IF Testing & Treatment w/o 5.4

keikilove · May 2020

This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility, and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say. Treat this as an ongoing conversation.

Diagnosis (if you've been):

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):

How are things going?:

Any questions?:

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal?

mvt2003 · May 2020

Diagnosis (if you've been): MFI

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Sitting in limbo still

How are things going?: I'm not sure if I was able to update in here or not, but we had a telehealth appointment with our RE, and she did offer to do a medicated FET cycle for me. We decided to hold out a bit longer to see how things shake out with quarantine, partially because we would prefer to have this process as natural as we can make it (snort, I know) and also because estrogen supplementation gives me constant nausea and the protocol I would be on would also include PIO to boot.

We've since finished that cycle that I was just beginning when we spoke with our RE, and we're still no closer to being able to do a natural FET. Basically, they need to be able to have embryologists in the office 7 days per week in order to do natural, and right now they need control of everyone's cycles so they can adjust staff as necessary. So, we're going to most likely suck it up and do a medicated FET next cycle.

Any questions?: Nope

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Being able to just run out and get a coffee!!!

manillabar · May 2020

Not sure why keikilove is banned but this thread is still up, so... I guess I'll use it? Come back soon!
Thanks everyone for the kind words last week, hoping this is a good week for all of us!

Diagnosis (if you've been): underactive thyroid, low morph

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WFAF- BFN yesterday, expecting AF tomorrow

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): this upcoming cycle I will officially begin treatment! Follistim, ovidrel trigger, and IUI

How are things going?: Not too bad, being able to start treatment is taking the sting off of the BFN, though I'm trying to keep my expectations realistic. Also the exterminator came to the office over the weekend but I till keep nervously looking around, hoping I don't see anymore ants! >_<

Any questions?: Has anyone here used Avella as their pharmacy? My doc sent the meds to a different pharmacy first but apparently my insurance requires me to use Avella. I feel like the first pharmacy was much more on top of things and that I have to do more legwork with Avella. I am definitely grateful to have some insurance coverage for the meds but I'm also really afraid that something is going to fall through the cracks.

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Hugging my extended family! (and friends for that matter) I miss them so much. I haven't hugged anyone who doesn't live in my house for two months and it's killing me lol

manillabar · May 2020

@mvt2003 I'm sorry that things aren't working out for you to get your natural cycle. A lot of places are starting to ramp back up. Do you think there's any chance their staffing will change before this cycle is over?

kpearse99 · May 2020

I'm so sorry I was MIA last week - life got the best of me and it was difficult to keep up. I missed quite a bit though, it seems..... WTH happened with @Keikilove getting banned?!?! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!

@mvt2003 I know in my heart that you and YH are making the right and the best choices for you. I hope you know that too!

@manillabar I miss hugging my family too!!!

Diagnosis (if you've been): Secondary Unexplained IF

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): NTNP/EOD - next cycle we'll start back up with tracking!

How are things going?: Pretty good! I'm expecting AF to be here this weekend, which is totally fine as we have a wedding in Charleston in January and DH is the best man so he kinda needs to be there and I would hate to miss that wedding haha! We talked about what to do next month and we are both on board with our plan and are excited to get back into a more active approach to TTC. We agreed I should track with OPKs again and that we would then use preseed the way they prefer you to use it (applying it vaginally about 15 minutes before HIO). We'll only do that once I start getting darker OPKs.

Any questions?: Nope

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Family and Friend gatherings! I miss my people!!! Also going to Home Goods and just shopping around in general!

manillabar · May 2020

@kpearse99 yesss! I'm totally an introvert but I definitely miss my people too!

mvt2003 · May 2020

@manillabar Yes, you're correct a lot of states are starting back up, I'm just not holding out much hope for mine. I'm in New England, and our governor has extended our stay at home order until May 18, most people are assuming it will get extended again until June. I also think that in general, my clinic is going to want to be able to control the number of patients they have cycling at a given time for the next few months in order to best prevent any virus spreading, so I have a strong feeling that natural FET is many cycles away.

