PGAL 12/16

paytonpedro · December 2021

This thread is for those who are pregnant after a previous loss(es). TW for entire thread due to discussion of MC, TFMR, CP, etc.

Weeks/EDD?

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)?

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically?

Any appointment updates?

Any big milestones?

Rants/Raves/Questions?

maggiemadeit · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? Aug 23, 4+ weeks

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? After 2 healthy full term pregnancies, I had an early spontaneous loss in August. I didn’t even make it to 6 weeks. It was devastating. I couldn’t get medical care while it was happening because my daughter had COVID at the time and our house was in a 21 day quarantine. Once we were cleared I had a very traumatic follow-up appointment with my OBGYN, so bad that I changed providers. I could never go back into that office again.

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically? I’m a wreck. I just can’t get over the feeling that this one might turn out the same. I am still peeing on sticks (I know, I know, step away from the HPT), and every day I worry that I’m not seeing enough progress, even though I know that HPT are not quantitative. I am looking for reassurance on a pee stick and I am not finding it.

Any appointment updates? No appointment until 10+ weeks. I asked if they would see me earlier or run bloodwork because of the previous loss, but they said no, because it was just one loss and likely not a recurrent problem.

Any big milestones? No.

Rants/Raves/Questions? My husband is not a big ‘talk about things’ kind of dude, but last night he told me he has been worrying too. He keeps having his recurring stress dream every night. I found it comforting to know I wasn’t alone, but I hate that he feels like this too. I feel like our loss robbed us of the joy we would otherwise be feeling right now.

Mostly I am sorry for every woman who belongs to this awful sisterhood. I am grateful to be pregnant again, but navigating it after a loss is hard. Hugs to you all ❤️

coco2787 · December 2021

@maggiemadeit I’m sorry for your loss and that it was such a horrible experience. Some providers can be so insensitive about miscarriage. That’s frustrating that 10 weeks is the earliest you can be seen, can you convince them to do betas for your mental
health at least? After my first loss my doctor immediately offered to do betas and an earlier US when I got pregnant again.

coco2787 · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 4+3 Aug 22nd

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? MMC @ 9 weeks, MMC @ 14 weeks and two CP (followed by a healthy full term pregnancy before this one)

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically?

Physically still fine. I’m 50/50 for horrible nausea (2 pregnancies I felt amazing, 2 of them I felt like death) Emotionally still feeling pretty unattached. Not excited but not that anxious yet either. But anxious enough to still be peeing on sticks.

Any appointment updates? Got beta results earlier this week, 94 and 289 at 12 and 14 DPO. First ultrasound scheduled for Jan 3rd at 7 weeks.

Any big milestones? Past my CP milestones but the big one will be having a good first ultrasound. After that 2nd tri will be the next big milestone.

Rants/Raves/Questions? Anyone else on progesterone suppositories?

darkrose88 · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 6w4d

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)?
Loss @ 6 weeks before having DS.
Loss @ 7 weeks in-between DS and current pregnancy

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically? Overall, much better than I was earlier in the pregnancy given the good news from my beta results (shared below). I still get anxious when something doesn't feel right (e.g. cramps) but I'm not having panic attacks anymore (which I did earlier this pregnancy).

Any appointment updates? I got my beta results earlier this week and my HGC came back at 20232 which is in range for 6-8 weeks. My progesterone was on the lower end of normal for the first trimester (it was 13.6 and the range is 11-45) so my NP has put me on progesterone tablets the rest of my 1st trimester given my history of MCs.

Any big milestones? No.

Rants/Raves/Questions? My NP decided not to have a follow up beta done to confirm everything is increasing normally which I found odd. I thought the test was really about comparing the increase rather than just looking at a single result. Anyone else have a similar experience? (As a side note, she originally told me she'd have me go in for two tests 24-48 hours apart then never scheduled me for a follow up test. I won't push the issue because the results are good just curious if this is the norm).

coco2787 · December 2021

@darkrose88 I’ve always had two betas done, but once HCG gets into the high thousands like yours it doesn’t usually double or rise consistently anymore so in that case the 2nd number doesn’t tell you much. And maybe your provider didn’t want to cause you any extra anxiety by getting a 2nd number that increased but not necessarily by a lot. (And then at 8-10 weeks HCG levels out and then starts to decrease)

darkrose88 · December 2021

@coco2787 that's really good to know. I do tend to overthink and get anxious about things so that was probably the right call from her stand point lol.

anniemarie887 · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 4w2d/Aug 24

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? CP in Sept at 5 weeks

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically? tired, sense of smell is through the roof in a real bad way, nervous and excited.

