@BusinessWife@dpjennifer thanks for the info! Since I’m not it tracking exact O dates, I think I’ll wait until I’m being monitored to start drinking it
@SkilledSailor I’m mostly enjoy it but there is still the back part of my brain that’s stressing about if I O’d already. I’m glad your new RE has what sounds like a good plan in place
@darkstar42 I’m so glad you switched drs. This new one sounds on top of it!
@kiwi2628 donthey hope those 2 new meds will give you more follies?
@BusinessWife I am so sorry friend. But I do want to say just how inspiring you are to still be speaking so positively despite the news you got today. Really speaks to your strength. Good things are coming your way. Hugs.
*lurking* @businesswife *hugs* I'm so sorry this cycle wasn't it! You're an amazingly strong woman and I aspire to have the grace that you do if our situations were reversed. All the hugs and love!
BFP 3/21/2020! OMG We're having TWINS! 4/17/2020 -------------------------------- LO arrived 11/9/2018! We have a baby! -------------------------------- Me: 33 | DH: 41 Married: March 2016 TTC #1/IUD out January 2017 PCOS dx January 2018 Medicated cycle 2.5mg Letrozole CD3-7 February 2018 BFP 3/10/2018! -------------------------------
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purplg8r Well, you could always start drinking it when you get your period for a week and a half. After that it gets questionable depending on when you O.
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks) MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks) MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP) RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017 MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP) RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017 MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023. Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing. Surgery for endometriosis January 2024 Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months. Hopefully FET after that.
@laurad75 Oh great! FX for you! How have you been feeling this week?
@kiwi2628 I know I just said this in the other thread but imma say it again. I understand it being disappointing but it is still early. Sending all the good vibes to your follies for them to catch up.
@dpjennifer Oh a mosaic stepping stone sounds pretty! I'm definitely not an expert in anything tile related other than googling tutorials.
@avrilmai I go back and forth between really liking our plan and feeling like we'll be wasting six months.
@purplg8r Haha I hear ya. I told myself we would take the next couple of months as a semi break from doing all the things but I can't stop temping. I just gotta know now.
@BusinessWife I'm so sorry things didn't work out this cycle. I was so hoping this would be it for you! Big *hugs* and be kind to yourself. We're here if you need anything. @Redpuma119 I was on letrozole last month for an IUI cycle and will be starting it again tomorrow. I had a baseline u/s and a monitoring u/s at cd 11.
AFM, I have a question for you ladies. Last month I went in for my monitoring u/s at cd 11. I had one follie at 17mm and another at 18mm, one on each side, and the nurse told us to trigger that night. Should I go in on cd 11 again for this cycle, or do you think cd 12 would be ok? I'm wondering if it would be better to give the follies another day to get a little bit bigger, but I don't want to O early. Thoughts?
@SkilledSailor Thank you for asking. My head cold seems to be doing a little better and I'm not as stuffy today. I went to acupuncture yesterday and she did some needle therapy around my sinus to help get the gross stuff flowing out - I felt like the dude from Hellraiser. I am so anxious for Saturday but I'm doing well.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@Redpuma119 I’ve been on Letrozole the past two months and I’ve been monitored with blood work and ultrasounds.
AFM: BFN this morning as expected. WFAF and then onward to IVF.
TTC History
Me: 35 DH: 34 Married 07/2012 DD born 07/2014 DD2 born 10/2018 DS born 10/2022
IF history: TTC #2 since January 2016 June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018 FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
*lurking* @businesswife *hugs* I'm so sorry this cycle wasn't it! You're an amazingly strong woman and I aspire to have the grace that you do if our situations were reversed. All the hugs and love!
@Redpuma119 I’m starting letrozole this cycle and my doctor isn’t monitoring me. I know that’s an unpopular choice, but when she explained it to me and my DH and I talked, we’re okay with it. The short version is that if you are doing only letrozole, you won’t get more than a few follies (and tend to get more if you start cd 3, cd 5 start gives a bigger push for O if that makes sense)... if you found out that you had two to four possible follies would you cancel the cycle? If you’d cancel for more than one then insist on monitoring. We know there are risks with multiples but the risk of more than twins is almost nonexistent with letrozole and we decided we’d rather risk twins than no baby.
