Anyone else find that pregnancy exhaustion is back? I was legit falling asleep at work today and I’m about to take a nap before my midwife appointment. I can’t keep my eyes open.
@AKuzReve Yes!! we were at my parents, and my mom did so much baby-sitting. Yesterday near the end of the day I was yawning and she was like, you slept late, and rested in the middle of the day, what else can I do so that you're not so tired. I was like nothing, this is just the pregnancy.
Yuuuup. I basically spent all weekend on the couch à la first tri.
TTGP history (*TW*):
Started TTC Oct 2015 BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016 Re-started TTC Aug 2016 Started IF testing Nov 2016 Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017 BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
@AKuzReve also exhausted AF. Of course, as the mother of a toddler and soon to be out baby, I think I can expect this for another six years or so.
I bought three new maternity shirts, which seems silly considering I'm in my last tri and don't plan on any more pregnancies. But it only cost $12 total and I'm so over my maternity wardrobe.
So extra super duper random. I have not had a manicure since my sister's wedding in October of 2015. This weekend we were at my parents, and my BIL is getting married on Memorial Day. So my mom treated me to a gel manicure on Friday. (She paid for it, and baby-sat during, she's amazing.) Well, before I was married I used to get manicures all the time, it's amazing how much 3+ years affects what we're used to. I'm back to how I was when I was new to them. Constantly aware of it, and worrying about it chipping. Which I know is unlikely since that's the point of gel. Anyway - I had mango for lunch, and now I have mango strands stuck in my teeth, and I'm scared to get them out with my nail, because I don't want to mess up my manicure. This is annoying.
I just ate second breakfast. I packed it in my work bag today just in case, but I think this is going to become a normal thing. No matter what I eat for breakfast, I'm hungry 3 hours later (which puts me at 930am) and I cannot make it until lunch. I guess we are supposed to eat more in the third trimester, but this is the first pregnancy where I've needed to add a small meal to get by.
@thirdtimesacharm2019 I need to start packing more food because I've been having those sad days where I eat my entire lunch before lunch and there is no way I'm making it to dinner...
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TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@mrosek91 I love pedicures but am hopeless with manicures. I get that same paranoia about chipping, and DO chip them. I've never done gel or acrylic though, because the idea of having to go for a separate appointment to get them off makes me even more paranoid--what if I can't schedule it and don't make it in and spend the rest of my life with ever-growing fingernails tipped with gel trailing along the ground? (a very healthy and reasonable fear)
@cato99 when I used to be a regular manicure going person, I used to rarely get gels, I really only get them for weddings or other occasions, where a chip would be really annoying. But when I do get them I buy the removal wraps from a drug store, they're basically pads soaked with extra strong removal, and you have them sit on your nails for a few minutes, and then the gel peels off. They destroy your nails, but are so much easier and cheaper than going in to get the stuff removed, and your nails typically recover within a week or two. Now pedicures I have never understood. I have this irrational thing about other people touching my feet, I don't even like DH touching them. The only time I ever got a pedicure was for my wedding.
I'm going to try to plan a babymoon for like, less than a month from now. I'm not sure where to go. I really want to go to Chicago with just me and H. The two times we've been we have had our kids with us. So we didn't get to do much. But it's a 12ish hour drive. So we'd need like 5 days. I had planned on 4 days. And the kids hopefully would be in headstart by then. And idk that I'd want to put them in headstart then immediately leave them for 5 days. And if they aren't in headstart by then idk if anyone would want to watch them for a full day
+1 to being exhausted. I think I had a brief spell of feeling good but I was getting nauseated on my way home from work and just want to rest now. But hey, I’m following midwifes orders so....
DD is having some testing done tomorrow on her nerves and muscles. We live a few hours from the hospital so we usually stay with my cousin who is a nurse anesthesist at that hospital. She has 3 girls between infant and 6 years so that is fun. This time I decided to book a hotel room. DD and I just got back from the pool and omg it felt amazing. Being able to feel weightless for a bit was so nice. I am really excited that we bought an above ground pool to put in this year.
11/2010 Diagnosed with PCOS
10/31/11 M/C at 9 weeks 1/12/13 DD was born 4/9/16 DS was born 9/17 CP 6/23/18 BFP EDD 3/4/19
Every night I'm awake from around 130 until 4, then my alarm goes off at 450. My preg-somnia has gotten worse with each one and this is just mean. I keep debating what to do...not much can be done quietly around here and I know I should keep trying to sleep, but after weeks of this, I feel like I'm wasting awake time by just laying here.
