@steph8986 so glad you are getting answers. It’s so weird how we have to get the eggs out of our bodies for anyone to figure out what is really going on. I would ask if they had any other cases of all embies arresting the same day as you. i would Want to get info on the lab and its practices.
@dragonette505 it’s pretty unbelievable that they matured an egg! Wow maybe you will end up with 10. 9 is such a great number.
AFM i am a wimp. My abdomen is hurting and it’s definitely not my ovaries. I am sitting on a totally normal cycle with ovaries that have 8 measureable follicles and they are 8-4. The doctor said it’s going to be a looooong week if I am already feeling my ovaries. I’ve never felt them until the end. It must be the shots. . It hurts when I sit for a long time.
@dragonette505 it just blows my mind what they can do! I should have been an embryologist I find it fascinating. lol love your memes and hope you feel better.
AFM I’m still stiming. My largest was measuring at 16 this morning and my RE now has switched me to daily monitoring so I feel like I’m the home stretch. I did a little reorder of meds just in case. Just found out my partner can not be with me if the ER is on monday. Needless to say that progressed into and argument and tears. Maybe this hormones are wrecking havoc on me but seriously I don’t want to be the lady at the fertility clinic calling an uber. I’m just going to hope monday isn’t my day.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2MomsHoping wow that would really suck if your partner can’t make it... it’s just such a stressful day and it’s good to have someone there with you... can any family or friend show up and support? So hoping it ends up being a different day
@mac627 wow! Congrats on 14! Fx for fert report today!
@2momshoping oh fx it ends up on a day your partner can make it.
@dragonette505 9 is awesome! Tomorrow's your day 5 report?
@loverin great to see you pop in and say hi! Hope everything is continuing to go well for you!
@laurad75 The tougher shots are hard, but I think that's great advice with saving the right side for when you need to do them yourself. I'm sure after everything else you will find a way.
@kiwi2628 so pleased you had such a great vacation in Morocco!
@steph8986 I would echo what dragonette505 said. Severe endo is certainly shown in studies to have links to worse egg quality. I think the karotyping is worth to do to check. It helps narrow things down - either some gene issue or mitochondria ruled in or out. If it's a mitochondrial issue you might want to listen to look into the Canadian mitochondrial trial treatments. Are you already doing max doses of Ubiquinol? Not sure what your REs thoughts on DHEA are - though be warned for some people it yields even worse results, whereas others better - and there is not large enough trial data so far to prove its effect. Lab practices and the repeat ( and more thorough) SA are certainly worth to talk about. Whatever you decide to talk about, good luck. And maybe consider at least a phone consult with one of the really specialist clinics for egg quality and poor response.
AFM back home on the couch after ER. But we only got one mature egg :-(. The big follie had collapsed and the other one had an immature egg. So one mature egg. Now have to wait for the call tomorrow to know if it fertilized or not. Feeling a bit bummed. But even if we can only get one egg at a time we want to keep going. Maybe it takes ten or more retrievals to find a good enough egg. We have one more round with insurance where I'm keen to experiment with a new protocol, if not discuss mini or natural IVF. Lets see!
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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Thank you @emmasemm - you're right, I will find a way. I'm sorry you just got the one egg (been there, no fun) but your attitude is great. If you keep that up you will definitely be able to see this through.
@2MomsHoping Yikes, that is stressful. My clinic would not let me leave in a taxi or uber so if your partner can't be there you will likely need to find someone else - check with your clinic. FX its not Monday and this won't be a problem.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@laurad75 thanks. One is so tough as it either fertilizes or doesn't. No hedging your bets. Tomorrow could be really rough. I think it hit DH a bit today already. He's mr optimistic that every time will work. I'm already planning which months next year I can cycle whilst working around public holidays when our clinic doesn't operate...
@2momshoping I agree with @laurad75 that most clinics will only release you into someone's care for the day. There is actually a service where you can order someone for that. I don't remember what it was exactly but if you search the September IVF thread we discussed it as a backup plan.
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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Alright, let's see if I can get some updates in before my meeting this morning
@2momshoping I hope your wife can make it to the ER. I have worries about this myself - DH can't always get out of work easily so if I'm faced with this scenario, I don't know what I'll do. None of our family knows about our treatments. FX that it all works out for you!
@mac627 Congrats on getting 14 eggs! Fx for a great fert report!
@dragonette505 Wow! That's so awesome that they got a 9th egg to fertilize!!! Congrats!!!
@kiwi2628 Yay for starting! Looks like we're still on a similar schedule. Will be nice to have someone to go through the process with Glad you enjoyed your vacation - my cousin went to Morocco a few years ago and loved it.
@steph8986 I am so sorry about all of your embryos arresting. That is completely devastating. I hope you have a productive WTF appointment and can move ahead with a plan you're comfortable with. I'm such a newbie to this process but the other ladies have given some great advice. I think I'd also get a second opinion.
ETA: @emmasemm I'm so sorry about only getting one mature egg - I know you had higher hopes for this cycle. FX for a good fert report.