@Redpuma119 I was monitored with every cycle that I took Letrozole. My last two IUI cycles were at the highest dose and caused a large cyst that required a cycle long break each time. My concern with no monitoring would be cysts, but you would catch those on a baseline the following cycle. Temping and OPKs were also a crapshoot for my letrozole cycles so I was glad to have the monitoring to pinpoint O.
Me: 31 Husby: 36 Married May 2014 TTC # 2 Since December 2021 Baby girl W born 2/2021 Our journey so far... (tw loss & infertility)
Diagnosis: Poor Egg Quality Working with an RE since March 2016 2 failed TI cycles 3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017 23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17 BFP 4.21.17 MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey: 12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted! 5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house! 1.1.20 Homestudy process started 3.14.20 First social worker visit 5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test! Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
@Redpuma119 yes I had monitoring, the thing about not doing monitoring is that you are taking a medicine and have no idea if it’s even helping you. My letrozole dose got bumped up for this reason. Without monitoring there’s no way to confirm how effective the medicine is working or possibly even O since temps are wonky on meds. Even with OPKs you still don’t know if you produce one follie or more and if the dose needs an increase. Plus what @tamalahoops said. I just don’t understand why a doc wouldn’t want to have monitoring since it could only help not hurt.
@darkstar42 go in on cd 11, you don’t want to miss O by waiting. They can always have you come again to check if you’re not ready. Also they should be doing BW as well as US so it doesn’t always just go by follie size. Your nurse may have had you trigger if you were already starting to surge.
AFM so I got the appointment for the Saline sono with another doctor at another office. This RE did get a catheter in for my IUI and wants me to have a full bladder that day since my uterus is tilted so that my bladder will push down the uterus to straighten the cervix a bit. I feel like ever since I asked my nurse has been super short and curt with me rushing me off the phone but whatever. It’s frustrating because I’m trying to get a calendar for meds and stimming so I know when to take time off since I have to ask work a month in advance. She keeps saying things like “well yes since that was what you chose” since I want to come off BCPs after next Thursday and start stimming after giving my body a cycle to regulate in January but she’s acting like I’m being non complaint and hasn’t been answering my emails. Any ladies who have started stimming how often and what times were you doing injections throughout the day? I’m trying to avoid doing injections at work at all costs because there are no private bathrooms only stalls in a common restroom with patients I treat and there’s no fridge to keep me them cold. Did anyone start meds like estrace the cycle before?
@adirat It's not comfortable to have the needles in your face but it does help. Acupuncture can fix just about anything. @shortstack930 Sorry for the BFN girl. Here's hoping AF comes soon so you can move on.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@shortstack930 so sorry for the bfn friend. When are you planning on starting an IVF cycle? Looks like a lot of us will be starting around the same time. Hope AF comes quick!
@shortstack930 So sorry for the BFN. I am excited for you to start IVF though! @beachbunnyxo123 I think it depends on your protocol and also doctors office. A lot of people I have talked to give themselves separate injections (one injection of menopur in the AM, one follistim injection in the PM, ganirelix in PM etc...), but my doctor has me mix them all together so I am getting 2-3 meds but only one 1 injection, which is nice. I was told I need to do it at night, but I could pick a time any time between 5 and 10 PM, and then I just have to be consistent, so I do my injection at 9 every night. And yes, I started estradiol (estrase) 8 DPO the cycle prior to starting stims. I did it for a total of 10 days, so I was actually on estrogen for CD 1-4 of my stim cycle, and I started stims on CD3.
@shortstack930 so sorry about the bfn. @beachbunnyxo123 I don't have any advice on the injections, but I'm glad you were able to get the appt with a different RE. i hope it relieves some of the anxiety.