Glad I’m not alone in the exhaustion but I feel sorry for all of us haha. I woke up at like 5 with a huge contraction and then had to pee. Then woke up at 7 with a leg cramp. It was fun!
@Allycat11 I love being in the pool when pregnant... I hate getting out when I feel all the weight come back. Good luck with the appointments today. @sourlemon I feel you on the insomnia... its been bad lately. I've been practicing hypnobirthing and listening to some of the relaxation techniques seem to help get me back to sleep.
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TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Holy crap, the ladies introing on January are now due 1/30... that means that the February board isn't far off! How are we third tri (or nearly 3rd tri) already?!?!
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TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
I thought we had a May symptoms thread, but I don’t see it...
Anyhow, I’m not impressed with how this constant heartburn has snuck back into my life (cue super early pregnancy flashbacks as this is always one of my very first symptoms). My esophagus is only happy when I’m eating, but my skin is like “please put down the food, I don’t know how much more I can stretch”.
We had a really nice patient this morning and he gave us al BOG’s for a meal at Chick-fil-A. So guess what this pregnant girl is chowing down on! What nice treat from a random stranger!
Since this is our first, DH has been taken by surprise at exactly how tolling pregnancy can be on a persons body. I remember being tired in the first trimester and being tired and thinking "wow they aren't kidding, this is tiring" and then learning it all comes back 3rd tri and here I am again thinking "wow, they aren't kidding". I wish midday naps were a thing!
@sourlemon - If you have it in your budget, I've been filling those preg-somnia periods with Audible books. Worst case: I make 2-3 hours progress in a book, Best Case: I am asleep in 30-ish minutes.
Definitely there with the exhaustion. DAMN. Like I didn't have a lot of it (maybe 2 weeks in 1st Tri), but it is hitting me this week.
**History in Spoiler**
Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10 Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil) ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day) FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok) FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
Agree on the exhaustion coming back. I overall just feel like I'm not sleeping well.
Sciatica nerve pain also hit me yesterday when I got home from work. I felt it first in my left butt cheek and it started shooting down my left leg. It actually hurt more to stand than to sit (I couldn't stand longer than 5-10 minutes). Also, I'm getting an upper respiratory infection...yayyyy
Me: 31 DH:35 Started TTC in June 2014 Started seeing RE in June 2015 HSG in July 2015 = normal, started Clomid/Ovidrel/IUI cycle in August 2015 Cycle #3 in October afforded 1st month of mature follicles - underwent IUI BFP on 10/27/15 - EDD 7/8/16 DD#1 born on 7/1/16
TTC #2 in September 2018 BFP on 12/2/18 - EDD 8/16/19
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Right there with you ladies on the tiredness and heartburn.
@mrosek91 Per your suggestion on a previous thread, I’ve started listening to the Birth Hour. Hearing a variety of stories is definitely helping my anxiety. Thanks for the rec!!!
I also second Pepcid @thirdtimesacharm2019, though if it's getting bad enough, Zantac is safe to use once in the 3rd trimester (it is possibly safe earlier, but only Pepcid has been thoroughly studied in early pregnancy). Since I'm still hazy on the 3rd Tri date (27w? 28w?), I'm waiting until next week to switch from Pepcid to Zantac, but I'm pumped because Zantac seems to work better/longer for me.
**History in Spoiler**
Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10 Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil) ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day) FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok) FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
Ok ladies, help me out here. Have you ever caught your husband telling a white lie? Some could say it was completely harmless and had good intentions without getting into the whole story and context. I don't know if I'm overreacting but I basically told him a lie is a lie, it doesn't matter the intention and it makes me question the honestly of everything else he ever has said/says. He has apologized profusely and admitted it was dumb and explained his rationale, but I'm having a hard time shaking it. Why even lie over something so little? And I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out if I have lied over anything "harmless" lately. Thoughts? Do you ever fib to your husband?
Does anyone else feel that being in your third trimester of pregnancy, especially in the summer, should qualify you to use handicapped parking?? You should just get a temporary tag at your 28 week checkup
@mkrel guilty just the other day! My MIL sent me an absolutely beautiful bath set (bath bombs, soap, shower gel, lotion etc etc) for mother’s day BUT the whole thing was coconut, which I really really really hate. I felt terrible about the fact that I’m never ever going to use it, and after considerable guilt I gave it to the nanny and swore her to secrecy (she thought it was hilarious and happens to love coconut).