Oct 16: Spontaneous BFP | m/c @ 9w1d (massive SCH) | D&C Apr 17: IUI #1 = BFN May 17: IUI #2 = BFN Jun 17: IUI #3 = Late BFP (18 DPO) | NMC 17Jul17 @ ~6w Aug 17: IUI #4 = Cancelled due to premature ovulation | TI = BFN Sep 17: IUI #5 = Cancelled due to overstimulation (10+ follies) Nov 17: IVF #1 = Cancelled due to non-IF related health issue | TI = BFN Dec 17: IVF #1 = Puregon 200, Menopur 75, Orgalutran, Suprefact trigger due to OHSS risk | 22R, 18M, 16F, 10B frozen Feb 18: FET #1 (medicated) = BFN Mar 18: FET #2 (natural cycle) = CP (beta 1: 54; beta 2: 0)
Apr 18: FET #3 (natural cycle) = cancelled due to missed ovulation
Apr 18: FET #3 (natural cycle) = BFP! Beta 1: 201 Beta 2: 585 Beta 3: 3254 Beta 4: 9715
U/S 19May - one bean measuring on track with a HB of 125! EDD: 07Jan2019 Team Green My Rainbow Baby Boy born 03Jan2019
@emmasemm UGH! Was so hoping some of the others would show up during retrieval. Have you tried Microdose Lupron yet? I always got a higher yield with it than antagonist (including estrogen priming). I'm with you.... I'm trying to do as many cycles as makes sense and then we will see. At least we know we will have tried our all. And there was an article I read about more cycles amounting to more success...even people with low chances of success... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49GGpS9TSRw keeping my fingers crossed this egg becomes a strong embie!!
@emmasemm so sorry you only got one mature egg this time again, but hopefully it will be your lucky and strong one! I know sometimes it is easier to start planning ahead for next cycle, I am notorious for this, but fingers crossed this egg fertilizes and continues to go. What is your plan for a transfer now? Would it be a Day 2 or 3 or still a Day 4? Also, changing up protocol might be a good idea, especially while covered by insurance.
@dragonette505 so interesting and exciting that they were able to get another egg to fertilize. I read somewhere that while they only tell us the number of mature eggs, the others are mostly immature, but there may be a few that can be put in another category in between. So while they initially told you there were 8 mature eggs, maybe they just didn't want you to get your hopes up about another 1 or 2 they were going to try and fertilize. My new RE actually told me that at this clinic, if there are some "iffy" eggs that they expect may fertilize, but aren't they will actually use rescue-ICSI on Day 2 even after regular IVF fertilization has already been tried. Interesting right?
@steph8986 glad you get to have your WTF so quickly, as it will be good to ask some tough questions and hopefully do some more testing and your RE some more research before the next cycle. The suggestions the others ladies have made are definitely great, maybe DNA testing on sperm and I would definitely research and ask about specific vitamins or medications that may improve egg quality as others said. I forget your diagnosis, is it unexplained? Also maybe some additional hormone tests (not just TSH but maybe T3 and T4 to firmly rule out hypothyroidism, androgen testing to be sure your eggs aren't being exposed to too much testosterone or DHEAS which is common in PCOS type disorders etc).
@mac627 awesome, 14 eggs! excited to hear updates from you the next few days.
@2MomsHoping Looks like we are still on pretty similar schedule, I have my next US and bloodwork tomorrow (RE wanted it to be Sunday, but I pushed to Saturday as my levels were already high yesterday, I haven't had an ultrasound since Wednesday and I usually progress really quickly after the first 3 days). I was also having similar thoughts and concerns about my DH not being able to make it to ER, if it is Wednesday or Friday next week he really can't take the day off work. My parents will be in town and know we are doing IVF and have offered to take me, but then I thought what about his sperm sample? We don't have any frozen samples at this clinic as we did the last, wish we did. Hopefully your ER won't be Monday, I am keeping fingers crossed for both of us that we can be pushed to Tuesday as this would be the best for me also!
@sunnyinatx I hear you on feeling like a wimp! I started feeling pressure and twinges after my very first night of injections this cycle. Typically I don't feel this uncomfortable until after ER so it's really a change. The US tech did state that my ovaries were huge after only 4 nights of meds, and with the follicles growing, it of course is getting worse every day. The last couple days I have even been urinating more frequently and having pressure and discomfort when starting to urinate. At first I was worried about a possible UTI, but honestly I just think it's from my ovaries. Good luck with your continued stims, for me it has been one long week, 6 nights of meds so far and I am already exhausted and ready to get to retrieval!
AFM, I was shocked that my RE only wanted bloodwork yesterday as my previous RE had me come in every day after 4-5 nights of stims for ultrasounds and bloodwork as my ovaries are very unpredictable (as are most people's I think), but sometimes in one day my follicles would grow 3-4mm. Well, my E2 doubled and is already 1250 after only 5 nights of meds, LH was up to 4.5 (which made me nervous because it was 1 day before) and unfortunately my progesterone is already at a 2.5 so unless for some magical reason it decreases we will definitely be doing a freeze all. I anxiously awaited call from my RN and was so shocked when she kept my doses on Menopur and Gonal the same, but I did start Cetrotide last night also. She said that a 4.5 for LH is not a surge, just a normal increase at this point so he was not concerned about me ovulating early.
Now, the biggest shocker? He did not want me to go back for my next monitoring for another 3 days! Like I said, in my previous 2 IVF cycles I would have to go in daily, so to only have one ultrasound in the first 8 days of stims is unheard of for me. Especially since last cycle I only stimmed 8 days total and this cycle, it appears I am progressing even quicker. Needless to say, I expressed my concerns to the RN and told her this makes me VERY nervous, also on Sunday I would have to go to the clinic over an hour away. She agreed that it would be better for me to go in for monitoring on Saturday instead, so after cleaning with the RE I will have my next ultrasound and bloodwork tomorrow. Big sign of relief, hopefully things will still be progressing nicely so I can trigger possibly Sunday, although that would only be 8 days of stims, not sure how far I will be pushed. But we are getting closer and closer to a possible Thanksgiving retrieval...and hosting 9 people the same day, may be very interesting and there is no way I can cancel at this point.