TTC#1 10/2016 TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021 planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks, some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
@shortstack930. I'm so sorry about the bfn. Hopefully starting ivf helps bring you some renewed enthusiasm about ttc and gettin' yer babes ((((hugs)))) ❤❤❤
@beachbunnyxo123 I had an idea of my meds and had them ordered a little bit ahead, (except for one I couldn't order till last minute), but I had a schedule similar to what @kiwi2628 described. I did my injections around 7PM each night. NBD. I would try not to overthink it. If it comes to it and they want you to do multiple injection times in a day, it's for a very important reason, and you will cross that bridge when you get there. Maybe work has a pump room or other type of "closet" space you could at least have a little privacy, or worst case, slip out to your car. Not everything has to be refridgerated, and if so, just use a little insulated thermal pouch! (I got mine from 31), or keep it in your lunch bag. It's honestly not that big a deal to have to do it quickly in a stall, either tho, imho. I understand wanting to book time off ahead, but it may not really be possible. You dont know how your body will respond, even if you did have an exact start date for stimms, ER could be within a range of days there, so... it just comes with the territory. If there's one thing I've learned from this journey so far, it's lwtting go od my plans. The farther out I try to plan, I can pretty much guarantee I'll have to scrap it, so no sense in getting more than a step or two ahead of ourselves... (((big hugs)))
@beachbunnyxo123 That's frustrating I started out with evening injections (2) then added a morning injection (1). My timing was 7 AM and 7 PM so I would always be home -- my husband did mine and like you I didn't want to do any at work.
I did estrogen priming the cycle before IVF stims because of POI. It's very common. That, fortunately, is just pills or patches so no injections!
@beachbunnyxo123 I'm sorry that your RE office is being so rotten to you. Similar to what others have said, I almost always did my injections outside of work. One in the morning and one at night around 8 am and pm. I think there was only one time I had to do it at work because I needed to go in early and it was no big deal. I had everything ready to go so I just had to stick myself real quick. TBH if you can change your tampon in your work bathroom, you can do an injection in there.
Me: 31 Husby: 36 Married May 2014 TTC # 2 Since December 2021 Baby girl W born 2/2021 Our journey so far... (tw loss & infertility)
Diagnosis: Poor Egg Quality Working with an RE since March 2016 2 failed TI cycles 3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017 23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17 BFP 4.21.17 MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey: 12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted! 5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house! 1.1.20 Homestudy process started 3.14.20 First social worker visit 5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test! Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
<blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/tamalahoops">tamalahoops</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">@beachbunnyxo123 I'm sorry that your RE office is being so rotten to you. Similar to what others have said, I almost always did my injections outside of work. One in the morning and one at night around 8 am and pm. I think there was only one time I had to do it at work because I needed to go in early and it was no big deal. I had everything ready to go so I just had to stick myself real quick. TBH <b>if</b> <b>you</b> <b>can</b> <b>change</b> <b>your</b> <b>tampon</b> <b>in</b> <b>your</b> <b>work</b> <b>bathroom</b>, <b>you</b> <b>can</b> <b>do</b> <b>an</b> <b>injection</b> <b>in</b> <b>there</b>. </div> </blockquote> Lol Well put! ^^^THIS!!! ;)
TBH if you can change your tampon in your work bathroom, you can do an injection in there.
No, but really. The above is like, perfect. That first time its nice to have a peaceful environment in your own home, but after that it becomes Bing-Bang-Boom done. It gets quick and easy.
@Redpuma119 Oops sorry, Town of Highland south of the city. He used to live in West Jordan then moved out there last year.
@shortstack930 so sorry for the BFN. At least IVF is a different course of action and hopefully with positive results!!
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@darkstar42 Thanks for your response! As far as the trigger,
is there a specific number they want the follie to be at first?
@shortstack930 Thanks for the insight. I am wondering why I
haven’t been monitored. And as for the
BFN, so sorry girl. Even when we are expecting it, it doesn’t lessen the sting
of it. Thinking of you.
@sailing_mama Yeah, I am taking it starting day 3. I know
that the chances of multiples are less with this drug.. but I would stop if I had
4 for sure! But like you said, almost
non-existent. I feel a bit relieved that
my dr isn’t the only one who doesn’t monitor. But like @tamalahoops mentioned,
what if I have negative effects?