@kpearse99 Thank you, friend, you know that means a lot to me.

I'm so happy this NTNP break has been good for you, and am excited for you to pick up TTC a bit more actively (albeit less stressfully!!!)!

bluetickgal · May 2020

Diagnosis (if you've been): PCOS and Unexplained RPL

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Letrozole (5mg), IUI (tomorrow), and Progesterone.

How are things going?: Going well! Had a really good weekend! I wanted to say that I hope I haven’t hurt or offended anyone by talking about resuming treatment. I know we were incredibly lucky that we were able to start back so quickly with where I was in my cycle...but I know so many of you are still waiting to start back, and I really hope your wait is almost over! I’m so sorry if I’ve caused any hurt by talking about my treatment though! I’ll keep it to a minimum and put it in a spoiler for now if that would help.

I did my first ever trigger shot last night and it wasn’t bad at all! I had some extra help & encouragement from @kpearse99 (thanks again, friend!!) and DH coached me through it! Now I’m just hoping my follies keep on growing and they’ll be the perfect size for the IUI tomorrow! I’m excited but trying not to put too much hope/pressure on it working the first time!

Any questions?: None right now.

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Definitely being able to travel to visit family!! This sounds weird...but also being able to go to the store with DH! We have always gone to the store together, but now one of us sits in the car while the other one goes in.

How the heck did @keikilove get banned?!?! Please come back to us soon!!

@mvt2003 @kpearse99 welcome back, friends!! 🎉 You were definitely missed!!

@mvt2003 I’m sorry you weren’t able to do a natural FET, but I’m hoping with everything in me that the medicated FET will be it for you...and that all the meds won’t be too bad! Also, you are a freaking rockstar making all those masks!!

@manillabar sorry for the BFN yesterday! That is so good you have a treatment plan for this next cycle, and that it helps take the sting out of the negative...even if it’s just a little bit!

@kpearse99 I hope AF doesn’t show, but I’m so glad you and YH have a good plan in place for next cycle! And also, that you have the silver lining of the January wedding!

kpearse99 · May 2020

@bluetickgal I'm always here for you, friend!! I'm glad I was able to help walk you through the trigger process and even more glad that it was easy peasy!!!

mvt2003 · May 2020

@bluetickgal Speaking for myself here, please do not "spoiler" yourself on my account! I'm hoping so hard this is it for you!!!!

inthewoods23 · May 2020

@mvt2003 The one nice thing about medicate FETs is that the dates were very specific and well known ahead of time. And on the bright side, my RE says success rates are the same whether it's natural or medicated. FX that whatever you do is the ticket to succes!

@manillabar who was your first pharmacy? I had to do the same where I was getting my trigger shots for IUI through 1 pharmacy, then when I went to order IVF meds they found my insurance required me to go through Freedom Pharmacy. I think Avella was the 2nd option for pharmacies from my RE when getting our trigger shots. Freedom was definitely on top of things in my opinion.

@kpearse99 haha same, I also had reason to be like "ehhhh a January baby isn't the best idea". I would have had to be a unicorn for that miracle to happen. Clearly I am not!

@bluetickgal I'm just glad this thread will be hopping again with people going through treatment!! I'm happy to see things finally moving forward for some of us!

Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained, low morph

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): naturally trying with various supplements, tracking, and good ol' HIO

How are things going?: not bad, just chugging along. Glad to be done with AF for now.

Any questions?: nope

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Getting seafood at Bonefish Grill with my friend whose husband is allergic to shrimp so she and I do the occasional dinner date

we might seriously try to coordinate on a warm day getting it for pickup and then eating in a park. But also, just eating out at a restaurant in general, I miss being able to sit and chat while being waited on.

inthewoods23 · May 2020

In positive news, my clinic just called. They're working on getting people rescheduled. Too bad I have to call them back and tell them we're going to hold off for a little while.

