Hope everyone in the MA/NE area made it through the "bomb cyclone" ok! We've been without power since 2am and might not get it back until Saturday evening. I'm just thankful it's not winter so we're not dealing with snow and the people working on the power lines don't have to try and do their jobs in freezing temperatures.ย
@emeraldduchess Oh no!!!!! Our power kept flickering all night, it finally went out for good this morning and was out all day. It's back now, we're just going to have to check our fridge! ย
My coworker kept saying the word "bombogenesis" over and over again ย
me: 35 / so: 34 | ttc #1 since 9/2018
DX: MFI IVF Cycle #1 February 2020 4 embryos frozen, 1 fresh transfer =ย CPย FET #1 Natural Cycle March 2020 CXL'd due to Covid-19 ย FET #1 Natural Cycle June 2020 - CP #2 FET #2 Natural Cycle July 2020 -ย BFP!!!!!! Beta #1 = 273
@emeraldduchess thankfully we still have power at our house (Boston suburb), but tons of businesses and neighborhoods nearby are out. And yeah, all day I kept thinking โthank god this isnโt snow!โย
...because itโll happen eventually, and it will suck
ETA: I totally missed the part about you maybe not getting power back until Saturday! Dang!!!
@kmalls@mvt2003 National Grid is outside my house right now working on the power lines. Would it be inappropriate for me to run out and hug them?? Their website always posts worst-case secenario for power restoration time, so I wasn't too worried. Luckily my local library was open so I could go and charge my phone and correct some papers this afternoon.ย Now my dog is losing her damn mind because the house is dark, there are three trucks in our driveway and all kinds of noise outside. ๐คฃ
@emeraldduchess fingers crossed for you that youโre back up and running soon!!!!
me: 35 / so: 34 | ttc #1 since 9/2018
DX: MFI IVF Cycle #1 February 2020 4 embryos frozen, 1 fresh transfer =ย CPย FET #1 Natural Cycle March 2020 CXL'd due to Covid-19 ย FET #1 Natural Cycle June 2020 - CP #2 FET #2 Natural Cycle July 2020 -ย BFP!!!!!! Beta #1 = 273
I have no idea what happened in your areas! ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ๐ but I am glad you are all okay!! I hope your power isnโt out too long!ย
Our TTC Journey
TTC #1: May 2011 BFP: 10/27/2011ย |ย ย EDD: 6/30/12 DS born 6/28/12 via C/Sย ย
TTC #2: September 2018 Me: 36 | DH: 39 Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled 9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) =ย BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks 10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN 11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN 12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN 1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst 3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP 11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
@whatsbumpinpumpkin oohhhhhh we want a Tesla power wall sooooo bad!! DH wants the solar tiles too but I'm not willing to spend that kind of money. I told him when we build our own new home in the future we can solar tile the roof. Make it an ultra green home ๐
*TW* History:
Me: 34 DH: 36 |ย Together since 2007 |ย Married July 2016
TTC #1 since 7.2017 Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3ย |ย all BFN IVF #1 |ย 6.11.19ย |ย 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys FET #1ย |ย 9.10.19ย |ย BFNย "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name" RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testingย |ย all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET FET #2ย |ย 3.31.20ย |ย Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer 2nd Opinion with another RE |ย 8.20.20ย |ย Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle Surprise natural BFP! |ย 9.22.20ย |ย MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks TTCAL naturally |ย starting 11.22.20 Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist |ย 9.14.21 Decidualization score biopsy |ย 10.1.21ย | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation Saline sono |ย 10.15.21ย |ย normal Bloodwork |ย 10.21.21ย |ย high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22ย ย | biopsy provided same effect as endometrial scratch;ย added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX Support to maintain pregnancy DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023 Consultation with RI |ย 6.6.23 Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check |ย allย normal Labs |ย high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56 Follow up |ย 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox Repeat labs in 8 weeks Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues TTC put on pause indefinitely
@inthewoods23 I want to do the same thing. Im hoping that the next home we get is our final home and we can get Tesla solar panels. My husband also want their new car thatโs coming out in 2021 so it would all work!ย
Married: August 2012
TTC #1: July 2015
BFP 1: October 30, 2015; EDD: July 6, 2016- Team Pink
@blackgirlmagic the Model Y? We have that on order for me! Been saving up my down payment since they did the reveal earlier this year. DH has the model 3 so soon we'll be only electric cars โบ๏ธ
*TW* History:
Me: 34 DH: 36 |ย Together since 2007 |ย Married July 2016
TTC #1 since 7.2017 Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3ย |ย all BFN IVF #1 |ย 6.11.19ย |ย 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys FET #1ย |ย 9.10.19ย |ย BFNย "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name" RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testingย |ย all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET FET #2ย |ย 3.31.20ย |ย Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer 2nd Opinion with another RE |ย 8.20.20ย |ย Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle Surprise natural BFP! |ย 9.22.20ย |ย MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks TTCAL naturally |ย starting 11.22.20 Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist |ย 9.14.21 Decidualization score biopsy |ย 10.1.21ย | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation Saline sono |ย 10.15.21ย |ย normal Bloodwork |ย 10.21.21ย |ย high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22ย ย | biopsy provided same effect as endometrial scratch;ย added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX Support to maintain pregnancy DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023 Consultation with RI |ย 6.6.23 Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check |ย allย normal Labs |ย high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56 Follow up |ย 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox Repeat labs in 8 weeks Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues TTC put on pause indefinitely
@inthewoods23 & @blackmagic21 I am constantly dreaming about my future green home. One of DH's cousins has his own solar panel company and it is booming! There are so many shows on HGTV about tiny/green living and I love it! I would love to be able to build it in the city so I could give up my car as well.
