Hi again ladies, I'm sorry I joined in the conversation and left again so quickly, I won't be starting treatment this month.
**TW - Loss metioned Last weekend my FIL passed away in sudden and tragic circumstances. We were all set to start this round, just waiting for AF to arrive, but it doesn't feel right to go ahead now. DH said it was up to me, but it feels like a very bad idea to push ahead. I believe it's important to be in the best mental state possible before going into this, and neither of us are there now. I think we need to just write off 2017 as a crappy year and look to start afresh in 2018. ** End TW**
I just wanted to wish the best of luck to all of you who are going through this journey at the moment. My thoughts are with you all. I hope I don't see any of you back here in 2018 - and I mean that in the nicest possible way
Take care xxx
**History in Spoiler**
Me 39, DH 40 Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs Seeing RE since Spring 2013 Clomid - no response Letrozole (6 months) 2015 Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015 Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst) FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks FET October 2018 - BFN Final FET - late November 2018
Hi everyone, Sorry I've been MIA the last few days, I am taking a graduate NP class and had an important exam Thursday night and then family came to visit for the weekend so needless to say we were very busy. While I wasn't posting, I was still reading the board nightly and keeping up with everyone
@steph8986 so sorry for your results this cycle. The first cycle is always experimental, so hopefully your RE was able to gain a lot of information and can work with you to develop a successful plan for next round. I understand your need for time away, but we are here if you need us.
@emmasemm Awesome news that your follies are growing, I know you were nervous at first, but hopefully slow and steady will produce the results you are hoping for, 3 or 4 eggs would be amazing!
@dragonette505 Good luck at your retrieval today, will be thinking about you and waiting for the report
@baseballhoney can't wait to hear about your final report and transfer this week, what day is it, Tuesday or Wednesday?
@laurad75 so excited for you to finally get started with this donor cycle. I've been following your story and am really hopeful you're going to get the positive outcome you deserve before the end of 2017!
@mac627 If your retrieval is Friday, your day 5 transfer would Wednesday, so hopefully still before the holiday.
@2MomsHoping Slow and steady, hopefully you'll see more growth at your next scan. My first cycle it took me I believe 7 days of stimming to even get my E2 over 100, and I have PCOS so develop a lot of follicles, she had to almost double my doses and I still stimmed for 13 days that cycle. When I got a second opinion, the RE was so surprised that it took me so long for my follicles to develop, but I just wasn't as sensitive to the meds as they expected.
@roisis- my sincere condolences on the loss of your FIL, I completely understand your decision to put this cycle on hold, the holidays will be tough enough without the added stress. My thoughts and prayers are with you, your DH and your families through this grieving period. Hopefully the start of 2018 will bring us all the joy we are looking for and the new start many of us need! Please feel free to keep in touch and I will be sure to follow your journey when you decide it is the right time to get started, and wish you the best of luck!
AFM, I have officially started stimming. Had my progesterone recheck on Saturday and it was perfect (0.7, down from 1.6 and my RN said that anything under 1 is good to start). So that night I started with 150 gonal-f and 150 Menopur. These are higher doses for me than ever before, and my first monitoring appt is Wednesday morning after 4 days of meds so hoping that is a good dose for my body and not too much. I'm definitely already feeling some cramping in my ovaries, and usually this doesn't kick in for another couple days, but its still early and the RE can always lower doses if needed after my first monitoring. Just grateful to be started, and keeping fingers crossed that ER does not fall on Thanksgiving day since we are hosting!
ETA: I forgot that I have a question. Anyone ever have to do a retrieval through their uterus? Turns out my L ovary is hiding right now, and if it doesn't come out, they have to go through. I'm just curious about how that's going to change recovery. FX it moves!
@dragonette505 I’m on 375 for the folistim and 150 for the
menopure. Also good luck today on your
ER!!!
@emmasemm so happy to hear they are growing for you, It
sounds like you have a lot in the error but your RE seems really on top of
things which is great. Sending good
vibes your way!
@laurad75 I think that ornament is so beautiful, and such a
nice sentiment especially considering the time of the year it is. So excited for you. I can only imagine it took so much to get a
donor cycle started. Wishing you the
best J
@roisis I’m so sorry for your lost. I think it shows a lot of strength to know
when you already have enough on your plate and wait until you are in a better
place to take something on. My
condolences to you and your family and I hope 2018 brings you much joy.