@beachbunnyxo123 you’re right, how will I know if it is working.
Not the way I thought my IVF cycle would go but its how it went
Started stim for IVF on 11/17 but then my nana suddenly passed away 11/20. The entire family from out of state (11 people) then ended up staying at my house all through until yesterday when all the services finished. So I also ended up surprise hosting Thanksgiving. IVF injections just became all business quick in my room with all the house guests it was hard to find a minute alone. I had a "vigorous" reaction to the injections and only stimmed for 7 days, got to mildly OHSS, and they quickly did the egg retrieval on Tuesday. I am still feeling like absolute crap with cramping, bloating, nausea, and abdomen and flank pain. Positive note they got 23 eggs, 21 mature, and as of right now we have 14 embryos. I got to see my 4 siblings all at the same time in 3 years, and they have all been so supportive of the IVF process. Kept the house clean, did home projects that were on the to do list, and were just generally amazing people despite the reason we all got together. Bad news because of the OHSS we can not do a fresh transfer and will do a frozen transfer in a month or so when my ovaries start behaving.
Anyone else have OHSS? When did you start feeling better? Its been 3 days and I'm still having so much pain. I have work tomorrow. I missed so much time for bereavement and the egg retrieval, I can't afford to miss anymore.
@ndz2018@beachbunnyxo123 once AF is here we will start doing all of the testing and procedures required for IVF and start stimming in early January for January ER and February FET.
@beachbunnyxo123 I’m glad you were able to switch doctors but I’m sorry the nurse is being such a jerk. I’m glad at least we’ll be going through IVF together!
Thank you all for the support. I went out and did some shopping today and got some greasy fast food for lunch to cheer myself up. Just waiting for AF to get this show on the road.
TTC History
Me: 35 DH: 34 Married 07/2012 DD born 07/2014 DD2 born 10/2018 DS born 10/2022
IF history: TTC #2 since January 2016 June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018 FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
@laurad75 - I wish you the best on your transfer! @BusinessWife - I'm so sorry! I hope this next cycle is yours! @beachbunnyxo123 - I didn't do estrace. Gonal-f you can keep out of the fridge for 28 days (or so) once you start using it. If you bring an insulated lunch bag with some ice packs you should be all set for the keeping meds cold that have to stay cold. Thats how they ship them after all. All my injections were at night. My husband gave them to me. I had him watch a youtube video before and he was a pro after the first day. As far a schedule like @BusinessWife said, its near impossible to plan ahead for when things will happen. Without fail for my IUI's it happened on a day I was working. Then my egg retrieval was 3-4 days before I thought it would be.
@Redpuma119 I'm not going to lie, I am a bit nervous. But I have done a lot of research (love that my new job is in healthcare, so I can read full articles and such!), and it seems that the risk of more than twins is almost non-existent with letrozole. If I were on Clomid, I'd feel differently. It also seems that 2-3 follicles are the 'sweet spot' for IUI, and without any trigger or additional meds, the risk of multiples (including twins) is still very low. I'm not sure how I feel about any negative effects, etc. I guess at this point I'm hoping that my first cycle with it will be the one, and I won't have to worry about it?
@Sailing_Mama - for my IUIs I did Letrazole 2.5mg for 5 days then a trigger shot. 2 of the cycles I had one good follicle. 1 cycle I had 2 follicles. I have no ovarian issues. I typically get side effects if there is any, and with the letrazole I had zero. I took it at night just in case it caused nausea. Good luck!
@kiwi2628@BusinessWife@adirat@tamalahoops thank you ladies for the information! I feel a little better knowing the injections won’t be as often as I thought they would. It’s hard going into IVF with no literal idea so I appreciate the info!
@BusinessWife you so hit the nail on the head, I’m such a control freak with planning and this whole process has really tested me. I know I need to let it go and just let it happen and unfold but I feel so out of control that I try to pull it back somehow. IF totally sucks!
Thanks to everyone else for your support and kind words I really appreciate it!!
