My WTF - A coworker who is technically on point but honestly a poor employee got into a discussion with our manager while I was in the room. I tuned them out. Later, said coworker got pissy with me, saying 'You're going to have to pick a side.' I'm not afraid of picking a side or disagreement, but I won't pick a side in some bullshit that doesn't affect me/I don't care about, and is a speck of dust in the grand scheme of things. I was hopeful that working 20 hours a week would let me miss drama like this, but apparently not. Now I see why others don't like this coworker.
My wtf is the damn school bus today! It was 45 minutes late dropping my kids off today which meant that my daughter had to miss her first dance practice of the year! And the reason it was so late is that it had to turn around to pick up some highschool kids that missed the bus! And then when the bus got back to the school they weren't even there!! So it was all for nothing! Last time I checked, if you miss the bus you find a different ride home. Learn some responsibility. It's not everyone else's problem. I felt extra bad about it because I completely forgot about my youngest daughters dance practice on Monday so both of them missed out this week. It I would have been notified earlier I would have had time to go get them from school. Super pissed about it.
I announced to my bosses on Monday and the news is trickling out to the rest of the office now. I felt like I had to announce (earlier than I would have liked) because it was getting harder and harder to hide the blump and I didn't want to strain relationships by making coworkes feel like I was keeping a secret from them. Since people have started finding out, three of them have told me they've "known for awhile". Dude, I've barely known for "awhile". Couldn't they at least pretend to be surprised?
Right?! I told my mom a few days ago and she says "yeah I thought so, you've been really moody lately." uh... Thanks??
@irenejean I plan to ask my doctor about it and as long as she's ok with it, I'll get one too. I just might now wait a couple weeks until I'm done with first tri. In terms of risk/reward, a small additional wait makes sense to me even though I agree it's very unlikely the flu shot will actually cause any negative effect.
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This study is a major WTF. I am in no way anti-vaccines - all my children are fully vaccinated as am I - but I guess I may wait until after first tri to get a flu shot:
They were going to give me the flu shot when I went in on Monday, but my OB said they don't give it until after the 2nd trimester. So I think you're fine.
This study is a major WTF. I am in no way anti-vaccines - all my children are fully vaccinated as am I - but I guess I may wait until after first tri to get a flu shot:
For full information, I'm a scientist who has worked on vaccine development including projects that have been shut down because of the smallest safety concerns.
A few few points about this study -
1) it was rejected from two journals because of poor methods before being published. The editor who published it commented that he did so because he wanted to emphasize the intense and constant scrutiny vaccines go through even when on the market.
2) the conclusion is based on mathematical calculations. Because women who are older, with more comirbidities (diabetes etc.) are both more likely to miscarry and more likely to get back to back flu shots, they groups can't be directly compared. Please don't look at the raw numbers - they only show that older women who have more health issues have a higher risk of miscarriage. The researchers attempted to mathematically adjust for this increased risk and saw some effect from back to back flu shots but admit in the paper that their calculations may be wrong.
3) The study did not see any increase in miscarriage if women got a single flu shot (yes, they looked). It was only women who got back to back annual shots, including the swine flu vaccine. For many of you who did not get a flu shot last year, this study does not apply to you at all.
To be honest, I believe that to publish this study was irresponsible and to report it with inaccurate and inflammatory headlines is even worse. Pregnant women have enough to worry about without having another nuanced piece of data to figure out. I can't stress enough how safe vaccines are these days. Due to the incredible public scrutiny and social impact of studies like this, no company will bring anything to market that has any question on the safety front. Although that doesn't mean that pseudo science won't try to find any excuse to discredit them anyway.
@easilydistracted87 thank you. I can't tell you how upset I am that people nowadays are sacrificing good solid scientific method in an effort to publish clickbait studies.
Just last year in my local Mom FB group a woman posted a study about how cesarian sections make babies more prone to lukemia, and I had a throw down with the person who posted it, because A) wildly inaccurate study, and B.) Extremely insensitive and cruel bid for attention.
@easilydistracted87 thank you. I can't tell you how upset I am that people nowadays are sacrificing good solid scientific method in an effort to publish clickbait studies.
Just last year in my local Mom FB group a woman posted a study about how cesarian sections make babies more prone to lukemia, and I had a throw down with the person who posted it, because A) wildly inaccurate study, and B.) Extremely insensitive and cruel bid for attention.
