Anyone doing IVF in July/August?

tnh0413 · October 2017

I wanted to update all you lovely ladies that got me through the first part of all this (since I’ve been mostly over at the Oct FET thread)

My FET today went smoothly! I’ve been on/off napping from th Valium the past 4 hours. Our beta is in 9 days instead of 14! I was pleasantly surprised it wasn’t a full two weeks. I’ll probably POAS in 8 days—do y’all think that would be acceptable and not too early??

I cant believe I’ve made it this far when just over two months ago I was waiting on AF to come to start BCPs to start my first round of IVF wow!!!

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

@Tnh0413 woohoo youre PASP!!! YES!! i sent you pre sticky vibed and now im sending extra sticky glue your way YAY!!!!!!
hope ur relaxing watching somethinf funny!!

tinjp78 · October 2017

@tnh0413 congratulations!!!!

helloworld9 · October 2017

@tnh0413 Yay for your FET!! Hoping this one sticks!

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

Hello ladies!!

hoping everyone's cycles are going well!!! Sending miracle grow to @dragonette505 ....extra sticky vibes to the rest of you waiting for FET!!! Ladies in tww hoping to hear some good news soon!!!

AFM: The nausea is certainly picking up dear lord!!

Today was off to a bumpy start as OH had an emergency to tend too so that meant I was going solo. It is what it is. Pnut looked great and measured 6wks 4days. Technically a day behind which I'm not worried about! Heart beat was great at 134!!

Good day very happy!!! Now onto the next US, I go back Oct 27th

TW pnut from today

Spoiler

dragonette505 · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom OMG! So sweet! Sorry you are feeling like trash, but also very glad!!! I know MS is awful (TW in past I had Hyperemesis Gravidarum and I felt like death) But id give anything to have it again and I'm cheering every time one of us gets it!

Its definitely not fun to go to appointments alone

ReesaAnne16 · October 2017

Yay!! @Hopeful_mom such a cute little peanut!!! I was calling ours jellybean at that stage

Every day is different but today I definitely am feeling pregnant. Nothing sounded good since the nausea was lasting all day. I managed to eat an apple, some hot cocoa, Mac n Cheese, a few pickles, and chips and with nacho cheese for dinner (I never buy jared nacho "cheese" but it's the only thing that sounded good... all well, it's food.) I normally eat so much healthier, but I guess it's better than nothing.

TW 9w2d US pics & announcement pics

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We're going to visit family this weekend and gift these bottles of wine! So excited

tinjp78 · October 2017

Awwww!!! @Hopeful_mom and @ReesaAnne16 your posts really made my day! My day is actually just starting but seeing your updates made me smile and encouraged. I feel hope and happiness just by looking at your precious sonograms! I pray for all the best for you!

helloworld9 · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom That's wonderful news!! And great u/s pic! And that's good you are having symptoms!

I was 3 days behind on my 6, 7, and 8 week ultrasounds. So 1 day is fantastic! And I am basically symptomless this entire pregnancy..... sometimes I think is this real or not?

@ReesaAnne16 That is such a cute announcement idea! And what a great u/s photo! When is your EDD? I noticed it says May.

Mine is May 4, according to my RE

AFM (pregnancy)

I told my mom yesterday I'm pregnant, and the first thing she asks was whether it was natural. Head desk. She doesn't know about the IVF. I told her, yes, this is natural, and then she gets on a tirade about my RE being a liar and that "everything was fine" and that I needed to "relax" etc. UGH. So frustrating. Why can't she just be happy??? She's always like this. Then she thought I was overreacting etc. etc. Ugh. I guess I have to take my IVF secret to my grave, at least with her.

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

@ReesaAnne16

TW pregnancy stuff mentioned

@ReesaAnne16 awwwwwww that's some jellybean a see the lil baby already love it!!!

as much as we want to eat healthy it has to be whatever sounds good and Mit want to vomit from it! I also think I'm not eating often enough and that's part of the problem. Today I can't even look at salad and eating chips and a burritos!! The actual eating is good it's the pre and post go figure!! Have you joined the PAIF board, I will see if I have enough courage to make that leap!

Omg I could not love those announcements more, awesome!!! And it's the first so it's really gonna be something else!! Are you going to find out the gender??

