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BTDT - Questions for STM's

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Re: BTDT - Questions for STM's

  •  This is the best pic I have so try to look around the Christmas decorations lol. At the end there is a spiral staircase going down to the basement. We have removed the last piece of the play yard so that part is open now but we had the last piece on and zip tied to the opposite side railing at one point as well. Something like this would work for any “open” railing as long as you don’t mind the look lol. We kind of got used to it I guess 
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  • @sunshinesea22 Are you planning on replacing the banister before the baby would start to use the stairs, or just looking to modify it? In the mean time I think one of those retractable gates might work, or you block off from the wall to the half wall the banister is on. I have a gate where the wall attachments move up and down the pole so you can attach to the wall at different heights.


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    TTC#1 July 2015 
    • BFP: 9/16/15 — MC: 11/8/15 Blighted Ovum
    • BFP: 3/10/16 — Baby Girl born 11/20/16
    TTC#2 April 2019 
    • BFP: 9/12/19 — EDD 5/15/20

  • **TW**
    Me: 35 | H: 40
    Married Sept. 2013
    DS1: Nov 11, 2016 <3
    MMC: 11/16/18 (9w6d)
    CP: 2/3/19 (5w3d)
    BFP!  8/24/19
    DS2: May 10, 2020 <3


  • @m6agua @shamrocandroll This is why I need you ladies! I never would have thought of alternatives like this! I think we will get a quote to change it out but if it’s more than like $2,000 we might just have to do something different. It has always been on our to-do list of things to change since we bought the house, it just wasn’t an actual problem yet.
  • I found out yesterday at my midwife appointment that I have raynaud’s syndrome in my breasts. Has anyone else had this and have any advice? 
  • Meeting with a pediatrician today to get a feel for the practice (we will use them, it’s part of my husband’s hospital group). I have a few questions ready but I’m wondering if anyone has other things they suggest to ask about. I have no vaccine questions, baby will get all shots as recommended.
    My questions: sick vs. well waiting areas, FF support, daytime and after hours questions protocols. 
    What else am I not thinking of that’s important to know about?
  • ruby696ruby696 member
    edited January 2020
    @sunshinesea22 I asked my pediatrician if they accepted unvaccinated patients. They do not, which put my mind at ease. I asked my daycare the same question.

    *obviously not referring to newborns.

    ETA:  oh, ask if they have walk in hours and if they're open weekends. Our office has walk-ins for urgent appts in the morning (8-8:30) and they're open all weekends and holidays (you have to call first).
  • @sunshinesea22
    • Does the ped visit the baby in the hospital (some of the doctors in Boston did this, maybe it's not common otherwise?)
    • Not only what are their after hours protocols but how long does it take to talk to a nurse--at my practice now you don't get a call back for over an hour usually. It's horrible.
    • Also sick vs well rooms in addition to/as opposed to waiting areas. At my Boston ped's office I think they used different rooms for sick visits than for well. 
    • If it's 7pm and you want an appointment for the next day can you call the on-call line or do you need to wait until the next morning to call?
    • How often does the ped see their own patients for sick visits?
    • Also not applicable for you it seems, but for others people might want to know which hospital is their ped's preferred hospital/where they have privileges. 
    DD #1: April 2017
    DD #2: May 2020
    Baby #3: EDD May 2023; MC October 2022

  • @ruby696 Yes that makes so much sense! It only helps so much if my kid is vaccinated but the others sitting around are not
    @catem07 so many good questions! I’ll definitely have to see about the hospital visit after birth. I’ll be delivering in a hospital that’s not affiliated, but if we ever need hospital treatment for baby, we would go to H’s workplace. It’s a 45 min-hour drive so not for our basic ER/urgent care needs 
  • Reading the comment on putting together the crib jogged a super random question. I know that baby will primarily sleep in our room at night to prevent SIDS, but what about sleeping in the nursery during the day during those times I'm awake? What did you all do? Did baby just sleep in a bassinet or a pack-'n-play in whichever room you were in or did you let baby sleep in another room while you were awake 

    My house isn't that big and I'll likely check the baby monitor every two-seconds, I'd just like to get him comfortable sleeping in his crib. 
    Me: 28  DH: 29
    FTM
    BFP 08/25/19, EDD 05/04/20
  • @drkoyya We were straight to the crib in the nursery from day 1. As for naps, it was a variety of on me, in the carrier, swing, pack n play, and crib. You will figure out what works best for you and it may be a combination of things. It will probably also change 12348433897 times as baby's sleep habits will change often in the first year.

