@knottieamusements I don’t think that’s what’s she’s arguing, either, but she did kinda equate the kind of socialization kids can get through day care with that through play dates and mom meet ups, which isn’t true, in my opinion.
I get the frustration of looking for day care.
I just want to say before I drop it that I never said anything about mom groups or playdates or bringing your kid to the park for socialization, so I'm not sure where that came from. There are other curriculum-based programs out there to bring young children to that aren't daycares. But yes, like @knottieamusements said, I was speaking more to the structural issue of child care.
I did say something about mom groups, I apologize if I offended anyone. My area here is small and there is a group of moms that host play dates 3-4 times a week for kids that I was referencing that was on my take similar to part time daycare on how they do it. Its always the same people that can go or they can even drop off a child for a bit if they get to know the group first. I don't think an hour at a library equals daycare level socialization nor that someone shouldn't be able to send their kid to daycare.
I think the structural issue is huge. It could cost me losing my house, car, and food to eat if I don't have care for my child, not everyone is in that dire of a situation but there needs to be options for those that are. My area is very very small and there aren't many day cares. When I came back from my first maternity leave I almost had to quit my job and sell my house. I was out another 4 weeks because the care I arranged and the back up care both fell through horribly. There are many benefits to daycare and I love that but its not just an option for some and I think that is a big issue.
I fully intend to put DS in part time daycare once this LO arrives. He goes full time currently while I'm working but I really hope I can find something for him come October 2-3 days a week. No shame. I'll be the first to admit I'm not sure I can handle two kids at home full time 5 days a week. Especially those first 6 months when I know I'll be very sleep deprived. But I do agree that we need more accessible daycare, more daycare spots in general. The waitlists are insane.
Yeah twilight was beyond creepy and dont even get me started on 50 shades. The worst.
If it makes anyone feel better, I work in engineering and construction in Denver, and I've been writing proposals for a crap ton of daycare centers. So they must know they're needed.
@jennybean80 seriously? What is on the green contacts that's different than blue?!?!
@mamabearcj +1 to not liking yellow mustard, but a good spicy Dijon has a lovely flavor.
Embarrassed to admit I've read all the twilight and 50 shades books. Yes, I agree, they are terrible. And Bella drove me insane in book #2 with her moping. Also, yeah 50 shades wasn't that kinky, I was more grossed out about the period sex bathtub scene. Thank God that didn't make the movie. To each their own I suppose.
It is not the fault of SAHMs that daycare spots are hard to get. Some parents need daycare, regardless of whether they work.
Harry Potter movies were such a let down. The green/blue eyes thing was bc Daniel Radcliffe can’t wear contacts for some reason. Agreed that there was too much artsy stuff generally.
I read all the twilight and 50 shades books. Creepy AF but they do pull you in. I was super annoyed with the 50 shades ones though about never having a plot. You keep expecting there to be a conflict and there never is one. Just more sex and occasional relationship issues.
I feel like I’m the only one in the world who hasn’t read any of the twilight or 50 shades books. Never saw the appeal, and it sounds like I’m not missing much!
@jynjer91 hot dogs should never be tarnished with mustard. Why ruin a good hot dog with mustard??
I enjoyed reading Twilight, but would never recommend it. Her other book, 'The Host' I think, was way better. I'm a total sci-fi, fantasy genre type of a person tho, so if you don't like that kind of thing, don't bother. I've read about Daniel Radcliff being allergic to the contacts, cuz that was a big problem for a lot of people! Which it is very much a recurring thing about him having his mother's eyes. How can anyone not like cats!!!??? (Insert sad kitty face gif, because my phone is being super annoying and not loading any gifs) Actually, just kidding. I love cats, but DH despises them, so I'm used to it. What annoys me is when my SIL pushes cats in people's faces even though they don't like them, and she knows it. She has on occasion thrown them on DIL when he's relaxing on a recliner, then gets mad at him when he smacks the cat or something cuz it clawed him. Did I mention SIL is 20 something? Should totally know better.