This is such an active and exciting group this month since we are all spaced out with our cycles, it is nice to have so many updates each day on everyone!
@bethann1022 just goes to show how much we have to self advocate.... I'm surprised too that they didn't do an US, but good job on getting them to monitor you tomorrow.... Hopefully you are progressing fast like you seem to be, but seems like it would still be ok to trigger Monday for Wednesday retrieval... of course I guess you wouldn't get to prep and do the pre cooking you need to do on Wednesday (I cook probably more on Wednesday than I do on Thursday!). I'm very happy about the extra egg (especially since as of yesterday, it wasn't even lagging behind the earlier ones). We are automatic icsi anyway.. I'm guessing they saw that maybe it could possibly mature later? I know theres a process where in some people they take eggs early and mature them in vitro, but I already was told by a doc I'm not a candidate for that (I was telling my last doc that I wished they could just remove immature follies and mature them in a dish so I didn't have to have all these meds in my body... lol he looked at me like I was crazy and said: its called IVM and it already exists!) lol
@bethann1022 if it fertilizes we still have the plan for Tuesday. But that feels like light years away right now.
@dragonette505 I'd talked with the RE and we'd likened my chances to something like the school probability question. If you have 100 balls in a bag and 5 are green and the other 95 are red, what is the probability to draw a green ball each time? It's possible to get a green one in the first few goes, but by the tenth draw you have a slightly better chance of pulling a green one somewhere between 1 and 10 than just in 1. (Firstly more "plays" and secondly less red ones remaining) Of course if you can pull more than one ball out of the bag with eCh "play" then it might take you less plays. In summary the link and you are right - the more times I cycle the more chance I have for it to succeed! What number ER have you just done?
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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@emmasemm lol! right!! When people call themselves IVF Warriors, I think this is what they mean! Right now I have 5 embies on ice and I hope I can get some this time... I hate that I discarded 6 as "abnormal" and who even knows if they were
@2MomsHoping oh that's so stressful! I really hope you don't have to do ER on a day your partner can't be there! FX it works out for you!
@emmasemm what a bummer that you only got 1. I know you were hoping for more. But it only takes one right? And your doctor's analogy makes total sense. Eventually the odds are that you'll get a good one! Hopefully sooner rather than later. You have such a positive attitude - keep thinking that way! FX that the one you have gets fertilized!
@bethann1022 wow that's definitely surprising they wouldn't want to monitor you more closely considering. Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow and you can trigger soon. It sounds so intense to have the ER and host Thanksgiving on the same day! Hope the timing works out the way you want it!
@dragonette505 wow! you really are an IVF warrior! So I guess you were doing testing in the past and now you're not anymore? I'm not doing testing, and I'm not sure how I feel about it - seems so iffy after everything I've read. I'm guessing that's where you're at too.
AFM got the fert report today and we have 7 fertilized. I'm really happy with that! Hoping they continue to grow and I have one or two for the fresh transfer. It'll either be Sunday or Tuesday for me. Sunday my DH is away and Tuesday is a terribly inconvenient day to have to take off work... so I'm not sure what I'm hoping for at this point ha. DH did the PIO shot this morning with no problem, but I'm really sore now after the fact. Not sure how I'm going to manage Sunday when DH is away... I guess I'll make it work! At least it's the weekend and I can just lie around with a heating pad on my butt.
@mac627 Yay for getting 7 that fertilized! That is great. My DH couldn't get off work when I had my transfer so my mom came with me. We are super close and she knows all about the treatments, so that helped. I knew I could have probably gone alone, but it was reassuring having a second set of ears for everything. When the embryologist came and talked to us I was able to call DH and put him on speaker phone.
@mac627 yeah... with all of the new info that's come out in the past couple years, I think testing only makes sense if you create tons of embies... if you have 20 on ice you can afford (not that anyone wants to) to have some be discarded. If you have just a few (and testing being imperfect as it is) you cant really afford to lose some to mistakes. The ones I tested were not even next gen tests so if like it wouldn't be able to see mosaicism or anything. I really hate I didn't give those embies a chance. Also...YAY on 7 fertilized!!!! Lucky number 7!! Hard to say what day will be better, but hoping whichever day your embies snuggle in and get comfy
@dragonette505 that totally makes sense!! I’m with you. I don’t plan to test unless I really have to for some reason. I also wanted to do a fresh transfer if possible so testing wasn’t really an option. Hope my 7 are good ones!
@emmasemm I’m glad you were able to get one egg I hope it fertilizes and keeps growing for you. I love your determination!
@bethann1022 wow you are moving along quickly. If you get scheduled can he go in and do a sample the day before if its a day he can’t go. I’m glad you pushed for Saturday. That seems like WAY to long to wait considering how quickly your moving along. I hope both of us get to go on Tuesday
@dragonette505 we did PGS but my clinic does not discard them they get to stay on ice with my normals. They will transfer the normals first but if you don’t have any normals they will allow you to transfer the others.
I’ve had a bit of a rough day. All my labs are good and my follicles are growing. They told me the number for follicles which I didn’t want to know so now I have expectations they also told me to come in again tomorrow and I’ll likely trigger tomorrow night so the dreaded Monday retrieval seems like a real thing. I have come to the conclusion that I’m just super hormonal because my brain is a little spiraling out of control and jumping all over the place with hurt and blame that it really over the top for the situation. My clinic will allow me to take a cab home as long as they arrange it for me and put me in there. We were out about fertility treatments in the beginning but have gone into hiding about it because it just became too hard to deal with. This process just really always seems to find a new way to throw challenges doesn’t it?
