@mytinc That is very true. You can't control who you'll get. It's good to try to figure out if yours is the only good OB in the practice for that reason, lol.
@zamora_spin DD was sunny side up also and I delivered vaginally. 2 1/2 hours of pushing and an episiotomy later but I delivered vaginally. If I wouldn't have had the doctor I had with the experience he had there's no question I would have had a C Section also.
BFP #1 October 2008 | m/c Thanksgiving weekend | November 2008 | 7 weeks 2 days BFP #2 February 2009 | m/c March 2009 | 4 weeks 3 days
Testing on mom and dad for possible reasons all came back normal.
BFP #3 8/4/2009 | DD born 3/28/10 @ 38 weeks
BFP #4 5/13/11 | m/c 6/15/11 | 8 weeks 6 days
BFP #5 2/13/13 | CP 2/19/13 | 4 weeks
BFP #6 3/21/14 | Heard the HB on 4/16 | m/c 4/21/14 | 9 weeks
Testing results all returned normal and baby was a GIRL.
More testing on mom and dad for other issues all returned normal results. BFP #7 10/15 | DS born 6/4/16 @ 36 weeks BFP #8 9/28/17 AHHH!!! | EDD 6/6/18
"Dear Lord, I would have loved to have held my babies on my lap & tell them about you, but since I didn't get the chance, would you please hold them on your lap & tell them about me?" All are welcome!
@zamora_spin That's crazy they would have made her get a c-section. Both my kids were delivered vaginally face up. It was never even mentioned to me regarding c/s.
@zamora_spin - - a sunny side up baby (posterior position) is head down but face up (face in the abdomen). If your sister's baby was face down (anterior position), that is actually the preferred birthing position. Posterior babies may make labor harder / harder. My kid was sunny side up in ROP and destroyed me during labor (fast, but difficult). This website is a great resource for labor positioning of babies: https://spinningbabies.com/learn-more/baby-positions/belly-mapping/
@marcus7676 Thanks for the link! Both my kids where sunny side up but we didn't know until they started coming out. Maybe that's why they didn't mention c/s to me.
I’ve heard that sunny side up is totally fine if you have a particular pelvis shape, which I think generally midwives are better trained to recognize? I believe is the anthropoid pelvis? More common in black and Hispanic women. I think it’s very hard for gynecoid pelvis but nearly impossible for android or platypoid pelvises? I am probably spelling those words wrong lol.
I had a sunny side up baby. I pushed for 3 hours; however, nothing changed. My doctor would have let me labor all night if I wanted to and dd's vitals were fine. But I wound up asking for the c/s because I was exhausted from 15 hours of labor and no epidural.
@marcus7676 It's clear I don't really understand birthing positions, thanks for the link.
Now idk what it was, except every OB has said to her they would have done a c-section so, whichever way is harder I guess. @doxiemoxie212 My mom's hips were too narrow to give birth to me so I was a c-section, I hope I have wider hips. They weirdly let my mom labor forever both with me and my sister, even though VBAC wasn't a thing when my sister was born. Dumb.
@zamora_spin Just as an anecdote: I have super narrow hips and was worried about being able to push out a kid, but my baby shot out of there like a rocket. I have been told it has more to do with the alignment of the pelvis/pubic bone/birth canal, but I don't know...it all sounds like pure chance to me. Anyway, just some hope for the narrow-hipped ladies!
Me: 34 Husband: 35 Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17 BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
@zamora_spin Just as an anecdote: I have super narrow hips and was worried about being able to push out a kid, but my baby shot out of there like a rocket. I have been told it has more to do with the alignment of the pelvis/pubic bone/birth canal, but I don't know...it all sounds like pure chance to me. Anyway, just some hope for the narrow-hipped ladies!
Yes it’s entireky unrelated to the exterior of your hips. It’s the interior. Let me go find the YouTube video I posted a while ago. It explains it so well.
From what I’ve researched, you can soooort of guess your pelvis shape from the width of your pubic bone, and how much space is like, available between your sit bones when you bring your knees up to your chest? But realistically you need an X-ray to tell.
I just googled the different types of pelvis structures - fascinating!
My practice is 50/50 OB and Midwife. I had a typical, low-risk pregnancy with my now 11-month-old DD and preferred to skip the epidural, so went the midwife route. I decided it was important to me to deliver in a hospital in case of emergency and was comforted by the fact that, if an emergency arose or c-section was needed, my on-call midwife would stick with me and the on-call OB would join us. As an added layer, I hired a doula for support for a non-medicated birth. A few things I learned.
1) Midwives do spend more time with you but personality and approach matter! Because I knew it was an on-call situation, I made sure to have a pre-natal appt with each MW. One of them rubbed me wrong every time I saw her. She was anti “natural birth”, would only do deliveries on the back, etc. Every time I had her, I left wondering “wth was the point of getting a MW if she’s pushing drugs, etc?!” No other MW was like this, so I prayed she wouldn’t be on-call when I delivered.
2) God has a sense of humor. I went in for my 40-week check already having intermittent contractions and the MW in the office didn’t like my BP. She sent me for to the hospital for observation and guess who was on-call?! Yep, the one MW I didn’t want.
3) Educate yourself! From the moment I walked in the hospital door, annoying MW was trying to put me on pitocin. My doula was en route, so I needed to advocate for myself. I asked questions: “Why pitocin? I’ve been contracting all day and they are getting closer together, kinda seems like my body is going into labor on its own, do you agree? I plan no epidural, won’t pitocin make that a lot more painful, thus cause me to want an epi?Why rush something/make more painful when my body is progressing on its own?” Her responses made it clear pitocin was her preference and was far from a medical necessity. I declined and she backed off. Two hours later I was in full blown, contracting on my own labor, sans pitocin. My going to the hospital for “observation” nearly turned into an unnecessary induction, but being my own advocate gave my body the 2 hours it needed to do its own thing.