A couple of days ago DH said his mom had texted asking if I had liked the coconut products and I panicked like WHAT DO I DOOO and finally was like “haha loved it yay ok Imma change the subject now” bc he’s not going to go looking for it, and his mom will never know, and I hate to come across ungrateful when it was truly a beautiful gift. (I of course thanked her profusely)
(It will serve me right if she gives me coconut scented products every year for the rest of my life 😂)
@mkrel I feel that this is going to be very individual for everyone. Because of experience, I have zero tolerance for lies. White or any other color. Absolutely zero. And my husband knows this, and knows why. And he knows, because of our relationship experiences, that our relationship depends on our truthfulness and honesty even about the little things. That said...if he’s not one to make lying a habit, I tend to choose to give the benefit of the doubt first. Is there some inner insecurity in him about what he lied about? I try to get into peoples heads so I can understand....
@mkrel it's really hard to judge without more context, but sometimes it feels like the need to tell white lies is unavoidable. I do it more at work than at home, but there are definitely times when DH asks me something, and I respond with something that is not the complete truth. (One example that comes to mind is Monday, he was having a really bad day, and did something that upset me. He asked me what was wrong, and I didn't want to make him feel even worse, so I made something up.) @olivemomma Yes!! I love the places that have reserved for pregnant woman parking. AFM, DH is currently in his preliminary examination for his PhD, this is the committee meeting where his thesis topic gets approved. I meant to call him before it started, and lost track of time. So now I feel like a horrible wife, and am anxiously awaiting his call about how it went.
@mkrel my husband is a really bad liar. He has no poker face whatsoever. I however am an excellent liar. I don't lie to him often, but his mental health is sometimes really delicate. So I'm not always 100% truthful especially when something is likely to hurt his feelings. Another instance is since I don't breastfeed we alternate getting up with babies. Alternate like every other wake up the other person gets up. If I'm really tired I'll say I got up even though I didn't.
@mkrel It's tough to say without knowing the lie or the reasoning, but I honestly think it depends on the circumstance. Was it a forgetful lie (like something he could have legitimately forgotten, and just said something that it probably was)? A fib to spare your feelings (I think this is when I catch DH in a white lie - he'll try to spare me from a rude or unnecessary comment from his mom/grandma or something like that)? Especially for the latter, I tend to be pretty forgiving, mainly knowing it's because I would have done the same thing.
ETA: The level of innocence/genuine good intention behind a white lie is the important factor, in my opinion.
@emqbee No insecurity really in him really, but I think overall during pregnancy I tend to be a little insecure overall which probably adds to my reaction. To make a long story short- I am a worrier (former ER nurse that saw too many worst case scenarios) and he generally tells me when he gets to work each day so I don't stress that he made it safely. He forgets a lot though and because of that installed GPS on him on my phone completely unprompted by me so I can see where he is anyway in case he forgets to tell me he made it. He texted me letting me know he was there, but then someone ended up rear ending him, so he called and I found out he told me he was there when he clearly was not there yet. He said he knows I worry and it took him longer than usual this am because he grabbed food for the staff so when he was at a stop light he just texted me so he wouldn't forget and I wouldn't worry because I had a busy morning. I just don't get why instead of saying he was there he wouldn't have said- running behind because I grabbed breakfast or just not said anything because I can see where he is anyway. It was just weird and really rubbed me the wrong way.
@mkrel with more of the backstory I can kind of understand. Also feel the need to clarify, my zero tolerance is between me and spouse, I totally tell white lies all the time outside of the two of us I can speak to the feeling more insecure during pregnancy. And there's been times I've had to step back, remind myself that I probably shouldn't react/respond right now and give it a day or two and see if I still feel as strongly about it...most times, I wind up letting it go and realize that 'my hormones were inflamed.' I can understand sending the message early, I've done that, just so I don't forget. In this case, I think I'd be pissed about the lie but it would be overshadowed by being grateful it wasn't more than just a fender bender....
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TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016
Re-started TTC Aug 2016
Started IF testing Nov 2016
Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017
BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
I bought three new maternity shirts, which seems silly considering I'm in my last tri and don't plan on any more pregnancies. But it only cost $12 total and I'm so over my maternity wardrobe.
Well, before I was married I used to get manicures all the time, it's amazing how much 3+ years affects what we're used to. I'm back to how I was when I was new to them. Constantly aware of it, and worrying about it chipping. Which I know is unlikely since that's the point of gel.
Anyway - I had mango for lunch, and now I have mango strands stuck in my teeth, and I'm scared to get them out with my nail, because I don't want to mess up my manicure. This is annoying.