I like dogs...that belong to other people. And don't slobber on me. And don't stink. And don't bark.
Yeah, pretty sure that just makes me a cat person.
You’d like my dog. She’s shy and scared of people, so she runs and hides when strangers come around. She hides in our room and doesn’t bark because she doesn’t want people to walk towards her lmao
Me: 33 DH: 31 Location: Castle Rock, CO DD: 10.13.18 baby #2 due: 7.14.20
Never read Twilight, Harry Potter, or 50 shades. Never saw the movies for any of them except first 2 HP and 50 Shades while bored on a plane. I thought it was dumb. The first HP movie was entertaining but then I checked out. Also never got into any other series...no LOTR or anything. Never heard of that 13 Things show, either. I feel like I’m under a rock!
No thoughts on PT daycare since the only daycare we are adamant about is work daycare and that is for employees so the number of SAHM’s is low. But I can totally see how that would suck to have a spot taken.
I don’t like cats or dogs. I’m allergic to cats and dogs just annoy me.
Just a suggestion for SAHMs needing a break (not that I see any issue with utilizing daycare) but Mother’s Day Out programs might be a good option as well. DD went starting at 15 months and it was great. It was 2 days a week for 4 hours a day, so I got my break from her for prenatal appointments then to spend time with DS after he was born. Plus it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than daycare (at least where I am).
Meh, I’m a full time working mom and I could never hack it as a SAHM. I’m totally in favor if they want to utilize daycare for a few days a week. Otherwise they essentially never get a single day off, which is crazy. The lack of daycares in the US is insane but I don’t begrudge anyone who uses it. Well, I’d begrudge a SAHM who uses it 5 days a week though.
I used to get annoyed that so many local events are during weekdays, but I quickly decided that sahm’s need the events more than I do, when I only need to fill 2 days a week. We are all just trying to survive!
Spoiler alert, but since we're on the subject of 13 reasons why.
My favorite part of season 1 was how after Hannah's tapes concluded, she was just gone. You didn't hear her voice anymore, you didn't see her in flashbacks, she was just gone. It really drove home the fact that she was dead. I felt like it was powerful. I think the 2nd season would e a lot better if it treated Hannah like she was actually dead. Clay's hallucinations of her and the constant flashbacks make it feel like she's still alive. I feel like it's taking a step back and doing a disservice to suicide awareness. When you commit suicide, you're gone forever.
Ladybug - April 2013 Dandelion - October 2018 Angel "Aurora" - July 2020 Angel "Sawyer" - May 2021 Angel "Maxine" - January 2022 Angel "Violet" - March 2022 Baby Dove due March 2023
Meh, I’m a full time working mom and I could never hack it as a SAHM. I’m totally in favor if they want to utilize daycare for a few days a week. Otherwise they essentially never get a single day off, which is crazy. The lack of daycares in the US is insane but I don’t begrudge anyone who uses it. Well, I’d begrudge a SAHM who uses it 5 days a week though.
I used to get annoyed that so many local events are during weekdays, but I quickly decided that sahm’s need the events more than I do, when I only need to fill 2 days a week. We are all just trying to survive!
This is very very true being a SAH is not something I would consider easy at all. I don't know if I could handle it or not. I would love the opportunity to try, probably not in the cards though. I am coming to terms with events being at times that I can't do but my biggest gripe isn't even the events so much as I just want mom friends who get it. I work in IT and its all men, it would be nice to have someone to talk to about mom things and I guess thats why I love TB so much. Even though I am busy as hell I can still talk to people who understand what I am going through. Making local mom friends hasn't gone over well since I am the rando that shows up when something is in a time frame I can manage like once a year.
This is very very true being a SAH is not something I would consider easy at all. I don't know if I could handle it or not. I would love the opportunity to try, probably not in the cards though. I am coming to terms with events being at times that I can't do but my biggest gripe isn't even the events so much as I just want mom friends who get it. I work in IT and its all men, it would be nice to have someone to talk to about mom things and I guess thats why I love TB so much. Even though I am busy as hell I can still talk to people who understand what I am going through. Making local mom friends hasn't gone over well since I am the rando that shows up when something is in a time frame I can manage like once a year.
