Game of Thrones S7/ep7 -- Spoilers, obviously

zamoraspin · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode?

Fav moment?

Least fav moment?

Who won the week?

Who lost the week?

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon?

How would you rate the season?

What was your least fav thing about the season?

Predictions for next season?

Questions?

kiwi2628 · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? 9

Fav moment? Arya killing Littlefinger! Also, 'Maybe it is all about cocks'

Least fav moment? I dunno....

Who won the week? Dany

Who lost the week? Cercei

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? 6

How would you rate the season? 7

What was your least fav thing about the season? How sooooo much of it was pointless build-up, and then they sped up some parts so fast. Like, can we even it out a bit?

Predictions for next season? Let me think...

Questions?

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? 5? Like, for real? This is how this season ended?

Fav moment? I don't know, Jon and Dany banging? Jons got a nice butt. Here's the thing, there were a lot of cool moments (littlefinger finally dying, zombie dragon melting the wall, Jon and Dany banging, jons parentage confirmed explicitly) but the way they were set up was handled so cheaply that I think it ruined the pay off.

Least fav moment? Anything related to Euron or Theon. Why were EITHER of them at the truce meeting?

Who won the week? Night king

Who lost the week? All the humans

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? Not at all, except there's a part of me that will be really pissed if his death isn't epic because like why the eff is he still around then?

How would you rate the season? 4. The low points just don't bring it back up. The writers clearly had a few end goals in mind and worked backward from there and it showed. I do think next season will be good again but they nearly ruined this franchise this season.

What was your least fav thing about the season? The Westeros express. The rushing through everything..... just to have the slowest finale of all time? Why.

Predictions for next season? I mean, if we don't get clegane bowl at some point I'm going to freak out. I guess Jon and Dany will have a kid together.

Questions?
where did bronn and pod go?
where was gendry?
How did cersei and Euron know there'd be a wight for Euron to "flip out" about so he could go to Essos? Why not just GO TO ESSOS INSTEAD???
Really? Jon Burn-the-bodies Snow didn't even consider a zombie dragon?
Why did Sam need to steal Gilly's thunder?
Jaime is just riding north by himself?
Honestly why did Brienne need to go to kings landing? Is she still there? Where is pod?
really? Rhaegar named his first and third son the same name? Really? Ok sure.

spottedginger · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 my take was that Brienne needed to be away so that she didn't spoil the Sansa/Arya plot by trying to save Arya.

zamoraspin · August 2017

How would you rate this episode? I will begrudgingly give it a 6. There were things I loved but also things I felt we spent way too much time on.

Fav moment? Littlefinger's face when he realized what was happening.

Least fav moment? All the Theon parts. Close second is the dragon shooting electricity or fire or whatever out of its mouth - it is dead, it does not breath, how is that happening?

Who won the week?Jon Snow and the Night King both made strong showings.

Who lost the week? Littlefinger

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? 1. I am so mad that we spent 10 minutes of the final episode dealing with Theon. I do not care.

How would you rate the season? 4. Least favorite season.

What was your least fav thing about the season? The writing was a mess for me, the pacing was a mess for me. Overall it felt like an entirely different show and, even though a little fan service is cool, there was way too much fan service. It's not like I want important characters to die but having important characters die is a GoT tradition and this season the most important character death was a dragon, which in and of itself felt pretty contrived. I was waiting for Littlefinger to die for the entire season but ultimately he was not actually important to the story anymore. He went from moving major pieces around the board to trying to control Sansa who, while important, is not the most important piece.

Predictions for next season? Well Jon is going to ride a dragon, we all know that. I confess I stole this from the Ringer but what if the army of the dead heads directly to King's Landing, since that is the most concentrated source of population? That would be interesting, we've seen what looked like either snow or ash falling in the throne room in a couple visions.