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2MomsHoping ugh, sorry you got the number you didn’t want to yet know.... hopefully it’s not going to be a different number! Sometimes I get more than they predicted! These cycles are terribly stressful and make you feel out of control of your life. And yes there are always challenges. Sometimes it seems like every day there’s challenges. Besides my husband, only my oldest sister and my mom (who lives with me) know.... and I’m glad I’ve kept it that way.... ppl would be telling me to give up by now.... I don’t need that negativity or pressure
@2MomsHoping. My Dh travels for work. We will be needing to hire a car service for me. Sucks. i will be in the same boat for sure. Let me know how it goes.
So interesting day. My grandfather passed away and it is ok. He has been “tired of the god waiting room as he calls it.” So i told my family i was unable to make the funeral due to being in an IVF cycle. I got no response.... Nuthin...
@sunnyinatx I’m sorry about your grandfather but I understand that sometimes people are ready to go. I hope your family is understanding about not being able to make the funeral. I think a lot of people don’t really get how much an IVF cycle takes over your life and what an emotional and financial investment it is. good luck.
@dragonette505 thank you for the kind words. The follicle counts were actually pretty good (for me). I think it was just one of those things where I was feeling a little overwhelmed.
I’m feeling much better now. DW went to a concert and I had a quiet night at home. I crocheted, watched some dessert cooking show on netflix and ate a pretzel for dinner. Equilibrium restored!
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@sunnyinatx I am so sorry to hear about your grandpa. People really don't realize how much of a toll this process takes on you unless they have been through it themselves. And how precise it has to be. Things can't just get pushed because you have something you need to do. It is very frustrating at times.
@2MomsHoping I figured it was a good count, it sounded like you were worried about being optimistic and then getting a lower count retrieved (like I did this cycle ) glad you got a quiet night at home.... all these hormones will mess with you!
@2MomsHoping oh that really stinks that you’ll probably trigger tonight! On the one hand it’s nice you won’t have to stim anymore and can get this show on the road, but knowing you’re going to have to be on your own for the ER really sucks. I hope everything goes ok! Sorry they told you the number! I didn’t really want to get a number in my head before the retrieval so I get you. They got more than I was anticipating but of course those aren’t all mature so who knows! Hope you end up getting a number you’re happy with regardless of what they told you.
@sunnyinatx so sorry to hear about your grandfather. It must be so hard to suffer a loss and then not be able to be there for the funeral because of this. I hope your family is understanding. I really don’t think people get it. I definitely didn’t until I started this whole process. You have to be available constantly- it’s like an incredibly inflexible full time job! I hope you get a better response from them soon.
@sunnyinatx, I'm so sorry to hear about your grandfather, and the lack of understanding on the part of your family. That just makes two tough situations even tougher to deal with.
@2MomsHoping, I'm so sorry you have to go to the ER yourself. It's nerve wracking enough to have someone there, let alone have to fly solo. We're here for, and I hope everything goes smoothly.
@bethann1022, I'm glad you were able to push for monitoring today, having your prior experience in the back of your head, it's got to provide a lot more comfort to get in sooner.
@2momshoping glad to hear the quiet night in helped
@mac627 7 is a great number! Fx for updates and transfer day!
@dragonette505 I think I might be seeing your 7 and raising you ;-)
Thanks to everyone for your wishes.
So our one egg didn't fertilize. That means we're officially benched for the rest of the month as there's no TWW if you know your egg is already in the medical waste bin :-( DH is really affected this time, which hurts me even more. RE will call on Monday. Then to make a plan for what and when for cycle 3.
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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Aww sorry @emmasemm. I was really hoping that one would fertilize! Do you have any idea when the next cycle would be? Do you think you could fit in one in December? Or will you wait till the new year?
@emmasemm I’m totally gutted for you and your dh... tears in my eyes. I know you have a plan to move forward, but I’m so mad you didn’t at least get a transfer.... are you considering doing a consult with another clinic (just to see if anyone has any different ideas?) Also, like @mac627 hoping you can squeeze in another cycle this year
Oh @emmasemm I’m so sorry. I hope you and DH can have some time to grieve together. Reading that your one egg didn’t make it just knocked the wind out of me. I hope you RE can give you some answers and maybe they can switch up your protocol for your next round.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
I am so so sorry @emmasemm. It broke my heart reading your update. Hopefully you and your RE can find something that works better for you. Or like @dragonette505 said, maybe a consult with another clinic if there are multiple near you.
Welp I got the call. Trigger tonight is at 9:30pm and retrieval on Monday morning. My Freshozen (FET) will be Saturday 11/25 and Beta is scheduled for Sunday 12/3. EEEK!
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2MomsHoping yay!!! So glad you are finally on your way to transfer! Right after thanksgiving too!!! AFM Ladies.... my attempt at an MRI today was a disaster. I’m basically just calming down after 30 minutes of sobbing. I’m too claustrophobic to deal. I didn’t let him do the contrast part (which ultimately I’m glad about because I didn’t really want that shit in me) so I didn’t even do the “most important part”. The tech was a lying douchebag who kept telling me he wouldn’t put me in further,then kept sliding me in further... it was a total nightmare imgoing to have several drinks right now.
@emmasemm I am so sorry your egg didn't make it, my heart also broke when I read your update, IF is so hard, it just isn't fair. I know you have a plan moving forward, but I hope you allow yourself to grieve this cycle, the heartbreak and any other emotions you may feel are all warranted. Also, enjoy some wine this weekend and some comforting time with your husband, and we will all be here to support you in your upcoming cycle.