    FWIW I have a 2 story 1,700 sq ft house. The nursery is maybe 5 steps from our master bedroom (door to door) and we spent most of our time downstairs in the living room. So using all options worked for us. Most of the time we used the crib in the nursery and had a video monitor. We also used the nursery for most diaper changes, I know most people say to set up a station on the main floor, but for us going up and down the stairs wasn't a big deal.
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    TTC#1 July 2015 
    • BFP: 9/16/15 — MC: 11/8/15 Blighted Ovum
    • BFP: 3/10/16 — Baby Girl born 11/20/16
    TTC#2 April 2019 
    • BFP: 9/12/19 — EDD 5/15/20

  • @drkoyya - When DD was born we had a bassinet in our room for night sleeping and a pack-n-play in the LR downstairs for day naps the first couple of months. We're in a different place this time so I'm planning to use the bassinet in our room and probably set up the pack-n-play in the finished part of the basement and use both for naps depending on where we are when baby crashes (if he isn't in a carrier or other safe sleeping place).

    I'm just catching up on this thread so am going back to a previous discussion from a couple weeks ago. Has anyone actually used one of those mesh retractable gates at the top of stairs? They seem great for the bottom, but I can't tell their strength for keeping a crawler/early walker safe at the top. We have a ranch-style house with an open staircase to the half-finished walk-out basement which has been fine with DD since we moved in last summer when she was 2.75, but not something we want to just leave open when this LO starts moving around.
  • @drkoyya In the beginning baby took like 4-5 naps per day, wherever, whenever. I have a little baby box with handles for that so the first 4 weeks baby can nap with me in room. If baby will nap somewhere besides on me. My oldest ended up only wanting to sleep in our bed, so for nap time, he slept in our bed, which I made a fort around him. Or, for a while in the rock and play (that is now recalled), or car seat, or carrier so I could take a short walk. 

    When he moved into his crib, naps were in his crib. 

    For my second, she slept better NOT on me, which was weird but OK. So I put her down for most naps in her mini crib next to my bed, but afternoon nap we did far away from her brother's room so they wouldn't wake each other up. So that was either in a bassinet or on our guest bed for a long time.

    So it's really whatever works best for you. I'm hoping we can put some sort of bassinet or travel crib in our basement, but that'll depend on what we find cheap or free, and how heavy it is-I'm not lugging a heavy pack and play up the stairs a bunch!
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  • I have a question for the other STMs(+).  Do any of you have the Rock n' Play from previous babies?  I know they've been recalled due to people using them for sleep and having babies roll over in them, but since I already have it and don't really want to deal with doing the recall and disassembly (they want you to send them pieces as proof you destroyed it), and we only used it during the day because DS didn't like his swing, I'm debating whether we just use it again, or get rid of it.  
    **TW**
    Me: 35 | H: 40
    Married Sept. 2013
    DS1: Nov 11, 2016 <3
    MMC: 11/16/18 (9w6d)
    CP: 2/3/19 (5w3d)
    BFP!  8/24/19
    DS2: May 10, 2020 <3


  • @drkoyya I'm embarrassed to admit that DD didn't nap anywhere but in her swing, on another human, or in her stroller/car seat for the first 9 months (unless she was at daycare). I never tried hard enough to make it happen, even though she slept okay (not decently, just okay haha) at night in her bassinet. This time around I intend for that to be different...

    I have an uppababy bassinet (which are rated for safe sleep) that a friend gave me so I'm hoping to set-up a portable nap zone in our playroom, which is off the living room, for daytime naps. I'm not sure baby girl's room will even be set-up when she's born because of my parents living with us and still working on renovating my basement, so she'll nap either in the bassinet downstairs or in her arms reach co-sleeper upstairs. 