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Now pedicures I have never understood. I have this irrational thing about other people touching my feet, I don't even like DH touching them. The only time I ever got a pedicure was for my wedding.
DD is having some testing done tomorrow on her nerves and muscles. We live a few hours from the hospital so we usually stay with my cousin who is a nurse anesthesist at that hospital. She has 3 girls between infant and 6 years so that is fun. This time I decided to book a hotel room. DD and I just got back from the pool and omg it felt amazing. Being able to feel weightless for a bit was so nice. I am really excited that we bought an above ground pool to put in this year.
1/12/13 DD was born
4/9/16 DS was born
9/17 CP
6/23/18 BFP EDD 3/4/19
*Live, Love, Laugh, Learn*
@sourlemon I feel you on the insomnia... its been bad lately. I've been practicing hypnobirthing and listening to some of the relaxation techniques seem to help get me back to sleep.
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Anyhow, I’m not impressed with how this constant heartburn has snuck back into my life (cue super early pregnancy flashbacks as this is always one of my very first symptoms). My esophagus is only happy when I’m eating, but my skin is like “please put down the food, I don’t know how much more I can stretch”.
Since this is our first, DH has been taken by surprise at exactly how tolling pregnancy can be on a persons body. I remember being tired in the first trimester and being tired and thinking "wow they aren't kidding, this is tiring" and then learning it all comes back 3rd tri and here I am again thinking "wow, they aren't kidding". I wish midday naps were a thing!
Definitely there with the exhaustion. DAMN. Like I didn't have a lot of it (maybe 2 weeks in 1st Tri), but it is hitting me this week.
Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
Sciatica nerve pain also hit me yesterday when I got home from work. I felt it first in my left butt cheek and it started shooting down my left leg. It actually hurt more to stand than to sit (I couldn't stand longer than 5-10 minutes). Also, I'm getting an upper respiratory infection...yayyyy
Started TTC in June 2014
Started seeing RE in June 2015
HSG in July 2015 = normal, started Clomid/Ovidrel/IUI cycle in August 2015
Cycle #3 in October afforded 1st month of mature follicles - underwent IUI
BFP on 10/27/15 - EDD 7/8/16
DD#1 born on 7/1/16
TTC #2 in September 2018
BFP on 12/2/18 - EDD 8/16/19
Team Green!
@mrosek91 Per your suggestion on a previous thread, I’ve started listening to the Birth Hour. Hearing a variety of stories is definitely helping my anxiety. Thanks for the rec!!!
Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
A couple of days ago DH said his mom had texted asking if I had liked the coconut products and I panicked like WHAT DO I DOOO and finally was like “haha loved it yay ok Imma change the subject now” bc he’s not going to go looking for it, and his mom will never know, and I hate to come across ungrateful when it was truly a beautiful gift. (I of course thanked her profusely)
(It will serve me right if she gives me coconut scented products every year for the rest of my life 😂)
@olivemomma Yes!! I love the places that have reserved for pregnant woman parking.
AFM, DH is currently in his preliminary examination for his PhD, this is the committee meeting where his thesis topic gets approved. I meant to call him before it started, and lost track of time. So now I feel like a horrible wife, and am anxiously awaiting his call about how it went.
ETA: The level of innocence/genuine good intention behind a white lie is the important factor, in my opinion.
To make a long story short- I am a worrier (former ER nurse that saw too many worst case scenarios) and he generally tells me when he gets to work each day so I don't stress that he made it safely. He forgets a lot though and because of that installed GPS on him on my phone completely unprompted by me so I can see where he is anyway in case he forgets to tell me he made it. He texted me letting me know he was there, but then someone ended up rear ending him, so he called and I found out he told me he was there when he clearly was not there yet. He said he knows I worry and it took him longer than usual this am because he grabbed food for the staff so when he was at a stop light he just texted me so he wouldn't forget and I wouldn't worry because I had a busy morning. I just don't get why instead of saying he was there he wouldn't have said- running behind because I grabbed breakfast or just not said anything because I can see where he is anyway. It was just weird and really rubbed me the wrong way.
I can speak to the feeling more insecure during pregnancy. And there's been times I've had to step back, remind myself that I probably shouldn't react/respond right now and give it a day or two and see if I still feel as strongly about it...most times, I wind up letting it go and realize that 'my hormones were inflamed.' I can understand sending the message early, I've done that, just so I don't forget. In this case, I think I'd be pissed about the lie but it would be overshadowed by being grateful it wasn't more than just a fender bender....