@bethann1022 Thanks for the reassurance! I think I’m just a wee bit nervous because my
RE started me on the higher dose we went up to from my last IVF and then upping
it again made me a little worried but it is very very early. My RE is kinda the best ever so I have trust
in her and now I’m trying to learn to relax and trust my body. Sounds like we are going to be pretty close
in our cycles this month J I’m looking at an ER around the 18th-23nd,
last two times I had my ER on day 13 after starting stims so my money is on the
22nd. We have dinner
reservations out this year with the family for thanksgiving. We were planning to host but not knowing what
was going on we convinced everyone to go out instead. I’m pretty thankful to have that stress off
my plate!
Random question for the group. Do you totally nix alcohol while you are
stimming? I’ve always been a total no-go
for any treatment cycle as a just in case measure and am not a big drinker in
general but I’m hosting my bookclub on Wednesday and am making a Hot Apple
Cider with Buttered Rum I have been looking forward to since LITERALLY
July. Was planning on having a small
glass to sip but I’m feeling a bit guilty about planning to indulge and was
curious if others take such precautions even before the 2WW.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@dragonette505 hope the retrieval went well and you are resting up!
@baseballhoney so exciting that your transfer is tomorrow!! Can’t wait to hear the report.
@laurad75 it’s so exciting that you’re getting started! The ornament is a great idea. So thoughtful.
@2MomsHoping great idea to go out for turkey day! Sounds so much less stressful than hosting! I have cut back on drinking but I think it’s ok to have a glass of wine every once in a while. I’m not going crazy over here trying to act like I’m pregnant every other two weeks for years lol. So I drink in moderation. Somethings gotta get me through IF!!
@bethann1022 so stressful thinking about all these doses. It’s definitely hard to trust the process, even though we know it’s all we can really do. I’m sorry to hear how bad your side effects are. I hope they get more manageable for you, especially since it’s so early on for you.
@roisis I’m so sorry to hear about your loss. It’s always hard to lose someone close to you, especially when it’s unexpected and so close to the holidays. It makes total sense to put your plans on hold while you grieve. One thing at a time! Hoping next year is your time.
Hey all.... still sleepy so will catch up tomorrow (though @roisis I wanted to say how sorry I am for your family’s loss) i got 14 eggs (bummed it’s not more but I guess I suspected some of the littles wouldn’t work out anyway). But my doc was supposed to remove a polyp but she’s now saying what she thinks she saw was a septum.... i found out I had a septum 2 years ago and was told it was no biggie... now I have to go through this process with my current doc... super annoyed!
@dragonette505 fourteen is great! FX for a good report tomorrow. Do you have to have another procedure for the septum? Ugh the waiting!!
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@dragonette505 I think 14 eggs is really great but I know that each person has their own bar for what their body can do and for success. Hopefully they are mature and high quality and you will get some great blasts and maybe you can hit your mental numbers for blasts even if you didn’t get it for eggs! Im sorry to hear your having to redo the septum conversation with anew RE I hope it wont delay things for you.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@laurad75 if I hadn’t been so drugged up i would’ve rolled my eyes SO HARD at my doc finding one more reason to delay me.... I’m going this Saturday to have an MRI to image my uterus.... god knows but they will find some smurfs, an alien and a partridge in a pear tree in there! Lol
@baseballhoney it’s funny because just objectively it makes sense since of the 19 they measured on Friday, 4 of them were sized 8-11 so wouldn’t have been mature enough to fertilize. I just wanted them all anyway lol
@2MomsHoping it’s a good number I guess based on all the metrics... and of course I’m doubly annoyed about the septum business..... I should know next week how much of a problem this doc thinks this is
So the transfer is done. We had 2 really good quality embryos to transfer today. There were 12 eggs total that fertilized but they weren't sure if the rest would make it freeze. They will let me know tomorrow.
So the transfer is done. We had 2 really good quality embryos to transfer today. There were 12 eggs total that fertilized but they weren't sure if the rest would make it freeze. They will let me know tomorrow.
Was this a day 3 transfer??? Out of 12 I'm sure you'll get some to freeze!! ETA: congrats on being PUPO!!
@dragonette505 Yea, they said tomorrow we would know for sure.
makes sense.. you'll find out about your day 5's and day 6's all at once... sometimes the way we get info during these cycles (bit by bit) is nerve wracking!
@dragonette505 It is nerve wracking! I thought they were going to give us all the final information on them today, but I guess tomorrow is the final say. I guess a day isn't too long to wait, just not what I was expecting.
@baseballhoney congrats on your transfer. Sounds like you had good numbers! I think
sometimes they hold off on the freeze report because there might be an embryo
that is lagging behind but still going and an extra day gets them at the stage
to freeze. I’ll keep my fingers crossed
for you to have a great freeze report.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@baseballhoney congrats on being PUPO! Fx for a good freeze report tomorrow too. I agree it is really nerve wracking getting updates piece by piece.