@redpuma119 I was also monitored on letrozole by U/S and B/W.
@darkstar42 I would go in on CD 11. The follies seem like they were a good size when you triggered last time and they continue to grow after trigger. Plus they might grow faster and you don't want to miss it!
@shortstack930 sorry for the BFN. I'm glad you treated yourself to shopping.
@beachbunnyxo123 Any time, friend I'm like you guys. It was challenging for me to let go.
@madspunk POI = premature ovarian insufficiency. A close cousin of DOR, but for fragile x premutation they call it POI. Basically I have a reduced number of eggs for my age and a lot of them are crappy. Mine also presents with luteal phase defect because my corpus luteum is insufficient. I will probably go through menopause earlier than average, too. Boo.
@shortstack930 I'm so glad you managed to make something of the day with some comforting activities. I am cheering you and @beachbunnyxo123 on for IVF!
@beachbunnyxo123 Any time! Ask anything you want. And I agree with @adirat ...letting go is hard (and something I am failing to achieve currently), so I get it.
There's so much to comment on here that I literally don't know where to start. For those who recently had a BFN, I'm so sorry for you. For those still waiting on results, FX for you. I'm not even sure if this is the right thread for me to be on, to be honest. So... Hi. I know we've only been actively trying for two months, but I've been lurking around here for a long time and have been following this thread for the last couple of days. I'm very active on BOTB and recently intro'd here on TTGP. My DH and I are both 33 and live in central Florida.
Diagnosis (If you've been): Low AMH confirmed (0.31) and a 5cm cyst on my left ovary
Cycle/CD: 2/2, CD19
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Not entirely sure, since I don't know if I O'd.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) We literally just got confirmation two days ago that my test results mean I most likely can't get pregnant on my own. So we're having the initial consultation with an RE on Tuesday morning. We don't know what we'll even be able to do. The doctor on Tuesday said that we most likely aren't candidates for IUI or IVF, but we want to talk to the RE anyway.
How are things going? They're... interesting. I don't quite know what all we're going to do yet. My DH is upset, as am I, but I'm slightly more angry than he is about the situation. I had my blood panel done back in July to be re-evaluated for PCOS (which I apparently don't have), and the nurse who called me with the results said that they wanted us to try for six months to a year before referring us to an RE. Then at the appointment this week, the doctor confirmed that we should have been referred back in late July because my number is so low for my age. I also found out that I have a 5cm cyst on my left ovary, which was there on an ultrasound they did for the PCOS evaluation back in August, but they didn't tell me. So when I recently had a CT for unexplained chronic groin pain, the radiologist saw it and wanted me to get checked out, which is why I was there with the OBGYN this week.
Any questions? I don't even know what to ask at the appointment. I found a thread on here from a few months ago titled something like "What to ask at your first RE appointment", but it only had a couple of responses. Does anyone have any suggestions?
GTKY: What's on your Christmas list? I honestly don't know. Maybe a new couch. Ours is starting to die.
Re: IF Testing and Treatment 11/27
@SkilledSailor I’m mostly enjoy it but there is still the back part of my brain that’s stressing about if I O’d already. I’m glad your new RE has what sounds like a good plan in place
@darkstar42 I’m so glad you switched drs. This new one sounds on top of it!
@kiwi2628 donthey hope those 2 new meds will give you more follies?
@ndz2018 having patience is so hard
@BusinessWife I’m so so sorry. Take all the time you need. We’re here for you.
@businesswife *hugs* I'm so sorry this cycle wasn't it! You're an amazingly strong woman and I aspire to have the grace that you do if our situations were reversed. All the hugs and love!
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LO arrived 11/9/2018! We have a baby!
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Me: 33 | DH: 41
Married: March 2016
TTC #1/IUD out January 2017
PCOS dx January 2018
Medicated cycle 2.5mg Letrozole CD3-7 February 2018
BFP 3/10/2018!
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MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023.
Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months. Hopefully FET after that.
#BitterHagPartyOf1
@kiwi2628 I know I just said this in the other thread but imma say it again. I understand it being disappointing but it is still early. Sending all the good vibes to your follies for them to catch up.
