This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility, and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say. Treat this as an ongoing conversation.
Diagnosis (if you've been):
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):
How are things going?:
Any questions?:
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had?
Me 43 DH 45
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
Re: IF Testing and Treatment week of 12/31
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Letrozole + IUI #1
How are things going?: I just had my midcycle appointment this morning. I had a 16mm follicle on my left and a 12mm on my right. The doctor said that was pretty small so I'm kind of disappointed. I guess I was expecting them to be bigger from the letrozole. She said the 12mm might catch up by the time I O. She said that lining looked good at 6. Still waiting on my bloodwork results.
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? I've normally been really low key for a lot of New Years. I'm sure there was a drunken crazy party somewhere in there but nothing pops out at me off the top of my head.
Diagnosis (if you've been): TBD. Final results meeting on the 16th
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Benched
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Testing cycle. Sono HSG is Thur morning 😬
How are things going?: Going.... I'm both dreading and looking forward to Thur. Having to abstain is killing DH. He also had his SA on Fri and his comment to me was "I had to pay $175 to masturbate today". It's pretty lame that his ins considers the SA to be treatment and not diagnostic.
Any questions?: nothing at the top of my head
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? I use to go hang out with my girlfriends (when we were much yonger....). It was just a house party but as the only sober group member, it was always funny for me 😂
Diagnosis (if you've been): DOR, AMA and Autoimmune stuff thrown in with thyroid issues for good measure
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Officially benched, unofficially making the most of the holidays
How are things going?:
Had a really relaxing week off with DH on our “staycation”. Back to work on Wednesday - followed by thyroid follow up on Thursday and an exam on Friday. So I really should be studying rather than being on here!
I also started over a week ago using our exercise bike building up by just 1-2 minutes per day. And I’m going to try a daily yoga thing for new year starting tomorrow. Let’s see how that goes once I’m back at work and trying to manage fitting it in around my long work hours.
Really hoping that my thyroid is close to normal on Thursday and that my 7dpo labs come back all normal next week - if yes then we can consult for what next - most likely an ERA and Hysteroscopy combined in one cycle.
Any questions?: Nope
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had?
I wrote this question as DH and I were talking and saying how we are not big NYE people. Then I realized I have done a few wilder things in my time for NYE - one was spent on a yacht in Sydney Harbour with the worlds best view of the fireworks on the Sydney Harbour Bridge. And 2 years ago DH and I flew to Vegas and got married (we live in Europe...) without telling our families or friends before - just sent a “Happy New Year” Message with a photo of us with “just married” across it!
@littleredm
So 16mm and 12mm are close enough that it might be possible to have them both within mature range if you trigger. If you go for natural ovulation it is unlikely more than one ovulates with that gap, but also still possible.
If you think that follicles grow “normally” 1.5-2mm per day, and that follicles when they ovulate are typically between 24-30mm then I would say the size of your follicles matches perfectly your normal CD for ovulation. For some people the meds shorten or lengthen their cycles - for others it doesn’t. Even injectibles don’t change my cycle length!!!
Go with your gut and don’t just let them make you trigger on Wednesday if you’re not getting darker OPKs by then - I would recommend you insist to go back in for another scan on Wednesday (if no positive OPK) and see how much your follicles have grown. If your 16mm is 20mm and your 12mm is 16mm you could trigger but only the bigger one is likely to be mature. They could however then agree to let you trigger Thursday or Friday and have a chance with both.
Also remember measuring follicles with US is dependent on th person and the equipment so it’s give or take on the measurements.
When you go back ask them to check again your lining measurement - 6mm is actually pretty thin, so I’m not sure why she told you that was good and most clinics won’t do IVF transfers at that thickness. Also ask them if it’s tri laminar. Once you’ve seen that on the US yourself once you’ll know what to look for any other time too as a good thick tri laminar lining jumps off the screen at you.
Longer Follicular phase *can* indicate issues with egg quality, but it’s absolutely not a 1:1 relationship so I would say, as difficult as it is, try to not worry this first time. If it works you know it’s not, if it doesn’t you might need to see if the same happens next time and then discuss it with your RE. The more you work through treatment the more possible causes of unexplained are found.
Any more questions either ask here or don’t be afraid to ask your clinic.
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@prpl11butterfly that’s stupid that YH’s SA is considered treatment. Insurance is so dumb sometimes! FX for your sono on Thursday!
Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): I took clomid for the first time. That’s about it!
How are things going?: pretty well. I’m on vacation with DH and yesterday when we were hiking through the woods, I experienced a random moment of peace with everything. Just hoping it lasts because I’ve been super negative about all of this lately!
