I always get so nervous opening this thread when so many comments appear in one day. I’m glad to see it’s good news for you @sparklingdiamond
@bakerstreetboys will be keeping fingers crossed for you tomorrow!
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Me: 33 DH:30 DD: Aug '16 10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks. 10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery 11/2/17 Twin A & B born 11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU Benched 6 months BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
@sparklingdiamond Don't feel bad. I know I don't speak for everyone who may be in limbo, but I still love hearing the success stories. Everyone on this thread (and in all threads, obv.) deserves happiness and a healthy baby.
@antera23 I know how much something like cramps can freak out PGAL brains. I’ll be thinking of you and your upcoming appointment. I hope it all goes well.
@antera23 I have been having a weird sharp pain on one side that has been freaking me out too. It's not really crampy but not sure what it is. It's so hard to not overanalyze everything though I'm sorry, when is your u/s again?
Any of you that have been on progesterone, when did you come off? I wasn't on it with my son and I am pretty sure with my daughter it was 12 weeks. I asked my RE today and he said I can come off it in 5 days, which would be 10 weeks. That seems a little early to me?
@sparklingdiamond I was on prog with DD and I quit at 12 weeks. They say the placenta starts to take over around 10 and is fully “responsible” at 12 weeks so maybe that’s why they said 10?
There is no winning with these symptoms. Too many, not enough. I’m ready to put the first tri in the rear view mirror. Then I feel guilty because if this pregnancy pans out it will be my last one. And thinking about closing the book on this chapter makes me want to cry. Hormones a bit, overtired a lot but it’s also just a sad thought. If money was no object I’d want two more. We make fantastic babies 😍
@sparklingdiamond are you with a different doctor this time? I’m sure you’ve said this before but I have the retention of a gnat right now. Overworked and overtired.
3. How are you feeling? Emotionally and physically? Emotionally i'm a mess like all of you. My due date is the same as my due date for my loss so it's so so hard. I just am constantly thinking of that. My best friend found out her pregnancy was not viable and she was also due in June so that is so hard. Ugh. Physically ok. Tired as all get out today.
4. Any appointment updates? Next appointment on the 27th. First u/s and I can't wait to get it over with.
5. Rants/Raves/Questions? Rant - I just want to tell my six year old so bad. She LOVES all things pregnancy and baby related but I just can't tell her yet. I did finally tell my mom so i'm feeling very relieved over that.
3. How are you feeling? Emotionally and physically? I am so exhausted physically and because of that I haven't been able to think much about how I'm feeling emotionally. I know the next couple of weeks will be hard since I'm coming up on when I lost my last two.
4. Any appointment updates? My first appointment with the midwife is 12/7. I will almost be 11 weeks at that point. I don't have an u/s scheduled. I am hoping they let me schedule one at my midwife appointment.
5. Rants/Raves/Questions? I'm not sure why they always make me wait so long for my first appointment. All of mine have been around 10 weeks but sometimes I don't make it that far.
6. Any milestones coming up? no
7. GTKY: What is your pet peeve? People who don't respond to your messages in a timely fashion.
@ncm1919 I’m wishing away my first trimester too, and I feel so guilty about it as well. But it’s such a hard time after experiencing a loss. My last pregnancy lasted over a very busy summer, and the first trimester nearly flew by, then it was all over. I told myself that the next time I got pregnant, I would slow down and take time to really take it all in. But now that it’s here, I just wish I could be at that 12 week appointment and find out that I made it through the first tri.
@sparklingdiamond My RE actually took me off progesterone as soon as they confirmed the pregnancy. They test my levels without it, and it was fine. I worried about it a bit, but can't say I miss those pills.
@antera23 I'm right there with you, analyzing every cramp and twinge. They're pretty normal in pregnancy, but of course PGAL brain takes over. I hope today goes by quickly for you.
@pai314 I'm dying to tell my kids too, but I just can't yet. I don't want to have to explain everything and have them so disappointed if things don't go well.
My u/s is in two hours and I'm at work until then. It isn't going to be a productive couple of hours, that's for sure. I didn't have my usual nausea this morning, so of course I'm freaking out. Like many of you, I'd rather just blank out until the second trimester.
* Baby is fine* but I feel the pgal ladies are the only ones who will get it. Sorry, it’s long. TL:DR baby has a small SCH.
I wasn’t sure I was going to talk about this at all (mostly because The ER doc made me feel so stupid) but I need to get it off my chest. I had spotting AGAIN this week. I just had an US last Thursday and baby was measuring ahead and fine, so I was only mildly worried. But I didn’t have anymore morning sickness for a few days.