    We didn't have any problems getting DD to adjust to her crib when she started sleeping in it overnight at 4-5 months. 
    DD #1: April 2017
    DD #2: May 2020
    Baby #3: EDD May 2023; MC October 2022

  • @drkoyya I'm also a FTM, so we'll see how it goes in real life, but we live in a 2 story house and the plan is to have a pack n play (or bassinet) on one floor in the master and a crib on the other floor in baby's room.  I don't realistically see me hauling a pack n play from room to room or up and down stairs, but would like to have a safe sleep spot on each level because most nights are spent on one floor and most all daytime activities happen on the other floor.  If it's possible for baby to nap in the crib in the nursery it would be best as it would be away from pets and noise.
  • @shamrocandroll I got rid of ours, but if I still had it, I would use it (for daytime non-sleeping use).
  • @drkoyya Add me to the group of people whose babies slept on or next to them for all naps until daycare. I didn't mind the transition, even though it took sometime, because I loved having all the snuggle time. I won't be able to do that again with twins, so the plan is to have them nap in their cribs. Hopefully the 5 month transition from our room to their cribs will be much easier than it was for DS and DD.

    Also, both my kids hated being in the car. They would scream until they wore themselves out and passed out. It was horrible and I hated driving them places.
  • @shamrocandroll I agree, there are so many bouncers and swings etc. that a baby may fall asleep in, but aren't approved for safe sleeping in the same way a hard flat surface is.  If it was me, I'd probably use it, supervised, not for overnight or anything.
  • @drkoyya even though you have tons of feedback, just adding that we did whatever baby was feeling.  I have always been very much go with the flow on sleeping and schedules and DD has done well with that.  She would sleep on me, a blanket on the floor, her pack n play, a bouncer/rock and play/swing, bassinet, bed etc just depending on where she was.  She did prefer to be hold most though I would say.  But also she's 2 and still in a toddler bed in our room (due to layout of house though we are hoping to slowly move her upstairs before this baby unless she pushes too hard).  

    @shamrocandroll we sent our pieces in for the recall and it really wasn't that hard to take apart and mail.  It took less than 5 minutes I think and then we had a code to go to this website and choose a new item for free.  We ended up with another bouncer so we can keep one in multiple rooms or take to grandparent's house etc.  I've also heard of people having luck just returning it to a Target but that sounds like more work than mailing it back to me.  I hated to do it because we loved the rock n play and also only used it during the day, but then I got to thinking that DD1 did take naps in it, and it wasn't like I stared at her 100% of the time while she napped so does that count as "supervised" and can I trust that everything would be fine 100% of the time?  I just sent it back so I'm not tempted because all of the what if's are just too much for me and not worth the risk.
  • @shamrocandroll I was going to use our RNP this time around, but I read this article (https://www.consumerreports.org/child-safety/while-they-were-sleeping/?fbclid=IwAR07hNQzvIA-Q5HRFNmG6baL5yn-gX5rNTrh4Y7md4-iBHXb6_ifp1EotUY or google "while they were sleeping" consumer reports) that completely scared me off.

    TW baby death
    This story in particular: "On April 21, 2016, my week-old son was laying buckled in on the Rock ’n Play Sleeper while I was preparing the needs for his feeding. When I went to pick him up to feed him his face was turned into the side of the rocker and was not breathing. 911 was contacted, CPR was provided, and he was rushed to the hospital. After being treated for an hour and a half he was pronounced dead. … Why did it take so many deaths and so many years to say anything about the incidents?”

