@Griffin5413 I've never heard of someone having to take those shots for what I would consider very very late preterm birth. Is there some reason they think you're at high risk of preterm birth again? I've seen those shots being given for very early preterm labor prone women but I feel like I would personally be hesitant to take them if I had only been a few days preterm.
~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
Fall 2012 -- started TTC Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016. September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo. Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice. August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18 September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2 January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
@suzycupcake Good luck today and I spotted quite a few times the first few weeks brown then red but everything was perfectly fine. As much as they tell you its normal it def not any less scary! Hang in there and hoping you today U/S puts your mind at ease.
@Griffin5413 - I feel like 2nd trimester seems early, but closer to 28 weeks can have benefits. I wonder if your doc would be open to consider doing the progesterone suppositories towards the end. instead - you had to take those during the 1st tri, right? I know that 36w6d is earlier than preferred, BUT given your path of pregnancy, your child was most likely fully developed since you 100% know the timeline of conception/implantation, etc ... I feel it might be using a flamethrower when a book of matches might do. I agree with you, though, those side effects seem much more risky/terrifying than risking a few days before "perfection." Best of luck.
**History in Spoiler**
Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10 Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil) ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day) FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok) FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
Thank you @MamaK225! Dr Google gave me some unnecessary stress! ugh! @Griffin5413, i wish i have something to say/advice to you, to release you from some stress, but I don't, sorry... so hard to make a decision when we don't you know anything about what they're suggesting us and what google has too it's just too scary! and something what we find online it's most of the time not reality. i hope you find a response to your question in the other forums since they're further along like you said. did your son have any complications for being born pre-term?
mbradfo2 - I think that's why I'm struggling. My ob said if he had been born 1 day later we wouldn't even be having this conversation @mamak225 - maybe I will talk to my ob about doing them later in the pregnancy rather than starting at 16 weeks. Especially since waiting maybe until 28 weeks either way baby has a high liklihood of surviving should I go. I'm clearly not opposed to giving myself shots b/c I've been doing it through the 1st 13 weeks every day. I like your idea though. @babydust2507 - thanks for the support
I'm going to call my fertility dr to see what he has to say too.
Me: 33 (no known issues)
DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology) TTC since Oct 2013 IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI) ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016 IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@Griffin5413 - I think it would be great to get info from the two of them, I was going to suggest it, but didn't know if you would feel comfortable reaching out. I guess I can see the shots in that it probably takes time for them to fully absorb and the suppositories are a bit more of a faster uptake ... but maybe there are 100mg pills out there that can be used so there aren't any spike/dips. I dunno, I just don't like the idea of all of those risks for a 24 hour difference.
@telda715 - FX for you ... waiting to hear the good news
**History in Spoiler**
Me-35, DH-36 - TTC since 08/10 Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium) FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil) ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day) FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok) FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used) FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
Thank you all for continued positivity!! It paid off!!! Beta went from 106, to 246! She said that was beautiful growth. But, per their “protocol” I need to go back for a third draw before they schedule the ultrasound. This was left in a voicemail, so of course I called back with questions. Asked her if I should be concerned, because they are asking me to come in on Christmas Eve for a third draw. I also asked her if I am more “at risk” than others with higher numbers. She said not necessarily, because the hcg doubled. The feeling I get is the doctor is just extra precautious, and has by the book steps for different situations. He is the best in the area, and I love him, so I’ll jump through the hoops in this case.
I am genuinely not worried at this point. I remember getting a faint positive for my daughter (10 years ago), when I was a week further along when I found out I was pregnant with her. I am also choosing to celebrate and stay positive, because we have wanted this for so long. I’d rather spend the time celebrating the success and enjoy the process, than stressing.
@Griffin5413 I have never heard of a Makena shot. No advice on that one! But am also on a couple medicines with those same side effects listed. (I have Crohn’s disease and take biologic infusions and anti-inflammatory pills.) I feel like most medicines list those as a standard. You have to do what you are comfortable with. It’s your baby and your body! Definitely ask the questions to put your mind at ease either way.