Questions? Is there any chance that Cersei's baby is Euron's? I didn't think so before but they are more chummy than I suspected.

zamoraspin · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 Yes, yes, yes, yes to everything you said. It was a really frustrating season capped with a really frustrating season finale. Thinking about last season, we had that AMAZING episode where Cersei dragon fired the Scept, the pacing, detail, and storytelling in that episode was so good. How did we get from there to and "yadda yadda, zombie dragon." I also said the same thing about Jaime. I guess he can tell everyone Cersei's plans but other than that he's a one-armed dude who is mediocre at fighting anymore, I'm not sure he's going to be much help. I guess he's better at tactics than Tyrion?

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zamora_spin honestly it's the absence of GRRM. The writers are flying blind, only having very major future plot points to get us to. They were good at adapting rich source material but they're bad at filling in the blanks on their own. I completely agree about the pacing re: littlefingers death. It took too long. Who cares that he died? He was irrelevant at that point.

@spottedginger I guess so but that was a dumb plot point from the get go in sooooo many ways.

zamoraspin · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 You are totally right. The writers are apparently bad at creating actual content.

Also - there is a theory that Bran is the Night King - how exactly, idk, but it's clear that when Bran travels through time he is not merely seeing the events going on. Part of the fan theory comes from the fact that the Night King was re-cast and looks more like Bran, and part of it comes from the fact that the Night King was a man but he was turned and no one knows his identity. I have always thought this is bunk, although I can believe the Night King is a Stark.

However, Bran let Jon know the Night King was close to Eastwatch which allowed Jon and crew to easily find the army north of the wall. That caused Dany to fly north with her dragons, which then caused the death of one dragon. The dragon was the one thing that was needed to bring down the wall, apparently. I am not saying for sure Bran = Night King but I am more curious about this theory than I was before because it seems to me Bran set in motion the ability of the Night King to cross the Wall, and he of all people should have been able to warn everyone what NOT to do.

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leilee101 · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? I give it a 9! I think it was great. I'm over complaining that everything is moving too fast.

Fav moment? Basically every single character that we have been following on their own separate paths for YEARS all finally came together in one episode. I think that was my fav part overall. But favorite actual scene: Little finger getting his throat sliced the F open!

Least fav moment? Bran's timing. How awkward is that conversation going to be ..

Who won the week? Dany. Not only did she get her truce, she also got the D

Who lost the week? Littlefinger mwahahaha

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? He's a 0. I'm SHOCKED that he's still alive in this world. Why is he still a relevant character? Why was he even invited to the truce meeting? He sucks.

How would you rate the season? I did definitely like the season but it was too fast and too short. AND it took like forever to get here so I feel like it should have been longer?

What was your least fav thing about the season? The predictability. One thing I have loved about the show is that most seasons have something that no one ever saw coming. This season not so much

Predictions for next season? Dany is def gonna get preggers with Jon Snow's baby

Questions? Does anyone know when the next season is coming out lol or have they not even started filming..
How do we think Yigrette (Rose something?) feels about that sexy scene with Dany

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zamora_spin I don't buy that theory, though I do agree they (producers) seem to like letting theories like that go wild. I just don't think it makes sense. He probably is a stark just because of his origins, but I mean, so much time has passed. I just think he and Bran have a connection because he touched him north of the wall in a warg/green seer moment. You also have to remember that the night king is thousands of years old and Bran is maybe 12 in the books? I think in the show he's maybe 14. So imagine giving all this power to a child and then being like, sort through literally millions of minutes of data and tell us what's up? He has no idea. He's numb. And he also might feel like it's all pointless - what will be will be. I think if I'd witnessed millions of deaths it would be hard for me to care about more. And Bran hasn't been trained in any kind of battle strategy. What's nuts is that Jon has and he didn't stop at winterfell to regroup with Bran in person. That the adults aren't helping him. Hopefully Sam will.

I don't think any of this will go down as it has in the books tho re: Bran. I'm so stoked to see where the books go with all my fav characters because the show straight effed them up.

Avrilmai · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? I'll give it a 6, the second half mostly made up for the slow start, mainly bc Arya & Sansa took out Littlefinger, the official Jon reveal and the Wall coming down, I mean it had to happen, but what was the Night King's plan if he didn't have a dragon?

Fav moment? Honestly, it was the little moment between Brienne and The Hound talking about Arya.

Least fav moment? Theon on the beach, why did you waste valuable finale time on that?