I was on my feet a lot for work for four days in a row. I stopped in the ER after my shift. I don’t think I have ever been treated so shitty as a patient in my entire life. They checked my HcG and it was 114k. Which IMO was lower than I should be at 9 weeks. I told them about my declining symptoms. The ER doc told me that at that high of an HcG, it was probably in my head. He kept insisting I had a vaginal infection and he wanted to do a pelvic exam and give me an IV for fluid. I refused both and asked for them to instead check to see if the bleeding was coming from baby. He told me that an US was too expensive of a test for me at this point since it wasn’t “clinically significant.” And that also, they couldn’t do anything for me if it was a threatened miscarriage, I would have to follow up with my OB.
I started crying and explained I have had three losses and this is how one of them started. All I wanted was to know if baby had a heartbeat. He still refused. The two nurses just stood there and looked at me. I felt like they didn’t believe me. He left and said he wanted to talk to another nurse. The other nurse came back five minutes later, didn’t look at me and logged into the computer while talking to me. She said the doctor is insisting on a pelvic exam so they can treat me for an infection tonight. I gathered my stuff at this point and said, don’t bother, I’m leaving.
I went home home and sobbed most of the night while DH tried to comfort me. I should have called my OB the next morning, but by then the spotting was brown and basically gone. And I felt like as a patient for the first time, I didn’t matter.
My OB a day later saw the visit to ER on my chart and called me herself. I explained what happened and she had me come in for an US (this was yesterday afternoon). Baby is looking just fine. Measuring another day ahead and heart beat in the 160’s. It turns out I have a small SCH that is most likely causing the bleeding. She couldn’t believe they didn’t even attempt to look at baby in the ER.
Would you guys fight the ER bill when it comes? I kind of want to and hope I get a survey in the mail.
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Me: 33 DH:30 DD: Aug '16 10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks. 10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery 11/2/17 Twin A & B born 11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU Benched 6 months BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
@meatballs37 I'm sorry you were treated so horribly. I can't understand why they would insist on a pelvic exam; that seems ridiculous. And refusing to even give you a quick u/s when you have a history of loss?! Granted, our medical system is different here, but I can't believe you were treated like that and refused. I'm so happy that your OB sounds like an amazing doctor, and that she could get you in to see what was going on. I'd fight the ER bill for sure and probably request a survey or make a complaint; even if it doesn't do any good, at least you will have tried. Regardless of everything that happened, I'm glad baby looks great
ETA: how much would you be charged for something like that?
@meatballs37 That's appalling and I'm so sorry you were treated that way. I would absolutely fight the bill as a matter of principle. I would also call the hospital and find out how to file a complaint. SCH's are diagnosed all the time in the ER, so using the cost of an US was just a bs excuse to be an ass. That was inexcusable and at the very least, the doctor should find out he was wrong.
The thing that makes it tricky, I work for the hospital and so does my husband. I do plan on fighting the bill. It would be probably a $200 co-pay
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Me: 33 DH:30 DD: Aug '16 10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks. 10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery 11/2/17 Twin A & B born 11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU Benched 6 months BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
@meatballs37 that makes it even worse that you both work there and were treated that way! So sorry, I hope they don’t bill you and you can avoid the extra stress.
I hope none of the other loss moms here get treated as poorly. If anything I think PGAL moms should be handled with more care. Luckily my OB has always made us feel reassured.
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Me: 33 DH:30 DD: Aug '16 10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks. 10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery 11/2/17 Twin A & B born 11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU Benched 6 months BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
and I do get that it’s tricky since you and your husband work there but I’d still consider lodging a complaint like @dntstpbelieveing suggested. It is more than just terrible bedside manner in my opinion.
So happy you got to see baby and everything looks great! Best silver lining ever!
@bakerstreetboys thinking about you today. Hope your appointment goes well! @meatballs37 omg, I am so sorry, first that you were spotting and second that you were treated that way. I know it’s tricjy bc you work there but no patient should be treated that way, so I would file a complaint and fight your bill. His reasoning for not giving you a US is not acceptable, I mean seriously it takes less than 2 minutes to get a quick glance at baby. (My last US was seriously less than 2 minutes long bc they were just checking for growth!) so it can’t cost that much, not to mention I know of a few doctors personally who have given their friends/family members free US’ for peace of mind. Anyways, now I’m rambling...I’m just so mad for you! But I’m glad baby is ok and it sounds like your OB is wonderful 😁 finally, hope your SCH resolves itself quickly.