We are on a well so no water without something. We canโt put solar on our roof, we have an old slate roofed home. We might buy the lot next door in the future and build a garage and put solar on there. it was the battery or a generator. We decided on the battery since we can โrentโ it for $15 a month for ten years, then theyโll upgrade us, or let us purchase the thing cheap - our choice.ย
Ladies! I don't know what thread I should be in right now. I'm WTO but when AF came Monday the idea of moving over to WTO again made me crazy because really we should be getting moving with IF testing but SO is dragging his feet... it just seems silly to post in WTO about all the things I'm doing to get KU when I don't even know if anything I do will make a difference! But I think posting in IF when we're not actually taking action at the moment will also make me nuts! Hopefully we'll be moving forward soon and it will make sense for me to be in IF talking about testing...
Plus it's looking more and more like I'll have to be benched/TTA from December to March (unless I magically get KU in the next cycle) because we're planning to go to Costa Rica (Zika country) for Christmas and we have to stop trying for three months after that.
Wasn't there a Benched/TTA/"waiting room" thread at some point? Maybe I will resurrect it even if I'm just posting there by myself. /
Anyway I definitely want to keep up with what's going on with everyone but just letting you all know I may not be posting as much for a bit!!
@whitealbum29 Sorry youโre in limbo, but hope you have an awesome trip. Itโs a nice way to pass time if you have to!
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
@whitealbum29 Iโve been a bit all over the place with posting because I donโt currently have a home. If you resurrect the benched/TTA Iโll join you there for a few weeks.ย
They said no lifting and be careful twisting until he can see the specialist and if it gets worse to head back to the ER he didnโt impact the cord itself, but itโs basically unprotected right now so he needs to be super carefulย Iโm irrationally annoyed with him about the whole situation.ย
@whatsbumpinpumpkin So sorry about your husband's back! Frustrating from a health standpoint and a ttc standpoint. I hope his recovery goes smoothly and is on the shorter side.ย
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
I know I'm in the minority here, but I can't just let a conversation like this fly without at least speaking up to be a voice in the desert...
I don't think it's appropriate in the context of ttgp to bring up politics or religion in a way that draws a line in the sand and has the potential to create division.ย This community and the connection I have built with the women here, in a very real way, saved my life when we got our IF dx.ย I needed this to be a safe space where all judgement was cast aside and I belonged, unconditionally, to a group that knew our struggle and our pain.ย And eventually also understood what we were grappling with when it came to making treatment decisions.
I don't feel that most of the time the topic of the Catholic Church is discussed respectfully at all.ย Case in point, I had been locked out of the ap, finally dipping my toe back in TTGP
***TW*** <div class=" Spoiler">After a loss</div> And open up the randoms thread to this -- I'll be honest, it 1000% got my back up, and I don't feel this is the place.
No other religion gets openly bashed the way the Catholic Church does.ย Has anyone else noticed that?ย Like if someone were to bring up some random Jewish custom, would the board be so quick to jump in with all their 2 cents about the Jewish faith?ย Or Islam.ย Let's pick a random supposedly anti-woman Muslim belief, and all pipe in about how backwards and oppressive and stuck in time the Islamic religion is...
Any takers????ย Iย didn't really think so.