Any questions?: none that I can think of at the moment!
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? Used to go crazy in college / right out of college. I can’t think of a particular year that was crazier than the others...we used to go pretty hard. It makes me shudder to think about it 🤣
@prpl11butterfly Good luck on Thursday. Is this your first HSG?
@emmasemm That is so awesome you went to Vegas to get married! What a great story and memory.
@b_1029 How is the clomid treating you?
Diagnosis (if you've been): MFI
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WFFET
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Stopped BCP on Thursday, waiting for my period to start estrogen and PIO for the FET
How are things going?: Things are going! Just waiting for my period to get things rolling. This last week has been great, with Christmas and my birthday and NYE today, lots of drinks and good food and good people to spend my time with.
Any questions?: For these dreaded PIO shots, anyone out there that does them yourself? I did all my own shots for our retrieval but these seem to be a bit more difficult.
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? Last year for sure! Both DH and I enjoyed the open bar a bit too much, danced like fools and dont remember getting home. Woke up with a Dominos pizza in our bed LOL.
Married: 08/2016
TTC: 10/2017
IUI #1-3 BFN
IVF 11/2018- 23 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI with 7 embryos making it to freeze
FET #1 02/2019 BFN
FET #2 4/19 BFP!!!!! EDD 1/4/20
@prpl11butterfly Good luck on Thursday!! I am so hopeful you get the answers you need on the 16th. And hopefully you're off the bench soon!
@emmasemm Good luck on Thursday and on Friday! I've been super lazy lately and am really excited again to start running on Wednesday. It's time to get the holiday weight off.
@b_1029 I'm glad you've been able to relax, and I hope you can hold onto the feeling! This is all so stressful and all too often we ignore our mental health to focus on what's going on physically.
AFM:
Diagnosis (if you've been): Unexplained RPL
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Benched.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Saline sono as soon as AF decides to grace me with her presence.
How are things going?: Eh, they're going. Not much has changed, except the realization that all of my TTC symptom spotting on FF means absolutely nothing since I still have them. I have a gorgeous chart too. So that's kind of taken the excitement of charting away. Otherwise, we've spent the holiday working on our bathroom remodel. DH is telling me to hurry up and get off TB so we can go back to the tile store.
Any questions?: Nope, not today.
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? You know, I don't really remember the wildest NYE. . . lol. Probably the best NYE is Y2K. My friend's parents went to a friend's house and made us promise to fill up the bathtub in case the world stopped working and they didn't have any water. Another friend brought over a dirty movie she found in her brother's room, since we'd never seen one. We were appalled and horrified and disgusted (it was not a good starter dirty movie), and forgot to fill up the bathtub. We didn't realize we'd failed until after midnight, when the world kept spinning. Anyway, looking back, it was just a really good night with really good childhood friends.
@ruby696 lol at that NYE story! Crazy to think of how everyone thought the world was going to end. That’s exciting about the bathroom remodel! Boo to the misleading chart.
Married: 08/2016
TTC: 10/2017
IUI #1-3 BFN
IVF 11/2018- 23 eggs retrieved, 16 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI with 7 embryos making it to freeze
FET #1 02/2019 BFN
FET #2 4/19 BFP!!!!! EDD 1/4/20
@ruby696 have fun with your bathroom remodel! I’m going to vicariously live through all of you doing home renovations and wait for the day I can finally do it too lol. Love your NYE story!
@kobrien827 happy belated birthday! Lots of December babies here, mine was the 23rd!
@prpl11butterfly good luck with your hsg!
Diagnosis (if you've been): unknown rpl, currently going through testing
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): benched
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): waiting for results from karyotyping, waiting for January cycle to start to schedule a saline sono
How are things going?: still in limbo, but moving in the right direction. Ordered opk’s and pt’s so I’ll be ready when all the testing is done. For now, just enjoying being stress free while benched and reconnecting with dh.
Any questions?: I don’t think so
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? I think it was the year I turned 21? Went bar hopping with a bunch of friends and ran up a $700 bar tab...that we somehow got out of 🤷🏻♀️. Got to take the train home on New Years still drunk from the night before. Now I’m lame and can barely make it to midnight.
@b_1029 hold onto that peace you found!
@kobrien827 the most tricky thing I found with the PIO and IM shots was getting them in the right spot myself. Contorting myself hurt more than the shot, do DH did all the backside ones. And get your nurse to draw circles so you have a target to aim for if you do them yourself, perspective in the mirror can be weird
@ruby696 welcome to the realization that all the “AF symptoms are the same as PG symptoms” comments are completely true. Sometimes I’ve even found myself after retrieval when no embryo has been put back still questioning my symptoms and my chart!!! I blame it all on progesterone, that hormone is responsible for sending many sane women crazy each TWW!