@meatballs37 Oh I absolutely would fight that bill. I can't believe they treated you like that! There is no excuse. And to push for a pelvic exam when you already said no. Can you complain about the doctor?
Ok. Sorry for taking over this thread today. But I just talked to one my my Aug 16 moms who is an ER doc. And she said that every ER she has worked in, they put restrictions on when they can call radiology. It’s a cost issue for the hospital I guess. Which I think is ridiculous since we pay over 6k in premiums every year. And since I had already had it confirmed my pregnancy wasn’t ectopic, it wasn’t deemed an emergency to have an US done. Looks like the ER docs hands were tied, but he never explained that to me, put it back on me, and made me feel awful. So just a heads up I guess if any of you go to the ER after your OB closes.
This is healthcare in america...smh. Expensive and poorly run.
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Me: 33 DH:30 DD: Aug '16 10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks. 10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery 11/2/17 Twin A & B born 11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU Benched 6 months BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
@meatballs37 no. Just no. I'm so sorry you recieved that treatment and from where you work none the less. When I went to the ER last week, they didnt believe me either. When they asked how much I was bleeding and I said "I'm not, it was just when used the bathroom" I felt immediately that they were not convinced I was MCing. I got in and then explained it all to the ER doc including my past MMC. They got me to radiology and gave me the US. Granted I was behind at the last one but they didn't blow me off (like my OB did, remember, he said it was fine....). So I would definitely make a complaint for how you were treated. I do understand that there are things they can and cannot do but empathy towards ANY patient is required. I'm hurt and angry for you.
@meatballs37 you aren’t hijackinganything. You need support and we will give you support! I can’t believe they treated you that way in the ER. I would really encourage you to put in a complaint. If they treated you like that then they will treat others that way also. Im so sorry you had to go through that. Your OB did a great job following up with you. I’m glad she did that!
@meatballs37 the healthcare system here makes me so frustrated too. I would definitely complain, especially if you received no real services when you were in the ER (I assume they probably did take your blood pressure and do a quick triage).
*TW* When I went to the ER a few months back and discovered my MMC, they offered me no other options other than going home, taking Tylenol for the pain, and following up with my OB in a week. They didn’t even inform me about what could happen. And now that I know a thing or two about it all, they had no reason to think that things would resolve themselves. *END TW*
*TW We saw the lovely heart beat at our ultrasound today, but the relief between that and meeting with the RE was short lived. The u/s tech noticed abnormalities with the baby’s head shape, which the RE confirmed. It’s still very early at 8 weeks, but we were left with nothing other than “come back in a week and we’ll take another look”. I don’t even know what to think, say or do right now other than cry. I think I’m in shock that something else is wrong other than a possible MMC again. I’m not sure how much more of this mental stress I can take.
Oh @bakerstreetboys I'm so unbelievably sorry. I hate that you are now going to have a terribly stressful week. I was hoping so much for only the best news for you today. Sending so many hugs to you, friend. I'm here if you need to talk
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Me: 33 DH: 32 DS: March 2014 DD: May 2015 BFP: 12/24/17 CP: 1/2/18 @ 4w 3d BFP: 1/26/18 CP: 2/2/18 @ 4w 4d BFP: 5/16/18 MMC: 6/15/18 @ 7w 5d BFP: 9/25/18! EDD: 6/9/19 TEAM GREEN
@bakerstreetboys oh my gosh. I’m so incredibly sorry. I didn’t realize they would notice something like that so early. I hope they are wrong and maybe it was just the angle or that it’s so early. It’s so fricken unfair that you are now left to worry for a whole week now. We are all here to support you and lift you up this next week. Lean on us as much as you need.
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Me: 33 DH:30 DD: Aug '16 10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks. 10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery 11/2/17 Twin A & B born 11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU Benched 6 months BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
Re: PGAL Week of 11/11
@bakerstreetboys will be keeping fingers crossed for you tomorrow!
DD: Aug '16
10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks.
10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery
11/2/17 Twin A & B born
11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU
Benched 6 months
BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO
BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
Any of you that have been on progesterone, when did you come off? I wasn't on it with my son and I am pretty sure with my daughter it was 12 weeks. I asked my RE today and he said I can come off it in 5 days, which would be 10 weeks. That seems a little early to me?
@sparklingdiamond my ultrasound is on Friday. You’re right, every little twinge makes me scared. PGAL brain makes it so hard to relax.