@dpjennifer Oh a mosaic stepping stone sounds pretty! I'm definitely not an expert in anything tile related other than googling tutorials.
@avrilmai I go back and forth between really liking our plan and feeling like we'll be wasting six months.
@purplg8r Haha I hear ya. I told myself we would take the next couple of months as a semi break from doing all the things but I can't stop temping. I just gotta know now.
@Redpuma119 I was on letrozole last month for an IUI cycle and will be starting it again tomorrow. I had a baseline u/s and a monitoring u/s at cd 11.
AFM, I have a question for you ladies. Last month I went in for my monitoring u/s at cd 11. I had one follie at 17mm and another at 18mm, one on each side, and the nurse told us to trigger that night. Should I go in on cd 11 again for this cycle, or do you think cd 12 would be ok? I'm wondering if it would be better to give the follies another day to get a little bit bigger, but I don't want to O early. Thoughts?
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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AFM: BFN this morning as expected. WFAF and then onward to IVF.
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
So many huge & so much love.
Married May 2014
TTC # 2 Since December 2021
Baby girl W born 2/2021
Our journey so far...
(tw loss & infertility)
Working with an RE since March 2016
2 failed TI cycles
3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017
23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal
Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17
BFP 4.21.17
MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey:
12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted!
5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house!
1.1.20 Homestudy process started
3.14.20 First social worker visit
5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test!
Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
@darkstar42 go in on cd 11, you don’t want to miss O by waiting. They can always have you come again to check if you’re not ready. Also they should be doing BW as well as US so it doesn’t always just go by follie size. Your nurse may have had you trigger if you were already starting to surge.
AFM so I got the appointment for the Saline sono with another doctor at another office. This RE did get a catheter in for my IUI and wants me to have a full bladder that day since my uterus is tilted so that my bladder will push down the uterus to straighten the cervix a bit. I feel like ever since I asked my nurse has been super short and curt with me rushing me off the phone but whatever. It’s frustrating because I’m trying to get a calendar for meds and stimming so I know when to take time off since I have to ask work a month in advance. She keeps saying things like “well yes since that was what you chose” since I want to come off BCPs after next Thursday and start stimming after giving my body a cycle to regulate in January but she’s acting like I’m being non complaint and hasn’t been answering my emails. Any ladies who have started stimming how often and what times were you doing injections throughout the day? I’m trying to avoid doing injections at work at all costs because there are no private bathrooms only stalls in a common restroom with patients I treat and there’s no fridge to keep me them cold. Did anyone start meds like estrace the cycle before?
@shortstack930 Sorry for the BFN girl. Here's hoping AF comes soon so you can move on.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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@beachbunnyxo123 I think it depends on your protocol and also doctors office. A lot of people I have talked to give themselves separate injections (one injection of menopur in the AM, one follistim injection in the PM, ganirelix in PM etc...), but my doctor has me mix them all together so I am getting 2-3 meds but only one 1 injection, which is nice. I was told I need to do it at night, but I could pick a time any time between 5 and 10 PM, and then I just have to be consistent, so I do my injection at 9 every night. And yes, I started estradiol (estrase) 8 DPO the cycle prior to starting stims. I did it for a total of 10 days, so I was actually on estrogen for CD 1-4 of my stim cycle, and I started stims on CD3.
@beachbunnyxo123 I don't have any advice on the injections, but I'm glad you were able to get the appt with a different RE. i hope it relieves some of the anxiety.
