ETA: I've been around The Bump for well over a year. Shocker: I have Facebook friends I met through The Bump.
You are one of the ladies who brings negativity to this forum. Kindness will prevail.
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Believe me, I know how to WK with the best of them, but you are definitely not being kind. Maybe try to lead by example? Make friends? Show compassion in your responses? Just a suggestion.
Are we really going through this again? Someone with hurt feelings trying to change the way this BMB works? I feel like we just had one of these. We've been here doing business as usual for like 2 months now... it's not going to change. The snark and gifs and science are here to stay.
And calling people out for being "negative" when they're actually really supportive is super lame.
It's the baby. I went for an unplanned U/S this week at 11weeks and 2 days. I have been feeling flutters for one week. I felt the flutter and within one second the baby was seen moving on the U/S machine. The OB doc was shocked. Yes, it can be the baby. I experienced it myself. I can only feel it when I'm lying on my back though.
@loganjsmommy1978 I think it's fair to say that everyone who responded has personal experience to bring to the table, whether that's information directly from their doctor, previous experiences with pregnancy, etc. I read through the posts and it seems that you believe your single anecdotal support, in your mind, trumps anyone else's experience and response. I think it's fair and appropriate for you to share your experience, but then you end up personally attacking other members when they disagree.
Having spent over a decade teaching and working with teens, I'll be totally honest with you: your responses here and those I've read in the past are some of the most teen-drama-inspired statements I've read on TB. I don't think you hear yourself (or understand how you're coming across), if you truly think that you're in the right with the way you interact with others in this community.
I also don't think OP is a real poster because I think people create fake accounts to stir up fake drama like this, so call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think a lot of the WKing that goes on is for naught.
It's the baby. I went for an unplanned U/S this week at 11weeks and 2 days. I have been feeling flutters for one week. I felt the flutter and within one second the baby was seen moving on the U/S machine. The OB doc was shocked. Yes, it can be the baby. I experienced it myself. I can only feel it when I'm lying on my back though.
@loganjsmommy1978 I think it's fair to say that everyone who responded has personal experience to bring to the table, whether that's information directly from their doctor, previous experiences with pregnancy, etc. I read through the posts and it seems that you believe your single anecdotal support, in your mind, trumps anyone else's experience and response. I think it's fair and appropriate for you to share your experience, but then you end up personally attacking other members when they disagree.
Having spent over a decade teaching and working with teens, I'll be totally honest with you: your responses here and those I've read in the past are some of the most teen-drama-inspired statements I've read on TB. I don't think you hear yourself (or understand how you're coming across), if you truly think that you're in the right with the way you interact with others in this community.
I also don't think OP is a real poster because I think people create fake accounts to stir up fake drama like this, so call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think a lot of the WKing that goes on is for naught.
I'm not saying anyone should debunk science, hell i'm a nurse practitioner and all I practice is science and evidenced based medicine. All I was saying is that there is probably a more tactful way for some to get your point across that it's actually gas and not baby, when those people might not be as informed on science facts. And I understand that they don't have a true user name, never posted etc, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't treat them with respect. That's all.
Mmmm no, I disagree with this. So it's cool that you're a nurse practitioner. I think maybe in a different life I would have chosen that profession. But in this life I'm a teacher. All day long I spend my time informing people about things they were not previously aware of. I do not hold their hand or pat their head when I teach. I do not have lengthy conversations about what they thought before was wrong. I tell them their information is incorrect, and provide them with data from a reliable source.
If you need someone to hold your hand and whisper sweet nothings in your ear for you to obtain new information then maybe OP shouldn't have gone on a board and asked this question.
Not that she cares either way since she hasn't been back.
You know what I think? I think everyone was really nice. Mean would have been ignoring her question - or worse leading her to believe something incorrect. Instead people took time out of their day to Google the answer and report back with correct information. That isn't rude or disrespectful. That's helpful and honest.
I think it's disturbing to watch people receive reliable data and reject it because someone wan't treating them like a little special snowflake when they relayed the information.