So why is it completely socially acceptable to do that to the Catholic Faith?ย ๐คท. That's a question for another day, perhaps.
But putting my heart on my sleeve as a Catholic woman who stopped going when we got our dx, only to return to the TRADITIONAL FAITH after losing my mom, I just ask that you maybe take a beat next time the topic comes up.ย Maybe ask questions instead of jumping to conclusions.ย I don't really want to be the poster child for anything around here, but suffice it to say, it hurts my heart when I am finally able to pop back in and check in with my FRANS.... Only to see this is the topic of group conversation this week.
Don't get me wrong, returning to church after infertility is not without its challenges, (not that in my heart I believe I ever really LEFT), but the fact is, life offers no shortage of opportunities to present crises of faith, as has ever been the case.ย We live in a fallen, broken world, and it's not my belief the God ever wills our suffering and pain, however He WILL use it as an opportunity to help our hearts grow in love and compassion, if we ask.ย All too often we seem to use our pain as an excuse to turn our backs on God, and the faith of our mothers, grandmothers, great-grandmothers... and worship other "gods."ย In many ways, it's only human.ย But to trust Him and believe in His love for us, despite incomprehensible pain, actually is divine.
There's no shortage of voices crying out pet cases against the Catholic Church these days, and have been at various times throughout history, too.ย But there are still true believers amongst us as well.ย I just couldn't in good faith let this conversation go down in the posterity of the interwebs without saying SOMETHING.ย Not everyone agrees with or buys into the whole pop culture opinion on the subject. โค๏ธ
@BusinessWife oh friend I'm so sorry that a conversation I started hurt your heart. That was absolutely not my intention at all. My post was completely out of frustration (and fear) after being told we need to switch hospital networks or see a drย out of state to resume fertility testing and possibly treatment since Hs Dr is no longer allowed to see him. I dont understand why a dr we were allowed to see 2 years ago is now no longer allowed to see us.ย
I'm so sorry about your loss, and I wish you weren't back here under these circumstances. And again I sincerely apologize for you having to come back to a convo that hurt you.ย
Me: 31 DH: 34 ย Married: April 2016 TTC December 2016 BFP 2/28/17 // CP 3/1/17 MFI Diagnosis: Aug 2017 BFP 11/1/17 // DS born 6/18 TTC January 2019 BFP 3/21/19 // D&C (MMC) 5/8/19
@BusinessWife First of all, I think you perfectly articulated both what this forum means and what it's like to have faith through IF/TTC. I'm not Catholic, but I'm on a similar path of maintaining faith and believing that God didn't cause this. It's a lot easier to be angry at Him, but it doesn't make it right.ย
ย I agree that it is so important for this forum to remain a safe place for diverse people to support one another through this difficult journey. I'm glad you decided to clear the air instead of just passive-aggressively harboring resentment, which I would be inclined to do.ย
@millpe FWIW, I appreciate your sincerity, and can certainly understand your anxiety around your insurance issues. I have friends who are not catholic, but see a NAPRO doctor. It's been interesting to hear how they work with some of the restrictions.ย
Hugs all around, ladies. I love you all and am thankful we can have respectful discussions and confrontations here.ย
Where are my Downton Abbey fans? I finally saw the movie last night and it was everything I had hoped for. The fashion alone was worth the price of the ticket. ๐
We sort of hit into the same stuff the further along we got in our diagnostics.ย We had been seeing a napro doctor, whom we both LOVED!ย And had been our regular GP before we even suspected we might have a problem.
We also did a lot of extensive testing for me before he got his first SA.ย and for his second SA collection, not wanting to leave any room for a margin of error or doubt, we didn't worry about messing around with a perforated condom.ย If he had had low count or morph or who knows whatever other sperm problems, napro still has room for supplements and all sorts of things to boost sperm count and thereby aid "natural conception."ย But when there is ZERO, you're sort of at the end of the line.
We held out hope that there might be a logistical issue, for lack of a better term, that could be solved surgically and thereby restore our natural fertility as a couple, but no such luck.
All that to say, I don't know the specifics of what may be going on in your case @millpe but we ended up having to leave that GP alltogether over insurance stuff, too, because once I got my job and our insurance changed, it didn't make sense at the time to keep paying oop to go there, when we just have a copay to see whoever is in network.
Once we received our dx, we also had to see three different Urologists (in two different states) before we finally found the right one for DH, so I mean, you're not alone.ย I'm sorry you're facing the whole MFI thing.ย It sucks.ย And there are definitely times when insurance doesn't make it any easier.
