UO Thursday 8/31

whatabout2ndbreakfast · August 2017

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whatabout2ndbreakfast · August 2017

I really can't stand the Big Bang Theory. I think it's terrible, and it's one of my ILs favorites

ngolimento · August 2017

Given the season, my UO is that I hate football. We don't have cable TV this year and I am SO happy about it. It wouldn't be so bad if the games weren't so dang long. But they are like 4 hours, and that is 4 hours of my DH sitting on his ass on a weekend and doing nothing. No chores, no home maintenance, no family outings, nothing educational for our kid. Nadda. We both work, so taking a 4 hours chunk out of our weekend is a big negative impact on me.

sparklingdiamond · August 2017

I can't get into Game of Thrones. I watched like half of the first season and I had no idea what was going on and just didn't think it was that good.

sapphires-and-diamonds · August 2017

ngolimento said:

Given the season, my UO is that I hate football. We don't have cable TV this year and I am SO happy about it. It wouldn't be so bad if the games weren't so dang long. But they are like 4 hours, and that is 4 hours of my DH sitting on his ass on a weekend and doing nothing. No chores, no home maintenance, no family outings, nothing educational for our kid. Nadda. We both work, so taking a 4 hours chunk out of our weekend is a big negative impact on me.

Girl, yes. I used to actually LOVE football. Over the past few years though I have started dreading it because H is in like 6 fantasy football leagues, so this is his life. He has to watch every stupid game because one of his players is playing, and he has to check his stats, and each league does this or that, blah blah blah. I just want to watch my team, one game a week.

danjoly · August 2017

UO I couldn't care less about everything autumn related. I like my pumpkin spice like any other basic girl

but I don't get the "I need to run to Starbucks and take a selfie with my cup" hype. You know, pumpkin spice stuff can be bought year round now

whatabout2ndbreakfast · August 2017

sparklingdiamond said:

I can't get into Game of Thrones. I watched like half of the first season and I had no idea what was going on and just didn't think it was that good.

For me I really didn't get into it until I read the books and could actually follow who all the characters were. It's very overwhelming with all the different names and houses

ekendall09 · August 2017

sapphires-and-diamonds said:

ngolimento said:

Given the season, my UO is that I hate football. We don't have cable TV this year and I am SO happy about it. It wouldn't be so bad if the games weren't so dang long. But they are like 4 hours, and that is 4 hours of my DH sitting on his ass on a weekend and doing nothing. No chores, no home maintenance, no family outings, nothing educational for our kid. Nadda. We both work, so taking a 4 hours chunk out of our weekend is a big negative impact on me.

Girl, yes. I used to actually LOVE football. Over the past few years though I have started dreading it because H is in like 6 fantasy football leagues, so this is his life. He has to watch every stupid game because one of his players is playing, and he has to check his stats, and each league does this or that, blah blah blah. I just want to watch my team, one game a week.

I totally get why this is an UO. I admit I love football and fantasy but SO dreadssss football season and everything that it entails. I've tried to be more respectful and understanding and generally limit how much I put on. I also have learned that I don't have to watch every game and it'll be ok! He would 100% agree with you girls!

ngolimento · August 2017

sparklingdiamond said:

I can't get into Game of Thrones. I watched like half of the first season and I had no idea what was going on and just didn't think it was that good.

That's because the first season is crap

. The writers assumed their audience was a pile of drooling neanderthals and just threw boobs around like confetti. Once they realized people with brajns we're watching, it got SO much better.

maureenmce · August 2017

ngolimento said:

Given the season, my UO is that I hate football. We don't have cable TV this year and I am SO happy about it. It wouldn't be so bad if the games weren't so dang long. But they are like 4 hours, and that is 4 hours of my DH sitting on his ass on a weekend and doing nothing. No chores, no home maintenance, no family outings, nothing educational for our kid. Nadda. We both work, so taking a 4 hours chunk out of our weekend is a big negative impact on me.

Yes! My ex was football obsessed to the point that we watched football all day Saturday (college) AND Sunday (NFL.) So literally every weekend of the fall (my favorite season) was lost to sitting on the couch drinking beer. It's not the only reason we broke up at all, but it was a factor for sure! I think I asked DH on the first date if he liked football and was SO thrilled when he said no. Football can be fun but definitely can have a negative impact as well.

As for me, my UO of the day is that I prefer toddlers to babies x10000000. Yes, toddlers are crazy and exhausting, but they're so much more communicative, funny, interesting, and imo, cuter than babies too!

riversdoctor · August 2017

https://youtu.be/2fraSdN-PG8

I'm with ya on the football. I enjoy my team but I was never happier than when we cut cable and espn wasn't front and center 24/7!