Also, fun anecdote about convincing yourself that you feel something: This morning I woke up at 5 am with horrible stabbing pain in my right low pelvic area. I was convinced it was a big cysts rupturing or something going on with my ovary. Since I have PCOS I have often dealt with ovary pain and the feeling of cysts rupturing for many years. I was freaking out and ready to call the OB as soon as they opened.
But then an hour later I pooped. And the pain went away. It was just digestion.
So even if this is your 3rd pregnancy and you SWEAR you know the difference between gas or baby movement.... well... you might not.
@loganjsmommy1978 I think it's a pretty accurate and fair judgement to say you have a habit of picking arguments and making every board about you. I haven't once posted anything rude to you or anyone for that matter and I don't gif.... but damn girl - I have personally really had enough of your negativity and desire to argue with everyone who doesn't agree with you.
I have to wonder if you enjoy the drama and you are here to constantly flame the fire. This is a board based heavily on scientific facts - something you clearly feel is debatable most of the time. perhaps this is not the right home for you ? I say this sincerely and with no malice - I honestly don't know why you are still here considering you basically can't stand any of us.
Support doesn't mean head patting and spreading false ideas. It means empowering each other with correct information so you know what's going on.
If I had to pick between one friend who sugar coated everything and a friend who was honest and straight forward I would always take the honest one.
I also think it's so silly to accuse these women of not being supportive.
Wanna know who cheered me on every step of the way with my infertility diagnosis and treatments? Many of the women you are calling unsupportive. They were my biggest cheerleaders when I got my BFP and when I post about my ultrasounds they gush right along with me. So no. You're wrong.
I've been absent from the board for a while, am still catching up on lurking, but wanted to pop in to post for any FTMs lurking, to echo what others have said about worrying about not feeling anything by X weeks.
With my first there were similar posts (I was under a different SN then) about moms feeling baby at 10, 11, 12 weeks, and it took me a while (maybe 18 weeks?) to feel anything. Those posts about "omg I can totally feel baby dancing" at 10 weeks made me feel somehow inadequate because I wasn't there yet, and even though people were saying "I'm not saying this is normal, just that it's possible," it still felt like a humblebrag and that those moms not feeling it as early were somehow inferior.
Not saying that's the tone here, just saying I recognize how it might come off to some FTMs, and how reassuring, helpful, and supportive it is to be told the science and facts about your body and baby's development to understand what's going on and that you're normal. The movement will come, and when it does, you won't need to ask if it's gas or baby, you'll know.
Also, months after DS was born, I SWEAR I would feel the exact same "baby moving" feeling I did when I was pregnant. And there was no possible way that it was a baby. So to reiterate what others have said, it is very possible and highly likely that gas or general digestive rumblings feel the same as movement, but are not.
Lol I like how you blow the thread up with drama and then demand it be closed down.
That makes the kind of sense that isn't.
I really don't care what you think. I'm tired of having an opinion that is shared with other members and when I try to verbalize it, I'm ganged up on by self-admitted snarky commenters. I did nothing wrong yet one of you called me a name that is absolutely not who I am. I take offense. I would never, ever do that. I'm sick and tired of this. Such an unfair comment. Think what you want. For me, she crossed a line. I give up.
She didn't say that based on nothing. You had just attacked a ton of very active, caring, long time members and called them rude and unsupportive. And come on. How many of these threads have ended with a ton of people arguing with you - it really DOES seem to a lot of us that you just always bring these back to you and how you feel instead of anything to do with the OP. If tons of other people feel the same as you - fine! Let them speak up then, if that's true.
Please don't act like a huge victim here. You came in with torches blazing ready to argue. So an argument is what you got. You threw the first punch, don't be surprised when you get smacked back.
ETA - also if you define bullying as not leaving someone alone after they have requested you leave them alone then you are bullying half this darn board.
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Re: Baby moved !
Dx: PCOS
Married: June 2013
TTC#1: January 2015
BFP #1 8/24/15 | MC 9/3/15 at 6w2d
BFP #2: 12/12/15 | DD born 8/29/16
TTC#2: June 2017
BFP #3: 7/15/17 | DS born 3/20/18
I really don't care about the opinions of people I don't have any respect for. Not going to lose a wink of sleep.