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@littleredm follies typically grow 1-2 mm per day. the 2 RE's I have seen would consider anything over 18mm mature and would trigger. It is possible your little one could catch up (especially if you O later). Do you have a nurse case manager that is the point person for you to talk to? it might be good to check in. Just that way you feel comfortable with the plan and what is going to happen. I personally prefer a trigger, but that's just because I have seen so many ladies on here have issues with timing based solely off of OPK's and I sometimes get one day of positive and other cycles 4 days before I actually O. Just because you O later doesn't mean you have an egg issue. Also as a note on the same dose of letrozole over 8 cycles I would have anywhere from 1-4 mature follies... I have no idea what the difference was.
@emmasemm I think RE's have different guidelines for lining thickness with IUI vs IVF. my lining was never thicker than 6.5 even with estrogen supplementation and the RE's were always happy with that.
lurking and rooting for all you ladies. IF sucks
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@kobrien827 and @b_1029 Happy belated birthday!
@prpl11butterfly GL with your HSG! I chuckled at YH's comment about basically paying to masturbate. Luckily our SAs are covered here in Canada but we do have to pay $500 per sperm wash and MF thinks that's a total rip off. He's not wrong.
@emmasemm you win NYE! FX for good news at your follow up on Thursday. and GL with your exam!
@b_1029 happy belated birthday, my friend!!
@kobrien827 dominos in your bed? Bahaha that's awesome. GL with your PIO shots. // and happy belated birthday to you too!!
@ruby696 I still have all my symptoms through AF too so that was pretty deflating. How's the remodel going? Picking out tiles was both exciting and awful for us because we could not make a decision to save our lives. But I'm sooo happy with what we went with in the end. // GL with your saline sono, hopefully AF shows soon so you get things rolling.
@kbrown2385 whoa, how did you get out of having to pay that bar tab? That's impressive. Glad you've been able to use your time on the bench to reconnect with YH, that part is so important and so often neglected during this whole process.
Diagnosis (if you've been): PCOS (an-ovulatory), mild MFI
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Unsure, next appt is Jan 2nd.
How are things going?: I had a pretty major meltdown last week when I felt AF coming on, and then throughout CD1 I was basically a wreck. I had such high hopes last cycle and my clinic fed the BSC so when it didn't work it all came crashing down. I'm feeling a lot better about it now, and feel like I've gained some much-needed perspective on the situation but boy I want off this rollercoaster. I don't like rides.
Any questions?: I called my RE's office in a panic when I felt AF coming because they're closed between Christmas and New Years so if I wanted to start the letrozole between CD3-5 it would be impossible. She scheduled me for the first appt of the day on Jan 2nd but it'll already be CD6. Is that too late to take it? Should I be mentally preparing myself to be SOL this cycle?
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had? I'm pretty boring. I honestly can't think of anything remarkable. My favourite NYE have always been spent with my Dad. My Mom always has a big euchre party and neither of us ever wanted to go so we'd hang out at my place and make a nice meal (once year it was lobster tails and steaks) and just stay in. It was nice. In Japanese culture New Years Day is when we go all out with big feasts. We used to have to go to 5-7 different places on New Years Day between family and friends. Now it's only 2.
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
@b_1029 sounds like the hike was just what you needed. May the new year bring you many more moments like that.
@kobrien827 yes, this will be my first. I'm intrigued but also worried they could find something problematic.
@ruby696 tiling was such a chore. Hope it goes smoothly!
@kbrown2385 I'm glad that the benching is helping you and YH. I have to agree for us too. It's nice to know that we can still want to be with each other for reasons other then baby making.
@kiki047 that sounds like a perfect NYE. I go to my parents every year now and just hang out with them. Steak is always included!
@prpl11butterfly SA as treatment instead of diagnostic? That’s so silly, ugh! Good luck on Thursday- I thought the HSG was unpleasant but not terrible with four Ibuprofen on board.
@emmasemm back to work is always tough! I hope it’s a smooth transition and that BW comes back looking good. I think you won craziest New Years with your elopement!
@b_1029 I love hiking for that very reason
@kobrien827 I lol’d at the pizza in your bed
@ruby696 I feel ya on the charting...ugh. When will I learn to knock off the TWW googling? Good luck with the tile hunting!
@kbrown2385 that’s an impressive tab to have evaded! Wowzer!