We we have a few local channels now but I prefer to listen to the games on the radio (and actually get stuff done) vs parking in front of the tv. One thing I'm totally excited for is making chili. It's our game day ritual and I miss it!

jenotontx · August 2017

ngolimento said:

Given the season, my UO is that I hate football. We don't have cable TV this year and I am SO happy about it. It wouldn't be so bad if the games weren't so dang long. But they are like 4 hours, and that is 4 hours of my DH sitting on his ass on a weekend and doing nothing. No chores, no home maintenance, no family outings, nothing educational for our kid. Nadda. We both work, so taking a 4 hours chunk out of our weekend is a big negative impact on me.

I don't mind occasionally watching a game and I am a lot more invested in college football them the NFL but my H was on a fantasy team last year which meant we had to watch ALL the games ALL the time. I actually just found out he kind of got kicked off the fantasy team he was on last year and I'm secretly really happy about it!

saisongbird · August 2017

Pumpkin spice anything is just gross

sparklingdiamond · August 2017

Ok so I should try to keep watching because it gets better?

jenotontx · August 2017

sparklingdiamond said:

Ok so I should try to keep watching because it gets better?

It took me awhile to get into it and I'm still confused some of the time but it does get better. I would try to give it some more time!

ngolimento · August 2017

Well, I totally failed to make an Unpopular statement

petethecat · August 2017

@maureenmce I totally agree with you on toddlers vs babies! The newborn days were rrrrroooouuugggghhhh. DD is so fun and engaging now! Sure, she wears me out but, overall, I feel like being a toddler mom is way more fulfilling.

@sparklingdiamond Yes! I definitely think that you should give it more time. I would agree that it gets better after the first season. Also, for me, the language took a while to get used to. So, it was hard for me to follow along with everything right at first. The story does get really interesting though!

irenejean · August 2017

Not sure if this will be unpopular or not, but I don't like the newborn stage of parenting.

ETA: I missed that this was discussed already. Glad I'm not the only one!

ngolimento · August 2017

Newborns are scary, imo. I mean, putting them down at the wrong angle can kill them. Not to mention that they can't tell you what is wrong when they are sick. Is it a burp, or is it an emergency, who knows!? That is way more pressure than I want to deal with long term.

I do have to admit that I miss breastfeeding a newborn. That is some high quality cuddling, ya'll.

lindsye · August 2017

@sparklingdiamond I couldn't get into it until half the contenders for the throne were gone. Too many characters and too complicated for my liking - my idea of ideal TV viewing is being able to look down to bump or Facebook or whatever, and in the earlier seasons it was nearly impossible to keep up with who all the characters are unless you were like glued to the TV. Now, there are much fewer characters and storylines and I like it a lot more. Still not my absolute fave because it is SO gory and in many ways dark, but I watch with DH.

petethecat · August 2017

ngolimento said:

*snip*
I do have to admit that I miss breastfeeding a newborn. That is some high quality cuddling, ya'll.

Totally agree

lund · August 2017

kraft singles (or the generic equivalents) aren't cheese. I LOVE cheese, and that is definitely not cheese.

courtyowl427 · August 2017

@maureenmce I totally agree. I found the newborn phase and being on maternity leave a very isolating experience. DH was at work all day and I was home alone with a screaming infant that needed me for everything. I enjoy the toddler stage so much. Of course I loved my newborn but I was one of those moms that did not feel an intense bond right away and I struggled. Hoping its better this time around, as I know what to expect and will ask for more support.

My UO: I hated every second of breastfeeding and really want to skip it all together this time. I know science says its best for baby, but it was so hard for me last time. It brought on a lot of anxiety, self loating, and resentment for me.

irenejean · August 2017

@courtyowl427 I didn't enjoy breastfeeding either, we stopped after two weeks when I got mastitits. I'm thinking I'll try again, we'll see.

ngolimento · August 2017

@courtyowl427 I think you would be surprised at how many women agree with you. Breastfeeding is hard to start, and involves a ton of personal space violation. Not to mention it involves organs that are used during sex. It's hard to get past, especially for people who have survived assault.