@dragonette505 fx for your 8 - seems to be your lucky number! When do you expect to get updates? And WTF with the septum suddenly becoming an issue??? I mean first there was a polyp and now a septum? Um how can both of just popped up somehow in conversation accidentally? I know this RE has gotten you some good retrievals but wow, the polyp and septum are pretty big things to not talk about right at the moment they're found. Forget smurfs, there's got to be at least one glittery unicorn in there too ;-)
@2momshoping I do totally avoid alcohol every month during TWW and also during stims. My logic is with the money and the effort we're going to I'd hate to do something to jeopardize it. But I think it's down to personal choice pre-conception. How's the stimming going? When's your next monitoring?
@bethann1022 welcome to the nightly stabbing club!
@roisis I'm so sorry to hear your news. Take the time you need.
@laurad75 the ornament is really lovely. Really lovely. I'm sure your donor will appreciate it.
AFM had acupuncture again today. My pulse was apparently lots stronger and she was pleased to hear of the extra follicle that appeared. Also as I won't know the time of a potential transfer (or the day) until Monday morning for sure, then she has reserved early afternoon both days for me to go straight after transfer.
***TW Pregnancy talk - Last night DH and I had a conversation about booking our Xmas travel plans, as we will go to the U.K. and stay at my parents as most years. But so far I haven't booked and normally I book this early. He asked why and was worried I didn't want to book in case this cycle fails. I said no I'm more nervous about if it succeeds! As if it did then I would be 7w on Xmas day. Which is 5-6 weeks earlier than I would want to tell anyone. But keeping it secret whilst staying there and spending every day with my entire family would be nearly impossible. He said he's happy to tell them already (and even now whilst we're cycling!) and I said well he wouldn't be the one dealing with them asking a million questions a day from that moment on, or handling their devastation in case things went wrong. He said its up to me. But after sleeping on it overnight (and thinking about it during acupuncture) I came to the conclusion if I'm in the luxury position to have this as my biggest problem, well - it will be a blessing and if they figure it out then they do and it will all be ok. Just told DH. He thinks I should go to acupuncture every day to make me more zen ;-) end TW***
Also in non IVF cycle news, my DH is such a darling - every year we order chocolate Lindt advent calendars for all our immediate family (parents, brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews). Today a huge parcel was here when I got home. When DH got home he said to open it - and inside was a "his and hers" chocolate Lindt advent calendar (we both get 24 chocolates). In the shape of a heart. He's a big ole softy really :-)
Edit to correct some random awful bump formatting of my post!
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@emmasemm That's so nice that you have your chocolate all planned out! lol Very important... When do you think you will trigger?? I am done with trying to predict what to do if I'm pregnant and whatnot... I say just go with the flow and see how you feel. Maybe book the travel with security so you can amend or cancel without penalties. AFM Well this septum thingy is what my doc thought might be a polyp.... I never mentioned the fact that my first IVF doc saw a possible slight septum because he said its no biggie... now I have to go through it all again and of course it means no transfers this year... no idea when I will be able to transfer at this point... that's why I'm hella bummed. Just seems I cant get anywhere...
@dragonette505 yep very important to have chocolate plans in place ;-) I'm in for hopefully final monitoring in the morning! Basically I don't plan to leave his office unless my RE gives me the green light to trigger hehe. So trigger should be Wednesday night for a Friday morning retrieval. I'm nervous how the four follies are doing - hope the three smaller ones have grown plenty and that the big one doesn't over mature before retrieval. No LH surge yet (yes I'm still using my CBAD to keep a check - and it also means it confirms for me that my E is rising) and no watery or EWCM but CP is really soft and open. So I think my body is ready for ER.
I thought they don't like to do anything with septum unless they're more serious as it can lead to more scar tissue and thus less places for embies to implant? Or do you think she is going to try to remove/repair it? And how come she wasn't sure on the first ER? Or did she spend some extra time digging around in there after your ER this time?
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@emmasemm My fave bossy babe! Get that trigger date!! My doc did an HSG last retrieval and that's why I didn't get to transfer this cycle... she thought it was a polyp that she would remove during this retrieval yesterday, but nope...now she says septum. Shes sending me for an MRI to determine the real deal. I told her my old doc wasn't worried about it, but naturally shes not going by his dx and wants to make her own determination... She said she recommends removing anything over 1cm...I guess I will just see.