@dragonette505 MRI's are really tough, especially for those who are claustrophobic, some people don't even realize until they get into that machine that they actually are. Do you guys have Shields MRI where you live? In MA, we have them pretty much everywhere and I guess they are considered open MRIs (I believe only open on the sides perhaps) so many people who can't do regular MRIs can tolerate them. You also may be able to take some medication (i.e Valium or Ativan) prior to MRI to relax you and even allow you to sleep through test. Can they just do a CT scan with contrast or is that not detailed enough? When do you get your final embryo outcome results?
@2momshoping Happy you get to trigger tonight and move onto the next stage and a Saturday fresh-ozen transfer right after Thanksgiving, you and I continue to be on the same schedule, it is nice having a cycle buddy and hopefully things go well for both of us on Monday! Sorry your DW can't be there on Monday, but hopefully the procedure will be quick and easy and you'll be home and resting before you know it.
AFM, I am so happy I was able to advocate for myself, because as I expected I am ready to trigger (and my RE wasn't even going to have me go for monitoring until tomorrow). My estrogen increased from 1200-2300, LH dropped and the best news is progesterone also dropped to 0.91 (from 2.5 two days ago, RE thinks the first reading was just an inconsistent reading). So the plan is currently to do a fresh transfer on Saturday the 25th, of course dependent on outcome of retrieval and hopefully, fingers crossed no OHSS and a low progesterone tomorrow. The ultrasound tech was really rushed today as they overbooked her of course since it's a Saturday, she didn't give me any information, but kept clicking away and definitely finished quicker than usual at this stage. I think she only measures what appear to be the 10 largest on each ovary when she is looking at ultrasound screen. While the other day I had 9 that were 10-12 and another 20+ that were 8-10, many broke off and unfortunately one took the lead and was 22 this morning. I had 9 others that are 16-19 and another 10 that are 12.8-16. Hopefully the increase in menopur, plus extra vitamins I have been taking helps improve the egg quality this cycle.
Tonight, I will be doing a dual trigger at 11:30, which I am slightly nervous about. I have never taken lupron before and I had strongly requested it at my last clinic, but they just did not believe it yielded favorable results and stuck with only HCG even if OHSS risk as I always was/am. I am doing 100u of lupron tonight along with 2500 of HCG and then tomorrow morning repeat bloodwork and another 100u of lupron after bloodwork is completed. I did my last gonal-F and menopur doses (to make it 8 days) today around 4pm. Anyway I am both excited and nervous to get this ER over with and hopefully get to a fresh transfer. Based on my ERA results from July, I need 6 days of PIO prior to transfer, and my last RE told me that this meant I would always have to do frozen transfers so I could be prepped with 6 days of PIO. But this RE (at a much larger, more experienced clinic), told me that an ERA is not needed for a fresh transfer, since the estrogen and progesterone is produced throughout the cycle. In fact, the calendar I was given doesn't even have PIO with a fresh transfer, it's Crinone once daily and 1 estrogen patch every 2 days I believe. A lot less than the Crinone twice daily and 3 estrogen patches every 48 hours I was doing with FETs before being increased to PIO 2ml daily instead of Crinone. I am trying not to get ahead of myself, and get too excited about fresh transfer as I need to keep reminding myself, it is all dependent on outcome of retrieval Monday!
Re: November IVF
@steph8986 so glad you are getting answers. It’s so weird how we have to get the eggs out of our bodies for anyone to figure out what is really going on. I would ask if they had any other cases of all embies arresting the same day as you. i would Want to get info on the lab and its practices.
@dragonette505 it’s pretty unbelievable that they matured an egg! Wow maybe you will end up with 10. 9 is such a great number.
AFM i am a wimp. My abdomen is hurting and it’s definitely not my ovaries. I am sitting on a totally normal cycle with ovaries that have 8 measureable follicles and they are 8-4. The doctor said it’s going to be a looooong week if I am already feeling my ovaries. I’ve never felt them until the end. It must be the shots.
@dragonette505 it just blows my mind what they can do! I should have been an embryologist I find it fascinating. lol love your memes and hope you feel better.
@mac627 yay for 14!!!
AFM I’m still stiming. My largest was measuring at 16 this morning and my RE now has switched me to daily monitoring so I feel like I’m the home stretch. I did a little reorder of meds just in case. Just found out my partner can not be with me if the ER is on monday. Needless to say that progressed into and argument and tears. Maybe this hormones are wrecking havoc on me but seriously I don’t want to be the lady at the fertility clinic calling an uber. I’m just going to hope monday isn’t my day.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2MomsHoping oh wow, I really hope monday is not your day
@2momshoping oh fx it ends up on a day your partner can make it.
@dragonette505 9 is awesome! Tomorrow's your day 5 report?
@loverin great to see you pop in and say hi! Hope everything is continuing to go well for you!
@laurad75 The tougher shots are hard, but I think that's great advice with saving the right side for when you need to do them yourself. I'm sure after everything else you will find a way.
@kiwi2628 @cmiller73 and @tosh24 good luck for getting @cmiller0623
@kiwi2628 so pleased you had such a great vacation in Morocco!
@steph8986 I would echo what dragonette505 said. Severe endo is certainly shown in studies to have links to worse egg quality. I think the karotyping is worth to do to check. It helps narrow things down - either some gene issue or mitochondria ruled in or out. If it's a mitochondrial issue you might want to listen to look into the Canadian mitochondrial trial treatments. Are you already doing max doses of Ubiquinol? Not sure what your REs thoughts on DHEA are - though be warned for some people it yields even worse results, whereas others better - and there is not large enough trial data so far to prove its effect. Lab practices and the repeat ( and more thorough) SA are certainly worth to talk about.
Whatever you decide to talk about, good luck. And maybe consider at least a phone consult with one of the really specialist clinics for egg quality and poor response.