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
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@beachbunnyxo123 I had an idea of my meds and had them ordered a little bit ahead, (except for one I couldn't order till last minute), but I had a schedule similar to what @kiwi2628 described. I did my injections around 7PM each night. NBD. I would try not to overthink it. If it comes to it and they want you to do multiple injection times in a day, it's for a very important reason, and you will cross that bridge when you get there. Maybe work has a pump room or other type of "closet" space you could at least have a little privacy, or worst case, slip out to your car. Not everything has to be refridgerated, and if so, just use a little insulated thermal pouch! (I got mine from 31), or keep it in your lunch bag. It's honestly not that big a deal to have to do it quickly in a stall, either tho, imho. I understand wanting to book time off ahead, but it may not really be possible. You dont know how your body will respond, even if you did have an exact start date for stimms, ER could be within a range of days there, so... it just comes with the territory. If there's one thing I've learned from this journey so far, it's lwtting go od my plans. The farther out I try to plan, I can pretty much guarantee I'll have to scrap it, so no sense in getting more than a step or two ahead of ourselves... (((big hugs)))
I did estrogen priming the cycle before IVF stims because of POI. It's very common. That, fortunately, is just pills or patches so no injections!
Married May 2014
TTC # 2 Since December 2021
Baby girl W born 2/2021
Our journey so far...
(tw loss & infertility)
Working with an RE since March 2016
2 failed TI cycles
3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017
23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal
Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17
BFP 4.21.17
MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey:
12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted!
5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house!
1.1.20 Homestudy process started
3.14.20 First social worker visit
5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test!
Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
<div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/tamalahoops">tamalahoops</a> said:</div>
<div class="QuoteText">@beachbunnyxo123 I'm sorry that your RE office is being so rotten to you. Similar to what others have said, I almost always did my injections outside of work. One in the morning and one at night around 8 am and pm. I think there was only one time I had to do it at work because I needed to go in early and it was no big deal. I had everything ready to go so I just had to stick myself real quick. TBH <b>if</b> <b>you</b> <b>can</b> <b>change</b> <b>your</b> <b>tampon</b> <b>in</b> <b>your</b> <b>work</b> <b>bathroom</b>, <b>you</b> <b>can</b> <b>do</b> <b>an</b> <b>injection</b> <b>in</b> <b>there</b>. </div>
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Lol Well put! ^^^THIS!!! ;)
@shortstack930 *hugs* Sorry IVF became a reality.
@beachbunnyxo123 Ugh sorry that nurse is being rude. Your body, your choice of doctor. Hope she gets over it and is more responsive ASAP.
@shortstack930 so sorry for the BFN. At least IVF is a different course of action and hopefully with positive results!!
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@darkstar42 Thanks for your response! As far as the trigger, is there a specific number they want the follie to be at first?
@shortstack930 Thanks for the insight. I am wondering why I haven’t been monitored. And as for the BFN, so sorry girl. Even when we are expecting it, it doesn’t lessen the sting of it. Thinking of you.
@sailing_mama Yeah, I am taking it starting day 3. I know that the chances of multiples are less with this drug.. but I would stop if I had 4 for sure! But like you said, almost non-existent. I feel a bit relieved that my dr isn’t the only one who doesn’t monitor. But like @tamalahoops mentioned, what if I have negative effects? @beachbunnyxo123 you’re right, how will I know if it is working.
@beachbunnyxo123 I want to slap your nurse.
Thanks for all the help ladies. I think I will ask to be monitored the next cycle.
Started stim for IVF on 11/17 but then my nana suddenly passed away 11/20. The entire family from out of state (11 people) then ended up staying at my house all through until yesterday when all the services finished. So I also ended up surprise hosting Thanksgiving.
IVF injections just became all business quick in my room with all the house guests it was hard to find a minute alone.
I had a "vigorous" reaction to the injections and only stimmed for 7 days, got to mildly OHSS, and they quickly did the egg retrieval on Tuesday. I am still feeling like absolute crap with cramping, bloating, nausea, and abdomen and flank pain.
Positive note they got 23 eggs, 21 mature, and as of right now we have 14 embryos. I got to see my 4 siblings all at the same time in 3 years, and they have all been so supportive of the IVF process. Kept the house clean, did home projects that were on the to do list, and were just generally amazing people despite the reason we all got together.
Bad news because of the OHSS we can not do a fresh transfer and will do a frozen transfer in a month or so when my ovaries start behaving.
Anyone else have OHSS? When did you start feeling better? Its been 3 days and I'm still having so much pain. I have work tomorrow. I missed so much time for bereavement and the egg retrieval, I can't afford to miss anymore.