Who won the week? Jon from his POV he got everything he wanted, an army, the girl, his family safe at Winterfell

Who lost the week? The Wall. Possibly Tormund and Beric...

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? I. don't. care. about. Theon. I had some sympathy for him and all his PTSD-ness in ep. 2, but I'm not invested in him. @zamora_spin I'm so with you on this.

How would you rate the season? it was, okay, there were some big reveals, but overall it felt both rushed and like not much happened.

What was your least fav thing about the season? The pacing, like many said it was hurry up and then wait and I agree it seems the writers were working backward.

Predictions for next season? Jon rides a dragon (i mean he has to right?) Also, death pays for life & there has been a lot of talk of how Dany can't have children, so Dany is KU.

Questions?
Um, what have they done to Sam? It just seems so out of character for him to first ignore Gilly and then to pass off the info like he found it.
So I saw it as Bran saying (earlier this season) that he needs to "see better" bc it is all pieces and then when he got the info from Sam he was able to go to that moment in time. Just me? or are y'all seeing it that way too?
Also I was wondering the same thing @doxiemoxie212 they make a big fuss about bringing Gendry back and then where is he? at the wall? on the way to Winterfell?

@doxiemoxie212 I'm guessing Bronn and Pod "went to get a drink" so that they didn't have to have Lena Headey and Jerome Flynn in the same scene.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@Avrilmai right but like, did they stay in kings landing? Are they going north? Is pod on bronns side? Is bronn on jaimes side still? Blargh.

Forgot about the brienne/hound scene re: arya. Loved that!

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zamora_spin also forgot to mention re: the Ringers prediction.... well, the Night King has proven himself to be a better battle strategist than any of them lol. I think he'll push everyone south. Like, I think Jaime will meet up with everyone at Winterfell, they'll have like a little bit of time for him to tell them all what Cersei's double cross plans are, but then they'll see the Night King marching south, and they'll be like shit, we don't have the man power to stop him, we need to fall back. I hope Howland Reed is part of the falling back situation. I think they'll try to hold the Night King off at Moat Cailin (sp? too lazy to google lol), since it's been said no one can take that. But then I think Cersei will march on them or something. Like, I basically think The Heroes are going to have the prospect of battles on both sides, and I think Jaime will realize there's no reasoning with Cersei, and the only thing that can happen is to kill her. But I'm annoyed with that idea because I really was hoping that her death would mirror the Mad King's - ie, preventing her from burning them all in King's Landing. I guess it could go the other way, though, if the Night King goes to King's Landing first? I just don't see how they'd get all the zombies there. I understand how he could go on his dragon first and just burn stuff down, but I don't really think it makes sense for the zombie army to be able to go with him that quickly. IDK.

Avrilmai · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 @zamora_spin I hope Howland Reed is part of the last season, but I just don't know if they will bring in a new character. There was some speculation that Meera ended up with a Valyerian steel sword.

suzycupcake · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? 10; epic status.

Fav moment? When Sansa chose her family over Little Finger. I actually was surprised. It's hard to surprise me.

Least fav moment? Jon and Khaleesi having sex. Why didn't Bran see that and stop it? I really hope the 3 eyed raven can be wrong.

Who won the week? The White Walkers obviously . . .

Who lost the week? Jaime Lannister. What a pussy!

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? 10. I was so happy when he won the fight. He really needed that. He had been gone for so long.

How would you rate the season? 7. I think it moved too fast which made the story suffer and am disappointed in the number of episodes

What was your least fav thing about the season? Little Finger. I think they kept him alive for farrrrr too long to the point that people cannot even remember all of the things he had done to deserve death. I never understood the point of his character. Also Cersei being pregnant. There were also some continuity issues that drove me nuts.

Predictions for next season? I predict that Khaleesi will be faced with the choice to kill Viserion or maybe it will be Drogon and Rhaegal who will not be able to. I also predict that she will end up pregnant, but who knows. The writers have done a great job tricking us in the last few episodes although there was also a lot of predictability.