I live in an affluent town where a lot of moms don't work. It's hard. (We have the smallest house in town, I'm not sure how we even snagged it!) But I did end up using Meetup.com to find a local Working Moms Group, which has been a great way to meet others who have the same constraints I do. All the events are on weekends of evenings. I'd check that out!
A huge portion of my social life that is being radically reduced for the next several years are adult only activities. There is a group of Moms in that circle that have the same issue I do, and so they created a Mom’s only monthly event. Yay! All their meet-ups (except 1 every few months) are adults only. Boo! If I can find time and a babysitter, I’m going to hang out at my regular things, not add a new thing...
@HoosOnFirst I guess no one within 50 miles of me has heard of meetup.com haha! I think I may start an event/group and see if it goes anywhere though, I didn't know this was a thing!
I feel like I’m the only one in the world who hasn’t read any of the twilight or 50 shades books. Never saw the appeal, and it sounds like I’m not missing much!
@jynjer91 hot dogs should never be tarnished with mustard. Why ruin a good hot dog with mustard??
Liking the first part of this (haven’t read them either)
but yellow mustard is delish!!! Especially on a hotdog!
- I've read and seen all of the Twilight movies and read all of the 50 Shades books. They are not good, but I still read them.
- I'm a huge HP fan, but I prefer the books. I am excited to read them to G (baby) and SS.
- I only like mustard when mixed with ketchup on a hamburger.
- Soft pretzels are my favorite, we had them as appetizers at our wedding.
- SS stayed most of the week with his nana before he started school, but spent one day a week at day care of socialization. I wish that they had sent him more. I don't feel nana is a good adult role model. However, I do understand the frustration of parents who only send their kid one day a week and making it harder on parents who need it because they are working.
my UO- I hate hot dogs, unless it is disguised and made into a corn dog.
Love mustard... a giant pretzel with stone ground mustard is definitely one of my most favorite things ever.
Looking for daycare for a three month old has been the most frustrating and stressful thing throughout my pregnancy. I did the math so many times actually wishing for a demotion (I know this sounds stupid now that I think about it) so I could justify not having to deal with it all and be a SAHM. There is definitely a problem with the system.
Don’t like cats, my dog is my best friend (at least in Michigan).
Re: UO Thursday (5/31)
I think the structural issue is huge. It could cost me losing my house, car, and food to eat if I don't have care for my child, not everyone is in that dire of a situation but there needs to be options for those that are. My area is very very small and there aren't many day cares. When I came back from my first maternity leave I almost had to quit my job and sell my house. I was out another 4 weeks because the care I arranged and the back up care both fell through horribly. There are many benefits to daycare and I love that but its not just an option for some and I think that is a big issue.
Anyways I will shut up now.
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Yeah twilight was beyond creepy and dont even get me started on 50 shades. The worst.
@mamabearcj +1 to not liking yellow mustard, but a good spicy Dijon has a lovely flavor.
Embarrassed to admit I've read all the twilight and 50 shades books. Yes, I agree, they are terrible. And Bella drove me insane in book #2 with her moping. Also, yeah 50 shades wasn't that kinky, I was more grossed out about the period sex bathtub scene. Thank God that didn't make the movie. To each their own I suppose.
Harry Potter movies were such a let down. The green/blue eyes thing was bc Daniel Radcliffe can’t wear contacts for some reason. Agreed that there was too much artsy stuff generally.
I read all the twilight and 50 shades books. Creepy AF but they do pull you in. I was super annoyed with the 50 shades ones though about never having a plot. You keep expecting there to be a conflict and there never is one. Just more sex and occasional relationship issues.
@jynjer91 hot dogs should never be tarnished with mustard. Why ruin a good hot dog with mustard??
I've read about Daniel Radcliff being allergic to the contacts, cuz that was a big problem for a lot of people! Which it is very much a recurring thing about him having his mother's eyes.