    So now it's hanging around at my ILs waiting to be disposed of. I need to ask FIL to take it to the dump. 
    DD #1: April 2017
    DD #2: May 2020
    Baby #3: EDD May 2023; MC October 2022

  • @bananapanda Ugh.  It was literally the ONLY thing DS1 would tolerate being put into.  It was the only thing I could put him in without him flipping out.  He napped in it during the day, and we stopped using it when he started rolling over.  It was the really nice deluxe version that auto rocked and had vibration and white noise, but we've had it for 3.5 years and I feel like I probably won't get a great replacement product because of how long we've had it.  Also, it says 10 days to get the shipping envelope and 12-16 weeks for the replacement product, so basically after baby is here.  I put in for the envelope, but still not sure what I'm going to do.  I wonder if it will even work with the Smart Connect app anymore or if they disabled it completely.  
    **TW**
    Me: 35 | H: 40
    Married Sept. 2013
    DS1: Nov 11, 2016 <3
    MMC: 11/16/18 (9w6d)
    CP: 2/3/19 (5w3d)
    BFP!  8/24/19
    DS2: May 10, 2020 <3


  • @catem07 Yeah, I can't read that article because it will trigger my anxiety, but I'll probably be too scared to use it now so I may as well just get rid of it.  But man that sucks because he hated everything else we tried putting him in.  Maybe this one will be a unicorn baby that sleeps on a flat surface no problem?  Hah.
    **TW**
    Me: 35 | H: 40
    Married Sept. 2013
    DS1: Nov 11, 2016 <3
    MMC: 11/16/18 (9w6d)
    CP: 2/3/19 (5w3d)
    BFP!  8/24/19
    DS2: May 10, 2020 <3


  • @shamrocandroll my first hated the RNP but I kept it because so many other peoples' kids loved it...
    DD #1: April 2017
    DD #2: May 2020
    Baby #3: EDD May 2023; MC October 2022

  • It is interesting to me how hard flat surface is pushed so much when it really can depend on your baby that it was recommended that DS1 be on an incline to sleep because of his reflux, his doctor said to prop him up  with a pillow under the mattress for night time and let him nap in the swing during the day (jokes on him DS1 never fucking napped). But @shamrocandroll I never had a rock'n'play because I heard horror stories of trying to get babies to sleep anywhere else so I asked everyone to not get one for me. 
  • @shamrocandroll I saw that they’ve recently recalled ALL inclined sleepers including the newer models post RNP. I used ours with DS2 and he even napped in it, for over a year, but I got rid of it. DS1 also sleep inclined due to severe reflux but he slept on a boppy next to us. I’m kind of confused about the inclined sleeping studies now because they say absolutely not, but then the first thing they tell you with a reflux baby is to incline them.

    Id say keep it for now and maybe continue to follow the studies/news for the next few weeks on inclined sleep and why it is they’re changing their position on it. 

    I bought the mamaroo this time and fully intend to use that as a possible nap location along with her crib. Nights will be in a bassinet in our room for the first few weeks. 
  • @rox7777 that's exactly what I've seen about the incline sleepers, swings, bouncers, etc. That it doesn't matter if it's the RNP or something similar, they're all equally as dangerous. It makes me super nervous to even try to use anything but a flat surface for a while. I was also planning to get the owlet to help with my anxiety, which might actually tell me if she's having trouble breathing...in theory. 
  • I'm so torn about the RNP too. I feel like all bouncers must be suspect now because RNP just happened to have the largest majority, and therefore the most incidents? Does anyone else have a bouncer they feel safe putting their baby in? I don't think any inclined sleepers are "OK" now per regulations, right? 

    The only thing i'm grateful for is that having a May baby I'm "hoping" gives a free pass to those first few months of potential colds/sicknesses which so often result in wanting to incline baby for better sleep. I'm going to have to get rid of my RNP in order not to use it, but these babies so quickly fall asleep in the bouncers/swings so I'm also struggling with what exactly to plan for daytime movement around the house. 
  • @lisush I was also thinking about getting the owlet for anxiety reasons, but I've heard some mixed reviews and for the price I just cant make up my mind. 