4) Be flexible. 20 hours after being admitted, I was spent. I’d been contracting intensely for nearly a whole day, my energy was drained and DD was sunny side up, which meant her descent was longer and more painful. I begged for that epidural and told the anesthesiologist he was m BFF - I had no shame lol. To this day, I’m glad I got it when I did. I got to 8 centimeters and was able to be mobile for the majority of labor. but the epidural allowed me to save some strength before pushing.
5) OBs aren’t the devil. After hour 20, annoying MW went home and super great MW took over. By the time I started pushing, I had my DH, doula, super great MW and the on-Call OB, who I never met a day in my life, cheering me on. Maybe it was because something was wrong and I didn’t know it, or maybe he was thinking I could use all the help I could get after a 24-hour labor! Regardless I appreciated the OB’s support.
Moral of the story - trust yourself and your providers (yes, even the annoying ones). If you know the right questions to ask and are flexible, you and baby will be fine. Because I was able to identify that pitocin was a preference and not medically necessary, I avoided my body being rushed into labor unnecessarily, which I believe allowed me the flexibility to not get an epidural until I was 8 centimeters. Because of that, I could walk, go to the bathroom and get on all fours to successfully spin DD before I started pushing.
Whew! That was a book. I hope it was helpful to someone!
EDIT: clarity and spelling
Me: 31; DH: 31 NTNP: May 2015 TTC #1: late August 2015 PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016 BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!
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BFP #2 February 2009 | m/c March 2009 | 4 weeks 3 days
BFP #7 10/15 | DS born 6/4/16 @ 36 weeks
BFP #8 9/28/17 AHHH!!! | EDD 6/6/18
All are welcome!
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
Now idk what it was, except every OB has said to her they would have done a c-section so, whichever way is harder I guess.
@doxiemoxie212 My mom's hips were too narrow to give birth to me so I was a c-section, I hope I have wider hips. They weirdly let my mom labor forever both with me and my sister, even though VBAC wasn't a thing when my sister was born. Dumb.
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7YucfJuziU
From what I’ve researched, you can soooort of guess your pelvis shape from the width of your pubic bone, and how much space is like, available between your sit bones when you bring your knees up to your chest? But realistically you need an X-ray to tell.
FASCINATING. The human body is wild. I’m gonna try to do some pelvis-guessing this weekend...
Husband: 35
Married: June 2007
Son Max born 1/10/17
BFP #2: 10/5/17; EDD: 6/11/18
My practice is 50/50 OB and Midwife. I had a typical, low-risk pregnancy with my now 11-month-old DD and preferred to skip the epidural, so went the midwife route. I decided it was important to me to deliver in a hospital in case of emergency and was comforted by the fact that, if an emergency arose or c-section was needed, my on-call midwife would stick with me and the on-call OB would join us. As an added layer, I hired a doula for support for a non-medicated birth. A few things I learned.
1) Midwives do spend more time with you but personality and approach matter! Because I knew it was an on-call situation, I made sure to have a pre-natal appt with each MW. One of them rubbed me wrong every time I saw her. She was anti “natural birth”, would only do deliveries on the back, etc. Every time I had her, I left wondering “wth was the point of getting a MW if she’s pushing drugs, etc?!” No other MW was like this, so I prayed she wouldn’t be on-call when I delivered.
2) God has a sense of humor. I went in for my 40-week check already having intermittent contractions and the MW in the office didn’t like my BP. She sent me for to the hospital for observation and guess who was on-call?! Yep, the one MW I didn’t want.
3) Educate yourself! From the moment I walked in the hospital door, annoying MW was trying to put me on pitocin. My doula was en route, so I needed to advocate for myself. I asked questions: “Why pitocin? I’ve been contracting all day and they are getting closer together, kinda seems like my body is going into labor on its own, do you agree? I plan no epidural, won’t pitocin make that a lot more painful, thus cause me to want an epi?Why rush something/make more painful when my body is progressing on its own?” Her responses made it clear pitocin was her preference and was far from a medical necessity. I declined and she backed off. Two hours later I was in full blown, contracting on my own labor, sans pitocin. My going to the hospital for “observation” nearly turned into an unnecessary induction, but being my own advocate gave my body the 2 hours it needed to do its own thing.
4) Be flexible. 20 hours after being admitted, I was spent. I’d been contracting intensely for nearly a whole day, my energy was drained and DD was sunny side up, which meant her descent was longer and more painful. I begged for that epidural and told the anesthesiologist he was m BFF - I had no shame lol. To this day, I’m glad I got it when I did. I got to 8 centimeters and was able to be mobile for the majority of labor. but the epidural allowed me to save some strength before pushing.
5) OBs aren’t the devil. After hour 20, annoying MW went home and super great MW took over. By the time I started pushing, I had my DH, doula, super great MW and the on-Call OB, who I never met a day in my life, cheering me on. Maybe it was because something was wrong and I didn’t know it, or maybe he was thinking I could use all the help I could get after a 24-hour labor! Regardless I appreciated the OB’s support.
Moral of the story - trust yourself and your providers (yes, even the annoying ones). If you know the right questions to ask and are flexible, you and baby will be fine. Because I was able to identify that pitocin was a preference and not medically necessary, I avoided my body being rushed into labor unnecessarily, which I believe allowed me the flexibility to not get an epidural until I was 8 centimeters. Because of that, I could walk, go to the bathroom and get on all fours to successfully spin DD before I started pushing.
Whew! That was a book. I hope it was helpful to someone!
EDIT: clarity and spelling
NTNP: May 2015
TTC #1: late August 2015
PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016
BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!