How can anyone not like cats!!!???
(Insert sad kitty face gif, because my phone is being super annoying and not loading any gifs)
Actually, just kidding. I love cats, but DH despises them, so I'm used to it.
What annoys me is when my SIL pushes cats in people's faces even though they don't like them, and she knows it. She has on occasion thrown them on DIL when he's relaxing on a recliner, then gets mad at him when he smacks the cat or something cuz it clawed him. Did I mention SIL is 20 something? Should totally know better.
DD 3/15/12
DD 6/3/14
#4 Due 10/26/18!
Me: 33 DH: 31
Location: Castle Rock, CO
DD: 10.13.18
baby #2 due: 7.14.20
Never read Twilight, Harry Potter, or 50 shades. Never saw the movies for any of them except first 2 HP and 50 Shades while bored on a plane. I thought it was dumb. The first HP movie was entertaining but then I checked out. Also never got into any other series...no LOTR or anything. Never heard of that 13 Things show, either. I feel like I’m under a rock!
No thoughts on PT daycare since the only daycare we are adamant about is work daycare and that is for employees so the number of SAHM’s is low. But I can totally see how that would suck to have a spot taken.
Team dog!
Just a suggestion for SAHMs needing a break (not that I see any issue with utilizing daycare) but Mother’s Day Out programs might be a good option as well. DD went starting at 15 months and it was great. It was 2 days a week for 4 hours a day, so I got my break from her for prenatal appointments then to spend time with DS after he was born. Plus it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than daycare (at least where I am).
I used to get annoyed that so many local events are during weekdays, but I quickly decided that sahm’s need the events more than I do, when I only need to fill 2 days a week. We are all just trying to survive!
My favorite part of season 1 was how after Hannah's tapes concluded, she was just gone. You didn't hear her voice anymore, you didn't see her in flashbacks, she was just gone. It really drove home the fact that she was dead. I felt like it was powerful.
I think the 2nd season would e a lot better if it treated Hannah like she was actually dead. Clay's hallucinations of her and the constant flashbacks make it feel like she's still alive. I feel like it's taking a step back and doing a disservice to suicide awareness. When you commit suicide, you're gone forever.
Dandelion - October 2018
Angel "Aurora" - July 2020
Angel "Sawyer" - May 2021
Angel "Maxine" - January 2022
Angel "Violet" - March 2022
Baby Dove due March 2023
A huge portion of my social life that is being radically reduced for the next several years are adult only activities. There is a group of Moms in that circle that have the same issue I do, and so they created a Mom’s only monthly event. Yay! All their meet-ups (except 1 every few months) are adults only. Boo! If I can find time and a babysitter, I’m going to hang out at my regular things, not add a new thing...
but yellow mustard is delish!!! Especially on a hotdog!
Once i dipped in a pretzel in mustard thinking it was cheese. I will never recover.
TTC since 2016
Due: October 12, 2018
Location: Ontario, Canada
- I've read and seen all of the Twilight movies and read all of the 50 Shades books. They are not good, but I still read them.
- I'm a huge HP fan, but I prefer the books. I am excited to read them to G (baby) and SS.
- I only like mustard when mixed with ketchup on a hamburger.
- Soft pretzels are my favorite, we had them as appetizers at our wedding.
- SS stayed most of the week with his nana before he started school, but spent one day a week at day care of socialization. I wish that they had sent him more. I don't feel nana is a good adult role model. However, I do understand the frustration of parents who only send their kid one day a week and making it harder on parents who need it because they are working.
Love mustard... a giant pretzel with stone ground mustard is definitely one of my most favorite things ever.
Looking for daycare for a three month old has been the most frustrating and stressful thing throughout my pregnancy. I did the math so many times actually wishing for a demotion (I know this sounds stupid now that I think about it) so I could justify not having to deal with it all and be a SAHM. There is definitely a problem with the system.
Don’t like cats, my dog is my best friend (at least in Michigan).