@ngolimento I did not post this to suggest that anyone forego a flu shot because of it; that does not seem to me a reasonable reaction to one group's (apparently questionable) data. My only thought was that it makes sense at least to me to wait until after first tri to get it, which apparently according to @sjn00 is a practice at least some places anyway.
I certainly was not sharing to fear-monger and knew I would very likely receive an overwhelmingly negative reaction from the TB. But to me, it's information, and as a critical consumer of information and a pregnant woman, it's information I would want to have.
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@easilydistracted87 thank you. I can't tell you how upset I am that people nowadays are sacrificing good solid scientific method in an effort to publish clickbait studies.
Just last year in my local Mom FB group a woman posted a study about how cesarian sections make babies more prone to lukemia, and I had a throw down with the person who posted it, because A) wildly inaccurate study, and B.) Extremely insensitive and cruel bid for attention.
@ngolimento I did not post this to suggest that anyone forego a flu shot because of it; that does not seem to me a reasonable reaction to one group's (apparently questionable) data. My only thought was that it makes sense at least to me to wait until after first tri to get it, which apparently according to @sjn00 is a practice at least some places anyway.
I certainly was not sharing to fear-monger and knew I would very likely receive an overwhelmingly negative reaction from the TB. But to me, it's information, and as a critical consumer of information and a pregnant woman, it's information I would want to have.
My OB has her patients wait to get it until second tri as well. And I am so thrilled @easilydistracted87 that you are in our April Beth club. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on vaccines (I am pro vaccine), but enjoy learning extra tidbits when I can.
@lindsye I totally understand your motive for sharing. The thrust of my post was directed towards the prevalent lack of ethics and acumen of modern practice of "publishing" studies. I would 100% agree with you that it is critical to share information of this nature IF it was accurate information and well done. This study is neither. And for every person who makes a well-informed decision to just delay a vaccination until second tri, 5 will decide the flu vaccine is dangerous to their baby, and endanger their child by not getting it. Fevers during pregnancy are no joke, and the flu is known for them.
Now, mind you, I do not disagree with the idea of delaying until second tri, because I am doing that myself. I have the luxury of doing so because flu season won't hit until well into second tri. I am just saying that you should not make that decision based on faulty data that was published for clickbait attention. Before you make any medical decision based on a study you see on the internet, research that study and look at peer reviews. Also, consult with your doctor.
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I felt extra bad about it because I completely forgot about my youngest daughters dance practice on Monday so both of them missed out this week.
It I would have been notified earlier I would have had time to go get them from school. Super pissed about it.
A few few points about this study -
1) it was rejected from two journals because of poor methods before being published. The editor who published it commented that he did so because he wanted to emphasize the intense and constant scrutiny vaccines go through even when on the market.
2) the conclusion is based on mathematical calculations. Because women who are older, with more comirbidities (diabetes etc.) are both more likely to miscarry and more likely to get back to back flu shots, they groups can't be directly compared. Please don't look at the raw numbers - they only show that older women who have more health issues have a higher risk of miscarriage. The researchers attempted to mathematically adjust for this increased risk and saw some effect from back to back flu shots but admit in the paper that their calculations may be wrong.
3) The study did not see any increase in miscarriage if women got a single flu shot (yes, they looked). It was only women who got back to back annual shots, including the swine flu vaccine. For many of you who did not get a flu shot last year, this study does not apply to you at all.
To be honest, I believe that to publish this study was irresponsible and to report it with inaccurate and inflammatory headlines is even worse. Pregnant women have enough to worry about without having another nuanced piece of data to figure out. I can't stress enough how safe vaccines are these days. Due to the incredible public scrutiny and social impact of studies like this, no company will bring anything to market that has any question on the safety front. Although that doesn't mean that pseudo science won't try to find any excuse to discredit them anyway.
Just last year in my local Mom FB group a woman posted a study about how cesarian sections make babies more prone to lukemia, and I had a throw down with the person who posted it, because A) wildly inaccurate study, and B.) Extremely insensitive and cruel bid for attention.
I certainly was not sharing to fear-monger and knew I would very likely receive an overwhelmingly negative reaction from the TB. But to me, it's information, and as a critical consumer of information and a pregnant woman, it's information I would want to have.
Now, mind you, I do not disagree with the idea of delaying until second tri, because I am doing that myself. I have the luxury of doing so because flu season won't hit until well into second tri. I am just saying that you should not make that decision based on faulty data that was published for clickbait attention. Before you make any medical decision based on a study you see on the internet, research that study and look at peer reviews. Also, consult with your doctor.