@beachbunnyxo123 I’m glad you were able to switch doctors but I’m sorry the nurse is being such a jerk. I’m glad at least we’ll be going through IVF together!
Thank you all for the support. I went out and did some shopping today and got some greasy fast food for lunch to cheer myself up. Just waiting for AF to get this show on the road.
Married 07/2012
DD born 07/2014
DD2 born 10/2018
DS born 10/2022
IF history:
TTC #2 since January 2016
June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22
@BusinessWife - I'm so sorry! I hope this next cycle is yours!
@beachbunnyxo123 - I didn't do estrace. Gonal-f you can keep out of the fridge for 28 days (or so) once you start using it. If you bring an insulated lunch bag with some ice packs you should be all set for the keeping meds cold that have to stay cold. Thats how they ship them after all. All my injections were at night. My husband gave them to me. I had him watch a youtube video before and he was a pro after the first day. As far a schedule like @BusinessWife said, its near impossible to plan ahead for when things will happen. Without fail for my IUI's it happened on a day I was working. Then my egg retrieval was 3-4 days before I thought it would be.
Random side note: I found this on edx, and thought it might be interesting to a lot of us, so wanted to share: https://www.edx.org/course/bioethics-law-medicine-ethics-harvardx-hls4x-3
@shortstack930 I’m so sorry about the bfn. Hugs
@beachbunnyxo123 grr. That would so annoy me about the nurse
@BusinessWife you so hit the nail on the head, I’m such a control freak with planning and this whole process has really tested me. I know I need to let it go and just let it happen and unfold but I feel so out of control that I try to pull it back somehow. IF totally sucks!
Thanks to everyone else for your support and kind words I really appreciate it!!
@darkstar42 I would go in on CD 11. The follies seem like they were a good size when you triggered last time and they continue to grow after trigger. Plus they might grow faster and you don't want to miss it!
@shortstack930 sorry for the BFN. I'm glad you treated yourself to shopping.
@beachbunnyxo123 sorry you're clinic is being crappy.
@adirat what is POI?
@madspunk POI = premature ovarian insufficiency. A close cousin of DOR, but for fragile x premutation they call it POI. Basically I have a reduced number of eggs for my age and a lot of them are crappy. Mine also presents with luteal phase defect because my corpus luteum is insufficient. I will probably go through menopause earlier than average, too. Boo.
@shortstack930 I'm so glad you managed to make something of the day with some comforting activities. I am cheering you and @beachbunnyxo123 on for IVF!
Diagnosis (If you've been): Low AMH confirmed (0.31) and a 5cm cyst on my left ovary
Cycle/CD: 2/2, CD19
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Not entirely sure, since I don't know if I O'd.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) We literally just got confirmation two days ago that my test results mean I most likely can't get pregnant on my own. So we're having the initial consultation with an RE on Tuesday morning. We don't know what we'll even be able to do. The doctor on Tuesday said that we most likely aren't candidates for IUI or IVF, but we want to talk to the RE anyway.
How are things going? They're... interesting. I don't quite know what all we're going to do yet. My DH is upset, as am I, but I'm slightly more angry than he is about the situation. I had my blood panel done back in July to be re-evaluated for PCOS (which I apparently don't have), and the nurse who called me with the results said that they wanted us to try for six months to a year before referring us to an RE. Then at the appointment this week, the doctor confirmed that we should have been referred back in late July because my number is so low for my age. I also found out that I have a 5cm cyst on my left ovary, which was there on an ultrasound they did for the PCOS evaluation back in August, but they didn't tell me. So when I recently had a CT for unexplained chronic groin pain, the radiologist saw it and wanted me to get checked out, which is why I was there with the OBGYN this week.
Any questions? I don't even know what to ask at the appointment. I found a thread on here from a few months ago titled something like "What to ask at your first RE appointment", but it only had a couple of responses. Does anyone have any suggestions?
GTKY: What's on your Christmas list? I honestly don't know. Maybe a new couch. Ours is starting to die.
Diminished ovarian reserve
BFP: 4/14/2020 EDD: 12/20/2020