@emmasemm whenever it comes to booking trips I always look ahead with the what-ifs too. It can be so difficult but this journey has been long and sometimes rather difficult and I’ve reached a sort of peace with it to just go about my life and take it how it comes. With the exception of vacationing in oh so lovely but zika infested paradises.
@dragonette505 I’m so sorry you aren’t going to be able to transfer this year that is uber crappy, but who knows maybe it is something that needs to be removed. I always walk this annoying line of wanting answers so they can “fix” whatever it is and get me pregnant but oh do I HATE waiting for the time it takes to get those answers. When is your MRI?
As for me. I had another monitoring appointment today. I think things are going pretty well. Today will be my 6th days of stims they are keeping my meds at the same dose as they bumped it up to a couple days ago. My largest is measuring at 13 so I started ganarelix today. Things seem to be moving a little more quickly than my last IVFs. I don’t know how many follicles I have, they don’t tell you unless you ask and i don’t ask. I have weird eggs and tend to get much fewer eggs than follicles so just best for me to not have expectations going into retrieval dyad avoid the disappointment.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2MomsHoping so glad you’re well into this cycle! I miss my vacas in Zika zones too... was just talking about this on another thread last month and thinking how awful it must be to live there My MRI is this Saturday.... hopefully it’ll make stuff clear
@dragonette505 sorry about the annoying waiting game. It’s awesome that all 8 nature follies fertilized! Hoping you get a whole bunch to freeze!
@2MomsHoping that’s great that things are moving along for you! When do they think you’ll trigger?
@emmasemm it’s so hard to plan things!! It’ll be nice to spend time with your family though. We need all the support and down time we can get! Hope those follies are growing and you get the ok to trigger tomorrow! Then you’ll be just a day behind me! Keep us posted.
I triggered tonight for ER on Thursday morning. I’m excited to get on with the next steps but as this is my first IVF cycle I’m also really nervous about - well pretty much everything. From being put under for the procedure to worrying that nothing will come out of this, I’m just an emotional roller coaster, which I’m sure you can all relate to. I’m also sick in addition to the exhaustion, bloating and other fun symptoms that go along with the meds. Yuck.
I'n doing pretty good @emmasemm thanks for asking! How are you? I'll post my update below
*TW*
I'm feeling pretty good, still have my PGAL-brain moments but I'm doing okay. I'm almost 9 weeks & I met my new ob today, loved her. We also got to hear the heartbeat (it was 176) -- other than night time nausea & throwing up, I'm getting by one day at a time
@mac627 yay for pulling the trigger!!! It can be super nerve wracking being put to sleep, but honestly it’s kind of the best part! Lol I’ve heard of places where girls are just given mild sedatives and pain killers! No way I want to be awake for retrieval!!! You just take a lil nap and next thing you know, it’s done! @Aera11 so happy things are going well!!!! It’s so scary pgal but so good you’re sick! Everything is working as it should
@dragonette505 haha yep, I think DH, my parents and my boss would agree with your description of me as a bossy babe hehehehe. My RE takes it all in good spirits though :-) FX for your MRI that it shows nothing major and you get the green light to transfer asap! Though after all your banking rounds and history I guess transferring again will bring its own worries.
@2momshoping sounds like you're coming along nicely. I couldn't handle not knowing how many follies, just so my upper expectation ceiling is clear. But whatever works for you is what you need to do in the end. And related to Zika we had hoped for a South American vacation which is of course now on hold until family building is complete.
@baseballhoney hope the progesterone symptoms aren't hitting you too hard!
@mac627 good luck for ER tomorrow. I'm sure you'll be fine. Most people sail through. Last time was really great for me. Went in, sat on the chair, asked if they would make sure I wouldn't fall off once they sedated me, was ensured they would strap me in(!), then woke up back on my bed in the recovery area. Sleepy the rest of the day but drank plenty and rested and had no issues. My problems came from progesterone side effects in the weeks that follows - so if you haven't used progesterone before do prepare yourself mentally for having 2 weeks of full on PG symptoms which has you constantly symptom spotting.
@aera11 omg 9 weeks... sounds like you're text book - long may it continue!
AFM monitoring had no surprises today. Which is good news! Good to trigger tonight with ER on Friday and assuming we have an emby then transfer day 4 on Tuesday! I've gone from RHS 17mm to RHS 20mm plus 2x 9mm. And LHS 14/14/10 to 18.5/18.5/12. So 6 in total but 3 that hopefully can yield mature eggs. Fx the longer stims didn't negatively affect quality!
After transfer I'm then heading straight to acupuncture (which I've been to 3 times now whilst stimming) and then onto a train for 6 hours. Which is probably the most effective way to keep me relaxing that afternoon!