@TJtheGoat thank you!
@ncm1919 I agree! I find myself worried about the lack of symptoms and then cursing them when come back.
2. Previous loss(es)? 1 MMC
3. How are you feeling? Emotionally and physically? Emotionally i'm a mess like all of you. My due date is the same as my due date for my loss so it's so so hard. I just am constantly thinking of that. My best friend found out her pregnancy was not viable and she was also due in June so that is so hard. Ugh. Physically ok. Tired as all get out today.
4. Any appointment updates? Next appointment on the 27th. First u/s and I can't wait to get it over with.
5. Rants/Raves/Questions? Rant - I just want to tell my six year old so bad. She LOVES all things pregnancy and baby related but I just can't tell her yet. I did finally tell my mom so i'm feeling very relieved over that.
6. Any milestones coming up? no
7. GTKY: What is your pet peeve?
2. Previous loss(es)? 1 MC 8 weeks, 1MMC 9 weeks
3. How are you feeling? Emotionally and physically? I am so exhausted physically and because of that I haven't been able to think much about how I'm feeling emotionally. I know the next couple of weeks will be hard since I'm coming up on when I lost my last two.
4. Any appointment updates? My first appointment with the midwife is 12/7. I will almost be 11 weeks at that point. I don't have an u/s scheduled. I am hoping they let me schedule one at my midwife appointment.
5. Rants/Raves/Questions? I'm not sure why they always make me wait so long for my first appointment. All of mine have been around 10 weeks but sometimes I don't make it that far.
6. Any milestones coming up? no
7. GTKY: What is your pet peeve? People who don't respond to your messages in a timely fashion.
Also I am on progesterone and will take it till 12 weeks.
@sparklingdiamond My RE actually took me off progesterone as soon as they confirmed the pregnancy. They test my levels without it, and it was fine. I worried about it a bit, but can't say I miss those pills.
@antera23 I'm right there with you, analyzing every cramp and twinge. They're pretty normal in pregnancy, but of course PGAL brain takes over. I hope today goes by quickly for you.
@pai314 I'm dying to tell my kids too, but I just can't yet. I don't want to have to explain everything and have them so disappointed if things don't go well.
My u/s is in two hours and I'm at work until then. It isn't going to be a productive couple of hours, that's for sure. I didn't have my usual nausea this morning, so of course I'm freaking out. Like many of you, I'd rather just blank out until the second trimester.
I wasn’t sure I was going to talk about this at all (mostly because The ER doc made me feel so stupid) but I need to get it off my chest. I had spotting AGAIN this week. I just had an US last Thursday and baby was measuring ahead and fine, so I was only mildly worried. But I didn’t have anymore morning sickness for a few days.
I was on my feet a lot for work for four days in a row. I stopped in the ER after my shift. I don’t think I have ever been treated so shitty as a patient in my entire life. They checked my HcG and it was 114k. Which IMO was lower than I should be at 9 weeks. I told them about my declining symptoms. The ER doc told me that at that high of an HcG, it was probably in my head. He kept insisting I had a vaginal infection and he wanted to do a pelvic exam and give me an IV for fluid. I refused both and asked for them to instead check to see if the bleeding was coming from baby. He told me that an US was too expensive of a test for me at this point since it wasn’t “clinically significant.” And that also, they couldn’t do anything for me if it was a threatened miscarriage, I would have to follow up with my OB.
I started crying and explained I have had three losses and this is how one of them started. All I wanted was to know if baby had a heartbeat. He still refused. The two nurses just stood there and looked at me. I felt like they didn’t believe me. He left and said he wanted to talk to another nurse. The other nurse came back five minutes later, didn’t look at me and logged into the computer while talking to me. She said the doctor is insisting on a pelvic exam so they can treat me for an infection tonight. I gathered my stuff at this point and said, don’t bother, I’m leaving.
I went home home and sobbed most of the night while DH tried to comfort me. I should have called my OB the next morning, but by then the spotting was brown and basically gone. And I felt like as a patient for the first time, I didn’t matter.
My OB a day later saw the visit to ER on my chart and called me herself. I explained what happened and she had me come in for an US (this was yesterday afternoon). Baby is looking just fine. Measuring another day ahead and heart beat in the 160’s. It turns out I have a small SCH that is most likely causing the bleeding. She couldn’t believe they didn’t even attempt to look at baby in the ER.
Would you guys fight the ER bill when it comes? I kind of want to and hope I get a survey in the mail.