Feels stupid that I'm going to do that... but I have to give this diet and DH's supplements a chance to work their magic. Also I need a financial break from it all.

pom9207 · May 2020

why is @keikilove banned?!

@inthewoods23 hope the diet and supplements work their magic! The clinic must be a little surprised when you tell them you are gonna hold off on the FET

@mvt2003 totally feel you... I hated the ideas of doing PIO shots, and my RE told me in general natural and medicated FET have similar success rate. But he suggested a medicated for me even before the quarantine...

@kpearse99 exciting that you will start to actively trying again!

coming back for more tags as well as my updates...

kpearse99 · May 2020

@inthewoods23 oooo I love the idea of you and your friend getting bonefish takeout and doing a picnic!!! I think you're making the right decision for you!

bluetickgal · May 2020

@kpearse99 💜 and now I get ice cream tonight!! Haha, totally worth sticking myself for it!

@mvt2003 thanks friend!! And thanks for the reassurance! I just started thinking about it, and I know how things all hit us differently! I’ve been upset by things that probably wouldn’t have upset others at that time. I think a lot of it depends on where we are emotionally at that moment, but I don’t ever want to be the cause of someone’s hurt if I can keep from it!

@inthewoods23 true, things should start picking up around here in the next few weeks. That’s not stupid at all...you have to do what’s best for you and YH and it sounds like waiting out the diet & supplements is a very good plan!

emeraldduchess · May 2020

Did we miss how/why keikilove got banned? What alternative universe is this??!

Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained IF, unexplained RPL, possible luteal phase defect or low progesterone

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): OPKs, monitoring CM, HIO, BBT.

How are things going?: I think O is still several days away, which pisses me off because it's CD18 already. I hate having such a late O. It makes me paranoid that my eggs are complete garbage.

Any questions?: Nope

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Besides resuming IF treatment, I'm looking forward to being able to go to the craft store and the library.

manillabar · May 2020

@mvt2003 I see... sorry, hopefully you and the RE are able to come up with a plan that you feel comfortable with

@bluetickgal thanks, and good luck tomorrow!!!

@intothewoods23 The first pharmacy was Mandell's clinical pharmacy. They were definitely more responsive, and their OOP prices seem to be cheaper than Avella's. I think it's great that you are giving the diet and supplements a chance. Hoping it does the trick for you!

@emeraldduchess as much as I've tried to look, I can't find any reason why she would get banned. Sorry for the late O, hopefully your body is just preparing to release an awesome egg 🤞🏾

mvt2003 · May 2020

Thinking of you today @bluetickgal !!!!!!!

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bluetickgal · May 2020

@emeraldduchess so sorry for the late O, but hopefully they just need that extra time to develop and they are still great eggs!! Fingers and toes crossed that this is your cycle, friend!

@manillabar thanks lady!!
@mvt2003 thanks, friend!! ☺️

AFM...IUI #1 is complete! Numbers seemed really good (in spoiler below) and it went smoothly. Now, we wait! Going to try and make this a very relaxing next two weeks!!

Count after wash was 127.5million with 51% motility. So, as I pretty much suspected...DH is NOT the issue!

kpearse99 · May 2020

@emeraldduchess I know how frustrating it can be to O on the later side - I think I've been Oing around CD21 this cycle and last. I don't think it has anything to do with egg quality though.

@bluetickgal I'm still in awe at that swimmer count! haha YH must feel pretty proud of himself and his "boys" hahaha

inthewoods23 · May 2020

@emeraldduchess sorry for the late O, but I don't think that means they're garbage! Maybe think of it as your body taking it's time to build the perfect little egg

@bluetickgal nice count!!!

bluetickgal · May 2020

@kpearse99 haha...I think he was mostly relieved, but also pretty proud! One less thing to worry about!