With the way this cycle has gone (more follies appearing every monitoring session) I already mentioned today that I want to seriously talk Estrogen or Lupron priming for the next cycle. It seems clear to me that I am one of those people who has waves of follies recruited several times throughout a cycle - and if we can use priming to hold back 1 or 2 waves then I might really have a chance for 4-6 eggs in a single retrieval - which is a lot different to 1-2.
Me 43 DH 45 Married 12/2016 TTC #1 since 04/2015 AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis 7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high) May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality) Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality) Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst) Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality) Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH) Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@emmasemm yay for 6! I agree a bit of priming might yield you one or two more mature! I have to tell you that I’ve found priming to be suppressive, but again, if it nets you a couple more eggs, it might be worth a try! So glad you’re triggering!!!!! Let’s get this show on the road!
@mac6126 Yay for the trigger. My ER wasn't bad. Just had some cramping and bloating after. They didn't completely put me out though.
@emmasemm Actually the progesterone isn't as bad as when I did my IUIs. I have some bloating and spotting which isn't too bad. I talked to the RE about the spotting yesterday and when he did the transfer he said he could see where it was coming from on the cervix so he wasn't concerned. I just hate doing the suppositories. The shot isn't so bad though. When I was in it for the IUIs I would become so crazy and that hasn't happened yet.
Yay!!! Glad to know all you ladies are progressing well.
AFM, I’m now on my estrogen patch. Hoping for AF to arrive next Monday. Can’t wait to start my next cycle. Was wondering what are your thoughts on 3 day vs 5 day transfer? Know of any successes with 3 day transfer?
Re: November IVF
@emmasemm Yay for the follies growing again. Hopefully you can get some great eggs.
@dragonette505 Good luck today! Hopefully the ER goes well.
**TW - Loss metioned
Last weekend my FIL passed away in sudden and tragic circumstances. We were all set to start this round, just waiting for AF to arrive, but it doesn't feel right to go ahead now. DH said it was up to me, but it feels like a very bad idea to push ahead. I believe it's important to be in the best mental state possible before going into this, and neither of us are there now. I think we need to just write off 2017 as a crappy year and look to start afresh in 2018. ** End TW**
I just wanted to wish the best of luck to all of you who are going through this journey at the moment. My thoughts are with you all. I hope I don't see any of you back here in 2018 - and I mean that in the nicest possible way
Take care xxx
Married Oct 2010, TTC ~7yrs
Seeing RE since Spring 2013
Clomid - no response
Letrozole (6 months) 2015
Laperoscopy/Hysteroscopy in 2015
Puregon injectibles + trigger x5 in 2016 - all BFN
Started IVF March 2017 - 25 follies, 9 eggs, 3 fertilised, 1 survived-> frozen due to hyper stimulation of ovaries
FET May 16th 2017, BFP May 27th 2017, m/c @ 9wks
IVF #2 February 2018 - 16 eggs, 8 fertilised, 3 frozen embabies
Awaiting FET April 2018 - cancelled (cyst)
FET May 2018, BFP June 2nd 2018, m/c @ 8wks
FET October 2018 - BFN
Final FET - late November 2018
@steph8986 so sorry for your results this cycle. The first cycle is always experimental, so hopefully your RE was able to gain a lot of information and can work with you to develop a successful plan for next round. I understand your need for time away, but we are here if you need us.
@emmasemm Awesome news that your follies are growing, I know you were nervous at first, but hopefully slow and steady will produce the results you are hoping for, 3 or 4 eggs would be amazing!
@dragonette505 Good luck at your retrieval today, will be thinking about you and waiting for the report
@baseballhoney can't wait to hear about your final report and transfer this week, what day is it, Tuesday or Wednesday?
@laurad75 so excited for you to finally get started with this donor cycle. I've been following your story and am really hopeful you're going to get the positive outcome you deserve before the end of 2017!
@mac627 If your retrieval is Friday, your day 5 transfer would Wednesday, so hopefully still before the holiday.
@roisis- my sincere condolences on the loss of your FIL, I completely understand your decision to put this cycle on hold, the holidays will be tough enough without the added stress. My thoughts and prayers are with you, your DH and your families through this grieving period. Hopefully the start of 2018 will bring us all the joy we are looking for and the new start many of us need! Please feel free to keep in touch and I will be sure to follow your journey when you decide it is the right time to get started, and wish you the best of luck!