Questions? Why didn't Bran see the right information in his prior visions? Are there any consequences to Jon being brought back to life? Where did the name "Sand" come from? I thought I heard either Sam or Bran mention that as being Jon's last name.

leilee101 · August 2017

@suzycupcake "Sand" is the last name of a bastard who is born in Dorne, which is what Bran thought he was until Sam told him about the annulment & secret wedding ceremony ... but he's not a Sand or a Snow he's a Targaryen!

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@suzycupcake @LeilaK9288 but it was lazy writing because who your father is designates your bastard name (not where you're physically born), so even if Jon was Rhaegar's bastard instead of legitimate son, his surname should have been Waters, not Sand.

suzycupcake · August 2017

Who is Waters? That's what I'm not enjoying about this season either. This is the continuity issues I am talking about. Yes, lazy writing.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@suzycupcake no, Waters is not a person. Sand is not a person. Snow is not a person. ALL BASTARDS are given a surname based on where their father is from. So if your father is a Targaryen? Your last name is Waters because ALLLLLL bastards with fathers from that area are Waters. Father from the north? Your last name is Snow. Father from Dorne? Your last name is Sand. Because you are a BASTARD. Make sense?

suzycupcake · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 Yes it does and thanks. I'm starting to feel like the bastard

I could've just googled that.

zwink1 · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? I'll go with 7. It was actually pretty good as far as episodes go this season, but it wasn't as fantastic as I would have hoped for for a season finale.

Fav moment? Ahhh, tough, but honestly, I think I have to go with Jaime leaving Cersei. It's minor in the grand scheme of things that happened this episode, but I think it's epic for her. He was the last person holding her to her last remaining shred of humanity. With him gone, she has nothing (until that baby - whose-ever it is - is born).

Least fav moment? Theon. Just stop. stttaaaahhhhppppp. I give zero shits. I'm still irritated that they administratively changed Asha's name to Yara. Like, wtf (yeah, yeah, yeah Osha v Asha is hard - but Osha's dead first, why not change her name)? And really, really? He wins a fight because some dude kicks him in his non-balls...really? And then the Iron Born just follow him? Yeah right. Lame.

Who won the week? The Night King, obviously. He literally did nothing and took down the wall. Which is really impressive considering he was able to completely circumvent digging up that horn that was supposed to actually allow everyone to cross the wall....................

Who lost the week? Cersei. She just effed herself. Please, go ahead. Marry Euron...good luck with that.

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? -1. I'm over it. He needs to go away.

How would you rate the season? Ehh, I'll go with a 5. Overall, it was pretty underwhelming.

What was your least fav thing about the season? Jon officially getting outed as a Targaryen. I've always had a soft spot for Jon and Rhaegar, though separately. I'm glad I can tie it all up together now.

Predictions for next season? Tormund is still alive!!! He has to be. He CANNOT make it back from North of the wall just to get blasted on the wall and never make it to Brienne. I refuse to believe it! Also, Cersei's baby is Euron's. I refuse to believe that it's Jaime's now that he's finally seen the light (I apparently refuse to believe a lot).

Also, idk about the Jon/Dany Targaryen baby thing, but I do think there are some dragon eggs in our future here.

Questions?
Yes to basically all of @doxiemoxie212's questions.

Additional questions:
- What are the odds that Euron, turncoat that he is, really did sail for his island leaving Cersei hanging? I mean, after all, he's seen dead people and dragons now...
This sort of coincides with the whole "how did they even know there'd be a zombie man" question.

- What is Cersei's supposed end game here? Am I really supposed to believe that she managed to reign in her sociopathic anger long enough to let Tyrion walk out of the Red Keep for some long-term plan? Please...the woman is systematically torturing people in her dungeons for lesser infractions than killing both of her parents. No way she let's him walk out to further an end game.

- So, while I'm all about the Dany/Jon romance, is it just me or does anyone else think the Aunt/Nephew aspect of that is going to throw a liiiittttlllleeee wrench into things when people figure that whole situation out? Targaryens or not.