That said, we may actually end up switching our stuff back to something where we can start seeing our former GP again going forward, bc despite the whole scene and how it went down, he was our favorite doctor and we actually trust him, moreso than whichever random providers we seem to be finding in network.ย Hrumph.
Re: Weekly Randoms 10/14 - 10/20
My coworker kept saying the word "bombogenesis" over and over again
IVF Cycle #1 February 2020 4 embryos frozen, 1 fresh transfer =ย CPย
FET #1 Natural Cycle March 2020 CXL'd due to Covid-19
FET #1 Natural Cycle June 2020 - CP #2
FET #2 Natural Cycle July 2020 -ย BFP!!!!!! Beta #1 = 273
June Signature Challenge - Favorite TV Quotes
...because itโll happen eventually, and it will suck
ETA: I totally missed the part about you maybe not getting power back until Saturday! Dang!!!
Now my dog is losing her damn mind because the house is dark, there are three trucks in our driveway and all kinds of noise outside. ๐คฃ
IVF Cycle #1 February 2020 4 embryos frozen, 1 fresh transfer =ย CPย
FET #1 Natural Cycle March 2020 CXL'd due to Covid-19
FET #1 Natural Cycle June 2020 - CP #2
FET #2 Natural Cycle July 2020 -ย BFP!!!!!! Beta #1 = 273
June Signature Challenge - Favorite TV Quotes
BFP: 10/27/2011ย |ย ย EDD: 6/30/12
DS born 6/28/12 via C/Sย
TTC #2: September 2018
Me: 36 | DH: 39
Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) =ย BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay.
TTC #1 since 7.2017
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3ย |ย all BFN
IVF #1 |ย 6.11.19ย |ย 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1ย |ย 9.10.19ย |ย BFNย "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testingย |ย all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2ย |ย 3.31.20ย |ย Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE |ย 8.20.20ย |ย Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! |ย 9.22.20ย |ย MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally |ย starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist |ย 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy |ย 10.1.21ย | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono |ย 10.15.21ย |ย normal
Bloodwork |ย 10.21.21ย |ย high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22ย
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI |ย 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check |ย allย normal
Labs |ย high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up |ย 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC put on pause indefinitely
work!ย
TTC #1 since 7.2017
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3ย |ย all BFN
IVF #1 |ย 6.11.19ย |ย 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1ย |ย 9.10.19ย |ย BFNย "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testingย |ย all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2ย |ย 3.31.20ย |ย Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE |ย 8.20.20ย |ย Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! |ย 9.22.20ย |ย MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally |ย starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist |ย 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy |ย 10.1.21ย | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono |ย 10.15.21ย |ย normal
Bloodwork |ย 10.21.21ย |ย high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22ย
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI |ย 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check |ย allย normal
Labs |ย high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up |ย 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC put on pause indefinitely
it was the battery or a generator. We decided on the battery since we can โrentโ it for $15 a month for ten years, then theyโll upgrade us, or let us purchase the thing cheap - our choice.ย
TTC ย 9/2016 ย ย BFP 12/9/16 ย ย EDD 8/21/17ย ย NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC ย 2/2017 ย BFP 3/6/17 ย EDD 11/17/17ย ย DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018ย ย BFP 6/2/19ย ย EDD 2/12/20ย NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019ย ย BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19ย ย IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesteroneย BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
he didnโt impact the cord itself, but itโs basically unprotected right now so he needs to be super carefulย
Iโm irrationally annoyed with him about the whole situation.ย
hubs: 26
ttc #1: 4/19
dx: PCOS
TTC ย 9/2016 ย ย BFP 12/9/16 ย ย EDD 8/21/17ย ย NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC ย 2/2017 ย BFP 3/6/17 ย EDD 11/17/17ย ย DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018ย ย BFP 6/2/19ย ย EDD 2/12/20ย NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019ย ย BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19ย ย IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesteroneย BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
I don't think it's appropriate in the context of ttgp to bring up politics or religion in a way that draws a line in the sand and has the potential to create division.ย This community and the connection I have built with the women here, in a very real way, saved my life when we got our IF dx.ย I needed this to be a safe space where all judgement was cast aside and I belonged, unconditionally, to a group that knew our struggle and our pain.ย And eventually also understood what we were grappling with when it came to making treatment decisions.
I don't feel that most of the time the topic of the Catholic Church is discussed respectfully at all.ย Case in point, I had been locked out of the ap, finally dipping my toe back in TTGP
***TW***
<div class=" Spoiler">After a loss</div>
And open up the randoms thread to this -- I'll be honest, it 1000% got my back up, and I don't feel this is the place.