AFM, I have officially started stimming. Had my progesterone recheck on Saturday and it was perfect (0.7, down from 1.6 and my RN said that anything under 1 is good to start). So that night I started with 150 gonal-f and 150 Menopur. These are higher doses for me than ever before, and my first monitoring appt is Wednesday morning after 4 days of meds so hoping that is a good dose for my body and not too much. I'm definitely already feeling some cramping in my ovaries, and usually this doesn't kick in for another couple days, but its still early and the RE can always lower doses if needed after my first monitoring. Just grateful to be started, and keeping fingers crossed that ER does not fall on Thanksgiving day since we are hosting!
What do you all have planned for the holiday?
edited for length and grammar
@laurad75, that is so sweet and beautiful.
ETA: I forgot that I have a question. Anyone ever have to do a retrieval through their uterus? Turns out my L ovary is hiding right now, and if it doesn't come out, they have to go through. I'm just curious about how that's going to change recovery. FX it moves!
@dragonette505 I’m on 375 for the folistim and 150 for the menopure. Also good luck today on your ER!!!
@emmasemm so happy to hear they are growing for you, It sounds like you have a lot in the error but your RE seems really on top of things which is great. Sending good vibes your way!
@laurad75 I think that ornament is so beautiful, and such a nice sentiment especially considering the time of the year it is. So excited for you. I can only imagine it took so much to get a donor cycle started. Wishing you the best J
@roisis I’m so sorry for your lost. I think it shows a lot of strength to know when you already have enough on your plate and wait until you are in a better place to take something on. My condolences to you and your family and I hope 2018 brings you much joy.
@bethann1022 Thanks for the reassurance! I think I’m just a wee bit nervous because my RE started me on the higher dose we went up to from my last IVF and then upping it again made me a little worried but it is very very early. My RE is kinda the best ever so I have trust in her and now I’m trying to learn to relax and trust my body. Sounds like we are going to be pretty close in our cycles this month J I’m looking at an ER around the 18th-23nd, last two times I had my ER on day 13 after starting stims so my money is on the 22nd. We have dinner reservations out this year with the family for thanksgiving. We were planning to host but not knowing what was going on we convinced everyone to go out instead. I’m pretty thankful to have that stress off my plate!
Random question for the group. Do you totally nix alcohol while you are stimming? I’ve always been a total no-go for any treatment cycle as a just in case measure and am not a big drinker in general but I’m hosting my bookclub on Wednesday and am making a Hot Apple Cider with Buttered Rum I have been looking forward to since LITERALLY July. Was planning on having a small glass to sip but I’m feeling a bit guilty about planning to indulge and was curious if others take such precautions even before the 2WW.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@bethann1022 Congrats for starting stimming! My transfer is tomorrow morning. I am anxiously awaiting the report
@2MomsHoping I don't use alcohol when I am stimming, but DH and I rarely drink anyway so I don't even really think about it.
@baseballhoney so exciting that your transfer is tomorrow!! Can’t wait to hear the report.
@laurad75 it’s so exciting that you’re getting started! The ornament is a great idea. So thoughtful.
@2MomsHoping great idea to go out for turkey day! Sounds so much less stressful than hosting! I have cut back on drinking but I think it’s ok to have a glass of wine every once in a while. I’m not going crazy over here trying to act like I’m pregnant every other two weeks for years lol. So I drink in moderation. Somethings gotta get me through IF!!
@emmasemm hoping your follies keep growing!!
@bethann1022 so stressful thinking about all these doses. It’s definitely hard to trust the process, even though we know it’s all we can really do. I’m sorry to hear how bad your side effects are. I hope they get more manageable for you, especially since it’s so early on for you.
@roisis I’m so sorry to hear about your loss. It’s always hard to lose someone close to you, especially when it’s unexpected and so close to the holidays. It makes total sense to put your plans on hold while you grieve. One thing at a time! Hoping next year is your time.
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
i got 14 eggs (bummed it’s not more but I guess I suspected some of the littles wouldn’t work out anyway). But my doc was supposed to remove a polyp but she’s now saying what she thinks she saw was a septum....
i found out I had a septum 2 years ago and was told it was no biggie... now I have to go through this process with my current doc... super annoyed!
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
Take a look at my blog
@dragonette505 I think 14 eggs is really great but I know that each person has their own bar for what their body can do and for success. Hopefully they are mature and high quality and you will get some great blasts and maybe you can hit your mental numbers for blasts even if you didn’t get it for eggs! Im sorry to hear your having to redo the septum conversation with anew RE I hope it wont delay things for you.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
Now lets hope I get some to freeze!
Was this a day 3 transfer??? Out of 12 I'm sure you'll get some to freeze!!