There is absolutely no reason to have guilt about it, you are a good mother who made sure your baby was fed. Be proud of yourself!

jenotontx · August 2017

@courtyowl427 I think it's just as important for baby to have a mom that feels mentally healthy. If it is or was that taxing on you then there is nothing wrong with doing what you know works best for you.

maureenmce · August 2017

@courtyowl427 I feel you so much! I had a medical issue that made breastfeeding nearly impossible and no one knew what was going on fully until nearly the end of the newborn phase so I was just adrift and stressed and completely not sleeping for months trying to make it work. I have serious anxiety and pain related to the newborn phase that I have kind of blocked out of my mind and I'm hoping this time around a.) will go smoother because I know what to expect (including my medical condition, which is almost certain to recur) and b.) because I will not put so much pressure on myself to be perfect. AND c.) because I know from experience now that a child can be completely healthy, happy and smart on a mostly formula or all formula diet, so I'm not going to feel this ZOMG BREASTFEED OR RUIN YOUR PRECIOUS BABY pressure, which I, legitimately felt last time like a weight on my chest. Not this time! I hope with all my heart you don't feel any anxiety or self loathing either this time either.

riversdoctor · August 2017

My take on the bf/ff debate is do what you want. BUT I will adamantly oppose medical professionals who spew misinformation (on both sides of the coin and in many cases set mom up to fail and then feel like a failure because of them!

To me breastfeeding was was on par with diaper changes. Nothing Lovey dovey or magical about it, just a letter thing to do. My main driving factor is 1.) it's free 2.) it's portable, less for me to remember when leaving the house and 3.) once we eliminated lip ties it was painless and efficient. That said I know if my daughter had a bad latch line my sons for my first experience I would have given up instantly! No shame but every mama needs support!

maureenmce · August 2017

riversdoctor said:

My take on the bf/ff debate is do what you want. BUT I will adamantly oppose medical professionals who spew misinformation

I literally went to a breastfeeding class run by a hospital that said breastfeeding worked the same as birth control (UM, NOPE), I was told by a lactation consultant that it was "impossible" that I was unable to breastfeed (turns out it's very possible!), and met a breastfeeding advocate who said children who breastfeed don't need tummy time (uh...what??)

So yeah, I'm a fan of facts, not misinformation on either side! I heard plenty of incorrect things spouted by people who surely should have known better.

Edited to add: not a medical professional, but I will never forget when the receptionist at my dentist's office told me that I needed to put breastmilk in my newborn daughter's eyes to keep them blue. Omg, the side eye I had to hold back! That's not how it works, lady!

ngolimento · August 2017

maureenmce said:

riversdoctor said:

My take on the bf/ff debate is do what you want. BUT I will adamantly oppose medical professionals who spew misinformation

I literally went to a breastfeeding class run by a hospital that said breastfeeding worked the same as birth control (UM, NOPE), I was told by a lactation consultant that it was "impossible" that I was unable to breastfeed (turns out it's very possible!), and met a breastfeeding advocate who said children who breastfeed don't need tummy time (uh...what??)

So yeah, I'm a fan of facts, not misinformation on either side! I heard plenty of incorrect things spouted by people who surely should have known better.

Holy guacamole, I don't even know what to say to that steaming pile of info they gave you! I ran into a lot of "professional" who didn't know anything either.

I eventually did run into a lactation consultant who was extremely knowledgeable, and helpful. Most of them thought I wanted a professional handholder. Nope, I need to know why my kid nurses every 15 minutes then screams the rest of the time. Once I got nipple guards from her to wear while I wasn't nursing and therefore let my cracked nips heal, life was much better, and it allowed me to focus on curing my daughter's colic.

Dumbgurl04 · August 2017

@courtyowl427 trying looking into the Fearless Formula Feeder blog. It has a lot a great information that proves that Formula feeding is a perfectly great substitute for breast milk. I was completely freaked out about trying to breast feed thankfully my dr told me not to even bother stressing myself out with it and just formula feed because it's perfectly acceptable. I'm very much push to fed your child with whatever method works best for you and your child. So don't let the guilt get to you just always remember you will never be able to walk into a school and point out what kids where breast fed and what ones are formula fed

@ngolimento I'm here to disagree with your UO I LOVE FOOTBALL season. I'm in fantasy leagues, Saturday and Sunday usually we have football on all day long. Now I'm not "I have to watch every game" as long as I watch my Colts I could care less who is playing because I can track what my fantasy players are doing on the app. Plus there are times while games are going I'm doing something else and the game is just background noise. The fall and football is my favorite time of the year.

orangecup · August 2017

Are we really going to talk about BF vs FF in UO every week? It's killing me.

lindsye · August 2017

riversdoctor said:

My take on the bf/ff debate is do what you want. BUT I will adamantly oppose medical professionals who spew misinformation (on both sides of the coin and in many cases set mom up to fail and then feel like a failure because of them!

To me breastfeeding was was on par with diaper changes. Nothing Lovey dovey or magical about it, just a letter thing to do. My main driving factor is 1.) it's free 2.) it's portable, less for me to remember when leaving the house and 3.) once we eliminated lip ties it was painless and efficient. That said I know if my daughter had a bad latch line my sons for my first experience I would have given up instantly! No shame but every mama needs support!