ReesaAnne16 · October 2017

@helloworld9 May 15th

@Hopeful_mom

I've posted over at PAIF board a few times, but it's very quiet over there. Also I don't really feel like I belong on the May BMB either. People in the IF forums are so encouraging and respectful toward one another, and the BMB is like rejoining TTGP board all over again with the bullying and the drama. I'm kinda just sticking around to see how the rest of the these lovely ladies FET's turn out in November

We will probably find out the gender but keep it a secret, so we don't get tons of gender specific stuff and clothes.
It's so exciting to finally tell my family this weekend, I'm pretty sure they will all cry

They know that out only next step was IVF, but they don't know that we already did it

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

@helloworld9 I don't know how great these symptoms are I can barely read

TW pregnancy mentioned

I'm kind of dumbfounded by your mom. I'm kind of speechless which doesn't happen often

my mom is uber concerned with all the drugs from stemming and hates I have to do it but couldn't be happier. We're all nervous but trying to get through one day at a time.
It's the whole oh u just need to relax really!!! We all say if one more person says that!!!
im so thrilled u had a natural pregnancy at least you know you have baby 2 ready to go

. It must be hard not to be able to share that with her but it doesn't seem like she's very open to it. Mine more finds it hard to keep up with all the different drugs and shots etc!! She feels terrible I have to go through this process!!
Bringing a healthy baby home will all be worth it!!

ENJOY the no symptoms I'm hoping this will taper off sooner rather then later!!!

Are you on the PAIF boards? I'm hoping we all can continue on with our full pregnancy!

i already have my own bump so I'm not gonna even be showing for awhile so I don't even have to share

[Deleted User] · October 2017

@helloworld9 wow. I am so sorry she's like that. Our parents don't know, and I'm sure DH woukd like to keep it that way. I'm not sure how much sense that makes bc it's not as if they wouldn't be supportive, but I do understand his desire for privacy regarding his dx, so I guess I will have to do my best to respect his wishes with that, hard as it might be. His sister is the only one in the family who knows.... I just feel like - that's his mother, his father, why shouldn't they know what their own son went through??? Like it hurts my heart bc I feel like it could help alleviate some sense of shame he must be carrying.... but time will tell. For now, my announcement onesie came, but I didn't have the heart to unfold it... it's SO tiny!!!
<div class=" Spoiler"><img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/c1/iz11gq4vpmvv.jpg" alt="" title="Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/c1/iz11gq4vpmvv.jpg"></div>Hopefully we get to use it over the holidays / New Year for some kind of announcement.... but we will definitely keep it non-IVF specific, when and if the time comes.

wabash15 · October 2017

Lurker*** please come join the PAIF board! It was super active a few months ago but many of our most active ladies graduated. If you come it will get more active! @ReesaAnne16 i'm so happy for you! (and all the other ladies!)

tinjp78 · October 2017

@BusinessWife that onesie is so cute!

[Deleted User] · October 2017

Thank You! @tinjp78 I have the short sleeve version, and omg it is just too precious and too sweet, I started to cry and had to put it away. Hopefully soon it will be real and they will be happy tears ❤

helloworld9 · October 2017

@ReesaAnne16

I joined the May BMB and posted a little bit in there. It can be a bit overwhelming because there are so many people there. Are you going to tell your parents that you conceived through IVF?

@Hopeful_mom Yeah it's very complicated with my mom. All the time. I hate keeping IVF a secret from her, and the fact she has frozen grandbabies. It just sucks knowing that if she were to find out, she'd probably get very angry at me for "wasting my money" and getting "tricked by the evil doctor" or maybe just jumping the gun or whatever. I feel like I can never win. I agree that by the end of the day, it truly doesn't matter if you've used ART to have a baby. It really doesn't. But to her it's somewhat shameful almost.

@BusinessWife I love that onesie!! It captures everything so perfectly. And I can relate to that situation you're in. I'm definitely not telling my in laws about IVF, or that they also have frozen grandbabies. I don't think my husband wants to tell them either. I think it all goes back to the entire shame aspect of having to undergo ART for something that is so easy for so many people.

@wabash15

I made my first post in PAIF! It's not active but hopefully we can make it moreso.