ETA: congrats on being PUPO!!
makes sense.. you'll find out about your day 5's and day 6's all at once... sometimes the way we get info during these cycles (bit by bit) is nerve wracking!
@dragonette505 8 is great! Grow embabies grow!
@baseballhoney congrats on your transfer. Sounds like you had good numbers! I think sometimes they hold off on the freeze report because there might be an embryo that is lagging behind but still going and an extra day gets them at the stage to freeze. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you to have a great freeze report.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@dragonette505 fx for your 8 - seems to be your lucky number! When do you expect to get updates? And WTF with the septum suddenly becoming an issue??? I mean first there was a polyp and now a septum? Um how can both of just popped up somehow in conversation accidentally? I know this RE has gotten you some good retrievals but wow, the polyp and septum are pretty big things to not talk about right at the moment they're found. Forget smurfs, there's got to be at least one glittery unicorn in there too ;-)
@2momshoping I do totally avoid alcohol every month during TWW and also during stims. My logic is with the money and the effort we're going to I'd hate to do something to jeopardize it. But I think it's down to personal choice pre-conception. How's the stimming going? When's your next monitoring?
@bethann1022 welcome to the nightly stabbing club!
@roisis I'm so sorry to hear your news. Take the time you need.
@laurad75 the ornament is really lovely. Really lovely. I'm sure your donor will appreciate it.
@tosh24 how's it going?
AFM had acupuncture again today. My pulse was apparently lots stronger and she was pleased to hear of the extra follicle that appeared. Also as I won't know the time of a potential transfer (or the day) until Monday morning for sure, then she has reserved early afternoon both days for me to go straight after transfer.
***TW Pregnancy talk - Last night DH and I had a conversation about booking our Xmas travel plans, as we will go to the U.K. and stay at my parents as most years. But so far I haven't booked and normally I book this early. He asked why and was worried I didn't want to book in case this cycle fails. I said no I'm more nervous about if it succeeds! As if it did then I would be 7w on Xmas day. Which is 5-6 weeks earlier than I would want to tell anyone. But keeping it secret whilst staying there and spending every day with my entire family would be nearly impossible. He said he's happy to tell them already (and even now whilst we're cycling!) and I said well he wouldn't be the one dealing with them asking a million questions a day from that moment on, or handling their devastation in case things went wrong. He said its up to me. But after sleeping on it overnight (and thinking about it during acupuncture) I came to the conclusion if I'm in the luxury position to have this as my biggest problem, well - it will be a blessing and if they figure it out then they do and it will all be ok. Just told DH. He thinks I should go to acupuncture every day to make me more zen ;-) end TW***
Also in non IVF cycle news, my DH is such a darling - every year we order chocolate Lindt advent calendars for all our immediate family (parents, brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews). Today a huge parcel was here when I got home. When DH got home he said to open it - and inside was a "his and hers" chocolate Lindt advent calendar (we both get 24 chocolates). In the shape of a heart. He's a big ole softy really :-)
Edit to correct some random awful bump formatting of my post!
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
I'm in for hopefully final monitoring in the morning! Basically I don't plan to leave his office unless my RE gives me the green light to trigger hehe. So trigger should be Wednesday night for a Friday morning retrieval.
I'm nervous how the four follies are doing - hope the three smaller ones have grown plenty and that the big one doesn't over mature before retrieval. No LH surge yet (yes I'm still using my CBAD to keep a check - and it also means it confirms for me that my E is rising) and no watery or EWCM but CP is really soft and open. So I think my body is ready for ER.
I thought they don't like to do anything with septum unless they're more serious as it can lead to more scar tissue and thus less places for embies to implant? Or do you think she is going to try to remove/repair it? And how come she wasn't sure on the first ER? Or did she spend some extra time digging around in there after your ER this time?
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
My doc did an HSG last retrieval and that's why I didn't get to transfer this cycle... she thought it was a polyp that she would remove during this retrieval yesterday, but nope...now she says septum. Shes sending me for an MRI to determine the real deal. I told her my old doc wasn't worried about it, but naturally shes not going by his dx and wants to make her own determination... She said she recommends removing anything over 1cm...I guess I will just see.
@emmasemm whenever it comes to booking trips I always look ahead with the what-ifs too. It can be so difficult but this journey has been long and sometimes rather difficult and I’ve reached a sort of peace with it to just go about my life and take it how it comes. With the exception of vacationing in oh so lovely but zika infested paradises.
@dragonette505 I’m so sorry you aren’t going to be able to transfer this year that is uber crappy, but who knows maybe it is something that needs to be removed. I always walk this annoying line of wanting answers so they can “fix” whatever it is and get me pregnant but oh do I HATE waiting for the time it takes to get those answers. When is your MRI?
