Get me a ticket for the "Doesn't like Friends train". I always thought it was a horrible group of people being horrible to each other. Same reason I don't like Sienfeld.
@fishsticks-n-custard I thought the show was okay, but Ross and Rachel are like the worst couple in the history of TV couples. He's possessive and a jerk and he sabotaged her career! And for some reason the way she says the name Ross makes me want to jump out a window.
Totally unrelated, but @kmalls is your profile pic a Boston puppy or a bunny? I've always looked quickly and assumed it was a bunny but I noticed it has a Boston face. We have two Boston Terriers, so I'm a fan!
Me (33). DH (37). DD (2.2012). MCs x4. After 4 years & 7 months, due 4.2018!
I live in the path of the eclipse too. It starts at 10:22 and ends at 1:09 with the full eclipse lasting only minutes. People here are over reacting and buying out the grocery store because they think there won't be any food. But they have been great at restocking. They are estimating half a million visitors to our town of 60,000. Also we are not in school so no issues there but my employer is telling me not to come in that day so I am not going to complain.
@Mattel I'm a total Boston terrier lover too! I have one currently but have grown up with them. Totally not who you asked but had to unite in the Boston Terrier love
@MountaineerMomma@codingchildhood Im not a expert by any means but there is research that says that humans don't need animal products at all. If you eat a healthy plant based diet you will get all the nutrients you need.
Im not a vegan but I wish I could be disciplined enough to do it.
@MountaineerMomma@codingchildhood Im not a expert by any means but there is research that says that humans don't need animal products at all. If you eat a healthy plant based diet you will get all the nutrients you need.
Im not a vegan but I wish I could be disciplined enough to do it.
Vaganism is definitely a legitimate diet, if done right. However, it is extremely hard to meet a growing child's dietary needs with a 100% vegan diet. It absolutely can be done, but it requires research, intelligence, and care. Not every human possesses those traits, so occasionally you see articles where someone tried to raise a child vegan, and accidentally killed the kid with malnutrition. I'm pretty sure that is what the OP meant, and why it gets her angry.
@MountaineerMomma@codingchildhood Im not a expert by any means but there is research that says that humans don't need animal products at all. If you eat a healthy plant based diet you will get all the nutrients you need.
Im not a vegan but I wish I could be disciplined enough to do it.
Vaganism is definitely a legitimate diet, if done right. However, it is extremely hard to meet a growing child's dietary needs with a 100% vegan diet. It absolutely can be done, but it requires research, intelligence, and care. Not every human possesses those traits, so occasionally you see articles where someone tried to raise a child vegan, and accidentally killed the kid with malnutrition. I'm pretty sure that is what the OP meant, and why it gets her angry.
*lurker*
In the case you are referring to, they were feeding an INFANT plant based milks instead of breastmilk or formula. That's not comparable with raising a kid vegan. These parents were also neglectful and abusive and did not seek adequate medical care for their child.
@MountaineerMomma@codingchildhood Im not a expert by any means but there is research that says that humans don't need animal products at all. If you eat a healthy plant based diet you will get all the nutrients you need.
Im not a vegan but I wish I could be disciplined enough to do it.
Vaganism is definitely a legitimate diet, if done right. However, it is extremely hard to meet a growing child's dietary needs with a 100% vegan diet. It absolutely can be done, but it requires research, intelligence, and care. Not every human possesses those traits, so occasionally you see articles where someone tried to raise a child vegan, and accidentally killed the kid with malnutrition. I'm pretty sure that is what the OP meant, and why it gets her angry.
*lurker*
In the case you are referring to, they were feeding an INFANT plant based milks instead of breastmilk or formula. That's not comparable with raising a kid vegan. These parents were also neglectful and abusive and did not seek adequate medical care for their child.
Sadly I am not referring to just one case. At least one couple a year kills their child by putting their kid into severe malnutrition via a "vegan" diet.
Like I said, vegan is a totally legitimate lifestyle choice, but you have to approach it thoughtfully to address a child's dietary needs.
The guidance on sushi & raw fish. It's based on a risk of parasites and salmonella that would normally die off during cooking. But, sushi fish is required by the FDA to be flash-frozen before serving, in order to kill off any possible parasites. Ok, so this leaves the risk of salmonella or other bacteria caused by mishandling at the restaurant. By this logic then, any raw vegetable or cold item you eat at this restaurant is under the same contamination risk! I just don't buy it. I haven't seen a citable study saying that raw fish itself is harmful, other than a risk of cross contamination. Additionally, the UK and Japan are not telling their pregnant women to not eat raw fish.
@lemondrop111 My last pregnancy I ate sushi and lunch meat all pregnancy. I also wasn't convinced by the evidence (or lack thereof). Also, when I started my first pregnancy was right when our most popular ice cream brand in Texas (bluebell) was pulled from the market due to listeria. It came back towards the end of my pregnancy and my OB was like, "Go for it. You know it's clean now."
Me: 35, Hubbie: 33 Married DH: 2013 DD: Dec 2015 BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018
@lemondrop111 My last pregnancy I ate sushi and lunch meat all pregnancy. I also wasn't convinced by the evidence (or lack thereof). Also, when I started my first pregnancy was right when our most popular ice cream brand in Texas (bluebell) was pulled from the market due to listeria. It came back towards the end of my pregnancy and my OB was like, "Go for it. You know it's clean now."