@inthewoods23 thanks!! Hopefully that helps our chances, although I guess it hasn’t really so far! 🤷🏼‍♀️

pom9207 · May 2020

@bluetickgal wow those are great swimmers! Fx for you!!

@manillabar my insurance requires Avella and I hated them... I ended up decide to pay OOP and use another pharmacy. I hope you have a better experience than mine with them!

@emeraldduchess I feel you... late ovulation drives me nuts! Hope you O soon!

pom9207 · May 2020

Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WFFET

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): FET!

How are things going?: better! I had my baseline appointment this morning for the FET cycle. The clinic also agreed to take my urine sample again to confirm I don’t have UTI anymore. That 104F fever caused by suspected kidney infection was no joke...

Any questions?: natm

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Wish I am able to go hiking...

bluetickgal · May 2020

@pom9207 thanks, friend!! Yay for your FET cycle starting, that’s so exciting!! That’s good you had them check to make sure your UTI is gone, fingers crossed that it is and that this is your cycle!!

abarr723 · May 2020

response from last week: @whitealbum29 yes, I am using a sewing machine! I texted H one night while he was at work and was like "sooo i bought a sewing machine today", lol. He was like "oh? okay?" lol it wasn't bad, it was on sale for like $79 if I recall. But I have made a nice little side hustle! if anyone needs any, feel free to let me know.

Diagnosis (if you've been): boarderline PCOS

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW??

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Having fun!

How are things going?: very good! same as last week! still just enjoying our quarantine time when we are home together and not working. I started back to school Monday. Ugh, I feel like it is so disorganized. I am so ready for this next ten weeks to go buy and be done!

Any questions?: not really

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? going to target and wandering aimlessly and buying crap i don't need!

back later for tags!!

emeraldduchess · May 2020

@bluetickgal so glad things went well!! That's an amazing count!

I will pop in later with more tags. I'm so sorry I haven't been able to be as active as I want to be. Remote teaching means hours of staring at my computer screen and I am really starting to feel the stress from that. But I know you all know I'm always sending

and rooting us all on.

ramzlau · May 2020

Diagnosis (if you've been): old?

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): HIO, OPKs, vitamins, nothing new or exciting

How are things going?: there is one day, and then another, and then another...they are all starting to look the same. There is a rumor that we may not be under "stay at home" for the rest of our lives...

Any questions?: Hmmmm....nope

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? Brunch on a patio in the sun with friends!

@abarr723 Yay for having a side hustle!
@pom9207 Yay for a good baseline and glad you are feeling better!
@bluetickgal Fingers crossed! And I hope the next two weeks go by quickly! And you are a beacon of hope and light during all of this, so please don't spoiler yourself!
@emeraldduchess I can relate to feeling like a late O means garbage eggs! Any news on when your RE will resume treatment?
@inthewoods23 Its great to give the diet and supplements time to work, and if anything they will just improve your chances when you go back to treatments if that is what it comes too. From what I have seen it takes a few cycles to see those benefits so even better to wait a bit! And I hear you on the financial break, it has been nice to not be spending so much on doctors right now.
@kpearse99 I am ready for you to jump back in with both feet! Hoping the break was refreshing and your body was able to recoup!

Be back for more tags!

whitealbum29 · May 2020

@mvt2003 Sorry things aren't working out right now with a natural cycle but hopefully things go smoothly with medicated!
@manillabar Glad you can start treatment soon!
@kpearse99 glad you have a plan you feel good about! I don't know if I knew that about Pre-seed! It's been a bit since we tried it. I wonder if it's the same with Conceive Plus.
@bluetickgal Also don't feel you should have to do a spoiler! I'm happy to celebrate with you that you're able to start up treatment! I'm so glad the IUI went well and the numbers were good! FX for you.
@inthewoods23 Totally understandable that you're holding off with everything going on. It's good to know the clinic is starting to schedule people for when you are ready!
@emeraldduchess Ugh sorry for the late O. Super annoying!
@pom9207 Ugh glad you're feeling better and hope the UTI is completely gone! Glad you're getting going with the FET cycle!
@abarr723 That's great about the masks and that it can be a side hustle! Now I want a sewing machine. I hope the next weeks of school fly by!

Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained so far, HSG missing from workup due to delay

Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): expecting AF soon

What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Tried on our own...I might call the doctor when AF arrives and talk about an HSG for next cycle but I think that kind of procedure is still shut down.

How are things going?: Okay, I guess I was wrong about O date because was expecting AF Tuesday (I wasn't doing OPKs or temping, just CM so could definitely have been wrong). So now I'm in fake-out mode where I keep SS and thinking "maybe I really AM late!" even though I pretty much feel exactly like I always do before AF. (I'm also someone who always WFAF and never tests...I could actually get a definitive answer!)

Any questions?: Nope

GTKY: What are you most looking forward to when life gets back to normal? So much...browsing local bookstores, grabbing a coffee, going into the corner store, seeing my parents (they don't live close by so not a part of daily life but the fact that it's not allowed is sad), being able to think more than a week into the future.

kpearse99 · May 2020

@pom9207 So wonderful that you get to start the FET back up!! Woohoo!!

@whitealbum29 Yea! I was shocked when I initially read about it (been using it for the full 20 months now) but totally shook my head NO at applying it that way. After reading more about it it makes sense as it then gives the lube time to mimic your own body's CM...etc. So...we'll give it a go! I don't know about ConceivePlus but I would look into it for sure.

@ramzlau "OLD"

I'm dead! hahaha My WFH keeps getting extended (not that I'm complaining!). Our office won't be opening up until June 1st now and it will open up in waves... I'll be one of the later groups to go back as I can do my job fully from home. I am ready for the rest of the world, aside from work, to go back to "normal-ish" though!

emeraldduchess · May 2020

Finally able to sit down and tag people! I feel like I've awful at supporting everyone.

@mvt2003 I can definitely commiserate on the extended wait to resume treatment since we're in the same location.

The governor did seem a bit more optimistic in his press conference today.

@manillabar I haven't used that specific pharmacy but I get the frustration of only having one option. My insurance only covers meds from one pharmacy and my RE's office was very disappointed (I guess they like working with some pharmacies more than others).

@kpearse99 OMG I miss Homegoods/TJMaxx/Marshalls sooooo much! I did NOT know that about Preseed. Hope not waiting 15 minutes isn't a deal-breaker!

@bluetickgal doesn't it feel great after you do your first trigger shot? I felt like a beast. Like, "grrr, look what I did!"

@inthewoods23 you missing Bonefish Grille with your friend reminds me how much I miss goin to afternoon tea with my friend. We've talk about getting the scones and sandwiches to go, but the main reason we go to that place is for the atmosphere.

@pom9207 FX for your FET!!

@abarr723 sorry online school seem so disorganized. I hope it gets easier to navigate!

@ramzlau I miss outdoor restaurant dining, too! I hope it's back before summer is over. No news yet on when I can resume treatments. They were optimistic two weeks ago when I went in for bloodwork, but that was before the stay at home order was extended.

@whitealbum29 sorry AF seems right around the corner. It's always a letdown to get to the point in the TWW where you don't feel any different.

manillabar · May 2020

@pom9207 yeah, I'm starting to feel the same way. I basically called them myself to schedule the follistim delivery (instead of waiting on them or else I think I'd have been waiting forever) and for any meds my insurance doesn't cover, I'll fill them at the other pharmacy. I guess we'll see how it goes. I'm so glad your FET cycle is starting, that's so exciting!

@abarr723 wow that's a pretty good price for a sewing machine! Glad you're able to enjoy the time at home.

@whitealbum29 that sounds so frustrating... this is why I always end up at least doing opk's, even when I say I won't, because I hate wondering if AF is late or not, so much uncertainty. I hope it all becomes clear soon, one way or another! (but if there's any chance for a BFP, I'm rooting for that!)