As for me. I had another monitoring appointment today. I think things are going pretty well. Today will be my 6th days of stims they are keeping my meds at the same dose as they bumped it up to a couple days ago. My largest is measuring at 13 so I started ganarelix today. Things seem to be moving a little more quickly than my last IVFs. I don’t know how many follicles I have, they don’t tell you unless you ask and i don’t ask. I have weird eggs and tend to get much fewer eggs than follicles so just best for me to not have expectations going into retrieval dyad avoid the disappointment.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
My MRI is this Saturday.... hopefully it’ll make stuff clear
@emmasemm I hope your appointment went well. We totally have to be our own advocates!
@2MomsHoping Glad to hear everything is going pretty well.
@2MomsHoping that’s great that things are moving along for you! When do they think you’ll trigger?
@emmasemm it’s so hard to plan things!! It’ll be nice to spend time with your family though. We need all the support and down time we can get! Hope those follies are growing and you get the ok to trigger tomorrow! Then you’ll be just a day behind me! Keep us posted.
I triggered tonight for ER on Thursday morning. I’m excited to get on with the next steps but as this is my first IVF cycle I’m also really nervous about - well pretty much everything. From being put under for the procedure to worrying that nothing will come out of this, I’m just an emotional roller coaster, which I’m sure you can all relate to. I’m also sick in addition to the exhaustion, bloating and other fun symptoms that go along with the meds. Yuck.
dx: DOR
8 cycles Clomid (1 BFP & MC)
IVF #1
Great numbers @dragonette505! Hoping you get lots to freeze
congrats on being PUPO @baseballhoney!
I'n doing pretty good @emmasemm
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I'm feeling pretty good, still have my PGAL-brain moments but I'm doing okay. I'm almost 9 weeks & I met my new ob today, loved her. We also got to hear the heartbeat (it was 176) -- other than night time nausea & throwing up, I'm getting by one day at a time
@Aera11 so happy things are going well!!!! It’s so scary pgal but so good you’re sick! Everything is working as it should
@2momshoping sounds like you're coming along nicely. I couldn't handle not knowing how many follies, just so my upper expectation ceiling is clear. But whatever works for you is what you need to do in the end.
And related to Zika we had hoped for a South American vacation which is of course now on hold until family building is complete.
@baseballhoney hope the progesterone symptoms aren't hitting you too hard!
@mac627 good luck for ER tomorrow. I'm sure you'll be fine. Most people sail through. Last time was really great for me. Went in, sat on the chair, asked if they would make sure I wouldn't fall off once they sedated me, was ensured they would strap me in(!), then woke up back on my bed in the recovery area. Sleepy the rest of the day but drank plenty and rested and had no issues. My problems came from progesterone side effects in the weeks that follows - so if you haven't used progesterone before do prepare yourself mentally for having 2 weeks of full on PG symptoms which has you constantly symptom spotting.
@aera11 omg 9 weeks... sounds like you're text book - long may it continue!
AFM monitoring had no surprises today. Which is good news! Good to trigger tonight with ER on Friday and assuming we have an emby then transfer day 4 on Tuesday!
I've gone from RHS 17mm to RHS 20mm plus 2x 9mm. And LHS 14/14/10 to 18.5/18.5/12.
So 6 in total but 3 that hopefully can yield mature eggs.
Fx the longer stims didn't negatively affect quality!
After transfer I'm then heading straight to acupuncture (which I've been to 3 times now whilst stimming) and then onto a train for 6 hours. Which is probably the most effective way to keep me relaxing that afternoon!
With the way this cycle has gone (more follies appearing every monitoring session) I already mentioned today that I want to seriously talk Estrogen or Lupron priming for the next cycle. It seems clear to me that I am one of those people who has waves of follies recruited several times throughout a cycle - and if we can use priming to hold back 1 or 2 waves then I might really have a chance for 4-6 eggs in a single retrieval - which is a lot different to 1-2.
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
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@emmasemm Actually the progesterone isn't as bad as when I did my IUIs. I have some bloating and spotting which isn't too bad. I talked to the RE about the spotting yesterday and when he did the transfer he said he could see where it was coming from on the cervix so he wasn't concerned. I just hate doing the suppositories. The shot isn't so bad though. When I was in it for the IUIs I would become so crazy and that hasn't happened yet.
AFM, I’m now on my estrogen patch. Hoping for AF to arrive next Monday. Can’t wait to start my next cycle. Was wondering what are your thoughts on 3 day vs 5 day transfer? Know of any successes with 3 day transfer?