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IF Testing and Treatment 11/27

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Re: IF Testing and Treatment 11/27

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    @BusinessWife I am crushed for you. We were all hoping it was your cycle.  We will be rooting for you this next month.  Much love & hugs.  <3<3<3
  • @dreamscapes_ Sorry that you have to be here. Did you get your  CD3 testing done?
    If not, I’m sure the RE will run them.  Also on the infertility group theres a great Discussion it’s called LOW AMH LEVEL you should pop over there to take a look. 
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  • @thecolddoesbotherme Wow what a cycle! Sorry you had so much going on, but super glad it sounds like you got some good embryos! I hope you get more info on OHSS.

    dreamscapes_ Welcome. Sorry for the bad news you received. I hope that your consult with the RE goes well and gives you hope for a plan going forward.

    MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
    MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
    MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
    RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
    MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
    RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
    MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)

    RE #3: More testing 2023. 
    Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
    Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
    Lupron Depo March 2024.  Benched 3 months.  Hopefully FET after that.

    #BitterHagPartyOf1

  • So AF showed up today. I made an appointment with the RE office for Monday for some blood work and ultrasound to start the IVF process. I read through the paperwork they gave me about IVF and nearly had a nervous breakdown. I’ve been crying for the past half hour. I still can’t believe we’re at this point. DH told me to take a mental health day so I called out sick from work and am thinking of taking advantage of the BOGO coupon that Cold Stone just emailed me. 
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • @shortstack930 *hugs* I am so sorry. I'm sure it is tough to be at that point. I say go for the BOGO ice cream! Their birthday cake ice cream is on point. It's good you were able to take a mental health day. 
  • @shortstack930 *hugs* I'm so sorry you're hurting right now. Definitely take time for your mental health. Ice cream sounds like a pretty good idea too. We're all here for you, whatever you need.

    The bump is being weird right now, so I can't easily scroll back through this thread, but thank you to those who advised me to keep my monitoring on cd 11 for this second IUI cycle. I had my baseline today, and monitoring will be cd 11 (next Saturday). Quick question though: My AFC with my first cycle was 11 (6 follies on one side, 5 on the other), and this time it was 21 (10 on one side, 11 on the other). That seems like a huge jump to me. Has anyone else experienced that much change from one month to the next?
  • @shortstack930 Hugs. Deep breaths. It sucks to be at the point of IVF- it sucks a lot. Like, so much. It effing sucks. But you are here and you can do it. It is the best chance you will have at a baby and you CAN do it. We are all here for you.
  • madspunkmadspunk member
    edited December 2017

    @dreamscapes_ Just wanted to chime in and say sorry you find yourself here. The first few weeks of learning about the dx were some of the worst for me with all the wondering what it meant and what we were going to do, so I'm wishing some good comforting things, peace, and patience for you.

    @shortstack930 More hugs. I'm sorry this day has arrived for you where you're reading IVF paperwork. It sucks and it's unfair. Really unfair. But also - this day has arrived for you!! You've worked so hard to get here and gone through so much, and now IVF will increase your chances. You're going to rock this. I'm glad you took a mental health day today and I hope you get some ice cream. (@SkilledSailor Birthday cake flavor is my favorite!)

  • @ndz2018 I have not. My next period should start around the 10th, so not too long after the first appointment. Hopefully they can go ahead and run that then. I'll definitely check out that post, thank you.

    @laurad75 That's good to know, thank you! I have had the initial blood work done (everything was in normal range except for AMH), but my DH hasn't had any testing done. We initially had my testing done because I was being evaluated for PCOS, not for this, as we hadn't even started trying yet when the testing happened. Thank you!

    @dpjennifer Thank you! We'll see what happens and go from there.

    @shortstack930 I'm so sorry for your news :( I agree with @SkilledSailor, go for the ice cream. Sometimes that's what you need.

    @darkstar42 I haven't got a clue if that's a good jump or not, but that's amazing!

    @madspunk Thank you. It's definitely not a fun conversation to have.
    Me: 36 | DH: 35 | Married: 9.17.16
    Diminished ovarian reserve
    BFP: 4/14/2020 EDD: 12/20/2020
  • @shortstack930 What movie are you guys going to watch?
    Me: 36 | DH: 35 | Married: 9.17.16
    Diminished ovarian reserve
    BFP: 4/14/2020 EDD: 12/20/2020
  • @shortstack930 so sorry friend. I felt the same way reading my consent forms. It sucks. We are here for you, hugs  <3
  • @dreamscapes_ I’m sorry you find yourself here. Hopefully your RE will set up a good plan for you

    @shortstack930 I’m so sorry AF showed up. I’m glad your H got you ice cream & hope the movie was good!
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    @shortstack oh girl I hate that you got another BFN. I hope the ice cream and movie help alleviate the disappointment and help to distract for today. I am still cheering you on and check for your updates often! 
  • @shortstack930 big hugs
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • @kiwi2628 Yay! That is great news! So glad you’re feeling better about it today. 