@emeraldduchess yeah my RE's office was not thrilled about working with Avella either, haha. I think it's so dumb that insurances dictate which pharmacies people can use.

as for me, AF came tuesday as expected, had my baseline scan yesterday, and started follistim last night! Glad to get things moving.

mvt2003 · May 2020

Friends, I just got the BEST news!

I emailed my RE this week updating her that my cycle just started and we're hoping we can do a natural FET next cycle but if not we'd like to proceed with a medicated one.

She just replied that we can do a natural unmedicated FET in June so I should call the nurse line on my next CD1!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so incredibly grateful to the universe for this, that I cannot even express it.

manillabar · May 2020

@mvt2003 that's so wonderful, I'm so excited for you!

whitealbum29 · May 2020

@mvt2003 Yay for a natural cycle!!! Fingers crossed hard for you friend!!!! Come on June!

kpearse99 · May 2020

@mvt2003 So many happy dances for you, my friend!!

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emeraldduchess · May 2020

@mvt2003 woohoo!!!

kiki047 · May 2020

@mvt2003 YAY friend!! That's so exciting!!!

inthewoods23 · May 2020

@pom9207 & @mvt2003 so happy you both can have FETs soon!!!

@abarr723 go kick butt for the next 10 weeks! It'll be over before you know it!

@ramzlau for real, it's going to be weird to finally have freedom to move around everywhere in the future. I finally got in contact with my clinic's office (they had to call me again, whoops lol) and they were totally cool with us trying on our own again for a little while. The break from all the appointments and shots has been nice!

@whitealbum29 it doesn't hurt to ask if they can do the HSG soon. Even if they don't, I hope they make a note to get you in ASAP once they start allowing that again so you can get moving forward!

@emeraldduchess I guess we could always eat while sitting on the hoods of our cars in the parking lot haha. Is that close enough to the real atmosphere just being in the parking lot??

@manillabar yay for getting follistim started!

I figured while I was on the phone with the RN at my clinic I would ask some questions if we happen to be successful naturally. I guess it's sort of at the RE's discretion, but she may be totally fine with seeing me in those early weeks since I'm an established patient. She'd do extra stuff like track HCG, progesterone, and estrogen, but I like that I could be seen early unlike most that conceive naturally - is that kind of selfish?

kpearse99 · May 2020

@inthewoods23 not selfish at all! I asked my RE the same thing when I told them we were taking a break. He said to call if it happened and they would absolutely do early pregnancy monitoring! I was so relieved to hear him say that!

bluetickgal · May 2020

@abarr723 glad you are still enjoying quarantine together...that’s how DH and I are, just making the most of it! I hope the next 10 weeks fly by for you so you’ll be done with school! I’m sure that will be a huge relief!

@ramzlau ah, thanks friend! I’m hoping everyone can get back to treatments soon...or just all get KU naturally before then!! I totally feel ya on the days all running together at this point! We can make it though...this really can’t go on forever, right?!

@whitealbum29 thank you friend!! I hope AF doesn’t actually show! But IF she does, I hope you are able to proceed with the HSG the next cycle.

@emeraldduchess thanks so much, friend!! Yes, I felt like a total rockstar after doing the trigger shot! Give me a bigger needle than that though, and I’d probably chicken out! Haha. Sorry the remote teaching is getting to be a bit stressful...I hope school can go back to “normal” for everyone by the Fall!

@manillabar so sorry AF showed, but yay for getting moving on the next cycle! Fingers crossed for you!!
@mvt2003 eek...that is so dang exciting, friend!! June is going to be here before you know it and I’m so glad you get to do a natural cycle like you wanted!!

@inthewoods23 that’s good you would be able to get in some early screening with your RE! @kpearse99 that’s great your RE will do early monitoring too...fingers crossed you are both unicorns and get KU during your natural cycles!! 🦄🦄

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