    Anyone already have experience with it? 
  • @randic22 my coworker used it for the whole first year and said it only went off twice. She doesn't know if they were false alarms or not because she was rushing in to make sure he was fine. She waited 6 weeks before getting it and said she didn't sleep at all those first 6 weeks. So that's all I'm going off of - my even more anxious than me coworker haha
  • @randic22 My friend (also a nurse) got one for her first baby and now they are using it for baby #2. They love it and swear by it. We will be getting one, just for peace of mind. I’m all for anything that makes baby safer, even if it costs $300. If you’re concerned about cost, check FB marketplace and local consignment shops. I have seen several for sale on FB marketplace.
  • @shamrocandroll I’m with you on the RNP. DD1 slept so well in it, and we stopped using it when she started rolling over. I kept ours and plan to use it for DD2 when she’s not sleeping but I need to put her down, like if I’m unloading the dishwasher or something. She won’t sleep in it though.
  • @shamrocandroll I’m having that same debate because DD despised even being set down in anything that wasn’t the RNP. We usually used it during the day if we were like doing dishes or laundry and I just set it up next to me. But I also still worry. However, DD was a lazy baby and had no interest in moving unnecessarily so I guess I’ll have to see how I feel with this next one. 
    We also have a stupid swing that DD hated but I kept “just in case” the next kid likes it. 
  • @mokay19 Hahaha we also have a "stupid swing" that DS hated.  I just got it back from my friend in case this baby is a unicorn who will sleep anywhere except on me.  
    **TW**
    Me: 35 | H: 40
    Married Sept. 2013
    DS1: Nov 11, 2016 <3
    MMC: 11/16/18 (9w6d)
    CP: 2/3/19 (5w3d)
    BFP!  8/24/19
    DS2: May 10, 2020 <3


  • @shamrocandroll Yeah I definitely have the same question about swings...Babies aren't supposed to sleep in car seats when they're not in the car, but I also don't get how it's okay for them to sleep in the car seat in the car. It's a slightly different angle, but how is that so much safer? And why can't they make it so the car seat out of the car sits on the floor at the same angle?
    DD #1: April 2017
    DD #2: May 2020
    Baby #3: EDD May 2023; MC October 2022

  • For me personally, I feel like the owlet would just be another thing to obsess over. The ICU nurse in me would love the data (what do you mean that patient is lying in there unmonitored!? I don't know his pulse every second?!). However, unless my kid has a medical reason for monitoring I think for the most part it would just be another reason to worry and less "reassurance" if that makes sense. Those that use them - how do you draw the line? Do you only use it overnight or would you use it in any unmonitored sleep situation, the car, etc? 

    As far as RNP's we have two in storage. I feel like I have enough safe places to set baby if I need free hands (although a couple of those are inclined anyway) so I should probably just get rid of them. It's kind of bogus because I am definitely the type of mom to bring the car seat in and let the baby sleep an extra few minutes (monitored) while I put groceries away, etc. which is the same as setting them in the RNP for a short time.
  • I’m more inclined to believe that bouncers and swings could still work for naps because most of them do go fully flat for the newborn stage. I know every swing we’ve bought has had 3-4 positions. And once again, making sure they’re properly buckled and it’s fully tightened. It can be tempting to just lay them in and go about your business, but buckle buckle buckle. Especially if you have other kids in the house. MH’s cousin has an 18 month old and a 6 month old. The other day the 18 month old picked up the baby out of the swing and laid her on the floor so he could climb in. Luckily she’s past the super fragile stage at least. 

    We used the mamaroo for the 6 month olds nap a few weeks ago. When it’s fully reclined she was as flat as she could get. She’s not even at the second stage of slightly elevated yet because she’s tiny and falls forward easily, but we didn’t have that issue on the first position. 
  • @rachelg777 For me, the owlet is less of a thing to be constantly monitored and more of a “if there’s a problem, it’ll let me know.” I tend to be more of a laid back “everything is fine” kind of person and less of a “omg everything is going wrong”  person, so I feel like sometimes I need something to remind me it really is fine, I’m not just being overly dismissive. MH is a bit more anxious than I am, so the owlet is more up his alley to keep him calm. I know our friends only use it at night, and I think that’s what we will do. I was thinking about the fact that we registered for the Mamaroo swing and that the baby will probably fall aslee in said swing. I mean, isn’t that the whole idea? It rocks them to sleep when you can no longer take the constant rocking? I guess we’ll keep it on the registry and just be super vigilant about not leaving baby asleep in it unsupervised. I’m also hoping he likes to be worn. I put a Ktan carrier on my registry because so many moms had recommended it back in that PS and it looks comfy to wear around the house, so I can still get things done while baby sleeps on me. 
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