Any appointment updates? had betas weds, my ob hasn't called yet, but they dropped in the portal overnight: would be roughly 10dpo - hcg 181 (which i think is a little low) and progesterone is 21.3 (not low at all!) -- i am hoping she'll have me do labs again tomorrow, i won't actually go in until 1/20 unless my ob changes her mind on that.

Any big milestones? will be glad to make it through the next week and past my CP timeframe

Rants/Raves/Questions? not unless anyone can see the future

@maggiemadeit it drives me bonkers how there really is no SOP when it comes to ob/maternal care. i've only had one loss, but when it happened my OB was like call the minute you get a positive test again and we'll run labs. i know you just switched practices, but maybe they're no the right fit?
@coco2787 yay for great betas!!! i'm so jealous your appt is so much sooner than mine and our dates are so close!
@darkrose88 also an amazing beta!! i get the weird feeling not having a 2nd, but i've read the same when it's that high that you won't see much change

coco2787 · December 2021

@anniemarie887 the 2nd number is obviously the important one but 181 at 10 DPO is a great number!

anniemarie887 · December 2021

@coco2787 fingers crossed, my portal does say the range at 3-4 weeks for HCG should be 500-10,000 and then 4-5 weeks 1,000-50,000

fuzzywombat · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 6+3 / Aug 8

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? Loss in September at 7 weeks

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically?

Anxious, nauseous (pregnancy or anxiety???)

Any appointment updates?

Ultrasound on Monday, I’m counting down the minutes

Any big milestones?

Monday is the big milestone

Rants/Raves/Questions? NATM

@maggiemadeit That’s frustrating. I was really glad my Ob happily agreed to betas even though I’ve only had 1 loss. I think I’ve seen people self order them, maybe that’s an option?
@anniemarie887 That range seems high. I think yours at 10 dpo is perfect http://www.betabase.info/chart/betaByDay/10/Single

anniemarie887 · December 2021

@fuzzywombat oh interesting! thank you for sharing!!

edit to add: OB got back to my on the portal, doesn't see a need for 2nd set of labs, happy with the numbers and as long as no pain/bleeding she'll see me in Jan. so now we wait... five very long weeks.

darkrose88 · December 2021

@anniemarie887 I guess I'm not the odd one out not getting a second set of labs.

I'm so glad to hear she thought they looked great!! Also that progesterone score 😍! Loving all these great betas!

returning_bump_member · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 7w4d 8/1

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? MMC in August

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically? Emotionally, better. But I'm still not trying to get too attached to this pregnancy if it ends in a loss.

Any appointment updates? Had a u/s on Tues. Baby measured exactly with my due date and I got to see the heart beat.

Any big milestones? Almost hitting 8 weeks (when MMC happened)

Rants/Raves/Questions? I want my new insurance card to get here so I can make an appointment with my normal ob!

paytonpedro · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 6/ 8-11-22

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? Mc at 5 weeks in July

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically? I was going to wait until later but my pgal brain is hurting. I have an u/s at 6 tonight and I’m super nervous. I’m optimistic but also super scared. Physically I feel like garbage. Nauseous, sore boobs, dizzy, the whole sha-bang.

Any appointment updates? U/s today at 6pm. Next appt w/dr Jan 3rd.

Any big milestones? Well I made it past 5 weeks but I’m super nervous about the u/s. I also have a weird feeling there is a chance of multiples. For no reason. So I guess we’ll see.