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

ReesaAnne16 @helloworld9

I'm so excited for you this weekend!!! It exciting to keeping getting through each hurdle at a time. I was laughing reading about the BMB boards as I peaked at the June board with over 40 names and too many people on there 2,3, and 4th babies. It was too much already. I will hopefully take the plunge and post on the PAIF board soon. Right this nausea is kicking my ass!! It concerns me when it starts to make me feel sickly as well, dear lord!!!

i can't even do that much reading how I know it's at high peak right now!!! Come on 2nd trimester!!!!

i also wanted to say that my OH think my RE is an evil dr especially after my MC. I just wish your mom could understand as so many of us suffer and probably wouldn't get to this point without help, I thank g-d for it. It's still a business but glad we have it!!

Omg that's onesie @BusinessWife sooooo cute!!! Im said your DH doesn't want he's own parents to know. Why? It's nothing to be ashamed of especially when they made you. I know at times my mother feels responsible and that's why I didn't what her to know....but she wouldn't want to have it any other way! I feel bad I get it's a macho thing too! My OH doesn't want anyone to know anything

ReesaAnne16 · October 2017

@helloworld9 They aren't opposed to IVF, so I will tell them if they ask. I DON'T want people thinking it was just an "OH they finally relaxed/prayed enough/were patient enough ect and it happened!" I need people to know that it took IVF, so that other couples we know that might find themselves in the same situation aren't afraid to consider IVF. I'm thankful that the one couple we know IRL who have done IVF were open with us; we may not have considered it if we didn't hear their story, so I feel like it's better that we're open with as many people as possible.

DH's family, we're not sure how well they would take it, so we're avoiding discussing the details. FIL asked "Oh so what treatment did you do? Did you go on a vitamin or something?".... ummm yeah... little more complicated than that

funkykey · October 2017

I'm so excited for all these pregnancies!

@BusinessWife - that onesie is beautiful!

@ReesaAnne16 - those gift bottles are pretty cute!

@helloworld9 - Ugh. I want to be respectful - I don't know your mom at all, and I know relationships with parents are always complicated. She probably has some really great qualities too. But I am so, so sorry that that's her attitude - that must be very hard for you!

Honestly, when I told my dad we were doing IVF, the first thing he said was: "Honey, I am so proud of you." He said he was lucky he'd never had to do it, and that he thought our commitment and resolve was admirable, and that we were going to be excellent parents.

I mean, he has flaws too, but still. It made me cry, it was so kind.

I'm really sorry you have not had the same experience!

[Deleted User] · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom yeah, I can't say it's one thing for sure. I know he was never, "into it," and still sort of has issue wuth ART in general - the whole thing weirds him out - even tho it's what we ourselves had to do. I guess he's not proud of it. Like on principle. It's weird, if you ask me. I think we both had to learn and grow a lot to come to a place where we were willing to take the plunge.

So now he just says, it's nobody's business how - specifically - we conceived. Like what position, how many times a month you boned, how many cycles you tried, etc. You would never share details like that of your sex life with your parents, so why do they need to know about this? Is what he will say. Ughhh!

So while I do get the thing of wanting to just be "normal" and enjoy all the normal excitement of pregnancy, and not have it - or the child! - become "about" ivf, like it's not something everyone needs to just know about this kid before they can even comprehend such a fact of life for themselves... I think as much as our parents love us, they just want to support and encourage us. And I think they would probably be sad to find out down the road that we went through all this heartache and medical marathon to become parents and never even shared that with them.

So I think we will have to take it on a case by case basis, one moment at a time. Maybe just our actual parents, not the whole extended family has to know? (So that's my mom, plus his mom, and dad, and stepmom?) Tell them privately and ask for their discretion so we don't have to be asked to discuss it with a mixed group and let the cat out of the bag to the whole world, so to speak. (However I think it would be hard for my mom not to blab to her sister, since my cousin also used ivf, but they are lesbians, so I think that's a whole different animal than a hetero couple suffering from MFI. But how much I would want to be able to share that with my cousin at some point! Just think, to be in the same room at the holidays, have both gone through ivf, and not to have the other know just seems crazy to me!!!)

On his side, his sister already knows, and it's not like I want it to be a secret, but we don't want to have to have it come up every time we talk about the baby - or to have to just bite my tongue when people make casual/stupid comments about, "relaxing," "letting go and letting God," (I would say, more like, "letting go of our plans and expectations of how we would become parents, and letting God show us another path," might be more accurate!), or how great his swimmers must be etc etc people don't even realise how painful that stuff can be to someone who needed ART, or had MFI etc. So they might watch what they say a little more if they did know. Idk.

tnh0413 · October 2017

So excited for all these pregnancies! My beta is Friday. I POAS this AM and it was negative. I’m trying to stay hopeful for Friday though. I will definitely take another test Friday morning to prepare as I will be at work when I get the phone call.