This. I am one of the "lucky" ones for whom breastfeeding is easy - all my babies have taken to it quickly and easily and my body does it easily. I have breastfed all 3 of mine for 15 months+ (because they don't want to stop; not because I don't want to) and I have never had mastitis. It's all I know but I would have no problem with FF if it didn't work for me or baby with the next one.

courtyowl427 · August 2017

@Dumbgurl04, @maureenmce , @JJMNO1616 @ngolimento and @irenejean Thanks for the support and encouraging words! I will check of the Fearless Formula Feeder blog too!

I guess my reason for stating it as an UO is because like many FTM's I was certain I would have a loving, amazing, year long bf journey with my LO. I wanted it, I really did. I did my research, took the class, bought an expensive pump, and it just didn't work for us. As a STM I am fully prepared to try again and see it it works. I will not feel guilty if I last one hour, one day, or one year. My LO will be fed! I got this!

maureenmce · August 2017

orangecup said:

Are we really going to talk about BF vs FF in UO every week? It's killing me.

Definitely don't think it'll be every week. Some people have only been posting on this board for a couple weeks! It'll die down. I do think it's an important and emotional hot button topic for lots of moms and lots of women struggle and have painful associations with this issue, so it seems good for people to talk it out and for those who've struggled to realize they're not alone. It'll pass soon I think though!

Anyhoo, non BF/FF UO - I do not understand the concept of glamping. The whole fun or camping is getting dirty and pitching a tent, making a camp fire, enjoying a taste of the wild! It seems like only getting half the experience!

jenotontx · August 2017

@maureenmce Glamping for me still includes a tent but I need an air mattress. There's no way I'm sleeping in a bag on the hard ass ground these days. I also need a real restroom somewhere close by. There isn't going to be any pooping in the woods for this girl.

maureenmce · August 2017

@JJMNO1616 Oh, I don't think of an air mattress and bathroom nearby as super glampy. I was thinking more like this fully luxury camping people do:

https://www.glamping.com/what-is-glamping/

(Confession: now that I'm looking through this it...does seem kind of cool. Expensive! But okay, yes, kind of cool.)

ngolimento · August 2017

JJMNO1616 said:

@maureenmce Glamping for me still includes a tent but I need an air mattress. There's no way I'm sleeping in a bag on the hard ass ground these days. I also need a real restroom somewhere close by. There isn't going to be any pooping in the woods for this girl.

Amen, my ass is too old to sleep on the ground. I need an air mattress, a real bathroom, a shower, and a camping stove to be happy. Not gonna lie though, campfire meals are the bomb.

ekendall09 · August 2017

maureenmce said:

@JJMNO1616 Oh, I don't think of an air mattress and bathroom nearby as super glampy. I was thinking more like this fully luxury camping people do:

https://www.glamping.com/what-is-glamping/

(Confession: now that I'm looking through this it...does seem kind of cool. Expensive! But okay, yes, kind of cool.)

we were given a camper from family friends this year (its crazy nice and I still can't figure out why they didn't just sell it but I digress). We used it for the first time last week. I've always been a tent camper but boy was there something nice about crawling into a real bed after being outdoors all day and having a little heater turn on when it got below a certain temp. We really only used it for sleeping and the bathroom. I totally see the appeal but still love camping out the tent way!

jenotontx · August 2017

maureenmce said:

@JJMNO1616 Oh, I don't think of an air mattress and bathroom nearby as super glampy. I was thinking more like this fully luxury camping people do:

https://www.glamping.com/what-is-glamping/

(Confession: now that I'm looking through this it...does seem kind of cool. Expensive! But okay, yes, kind of cool.)

omg that's not even camping at all!

maureenmce · August 2017

JJMNO1616 said:

maureenmce said:

@JJMNO1616 Oh, I don't think of an air mattress and bathroom nearby as super glampy. I was thinking more like this fully luxury camping people do:

https://www.glamping.com/what-is-glamping/

(Confession: now that I'm looking through this it...does seem kind of cool. Expensive! But okay, yes, kind of cool.)

omg that's not even camping at all!

That's what I'm saying! Like, air mattress, sure! And there are plenty of campsites with bathrooms and showers in national parks, etc., but the glamping stuff lately has gotten so crazy it's like not actually camping! I have a friend who does it and it's basically like a hotel stay with a view. (Though again, admittedly, it looks cool. Haha.)

To be clear, I'm not a rugged backcountry backpacker by any means, but I do think there's something so refreshing about being in the dirt and the grit for a weekend. It's probably cause I grew up in suburbs where there was no nature of any kind just strip malls, lol.

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