No other religion gets openly bashed the way the Catholic Church does.ย Has anyone else noticed that?ย Like if someone were to bring up some random Jewish custom, would the board be so quick to jump in with all their 2 cents about the Jewish faith?ย Or Islam.ย Let's pick a random supposedly anti-woman Muslim belief, and all pipe in about how backwards and oppressive and stuck in time the Islamic religion is...
Any takers????ย Iย didn't really think so.
So why is it completely socially acceptable to do that to the Catholic Faith?ย ๐คท. That's a question for another day, perhaps.
But putting my heart on my sleeve as a Catholic woman who stopped going when we got our dx, only to return to the TRADITIONAL FAITH after losing my mom, I just ask that you maybe take a beat next time the topic comes up.ย Maybe ask questions instead of jumping to conclusions.ย I don't really want to be the poster child for anything around here, but suffice it to say, it hurts my heart when I am finally able to pop back in and check in with my FRANS.... Only to see this is the topic of group conversation this week.
Don't get me wrong, returning to church after infertility is not without its challenges, (not that in my heart I believe I ever really LEFT), but the fact is, life offers no shortage of opportunities to present crises of faith, as has ever been the case.ย We live in a fallen, broken world, and it's not my belief the God ever wills our suffering and pain, however He WILL use it as an opportunity to help our hearts grow in love and compassion, if we ask.ย All too often we seem to use our pain as an excuse to turn our backs on God, and the faith of our mothers, grandmothers, great-grandmothers... and worship other "gods."ย In many ways, it's only human.ย But to trust Him and believe in His love for us, despite incomprehensible pain, actually is divine.
There's no shortage of voices crying out pet cases against the Catholic Church these days, and have been at various times throughout history, too.ย But there are still true believers amongst us as well.ย I just couldn't in good faith let this conversation go down in the posterity of the interwebs without saying SOMETHING.ย Not everyone agrees with or buys into the whole pop culture opinion on the subject. โค๏ธ
I'm so sorry about your loss, and I wish you weren't back here under these circumstances. And again I sincerely apologize for you having to come back to a convo that hurt you.ย
TTC December 2016
BFP 2/28/17 // CP 3/1/17
MFI Diagnosis: Aug 2017
BFP 11/1/17 // DS born 6/18
TTC January 2019
BFP 3/21/19 // D&C (MMC) 5/8/19
ย I agree that it is so important for this forum to remain a safe place for diverse people to support one another through this difficult journey. I'm glad you decided to clear the air instead of just passive-aggressively harboring resentment, which I would be inclined to do.ย
@millpe FWIW, I appreciate your sincerity, and can certainly understand your anxiety around your insurance issues. I have friends who are not catholic, but see a NAPRO doctor. It's been interesting to hear how they work with some of the restrictions.ย
Hugs all around, ladies. I love you all and am thankful we can have respectful discussions and confrontations here.ย
We sort of hit into the same stuff the further along we got in our diagnostics.ย We had been seeing a napro doctor, whom we both LOVED!ย And had been our regular GP before we even suspected we might have a problem.
We also did a lot of extensive testing for me before he got his first SA.ย and for his second SA collection, not wanting to leave any room for a margin of error or doubt, we didn't worry about messing around with a perforated condom.ย If he had had low count or morph or who knows whatever other sperm problems, napro still has room for supplements and all sorts of things to boost sperm count and thereby aid "natural conception."ย But when there is ZERO, you're sort of at the end of the line.
We held out hope that there might be a logistical issue, for lack of a better term, that could be solved surgically and thereby restore our natural fertility as a couple, but no such luck.
All that to say, I don't know the specifics of what may be going on in your case @millpe but we ended up having to leave that GP alltogether over insurance stuff, too, because once I got my job and our insurance changed, it didn't make sense at the time to keep paying oop to go there, when we just have a copay to see whoever is in network.
Once we received our dx, we also had to see three different Urologists (in two different states) before we finally found the right one for DH, so I mean, you're not alone.ย I'm sorry you're facing the whole MFI thing.ย It sucks.ย And there are definitely times when insurance doesn't make it any easier.
That said, we may actually end up switching our stuff back to something where we can start seeing our former GP again going forward, bc despite the whole scene and how it went down, he was our favorite doctor and we actually trust him, moreso than whichever random providers we seem to be finding in network.ย Hrumph.