@kiki047 I’m so sorry for the letdown. This process is a tough one for sure
AFM, not much has changed since last week. Tried to schedule hubs’ SA multiple times this week and the phone isn’t getting answered so finally just left a message. Hopefully that’ll be Jan 9th and we can schedule to meet with RE and form plan sometime this month. Today was CD1 (7dpo again) so that's always a bummer, plus I picked up a cold at work and do not want to do anything at all tonight. Hope everyone has a safe night
@Swiftlet I hope your RE gets back to you quickly so you can get something going this month. Sorry you're sick. I'll be spending tonight in my pjs and I'm not even sick. Just old!
Re: remodel - I have three blisters on my hands from not bothering to wear gloves while grouting the shower floor, but the floor is done! MH has spent all morning cutting tile for the herringbone floor. I think I got the better deal, even with blisters.
Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): letrozole, trigger, IUI #1, progesterone suppositories
How are things going?: good, is it the 10th yet???
Any questions?: Nah
GTKY: What is the funniest or wildest New Years Eve you’ve ever had?
I was asleep for most of this, but at Christmas DH and his sister had received the game Wipeout for Xbox Kinect and the guys were playing it during the NYE party. Well, none of them had thought to actually read the instructions on the gestures and motions to get your character to stop between obstacles so they were basically trying to run through the whole thing without stopping which, if you've seen the show, you can't just run through and expect to actually make it through all the obstacles. I woke up a few hours later when they were at the end of the game and only then did they see what the gesture was to get their characters to stop. *Eye roll* men... Lol never reading the instructions
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3 | all BFN
IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
Bloodwork | 10.21.21 | high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC ended due to filing divorce
**New relationship starting May 2024**
Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
@inthewoods23 good luck for your tww!
@swiftlet thank you. So sorry for CD1. Hope the clinic gets back to you today so you can get the SA scheduled.
@littleredm that's great news about your IUI! Will be thinking about you tomorrow!
@ruby696 I don't want to get the tech in trouble but now I know why they're not supposed to comment on results. My RE would be pissed if he knew some of the things she was saying. Ah well. She was just trying to be encouraging. Moving on.
@inthewoods23 how did the first few days of progesterone go? Was it weird that they were cold?
AFM, it's too late to start the letrozole so this will just be a monitored natural cycle. Next steps will be to do some more testing. AMH for me and SCSA for him. I don't think we want to do IVF before the wedding (July) so depending on the results of those tests we'll decide if we are going to try IUI or if we just wait it out and go straight to IVF later this summer.
TTC History:
Me: 36 MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017
Aug '18: PCOS dx
Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil
Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN
Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN. Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)
Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil)
Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.
Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.
Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w
Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d.
May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN.
June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between.
Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal
Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic
Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex
Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP
Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN
Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin.
Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal.
June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.
July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN.
Sep '22: Taking a break
Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed.
Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3 | all BFN
IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
Bloodwork | 10.21.21 | high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC ended due to filing divorce
**New relationship starting May 2024**
Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
Quick update on me before I catch up here... Freshly home from my HSG. So far feeling okay but decided to take the day from work still for mental health (and because I need to take a break from yesterdays issues). Since most of our results have come back, we met after the HSG to discuss. I'm basically being diagnosed as unexplained unless the chromosomes say otherwise. We are going to move forward with a TI & Progesterone cycle next and see. If there is another loss (excluding CP) we will have to decide if we want to do IVF or not.
@kiki047 we dont eat a ton of red meat either. I like to hold out and the have something really good once in a while. Hope yours turns out delicious!
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3 | all BFN
IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
Bloodwork | 10.21.21 | high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC ended due to filing divorce
**New relationship starting May 2024**
Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies
IUI #1-3 | all BFN
IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20
Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
Bloodwork | 10.21.21 | high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22
DS born 7.19.22 after induction
TTC #2 begins 6.2023
Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
Repeat labs in 8 weeks
Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
TTC ended due to filing divorce
**New relationship starting May 2024**
Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
Married: 8/2015
TTC #1: 4/2017
Testing: HSG, U/S, BW, and DH's SA all normal
DX: Unexplained
8/2018: Clomid + TI = BFN
9/2018: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
11/2018: Clomid + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
12/2018: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone \\ Cancelled due to cyst
1/2019: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD Sept 30th, 2019
10/7/2019: Healthy baby boy!
TTC #2: 12/2020
2/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
3/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
4/2021: Surprise! Natural BFP! \\ EDD Jan 6th, 2022 \\ Chemical, betas not rising
8/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
9/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
10/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
11/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD July 29th, 2022