AFM back home on the couch after ER. But we only got one mature egg :-(. The big follie had collapsed and the other one had an immature egg. So one mature egg. Now have to wait for the call tomorrow to know if it fertilized or not.
Feeling a bit bummed. But even if we can only get one egg at a time we want to keep going. Maybe it takes ten or more retrievals to find a good enough egg. We have one more round with insurance where I'm keen to experiment with a new protocol, if not discuss mini or natural IVF.
Lets see!
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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@2MomsHoping Yikes, that is stressful. My clinic would not let me leave in a taxi or uber so if your partner can't be there you will likely need to find someone else - check with your clinic. FX its not Monday and this won't be a problem.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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@2momshoping I agree with @laurad75 that most clinics will only release you into someone's care for the day. There is actually a service where you can order someone for that. I don't remember what it was exactly but if you search the September IVF thread we discussed it as a backup plan.
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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@2momshoping I hope your wife can make it to the ER. I have worries about this myself - DH can't always get out of work easily so if I'm faced with this scenario, I don't know what I'll do. None of our family knows about our treatments. FX that it all works out for you!
@mac627 Congrats on getting 14 eggs! Fx for a great fert report!
@dragonette505 Wow! That's so awesome that they got a 9th egg to fertilize!!! Congrats!!!
@laurad75 Good luck with the shots!
@kiwi2628 Yay for starting! Looks like we're still on a similar schedule. Will be nice to have someone to go through the process with
@steph8986 I am so sorry about all of your embryos arresting. That is completely devastating. I hope you have a productive WTF appointment and can move ahead with a plan you're comfortable with. I'm such a newbie to this process but the other ladies have given some great advice. I think I'd also get a second opinion.
ETA: @emmasemm I'm so sorry about only getting one mature egg - I know you had higher hopes for this cycle. FX for a good fert report.
*TW loss and children mentioned*
Apr 17: IUI #1 = BFN
May 17: IUI #2 = BFN
Jun 17: IUI #3 = Late BFP (18 DPO) | NMC 17Jul17 @ ~6w
Aug 17: IUI #4 = Cancelled due to premature ovulation | TI = BFN
Sep 17: IUI #5 = Cancelled due to overstimulation (10+ follies)
Nov 17: IVF #1 = Cancelled due to non-IF related health issue | TI = BFN
Dec 17: IVF #1 = Puregon 200, Menopur 75, Orgalutran, Suprefact trigger due to OHSS risk | 22R, 18M, 16F, 10B frozen
Feb 18: FET #1 (medicated) = BFN
Mar 18: FET #2 (natural cycle) = CP (beta 1: 54; beta 2: 0)
EDD: 07Jan2019 Team Green
My Rainbow Baby Boy born 03Jan2019
keeping my fingers crossed this egg becomes a strong embie!!
@dragonette505 so interesting and exciting that they were able to get another egg to fertilize. I read somewhere that while they only tell us the number of mature eggs, the others are mostly immature, but there may be a few that can be put in another category in between. So while they initially told you there were 8 mature eggs, maybe they just didn't want you to get your hopes up about another 1 or 2 they were going to try and fertilize. My new RE actually told me that at this clinic, if there are some "iffy" eggs that they expect may fertilize, but aren't they will actually use rescue-ICSI on Day 2 even after regular IVF fertilization has already been tried. Interesting right?
@steph8986 glad you get to have your WTF so quickly, as it will be good to ask some tough questions and hopefully do some more testing and your RE some more research before the next cycle. The suggestions the others ladies have made are definitely great, maybe DNA testing on sperm and I would definitely research and ask about specific vitamins or medications that may improve egg quality as others said. I forget your diagnosis, is it unexplained? Also maybe some additional hormone tests (not just TSH but maybe T3 and T4 to firmly rule out hypothyroidism, androgen testing to be sure your eggs aren't being exposed to too much testosterone or DHEAS which is common in PCOS type disorders etc).
@mac627 awesome, 14 eggs! excited to hear updates from you the next few days.
@2MomsHoping Looks like we are still on pretty similar schedule, I have my next US and bloodwork tomorrow (RE wanted it to be Sunday, but I pushed to Saturday as my levels were already high yesterday, I haven't had an ultrasound since Wednesday and I usually progress really quickly after the first 3 days). I was also having similar thoughts and concerns about my DH not being able to make it to ER, if it is Wednesday or Friday next week he really can't take the day off work. My parents will be in town and know we are doing IVF and have offered to take me, but then I thought what about his sperm sample? We don't have any frozen samples at this clinic as we did the last, wish we did. Hopefully your ER won't be Monday, I am keeping fingers crossed for both of us that we can be pushed to Tuesday as this would be the best for me also!
@sunnyinatx I hear you on feeling like a wimp! I started feeling pressure and twinges after my very first night of injections this cycle. Typically I don't feel this uncomfortable until after ER so it's really a change. The US tech did state that my ovaries were huge after only 4 nights of meds, and with the follicles growing, it of course is getting worse every day. The last couple days I have even been urinating more frequently and having pressure and discomfort when starting to urinate. At first I was worried about a possible UTI, but honestly I just think it's from my ovaries. Good luck with your continued stims, for me it has been one long week, 6 nights of meds so far and I am already exhausted and ready to get to retrieval!