I feel for those of you that can’t tell your families! It’s bad enough having to go through all this crap but even worse if someone is making you feel bad about it.

Weve been lucky in that we’ve told everybody and their mamas lol and everyone has been so supportive. That’s just us though and we’re super open about everything and I realize that is not for everyone. To me, I figured the more people knew, the more prayer warriors I could get praying for us! Both of my parents have passed away years ago so I’m very close with my MIL and she’s in love with her “frozen Eskimo grand babies” as she calls them LOL.

I definitely wanted people to know so I wouldn’t get those “relax” comments. So annoying, I remember right before starting IVF my cousins wife told me the reason why I haven’t gotten pregnant is because I’m “not eating enough dairy” and that I should, like her, drink a gallon of milk a day and eat cheese and that’s how SHE got pregnant.

ReesaAnne16 · October 2017

awwww frozen Eskimo grand babies, so cute!!

helloworld9 · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom I agree that fertility is a big business. Which is sad in some respect. But I was at the point where I would've regretted not trying. And I view it as money well spent. I am investing in my family and my future! That is more worthwhile than a fancy handbag or luxury car, anyday. Yes I agree with you about seeing people on their next kids. I have dreams about having more than one child so I will remain hopeful that this could happen to me.

@ReesaAnne16 I know what you mean. I'm expecting an onslaught of bingos. My mom has already bingo-ed me so much it's crazy. It's very minimizing of your struggles. And I agree that more people should be open pubicly about IVF. Especially celebrities. I'm still convinced Beyonce had IVF for her b/g twins. I really admire women like Chrissy Teigan (spelling?) for being so open about IVF.

@funkykey Yeah... my mom definitely has narcissistic personality disorder. I remember as a child she would go on screaming rages for hours on end if we disobeyed or wasn't good enough. Shit like that. Now that she is older and I've basically moved on with my life, she doesn't have much energy to "fight" anymore. And I've learned to just drop issues or completely not engage in anything so trivial that would cause her to become so enraged or angry. So it is hard that I have to now keep so many things in my life a secret from her, for fear of her judgment or negativity. It's kind of like being in the closet for something. I know gay people who struggle coming out to their parents. It's a struggle. I'm really glad you had a great experience with your dad. He sounds so understanding!

@BusinessWife I get your husband's point that your medical procedures and such aren't anyone's business. It's really tricky because he's half of the equation too, and then to top that off the MFI. That's so crazy about your cousin having done IVF and you keeping it a secret from her. I'm sure your family isn't the only one come Christmas where extended families come together and some people don't know about a fertility treatment or procedure. I know what you mean by people needing to be more careful of what they say to couples TTC. I know last year it was like a dagger whenever someone asks me when are we having kids. It sounds like such an innocent everyday question before I was TTC but I just wanted to cry when I hear that. I just wanted to say "we're trying" but it's not 100% socially acceptable to say you're struggling, you know?

@tnh0413 That's so awesome you had such great support. I really hope you have a high beta this Friday!

funkykey · October 2017

I was having some serious problems with TB today!

@BusinessWife - I can understand why your husband would want to keep it quiet. There are a lot of ignorant people out there, who make ignorant and insensitive comments. So I think it's natural and even normal to want to protect yourself, especially when you're actively living this nightmare, every day.

I feel really lucky because my immediate family isn't like that, but that doesn't mean I'm open about us having to do ART with everyone! Maybe when I'm through this and a little more removed from the ordeal, I will be more prepared to confront the ignorant people. In the meantime, I generally like to keep my private health struggles to myself.

@helloworld9 - sounds like a personality disorder! Ugh.
And I agree that more people should be open pubicly about IVF. Especially celebrities. I'm still convinced Beyonce had IVF for her b/g twins. I really admire women like Chrissy Teigan (spelling?) for being so open about IVF.

100% George and Amal Clooney used something. 100%. I saw in an interview he said they were "natural", and I was like: "LIAR." I mean, they're natural, of course - they're probably beautiful babies. But NO WAY were they conceived without ART.

And I view it as money well spent. I am investing in my family and my future! That is more worthwhile than a fancy handbag or luxury car, any day.