How are you feeling/any symptoms? Fatigue, peeing constantly, intermittent nausea
Any upcoming appointments? 6 week ultrasound Jan 3
Any thoughts/ questions/ concerns? I am probably irrationally terrified of another chemical, despite good betas (115 8dp5dt —> 316 10dp5dt). I am thinking about paying out of pocket for additional betas at a private lab. It’s only $40. But I worry that is not okay.
Holiday is approaching rapidly, who's done shopping? and who hasn't even started lol? I totally half-assed everything this year and don’t even feel bad.
@elvedon Personally, I think you should do whatever soothes your anxiety BUT will getting the extra blood tests actually help or will you obsess over those numbers? Think about what you would do with the test results if you got them -- good or bad. I think your betas are very good and you should stay positive about them. Maybe get some cheapie tests and just make sure your lines are staying dark?
~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
Fall 2012 -- started TTC Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016. September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo. Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice. August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18 September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2 January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
@elvedon I agree with @mbradfo2 about doing what puts your mind at ease.
If it makes you feel any better, your numbers are higher than mine! 13dp5dt I was 106, and two days later (yesterday) it was 246. My outlook is what will be, will be.
Thank you, @telda715 and @mbradfo2. I decided to message my nurse and ask my doctor if I can have another beta and if not why it’s not necessary. I don’t want to let myself start feeling like we’re not on the same team.
I’ve never had strong betas, but I have had chemicals after adequate doubling of low numbers and then a fizzle showing up on a third test. So if this time my doctor isn’t doing a third test, it must be because he thinks my numbers are promising in a way they haven’t been before. That’s what I’m focusing on.
We just got the call our third BETA results are in. It went from 106 on Wednesday, to 242 on Friday, to 882 today! They finally scheduled the ultrasound for January 7th. So thankful to have this news today!!
@telda715 What an awesome Christmas present (if you celebrate!) Or an awesome New Year's present! Will make the holidays brighter I bet
~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
Fall 2012 -- started TTC Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016. September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo. Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice. August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18 September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2 January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
@telda715 thats awesome! I'm so happy for your good news.
Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates!!!
Me: 33 (no known issues)
DH: 33 (lower motility; 0 morphology) TTC since Oct 2013 IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI) ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016 IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@telda715 that's awesome! congratulations! @elvedon how are you doing? any updates? @ndz2018 you're lucky you're having your next OB appt at 12 weeks! mine is not until 15 weeks! so annoyed! I'm still anxious so I'm not trying to take anything to help with the nausea because that's the only thing that reassure me during this wait. i promise my self I will start celebrating for real after that appointment, because i would have passed the 1st trimester and at that stage the rate of m/s drops dramatically and beside I never made that far sending everyone love and positive thoughts, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
it's pretty quiet in here! how is everyone doing? I have been really busy and stressed waiting on my next appointment and thanks God it went well! baby is fine and growing my OB said it might be a boy! but it will be confirmed on my next appt with my high risk dr on 027/07 @ndz2018 how did your appointment go?
@babydust2507 this is not a permanent post like FETs and IVF s. This changes weekly and they do weekly check in s. We have 2nd Trimester weekly check ins you should join us there
Re: 1st Trimester Check In W/O 12/17
I've never heard of someone having to take those shots for what I would consider very very late preterm birth. Is there some reason they think you're at high risk of preterm birth again? I've seen those shots being given for very early preterm labor prone women but I feel like I would personally be hesitant to take them if I had only been a few days preterm.
Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2
January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle
March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
"When all is lost then all is found."
@telda715 FX for doubling numbers today!
@blackhottamales Ask you doc if they will prescribe you Reglan for the MS works like a charm for me.
Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
@Griffin5413, i wish i have something to say/advice to you, to release you from some stress, but I don't, sorry... so hard to make a decision when we don't you know anything about what they're suggesting us and what google has too it's just too scary! and something what we find online it's most of the time not reality. i hope you find a response to your question in the other forums since they're further along like you said. did your son have any complications for being born pre-term?
