I couldn’t get behind. I ended up buying the cheaper covers and they worked fine for us. The few expensive ones I got I ended up donating to another mom who wanted them. 
  • Someone I know posted a Tula carrier for sale for $20 in a local sell group. I messaged her and told her I’ll take it. She said I can have it for free since I gave her tons of free baby stuff last year! I’m not sure the condition, but it’s free So yay! Just figured since we chatted about carriers I’d share my news! I don’t have tons of friends to talk baby stuff with so y’all are it 😆 
  • Me again, because I have no life. There’s a deal on Amazon right now on a taco 🌮 footie zip up pajamas from Honest Company for $5. I was able to get 12 months and 24 months since that’s what was left. In case anyone wants a cute zip up! 
  • My 9yo watched the minecraft movie and apparently thought waterbeds were made up, and it was absolutely wild explaining to him that my older brother actually had a water bed when I was growing up lol
  • I have horrible memories about getting stuck in the sides of a waterbed. Plus, they are so stinking hard to sleep on. The water feels like a rock to me. 
  • @thescarletmom I had an '80s waterbed as a kid! It was so fun and comfortable. I think the sheets were a pain to change though. Luckily my mom made my bed back then.  :D
  • @emeraldcity603 my brothers waterbed was absolutely a death trap. Me and my younger siblings would mess around and get stuck, but I also remember trying to lay on it and thinking there was no way in sin that this was a comfortable way to sleep every night.

    @RoseShadow873 that's so funny, I absolutely despised it! I think it might be because I'm a firmer mattress/pillow kind of person. But it was my brother's bed and he clearly liked it enough! 
  • My in-laws still sleep on an old, dare I say, vintage waterbed. I do not know how they get on and off that thing. They bed share with my niece who is 3 and I think it is the most dangerous thing ever. 🤦🏻‍♀️
  • edited September 13
    A little late to this thread lol but I like the ergobaby carrier. Used it past a year old. I'll be using the same brand again for this baby for sure, I have the insert also. The soft carrier cloth wraps make me so nervous, I don't know why just a security thing. I tried one out for my first and hated it. The Tula carriers remind me of the original ergo styles. There are so many versions of the ergo specifically, I've tried almost every one.

    The Doona I was also considering, but I've since gravitated away from it due to price point, how heavy the reviews say it is, and the lack of storage. I've seen some here brand new on marketplace for $300-400, some people who were gifted them on their registry and got doubles so selling for half price, but even with that I'm still convinced may not be the best option as I will be the main one lifting once husband returns back to work. I used the baby trend all terrain with a snap and removable car seat, used well past a year since he was still within weight limit. Where I live I needed an all terrain and although it was a little heavy and bulky, I got used to it, had plenty of storage, so versatile and the wheels never got stuck. Use it to this day.

    Regarding BF advice, some women are impossible to get through once they've decided, and especially at that stage so delicate mentally I can see why you're a bit hesitant to give advice. My sister was one who definitely hated it, said it hurt, gave up, and resorted in the bottle. I was the complete opposite, but then again I have ample knowledge in the benefits, and mentally I was dedicated to not giving up. Most of the advice already given is right on par with what we know as mothers who have BF, and what I would recommended. She shouldn't be without the baby at all really this early and always be doing skin to skin for multiple reasons/benefits. I also agree with what someone said about best friends and being able to have safe spaces to relay concerns and advice. It's definitely an important time to say something now because the time is now not to give up and be persistent because breastfeeding isn't an easy journey in the beginning especially for a FTM. I don't know her personality type, if she is like my sister (stubborn) but if she's impressionable and can handle challenges and knows benefits, doesn't want to give up definitely worth speaking from the heart but not sound like an overbearing know it all, because I think that can definitely be annoying lol. She can also ask for another lactation consultant there are a ton out there, and not every one is created equally. Unrelated to the exact topic but I had a night nurse in my PP unit who was trying to put both my pain medications together to make her job easier/less visits instead of spacing them apart for better pain management coverage, and in the state I was in I was able to catch it and be like, "listen lady, this is what I noticed and this is what's happening, this is what I want, this is q4, this is q6 you're trying to put them together and that's not in my best interest for pain management, and when you come in here please be quiet, and ask and check when he was last fed first, my sleep is important". She was older, obnoxious, and rude I was so tired of it. Everytime she walked in she was purposely loud to wake up my newborn to make him nurse after he had already been fed and I had just gotten him down. She got to know me very quickly 😆in that state too, but she ultimately changed her tune and behavior. I had her for 2 nights 🙄. At my age and my personality type I'm also much more outspoken then when I was in my teens or twenties, so idk if she is that way but that also makes a difference in trying alternatives and different approaches. Does she have a BF pillow? 
  • @emeraldcity603 I cannot fathom bed sharing in a waterbed 💀 that made me a little nauseated to read, even if she's 3 years old. 

    @blossomingmama thank goodness, she is doing fantastic with breastfeeding. I waited until she got home with him to explain that some of the things they told her did not mesh with my knowledge and experience, and shared my recommendations. She's texted me almost every day for advice and has been such a trooper working through all the new mom breastfeeding challenges! She got her tiny guy to latch the other day and he did great, and I'm so proud of her just generally. Even if she didn't, I'd be proud of her for trying and listening to her own needs, but as someone who also was really committed to bfing personally, I'm so happy to be able to help her reach her goals. 
  • @thescarletmom some BF journeys are so difficult that it does take a really strong desire and determination to keep going. I had flat nipples and it was so painful. It took about 3 months to get into the swing of it with no pain. Then by baby 2 there was even less issues and now, after nursing on and off for 11 years, they just latch and go. I plan to turn away all the lactation consultants that walk into my room. 😂
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