- Finally - why are we all freaking out about this 100,000+ strong zombie army? Jon/Jorah/Tormund/the Hound know that all you really need to do is take out the like 5 generals and the rest of the army goes down with them. Sure, easier said than done, but still. 5 people are a lot easier to hit than 100,000. And yes, you now need to contend with a zombie dragon, but as the Night King was kind enough to show us, apparently dragons are fragile. Just make a dragon glass spear and shoot it in zombie dragon's general vicinity and you should be good, apparently. Also. Last question. Which dragon is it that died? Is that Viserion or Rhaegal? It matters.

ETA: One last question. How are we supposed to reconcile this idealistic vision of Ned/the Starks that we've been told thus far with the whole Jon/Aegon situation? I mean, Ned Stark's greatest hallmark was his honor, right? A point that was driven home in this episode by Jon's refusal to lie to Cersei about his situation with Dany. But all along Ned's been holding on to this massive lie? No way. Dude dug up all of Robert's bastards to prove Cersei's kids were Jaime's. The whole idea that he KNEW Jon was Rhaegar's son and didn't tell anyone is asinine. Under this story line, Robert's entire rebellion was based on false beliefs. So what, Ned Stark and his honor just went along with that? And then, when Robert died, Ned went ahead and supported Stannis' claim to the throne knowing full well that Rhaegar's son was right under his nose? No way.

Okay, one last - last question. Bran's a warg. Can he control zombie animals? Like, a dragon perhaps? Did I miss a part in the books where this was explained as impossible?

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zwink1 they said at least 100,000 strong army. A lot of people estimate it more like 6-8 million given the night king has access to all the graves of every wildling that ever lived beyond the wall.... so like, that's a lot to get through.

StephieBears88 · August 2017

Viserion died

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@StephieBears88 two episodes ago? Yes

StephieBears88 · August 2017

How would you rate rate this episode? 7 it was good but could have been better.

Fav moment? Arya killing littlefinger

Least fav moment? Anything with Theon. Why is he still alive

Who won the week? The knight king

Who lost the week? Cersei

On a scale of 1-10 how much do you care about Theon? 0

How would you rate the season? 6 It was too short and some of the writing sucked.

What was your least fav thing about the season? The writers messing up details like jon being a Sand when he should be a Water. Not that either matters when he is not a bastard anyway. Or giving him the name of Rhaegar's older son.

Predictions for next season? Dany and Jon have a baby. Cersei dies from her pregnancy or Jamie kills her.

StephieBears88 · August 2017

doxiemoxie212 sorry my reply wasn't tagging who i replied to she had asked which dragon it was.

zwink1 · August 2017

@StephieBears88 - Thanks! I missed that, I didn't know that they had actually said which dragon it was that was killed.

@doxiemoxie212, good point. However, there are still only so many white walkers, and the writers have apparently adopted vampire theory in that every wight a white walker created is destroyed when the white walker is taken out, which would still leave them with only a handful of actual targets. I mean, yes, they still have to get through an army to get to the white walkers, but it's a little less formidable with that info.

StephieBears88 · August 2017

zwink1 you have more than a handful of targets. Craster's sons all became walkers not wights. But yes still way less targets than needing to defeat all the wights.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@StephieBears88 lol sorry thought you were trolling like "dumbledore dies"

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zwink1 I get that, but the night king made most of them, and he's going to be on a dragon now, so they're going to need to bring zombie viscerion down first, or drop from a different dragon onto his zombie dragon (which even if successful would disintegrate if successful). I just think it's like needle in a haystack stuff. How do you get to the wight walkers through legit milllions of wights? It's a lot to deal with, and a lot of destruction in the meantime. And every person they kill joins their army.

zwink1 · August 2017

@StephieBears88 But has that been truly worked out at this point, or is it still in fan theory territory? Yes, there's the scene with the wws taking Craster's son, but there's nothing about that that actually demonstrates that the wws are turning Craster's sons into anything other than wights.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zwink1 no that's confirmed. The wights don't age, crasters sons clearly do since they're turned as infants.

zwink1 · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 You're right, I just feel like it's a purposeful oversight that none of the main characters have latched on to the destroy the ww - destroy the wights line yet. Like, it's going to be the convenient out for characters at the last minute of some huge battle. And Cersei has already built those scorpions.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zwink1 I mean, Beric latched onto it pretty hard, I just don't think it actually makes it that much easier a battle to win. It just means it's a battle they COULD win; without that detail I think the war would be literally unwinable now that the night king has a dragon (and clearly much better battle strategy).

zwink1 · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212, Hmm, well, clearly I'm bad at the show. As far as I'm aware, what happens to craster's sons in the books is still very much up in the air - though Craster's wifes' have their superstitions. I guess I just did not make that hop on the show from baby turned blue eyed to baby turned white walker (given that wights also go ice-blue).