DD: Aug '16
10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks.
10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery
11/2/17 Twin A & B born
11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU
Benched 6 months
BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO
BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
@meatballs37 I'm sorry you were treated so horribly. I can't understand why they would insist on a pelvic exam; that seems ridiculous. And refusing to even give you a quick u/s when you have a history of loss?! Granted, our medical system is different here, but I can't believe you were treated like that and refused. I'm so happy that your OB sounds like an amazing doctor, and that she could get you in to see what was going on. I'd fight the ER bill for sure and probably request a survey or make a complaint; even if it doesn't do any good, at least you will have tried. Regardless of everything that happened, I'm glad baby looks great
ETA: how much would you be charged for something like that?
ETA: I'm glad the baby looks good!
The thing that makes it tricky, I work for the hospital and so does my husband. I do plan on fighting the bill. It would be probably a $200 co-pay
DD: Aug '16
10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks.
10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery
11/2/17 Twin A & B born
11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU
Benched 6 months
BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO
BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
DD: Aug '16
10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks.
10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery
11/2/17 Twin A & B born
11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU
Benched 6 months
BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO
BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
and I do get that it’s tricky since you and your husband work there but I’d still consider lodging a complaint like @dntstpbelieveing suggested. It is more than just terrible bedside manner in my opinion.
So happy you got to see baby and everything looks great! Best silver lining ever!
@meatballs37 omg, I am so sorry, first that you were spotting and second that you were treated that way. I know it’s tricjy bc you work there but no patient should be treated that way, so I would file a complaint and fight your bill. His reasoning for not giving you a US is not acceptable, I mean seriously it takes less than 2 minutes to get a quick glance at baby. (My last US was seriously less than 2 minutes long bc they were just checking for growth!) so it can’t cost that much, not to mention I know of a few doctors personally who have given their friends/family members free US’ for peace of mind. Anyways, now I’m rambling...I’m just so mad for you! But I’m glad baby is ok and it sounds like your OB is wonderful 😁 finally, hope your SCH resolves itself quickly.
@meatballs37 Oh I absolutely would fight that bill. I can't believe they treated you like that! There is no excuse. And to push for a pelvic exam when you already said no. Can you complain about the doctor?
This is healthcare in america...smh. Expensive and poorly run.
DD: Aug '16
10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks.
10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery
11/2/17 Twin A & B born
11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU
Benched 6 months
BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO
BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18
@meatballs37 no. Just no. I'm so sorry you recieved that treatment and from where you work none the less. When I went to the ER last week, they didnt believe me either. When they asked how much I was bleeding and I said "I'm not, it was just when used the bathroom" I felt immediately that they were not convinced I was MCing. I got in and then explained it all to the ER doc including my past MMC. They got me to radiology and gave me the US. Granted I was behind at the last one but they didn't blow me off (like my OB did, remember, he said it was fine....). So I would definitely make a complaint for how you were treated. I do understand that there are things they can and cannot do but empathy towards ANY patient is required. I'm hurt and angry for you.
@bakerstreetboys thinking of you today!
*TW* When I went to the ER a few months back and discovered my MMC, they offered me no other options other than going home, taking Tylenol for the pain, and following up with my OB in a week. They didn’t even inform me about what could happen. And now that I know a thing or two about it all, they had no reason to think that things would resolve themselves. *END TW*
We saw the lovely heart beat at our ultrasound today, but the relief between that and meeting with the RE was short lived.
The u/s tech noticed abnormalities with the baby’s head shape, which the RE confirmed. It’s still very early at 8 weeks, but we were left with nothing other than “come back in a week and we’ll take another look”.
I don’t even know what to think, say or do right now other than cry. I think I’m in shock that something else is wrong other than a possible MMC again. I’m not sure how much more of this mental stress I can take.
DS: March 2014
DD: May 2015
BFP: 12/24/17 CP: 1/2/18 @ 4w 3d
BFP: 1/26/18 CP: 2/2/18 @ 4w 4d
BFP: 5/16/18 MMC: 6/15/18 @ 7w 5d
BFP: 9/25/18! EDD: 6/9/19 TEAM GREEN
DD: Aug '16
10/2017: Twins confirmed with TTTS at 22 weeks.
10/10/17 Twin B passed after in utero surgery
11/2/17 Twin A & B born
11/26/17: Twin A passed after 24 days fighting in the NICU
Benched 6 months
BFP: 6/28/18 MC:7/16/18 BO
BFP: 10/2/18 EDD 6/15/18