Rants/Raves/Questions? My husband is going with me tonight even tough he’s not allowed in (boo 👎🏼👎🏼) and then we’re going to hopefully finish our Christmas shopping. Christmas definitely snuck up on me this year!

darkrose88 · December 2021

@paytonpedro ugh I'm so sorry you're feeling super stressed about the U/S. Also ugh to your husband not being able to go in with you! Seriously, I'd be super peeved. I really don't understand all these constraints if you are both wearing masks. Hopefully the appointment goes smoothly and you'll be able to report happy news later. 🥰

paytonpedro · December 2021

@darkrose88 thank you for your kind words! It doesn’t make any sense at all, and the funny part is he’s fully vaccinated and I’m not (for medical reasons). So he’s literally less of a threat than I am.

darkrose88 · December 2021

@paytonpedro oh, man, what an ironic situation. I bet they don't care though they are just following procedures.

anniemarie887 · December 2021

@paytonpedro fx for your u/s tonight!!!

coco2787 · December 2021

@paytonpedro I hope your scan goes well, I’m sorry your husband can’t go in with you though 😥

paytonpedro · December 2021

Thank you ladies! I updated in the u/s thread! Totally didn’t even ask and just brought mh in!

coco2787 · December 2021

Ugh I took a test this morning with FMU (I know, I know, step away from the tests) and it was lighter than yesterdays (yesterday test line and control line were the same) and now I’m spiraling. Just put a message in to my doc about getting more betas done.

maggiemadeit · December 2021

@coco2787 I'm sorry you're going through this, I have been a mess with pee sticks too. I haven't seen much progression the last few days and was worrying I was headed for another loss. It's so hard, but there are just so many factors that can affect the result.

I just read about the hook effect, where HCG levels can be too high and it tricks the sensitive tests. I diluted my pee with water this morning and got obvious progress from yesterdays test, my first ever dye stealer. I think we're right around the same due date, so maybe it's the same for you? If you have another test handy maybe you can try it while you're waiting to get your bloodwork?

I'm thinking of you and hoping for the best.

paytonpedro · December 2021

@coco2787 definitely everything @maggiemadeit said. Also try to remember that hpt’s are only qualitative and not quantitative. (I know, easier said than done!!) You’re previous hcg numbers were great! I hope your dr will order more, if anything just to ease your mind!

bearmomma1 · December 2021

Weeks/EDD? 4+1, 8/25

Previous loss(es) (share as much or as little as you like)? Was pregnant last year. Son was born due to spontaneous preterm labor at 30+4, he passed away 5 1/2 weeks later.

How are you feeling? Emotionally & physically? Trying my hardest to not be so nervous. I've never had an early loss, so for some reason that gives me some kind of peace of mind? but my first beta at 14 dpo was 93, which the dr said was a great number and she's confident with it. doing another check tomorrow and I'll hopefully feel better then. I feel liek every little thing I do i'm constantly wondering if it's affecting the baby now or in the future. my pre-term labor was unexplained, as was his issues upon birth, so I have no idea what to look out for or try to prevent or change. ugh, I guess I'm a mess.

Any appointment updates? 2nd beta tomorrow, then first ultrasound scheduled for jan 3, which i'll be 6+4.

Any big milestones? I guess first ultrasound to see lil heartbeat.

Rants/Raves/Questions? I hate that my innocence of pregnancy has been lost, which I'm sure you can all agree with. My last 2 pregnancies I felt invincible. Now I feel like I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

anniemarie887 · December 2021

@bearmomma1 i'm so sorry for your loss, and i relate to the feeling of innocence being lost, i've had a few friends with traumatic losses/still births

darkrose88 · December 2021

@bearmomma1 I'm so sorry for your loss. What a traumatic experience and to not have an explanation as to why must be so hard. 💔

coco2787 · December 2021

@maggiemadeit I doubt it would be hook effect yet as my HCG was 289 on Monday so if it was rising appropriately it would only be a bit over 1000 today.

@paytonpedro yes, my logical brain knows all this 🥴 it’s just so hard to stop testing when you’re looking for any sign of hope after RPL.

Thanks for the well wishes, I took another test this afternoon after a 3 hour hold and it was darker than this morning (and darker than yesterday) so I feel a little better. My doc put orders for another round of betas in so I’ll probably go have that done this weekend. PGAL is such a mind f*ck

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