I totally agree. I have made a lot of choices that were more expensive than IVF. I'm not saying IVF is cheap - not at all - but when I actually look at and think about the things that I've spent money on, a family is far, far more important to me. We spent more money on our house so we could buy something in a nicer neighborhood - we could have bought something else, something $20K less expensive, that was in not-as-nice a hood, or needed more work.

At first, DH was like: "Man, IVF is so expensive. Can we afford it?" I would have sold our house and everything in it before I gave up on having a family, and I wouldn't have even blinked. That's not to say I don't think there should be more coverage/help. I've just had moments where I've been so thankful I was born during a time and in a place where IVF was an available technology to couples who are struggling to conceive.

helloworld9 · October 2017

@funkykey Oh yeah, Clooney totally did IVF, no question. Anytime I see b/g twins I realllllly put some scrutiny in there. And I agree about being lucky to have that technology now. Imagine how just fifty years ago if you struggled to conceive how heartbreaking it is to have no options available to you.

AFM (tw pregnancy)

I had my first OB appointment today. It was like a cattle call! So many pregnant women and screaming babies in the waiting room. Totally night and day from the RE's office. And I had my first ever abdominal ultrasound. The OB told me I didn't have to do the NT or NIPT tests, which I was like hm... okay then. She took a pap smear and urine sample. Then she's like see you in a month. I guess no more weekly check ups with the RE! Kind of sad because that's the only way I knew I was pregnant was having the RE check each week.

safire3 · October 2017

@funkykey you are so right. I try to remind myself how lucky I am to be living in a time where we can get help and to be able to afford it at all.

@helloworld9 I hope you get some reassuring symptoms soon and you can relax and enjoy the process. It's a good thing that you don't need frequent monitoring right now. Also sorry that your mom is not more supportive. This is the time when you need her to just be there and be happy for you.

@tnh0413 FX for you for Friday!

Oh and also Gabrielle Union also recently came out about her struggles with IF. She has yet to be successful unfortunately and *TW* has had multiple losses - I think she said 9 *end TW*. I feel so bad for her because her husband has multiple kids including a 3 yo from a woman he got KU when they were supposedly on a break.

funkykey · October 2017

@safire3 - I saw that about Gabrielle Union. I've always had a soft spot for her. Obviously, I don't know her personally, but years and years ago I went on an all-inclusive vacation and the only english movie playing on the tv was "Deliver Us From Eva". I was totally hooked. I've probably watched it 10 times, and she was the best part.

I feel bad for her too. She always seems so thoughtful, and I feel like, in many ways, she's had a hard life. IVF, getting raped at gunpoint... Ugh. I hope she has some success soon.

My H and I had a break before we got married, and if he'd KU-ed another woman, it would take a lot for me to move past that. Would have nothing to do with the child, and everything to do with trust issues and my H... And my H isn't even a professional basketball player! LOL!

tnh0413 · October 2017

So my RE called, beta is only 12. She said it seems like the embryo tried to implant then didn’t. She wants me to come back Monday morning to repeat. I’m most annoyed bc even though we know it’s a BFN, she still wants me to stay on the meds and PIO until then. I get it, but I’d much rather her said zero and been done with it.

Has as anyone had this happen before? I was all pumped about having a glass of wine tonight too.

funkykey · October 2017

@tnh0413 - I'm sorry about the beta. I have no experience with that situation though- when I have a BFN they're like: "enjoy your wine."

But maybe you will see an increase on Monday?

safire3 · October 2017

@tnh0413 so sorry about the beta. I know it really sucks. It hasn't happened to me but I have seen other ladies on the board go through this. I suppose there is a slim chance of late implantation so they want to see what direction it's going in before letting you stop the meds. Big hugs to you.

@funkykey you are so right that would be hard for me to get over as well and it would suck even more if I had to deal with IF on top of all that. I didn't even know about the other stuff. I think she wrote a book, I may buy it when I have some time to read.

helloworld9 · October 2017

@safire Like people say, you can't choose family. Such is life.

I am glad, however, that there is such strong support here! And I read about Gabrielle Union. How strong of her to come out like that. We need more women like her!

@funkykey I would feel the same way if I were in her shoes... I don't know how I would move past that. I had a cheating ex-bf once and the day I found out I dumped his ass so fast! Soooo tempted to burn his place down while I'm at it.

@tnh0413 I am holding out hope for you! I have read of stories where people had low first betas and then kept taking the meds until it became viable. It might happen. But I would also be prepared for it to go either way... It's so hard to deal with all the uncertainty.