    @laurad75 Thinking if you today! 
  • @kiwi2628 glad to see the number went up!
  • @ramzlau thanks girl, great to know I have you in my corner!
    @dreamscapes_ we ended up watching Never Let Me Go. It was really good but definitely kind of a downer. 
    @kiwi2628 that’s great news! And Wednesday or Thursday, ahhh!!!
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • @kiwi2628 that’s great news! What cycle day are you on now and how many days have you been stimming? ER possibly Wednesday ahh!!!
  • @shortstack930 In the event that something happen to H or I ill be putting in my will that my mother will be responsible for them and do as she sees fit. In the event we don’t pay for storage i think it said after 2 years or we tell them we will donate them. 
  • @shortstack930 it’s a bit different for us as it’s not legal to freeze blasts here, only fertilized eggs still at the 2pn stage. However we did agree they could be used for research but not beyond blastocyst stage and not transferred to another person. 
    Its also a bit of a non question for us though as I’m such a poor responder.
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • edited December 2017
    @madspunk  FF does have some ART options, but just be prepared - When you put, "Transfer," for example, it doesn't register that in a meaningful way for possibility of pregnancy signs or timing etc.  It's just a note on your chart that it happened that day.  I guess they are working on it...

    @shortstack930 I can't remember for sure, but I think we did choose to donate for research like how your H reasoned.  It would have been too hard for us to donate and think our children could be out there being raised by a completely different family, (whereas I think it would hypothetically be easier for us to adopt an embryo than donate our own, ironically), but too harsh or something to have them destroyed.  Like at least if they went to research, their little lives might mean something or contribute something to future couples, even if they might never be born. :/  it's so personal tho, and there's no right or wrong answer, as long as it's what feels right to you both. ❤

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  • kiwi2628kiwi2628 member
    edited December 2017
    @shortstack930 we decided if we both die we want to donate our embryos to another couple since we would both be dead and we would love to help out other people and since we will be dead, we won't have emotional ties to any kid that might come. If one of us died, or we divorced, we elected to donate to research so we could help couples in the future. We get to do IVF because other people donated, and I like the idea of paying it forward. It puts good juju into the universe (in my hippie-dippy opinion, lol).

    @beachbunnyxo123 tonight is night 9 of stims, CD 11. I am a slow responder apparently or (and this is JMO, haven't talked to a doctor about it yet), I over-suppressed from the estrogen priming. I think I over-suppressed because I suppress REAAAAALLY easily as we have seen from other cycles and BC with me. I will probably do 11-12 days of stims, which is still average, but generally a bit long for antagonist protocols which are usually more like 10 days of stims. 
  • kiwi2628 said:
    If one of us died, or we divorced, we elected to donate to research so we could help couples in the future.
    This is one of the things that I think is so interesting about ART and how much catching up the law has to do! In our case, if only one of us dies, the embryos become the "property" of the surviving spouse, and if we cant reach an agreement in the event of a divorce, they go to our RE after a certain amount of time.

    The reason I think that it's interesting is that we live in a marital property state, meaning certain things are considered joint property under the law, regardless of what one of us has to say about it, and it's not at all clear yet how that applies to something like frozen embryos. That's obviously really glossing over the details of the situation and law, but the whole time we were filling all of this stuff out, I was wondering just how much of it would actually hold up if it came down to an actual battle. I obviously never intend to find out, but as we all know, a lot of what happens through IF is stuff that none of us ever intended and it's tough not to consider all of the potential hurdles and outcomes.

    @BusinessWife, I think you meant to tag @shortstack930!! 
  • Sorry @zwink1 I saw your reply and didn't go back far enough to the OP
  • @emmasemm  Thanks, I will tell DH you said that about the ice cream!  That sounds like just the thing.... ;)
  • @BusinessWife so sorry friend. Glad to hear you’re able to go right into FET2. Treat yourself today. All the hugs. 
  • edited December 2017
    @KariAnn323 Welcome back!  *Hope you had a nice visit!  :) 

    Talking about all these IVF plans... DH and I briefly discussed this evening, and I mentioned if we were to have three failed transfers, the idea of repeating a retrieval (or two) so we could potentially use his other TESE samples and do pgs, which would be covered by insurance at that point bc of the three hypothetical losses.

    Here's hoping it doesn't come to that, tho...
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