AFM, I was shocked that my RE only wanted bloodwork yesterday as my previous RE had me come in every day after 4-5 nights of stims for ultrasounds and bloodwork as my ovaries are very unpredictable (as are most people's I think), but sometimes in one day my follicles would grow 3-4mm. Well, my E2 doubled and is already 1250 after only 5 nights of meds, LH was up to 4.5 (which made me nervous because it was 1 day before) and unfortunately my progesterone is already at a 2.5 so unless for some magical reason it decreases we will definitely be doing a freeze all. I anxiously awaited call from my RN and was so shocked when she kept my doses on Menopur and Gonal the same, but I did start Cetrotide last night also. She said that a 4.5 for LH is not a surge, just a normal increase at this point so he was not concerned about me ovulating early.
Now, the biggest shocker? He did not want me to go back for my next monitoring for another 3 days! Like I said, in my previous 2 IVF cycles I would have to go in daily, so to only have one ultrasound in the first 8 days of stims is unheard of for me. Especially since last cycle I only stimmed 8 days total and this cycle, it appears I am progressing even quicker. Needless to say, I expressed my concerns to the RN and told her this makes me VERY nervous, also on Sunday I would have to go to the clinic over an hour away. She agreed that it would be better for me to go in for monitoring on Saturday instead, so after cleaning with the RE I will have my next ultrasound and bloodwork tomorrow. Big sign of relief, hopefully things will still be progressing nicely so I can trigger possibly Sunday, although that would only be 8 days of stims, not sure how far I will be pushed. But we are getting closer and closer to a possible Thanksgiving retrieval...and hosting 9 people the same day, may be very interesting and there is no way I can cancel at this point.
This is such an active and exciting group this month since we are all spaced out with our cycles, it is nice to have so many updates each day on everyone!
@bethann1022 if it fertilizes we still have the plan for Tuesday. But that feels like light years away right now.
@dragonette505 I'd talked with the RE and we'd likened my chances to something like the school probability question. If you have 100 balls in a bag and 5 are green and the other 95 are red, what is the probability to draw a green ball each time? It's possible to get a green one in the first few goes, but by the tenth draw you have a slightly better chance of pulling a green one somewhere between 1 and 10 than just in 1. (Firstly more "plays" and secondly less red ones remaining) Of course if you can pull more than one ball out of the bag with eCh "play" then it might take you less plays.
In summary the link and you are right - the more times I cycle the more chance I have for it to succeed!
What number ER have you just done?
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@emmasemm what a bummer that you only got 1. I know you were hoping for more. But it only takes one right? And your doctor's analogy makes total sense. Eventually the odds are that you'll get a good one! Hopefully sooner rather than later. You have such a positive attitude - keep thinking that way! FX that the one you have gets fertilized!
@bethann1022 wow that's definitely surprising they wouldn't want to monitor you more closely considering. Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow and you can trigger soon. It sounds so intense to have the ER and host Thanksgiving on the same day! Hope the timing works out the way you want it!
@dragonette505 wow! you really are an IVF warrior! So I guess you were doing testing in the past and now you're not anymore? I'm not doing testing, and I'm not sure how I feel about it - seems so iffy after everything I've read. I'm guessing that's where you're at too.
AFM got the fert report today and we have 7 fertilized. I'm really happy with that! Hoping they continue to grow and I have one or two for the fresh transfer. It'll either be Sunday or Tuesday for me. Sunday my DH is away and Tuesday is a terribly inconvenient day to have to take off work... so I'm not sure what I'm hoping for at this point ha. DH did the PIO shot this morning with no problem, but I'm really sore now after the fact. Not sure how I'm going to manage Sunday when DH is away... I guess I'll make it work! At least it's the weekend and I can just lie around with a heating pad on my butt.
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
Also...YAY on 7 fertilized!!!! Lucky number 7!! Hard to say what day will be better, but hoping whichever day your embies snuggle in and get comfy
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
@emmasemm I’m glad you were able to get one egg I hope it fertilizes and keeps growing for you. I love your determination!
@bethann1022 wow you are moving along quickly. If you get scheduled can he go in and do a sample the day before if its a day he can’t go. I’m glad you pushed for Saturday. That seems like WAY to long to wait considering how quickly your moving along. I hope both of us get to go on Tuesday
@mac627 Yay for your 7
@dragonette505 we did PGS but my clinic does not discard them they get to stay on ice with my normals. They will transfer the normals first but if you don’t have any normals they will allow you to transfer the others.
I’ve had a bit of a rough day. All my labs are good and my follicles are growing. They told me the number for follicles which I didn’t want to know so now I have expectations
they also told me to come in again tomorrow and I’ll likely trigger tomorrow night so the dreaded Monday retrieval seems like a real thing. I have come to the conclusion that I’m just super hormonal because my brain is a little spiraling out of control and jumping all over the place with hurt and blame that it really over the top for the situation. My clinic will allow me to take a cab home as long as they arrange it for me and put me in there. We were out about fertility treatments in the beginning but have gone into hiding about it because it just became too hard to deal with. This process just really always seems to find a new way to throw challenges doesn’t it?
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
So interesting day. My grandfather passed away and it is ok. He has been “tired of the god waiting room as he calls it.” So i told my family i was unable to make the funeral due to being in an IVF cycle. I got no response.... Nuthin...
@sunnyinatx I’m sorry about your grandfather but I understand that sometimes people are ready to go. I hope your family is understanding about not being able to make the funeral. I think a lot of people don’t really get how much an IVF cycle takes over your life and what an emotional and financial investment it is. good luck.
@dragonette505 thank you for the kind words. The follicle counts were actually pretty good (for me). I think it was just one of those things where I was feeling a little overwhelmed.
I’m feeling much better now. DW went to a concert and I had a quiet night at home. I crocheted, watched some dessert cooking show on netflix and ate a pretzel for dinner. Equilibrium restored!