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

funkykey said:

@safire3 - I saw that about Gabrielle Union. I've always had a soft spot for her. Obviously, I don't know her personally, but years and years ago I went on an all-inclusive vacation and the only english movie playing on the tv was "Deliver Us From Eva". I was totally hooked. I've probably watched it 10 times, and she was the best part.

I feel bad for her too. She always seems so thoughtful, and I feel like, in many ways, she's had a hard life. IVF, getting raped at gunpoint... Ugh. I hope she has some success soon.

@safire3 I've been trying to keep up with everyone but I'm so sick after reading I can't even comment! It's very interesting with Union, has anyone seen her show on BET Being Mary Jane. Came a cross it and then saw part of her storyline was struggling with infertility and she was single. Now there was a nutty story line to go with her ER and she used her BF at the time and Donor sperm on her eggs. So she ends up with 4 blasts, breaks up with bf and then is left with 2 donor sperm blasts. Now she gets a new bf for a while THEN they get into a fight and like 10 mins later she has an FET.

So I'm sure I'm not explaining this correctly but my point is it's great she's bringing the subject to the forefront but it was so poorly represented. Now originally I had no clue she went through all of this which then confuses me more. She knows how hard the process is but portrayed it as if it was snap crackle and pop! We all k ow how much monitoring and ups and downs are in this process it bothered me they really didn't show any of it. Yes I know it's TV, however on other shows that are in hospitals or deal with law enforcement they have tons of consultants to make sure they're getting it sort of right.

im a fan and feel terrible she is struggling!! It's interesting she originally never wanted children and it's being with her husband and kids that made them start trying at 40 or 42.

i haven't heard of she's still trying or not.

@dragonette505 how are u? I'm too sick to catch up on ur other boards. It hoojng ur moving forward!

Hopeful_mom · October 2017

@tnh0413 sorry for the low beta but u never know if it doubles u can be in it!! How many dpt are u?

tinjp78 · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom I'll just say it quick and fast so you won't need to read more... Grow baby grow!!! I'm cheering for you!

funkykey · October 2017

helloworld9 said:
@funkykey I would feel the same way if I were in her shoes... I don't know how I would move past that. I had a cheating ex-bf once and the day I found out I dumped his ass so fast! Soooo tempted to burn his place down while I'm at it.

I'm 100% with you on this. BURN IT DOWN!

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But, you know, I'd describe myself as being a little, err, on the fiery side. Especially in matters of the heart. LOL.

helloworld9 · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom As much as I enjoy reading your updates if the computer is making you ill then I don't blame you! When is your next check up?

@funkykey OMG that is the perfect gif! When I confronted him and he didn't say a word (yup... guilty) I was holding a glass of water and threw that water straight into his face! I was so tempted to chuck that glass right at him too. Anyway that was YEARS ago when I was in college so I was definitely way more naive and "act before I think".

funkykey · October 2017

@helloworld9 - I'm so much more fiery now than I was in college! But, then again, in college I was way, way more likely to date a dud. I had so many crushes on guys who, in hindsight, were total losers. And when they didn't like me back, I was devastated... My my, how times have changed! :-P

So I guess I was way more naive too - like, I'd let those guys in. But I also stood up for myself less.
Good for you for throwing a glass of water at that a-hole!!!!!!!

DH and I were joking last night, about marriage. I think because the stakes are so high - building a life together, having children together, raising a family together - little things that you'd never bother to talk about with a fling will turn into confrontations, like: "Wait a second - is this how you want to live your life?!" Maybe that's why I'm more fiery now? The stakes are higher?

Anyway, this always makes us laugh:

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funkykey · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom - hoping all that nausea is from baby bean getting stronger and stronger and stronger! FX!!!

I've never seen Being Mary Jane, so I can't speak to the, err, plausibility of the dialogue or production quality. But I guess she was going through something similar in her personal life at the same time... She has a new book out so she's been talking about her IF - I think she's still trying.

tnh0413 · October 2017

@Hopeful_mom I was 9dp5dt. The PIO shot this AM hurt the most it’s ever hurt knowing it’s for essentially nothing. I’m ready to be done with this and start a new transfer ASAP. My RE told me Friday that we can plan for it around the holidays and stuff because DH and I will be out of town so much. We’re hoping for mid-December for our other frosty.

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