@mamak225 - maybe I will talk to my ob about doing them later in the pregnancy rather than starting at 16 weeks. Especially since waiting maybe until 28 weeks either way baby has a high liklihood of surviving should I go. I'm clearly not opposed to giving myself shots b/c I've been doing it through the 1st 13 weeks every day. I like your idea though.
@babydust2507 - thanks for the support
I'm going to call my fertility dr to see what he has to say too.
TTC since Oct 2013
IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@telda715 - FX for you ... waiting to hear the good news
Me - anovulatory, non-Insulin PCOS, DH - low end of "normal" sperm count
IUI#1 - 02/15 - Cancelled due to scrubbed sperm count <1MM
IVF#1 - 08/15 - 13x5-day blastocysts (ranging from AA-BB, most are 5 or 6), not PGS, on ice
FET#1 - 10/15 - 1 emb - BFP (DD 07/16) (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#2 - 07/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#3 - 08/17 - 1 emb - BFN (estrace + PIO sesame oil + prometrium)
FET#4 - 10/17 - 2 emb - BFN (changed to estrace + prometrium because of allergic reaction to PIO sesame oil)
ERA Testing - 12/17 - window moved (-1 day)
FET#5 - 03/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
Karyotype Testing - 04/18 - Negative (we're ok)
FET#6 - 06/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#7 - 10/18 - 2 emb - BFN (estrace + prometrium, ERA-timing used)
FET#8 - 11/18 - 2 emb - BFP; looks like one baby is going to make it, DD is due 8/16 (though likely to be 8/9)
I am genuinely not worried at this point. I remember getting a faint positive for my daughter (10 years ago), when I was a week further along when I found out I was pregnant with her. I am also choosing to celebrate and stay positive, because we have wanted this for so long. I’d rather spend the time celebrating the success and enjoy the process, than stressing.
@Griffin5413 I have never heard of a Makena shot. No advice on that one! But am also on a couple medicines with those same side effects listed. (I have Crohn’s disease and take biologic infusions and anti-inflammatory pills.) I feel like most medicines list those as a standard. You have to do what you are comfortable with. It’s your baby and your body! Definitely ask the questions to put your mind at ease either way.
Personally, I think you should do whatever soothes your anxiety BUT will getting the extra blood tests actually help or will you obsess over those numbers? Think about what you would do with the test results if you got them -- good or bad. I think your betas are very good and you should stay positive about them. Maybe get some cheapie tests and just make sure your lines are staying dark?
Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2
January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle
March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
"When all is lost then all is found."
If it makes you feel any better, your numbers are higher than mine! 13dp5dt I was 106, and two days later (yesterday) it was 246. My outlook is what will be, will be.
Sending positive thoughts!!
I’ve never had strong betas, but I have had chemicals after adequate doubling of low numbers and then a fizzle showing up on a third test. So if this time my doctor isn’t doing a third test, it must be because he thinks my numbers are promising in a way they haven’t been before. That’s what I’m focusing on.
What an awesome Christmas present (if you celebrate!)
Will make the holidays brighter I bet
Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2
January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle
March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
"When all is lost then all is found."
Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates!!!
TTC since Oct 2013
IVF round 1 January 2016 (w/ ICSI)
ER: February 17, 2016; 15 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 11 fertilized
Day 5 Blastocysts: 8 sent for PGS - 5 Normal
FET date: April 12, 2016 - DS born Dec 7, 2016
IVF round 2: FET : Oct 4 - 1st Beta 188!
@elvedon how are you doing? any updates?
@ndz2018 you're lucky you're having your next OB appt at 12 weeks! mine is not until 15 weeks! so annoyed! I'm still anxious so I'm not trying to take anything to help with the nausea because that's the only thing that reassure me during this wait. i promise my self I will start celebrating for real after that appointment, because i would have passed the 1st trimester and at that stage the rate of m/s drops dramatically and beside I never made that far
sending everyone love and positive thoughts, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
@ndz2018 how did your appointment go?