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
glad you got a quiet night at home.... all these hormones will mess with you!
@sunnyinatx so sorry to hear about your grandfather. It must be so hard to suffer a loss and then not be able to be there for the funeral because of this. I hope your family is understanding. I really don’t think people get it. I definitely didn’t until I started this whole process. You have to be available constantly- it’s like an incredibly inflexible full time job! I hope you get a better response from them soon.
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
@mac627, yay for 7, FX that transfer goes well!
@2MomsHoping, I'm so sorry you have to go to the ER yourself. It's nerve wracking enough to have someone there, let alone have to fly solo. We're here for, and I hope everything goes smoothly.
@bethann1022, I'm glad you were able to push for monitoring today, having your prior experience in the back of your head, it's got to provide a lot more comfort to get in sooner.
@2momshoping glad to hear the quiet night in helped
@mac627 7 is a great number! Fx for updates and transfer day!
@dragonette505 I think I might be seeing your 7 and raising you ;-)
Thanks to everyone for your wishes.
So our one egg didn't fertilize. That means we're officially benched for the rest of the month as there's no TWW if you know your egg is already in the medical waste bin :-( DH is really affected this time, which hurts me even more. RE will call on Monday. Then to make a plan for what and when for cycle 3.
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
Also, like @mac627 hoping you can squeeze in another cycle this year
Oh @emmasemm I’m so sorry. I hope you and DH can have some time to grieve together. Reading that your one egg didn’t make it just knocked the wind out of me. I hope you RE can give you some answers and maybe they can switch up your protocol for your next round.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
Welp I got the call. Trigger tonight is at 9:30pm and retrieval on Monday morning. My Freshozen (FET) will be Saturday 11/25 and Beta is scheduled for Sunday 12/3. EEEK!
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2momsHoping eeeeew! Good luck!
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
AFM Ladies.... my attempt at an MRI today was a disaster. I’m basically just calming down after 30 minutes of sobbing. I’m too claustrophobic to deal. I didn’t let him do the contrast part (which ultimately I’m glad about because I didn’t really want that shit in me) so I didn’t even do the “most important part”. The tech was a lying douchebag who kept telling me he wouldn’t put me in further,then kept sliding me in further... it was a total nightmare
imgoing to have several drinks right now.
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
@dragonette505 Ugh, that sounds awful! The tech person sounds horrible to have. Hopefully you can have some drinks and feel better.
@dragonette505 MRI's are really tough, especially for those who are claustrophobic, some people don't even realize until they get into that machine that they actually are. Do you guys have Shields MRI where you live? In MA, we have them pretty much everywhere and I guess they are considered open MRIs (I believe only open on the sides perhaps) so many people who can't do regular MRIs can tolerate them. You also may be able to take some medication (i.e Valium or Ativan) prior to MRI to relax you and even allow you to sleep through test. Can they just do a CT scan with contrast or is that not detailed enough? When do you get your final embryo outcome results?
@2momshoping Happy you get to trigger tonight and move onto the next stage and a Saturday fresh-ozen transfer right after Thanksgiving, you and I continue to be on the same schedule, it is nice having a cycle buddy and hopefully things go well for both of us on Monday! Sorry your DW can't be there on Monday, but hopefully the procedure will be quick and easy and you'll be home and resting before you know it.
AFM, I am so happy I was able to advocate for myself, because as I expected I am ready to trigger (and my RE wasn't even going to have me go for monitoring until tomorrow). My estrogen increased from 1200-2300, LH dropped and the best news is progesterone also dropped to 0.91 (from 2.5 two days ago, RE thinks the first reading was just an inconsistent reading). So the plan is currently to do a fresh transfer on Saturday the 25th, of course dependent on outcome of retrieval and hopefully, fingers crossed no OHSS and a low progesterone tomorrow. The ultrasound tech was really rushed today as they overbooked her of course since it's a Saturday, she didn't give me any information, but kept clicking away and definitely finished quicker than usual at this stage. I think she only measures what appear to be the 10 largest on each ovary when she is looking at ultrasound screen. While the other day I had 9 that were 10-12 and another 20+ that were 8-10, many broke off and unfortunately one took the lead and was 22 this morning. I had 9 others that are 16-19 and another 10 that are 12.8-16. Hopefully the increase in menopur, plus extra vitamins I have been taking helps improve the egg quality this cycle.
Tonight, I will be doing a dual trigger at 11:30, which I am slightly nervous about. I have never taken lupron before and I had strongly requested it at my last clinic, but they just did not believe it yielded favorable results and stuck with only HCG even if OHSS risk as I always was/am. I am doing 100u of lupron tonight along with 2500 of HCG and then tomorrow morning repeat bloodwork and another 100u of lupron after bloodwork is completed. I did my last gonal-F and menopur doses (to make it 8 days) today around 4pm. Anyway I am both excited and nervous to get this ER over with and hopefully get to a fresh transfer. Based on my ERA results from July, I need 6 days of PIO prior to transfer, and my last RE told me that this meant I would always have to do frozen transfers so I could be prepped with 6 days of PIO. But this RE (at a much larger, more experienced clinic), told me that an ERA is not needed for a fresh transfer, since the estrogen and progesterone is produced throughout the cycle. In fact, the calendar I was given doesn't even have PIO with a fresh transfer, it's Crinone once daily and 1 estrogen patch every 2 days I believe. A lot less than the Crinone twice daily and 3 estrogen patches every 48 hours I was doing with FETs before being increased to PIO 2ml daily instead of Crinone. I am trying not to get ahead of myself, and get too excited about fresh transfer as I need to keep reminding myself, it is all dependent on outcome of retrieval Monday!