I guess the stash of dragon glass is what made the battle winnable in my mind, which is why I find the white walker thing so obvious. The wights really don't seem to be that stealthy in their battle behavior and win more due to shear numbers (and the fact that they have nothing to lose). I really don't think the Night King has a much better battle strategy. His strategy mainly seems to be: Let me stand here and watch while my massive army of undead swarms the enemy...and maybe shoot a javelin every now and then.

zamoraspin · August 2017

@doxiemoxie212 @zwink1 I'm getting confused with who is saying what but I'm like 99% sure that the Night King has been turning Craster's sons into White Walkers, not Wights. As doxie pointed out, they obviously are aging because we don't see any infant W's, and we know from Bran's visions that White Walkers are humans who have been turned into something else. The WW probs can't reproduce themselves and this explanation makes sense in light of there being no female WW.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zamora_spin yes agree

zwink1 · August 2017

@zamora_spin all of what you and @doxiemoxie212 have said sounds totally legit and likely. I think I've just developed a habit of making 0 assumptions when it comes to GOT because GRRM likes to throw our those curve balls...but I need to stop with the show. I'm 90% sure I'm giving the show writers too much credit here. Lol.

doxiemoxie212 · August 2017

@zwink1 I think you're right that very little of the lore around the wights has been confirmed in the books, and I personally believe A LOT of what has happened in the show beyond the time frame of the books will be very different in the books (if we ever get them..... but I can't think about that too much or I get sad). That said, the Craster's sons/wights situation in the show happened while GRRM was involved heavily in the show, so I have more faith in that being legit. Sort of like how I believe Jon is absolutely Rhaegar/Lyanna's son in the books too, but I'm not sure I buy his name will end up being Aegon, etc., because the former part of that happened/was hinted at on the show while GRRM was involved, but the latter was after he was like PEACE OUT YO! The Ringer's The Watch podcast talked a bit about all that this week, and I thought they made some really interesting points. Two of those being: 1) it seems like the show is embarrassed by the fantasy aspect; they're more interested in people talking politics in rooms, and 2) the show is not interested at all in grounding the fantasy aspects into a rich, cohesive world with rules that actually make sense (and clearly outlining those for viewers), which I think is one of the best aspects of GRRM's writing - it's so consistent, and you can really follow the path he gives for how the "rules" of the fantasy world we're in work.

Avrilmai · August 2017

@zwink1 I think y'all talked about a lot of questions already. The thing that stood out to me was the can Bran warg into a zombie question. And initially my thought was no, but I was rewatching this season on Sunday and we saw him warg into one of the giant-wights so I guess, show wise, that established that he can warg into reanimated/zombie things.

as for Ned and his honor. I guess you can look at it as Roberts rebellion was already underway/nearly over by the time he found Lyanna and so he was bound to "honor" his promise to his sister and keep her son safe. And after Robert died it would look really suspicious for his Hand to say, well my "bastard" son is not my son but the rightful heir. That wouldn't have going over well. The safest place for Jon at that time was probably at the Wall.

StephieBears88 · August 2017

doxiemoxie212 I feel like his name would have been Aemon Targaryen not Aegon since Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon. Rhaegar met with Maestar Aemon in regards to Azor Ahai the prince that was promised so I could see him naming the son he thinks could be this prince after him.

What is everyones thoughts about Tyrion. He seemed upset when he was standing outside Danys door. Could he have been falling for her himself? Or do you think he promised something to his sister we didn't see to get her to "agree" to send troops and the romantic relationship ruins that. Just that he didn't seem against them getting together last week even pointed out to Dany that Jon clearly was interested in her.

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