Being nice doesn't mean I have to put up with BS.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
I feel this may have been meant for the UO thread? @kiki75 is anything but negative towards the contributing members of this forum.
Are we really going through this again?
And calling people out for being "negative" when they're actually really supportive is super lame.
Having spent over a decade teaching and working with teens, I'll be totally honest with you: your responses here and those I've read in the past are some of the most teen-drama-inspired statements I've read on TB. I don't think you hear yourself (or understand how you're coming across), if you truly think that you're in the right with the way you interact with others in this community.
I also don't think OP is a real poster because I think people create fake accounts to stir up fake drama like this, so call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think a lot of the WKing that goes on is for naught.
@kiki75 is pretty much the best, btw
Married: 2/1/2012
TTC #1 since August 2016
DH SA Dec 2016: Low count (11.7 mil total motile), 5% morphology, 73% motility
Blood work June 2017: AMH 1.1 (ugh), FSH 8.4, LH: 5.2, estradiol 28 pg/ML, progesterone 7.4
HSG July 2017: tubes clear
BFP 7/24/17 - EDD 4/5/2018
If you need someone to hold your hand and whisper sweet nothings in your ear for you to obtain new information then maybe OP shouldn't have gone on a board and asked this question.
Not that she cares either way since she hasn't been back.
You know what I think? I think everyone was really nice. Mean would have been ignoring her question - or worse leading her to believe something incorrect. Instead people took time out of their day to Google the answer and report back with correct information. That isn't rude or disrespectful. That's helpful and honest.
I think it's disturbing to watch people receive reliable data and reject it because someone wan't treating them like a little special snowflake when they relayed the information.
But then an hour later I pooped. And the pain went away. It was just digestion.
So even if this is your 3rd pregnancy and you SWEAR you know the difference between gas or baby movement.... well... you might not.
I have to wonder if you enjoy the drama and you are here to constantly flame the fire. This is a board based heavily on scientific facts - something you clearly feel is debatable most of the time. perhaps this is not the right home for you ? I say this sincerely and with no malice - I honestly don't know why you are still here considering you basically can't stand any of us.
BFP #2 7/11/17 | EDD 3/24/18
BFP #1 5/2/17 | EDD 1/12/18 | MC 5/18/17
If I had to pick between one friend who sugar coated everything and a friend who was honest and straight forward I would always take the honest one.
I also think it's so silly to accuse these women of not being supportive.
Wanna know who cheered me on every step of the way with my infertility diagnosis and treatments? Many of the women you are calling unsupportive. They were my biggest cheerleaders when I got my BFP and when I post about my ultrasounds they gush right along with me. So no. You're wrong.
With my first there were similar posts (I was under a different SN then) about moms feeling baby at 10, 11, 12 weeks, and it took me a while (maybe 18 weeks?) to feel anything. Those posts about "omg I can totally feel baby dancing" at 10 weeks made me feel somehow inadequate because I wasn't there yet, and even though people were saying "I'm not saying this is normal, just that it's possible," it still felt like a humblebrag and that those moms not feeling it as early were somehow inferior.
Not saying that's the tone here, just saying I recognize how it might come off to some FTMs, and how reassuring, helpful, and supportive it is to be told the science and facts about your body and baby's development to understand what's going on and that you're normal. The movement will come, and when it does, you won't need to ask if it's gas or baby, you'll know.
Also, months after DS was born, I SWEAR I would feel the exact same "baby moving" feeling I did when I was pregnant. And there was no possible way that it was a baby. So to reiterate what others have said, it is very possible and highly likely that gas or general digestive rumblings feel the same as movement, but are not.
That makes the kind of sense that isn't.
Please don't act like a huge victim here. You came in with torches blazing ready to argue. So an argument is what you got. You threw the first punch, don't be surprised when you get smacked back.
Girl. You were (rightfully) called a narcissist, not some slur.
ETA - also if you define bullying as not leaving someone alone after they have requested you leave them alone then you are bullying half this darn board.
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