I totally ate sushi too! In the USA all fish is treated, so your risk in eating sushi is the same risk you take by eating out for any type of food. The only modifications I made are avoiding tuna and other high Mercury fish. That still leaves a whole lot of delicious options!
I knew the vegan comment would raise some controversy, that's why its an UO I guess..
@ngolimento those extreme cases definitely get me upset, but I also see it around me in my personal life on a much less extreme level. For example, I have a vegetarian friend who's wondering why her 1 year old is severely anemic....
Like I said, I DO believe a plant-based lifestyle can be a healthy one, and yes you can obtain all the micro and macronutients your body requires if you are very thoughtful and rigorous about it. That often (always?) means supplementing with fortified grains and things because there are certain nutrients that just aren't bioavailable in plant foods. B12, for example, is only found in animal products. You also have to work pretty hard to make sure you are getting enough calcium, iron, and zinc. I also think EPA and DHA are SUPER important for brain development, which is mostly found in fish. You can get it by eating a ton of seaweed, but I don't see too many toddlers eating that (which can be delicious for sure).
We eat a mostly plant-based diet but I think of certain foods, like fish and egg yolks, to be nutritional powerhouses (that, anecdotally, my kid LOVES. Her first "favorite" food was salmon. I think when kids first start eating solids, when offered a variety of healthy things, they will gravitate to things their bodies naturally need on any given day). I'm too lazy to find ways to get all the above mentioned nutrients into my diet when they are readily available in high quality meat, seafood, and dairy products.
I totally get the ethical arguments against eating meat and think that CAFO practices are abhorrent. But mono-crop farming is also bad for the environment, and there is an argument that eating some meat is better for the environment because calorie-for-calorie it lessens the impact on the planet. This is a whole ball of wax we don't need to get into.
Long story short - to each her own - if you have a thoughtful plant-based lifestyle and are ensuring your kiddos are properly fed I'm all for it.
@mountainsmama unfortunately for me and other vegans, I don't think your opinion is all that unpopular, haha. It's okay though, I definitely don't take criticism on my dietary choices to heart. I'll speak up in defense of it, for sure, but at the end of the day, I'm comfortable with my choices.
@ngolimento, I think the difference with Seinfeld is that they are supposed to be awful, selfish people, the Friends characters are not.
As to the vegan debate, I honestly would be more prone to judge (and not necessarily saying I would judge) a vegan who didn't feed the children a vegan diet, it seems hypocritical.
@holly321 I don't have my daughter on a 100% vegan diet, and I definitely feel like a hypocrite. =P in my defense, I switched to a vegan diet after she had already experienced chik-fil-a! That stuff is crack, I swear.
@codingchildhood yay another vegan! @holly321 That's exactly my plan, haha. MH is omni and we've read that if you only allow kids to be vegan, they might not be able to process meat and dairy as an adult. I felt hypocritical to believe animals deserve rights and choices but not my own kid in that regard. IMHO it just seems like the right thing to do, for my situation.
@SarahKate31, I did not know that. And honestly, either way I don't judge. I really don't care what anyone feeds their kids. My youngest lives off of chicken nuggets, protein shake and Mac and cheese (in my defense I tried, I really did, but he is autistic and has an eating disorder). In other words I have no room to judge anyone, haha
re Bluebell: I grew up in Houston and absolutely miss Bluebell now that I live in Ohio. We are going down there in a couple of weeks and I'll have to make sure to have some while I'm at my parents. I just miss Texas in general but especially the food - BBQ, TexMex, Bluebell, Marble Slab, etc
Married: August 2014 TTC #1: February 2017 - BFP 7/28/17; EDD 4/8/18; DD born 4/7/18 TTC #2: February 2019
@justkeepswimming8 I have family in Indy and they have Blue Bell there, though granted not the same selection as in Texas. Where in Houston did you grow up?
Me: 35, Hubbie: 33 Married DH: 2013 DD: Dec 2015 BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018
@fishsticks-n-custard - oh no way! Next time DH is working in Indy, I'll have him grab some if he can. I grew up in The Woodlands and my family still lives there. Are you from the Houston area too?
Married: August 2014 TTC #1: February 2017 - BFP 7/28/17; EDD 4/8/18; DD born 4/7/18 TTC #2: February 2019
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DS: 4(Nov'14)
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Im not a expert by any means but there is research that says that humans don't need animal products at all. If you eat a healthy plant based diet you will get all the nutrients you need.
Im not a vegan but I wish I could be disciplined enough to do it.
In the case you are referring to, they were feeding an INFANT plant based milks instead of breastmilk or formula. That's not comparable with raising a kid vegan. These parents were also neglectful and abusive and did not seek adequate medical care for their child.
Like I said, vegan is a totally legitimate lifestyle choice, but you have to approach it thoughtfully to address a child's dietary needs.
The guidance on sushi & raw fish. It's based on a risk of parasites and salmonella that would normally die off during cooking. But, sushi fish is required by the FDA to be flash-frozen before serving, in order to kill off any possible parasites. Ok, so this leaves the risk of salmonella or other bacteria caused by mishandling at the restaurant. By this logic then, any raw vegetable or cold item you eat at this restaurant is under the same contamination risk! I just don't buy it. I haven't seen a citable study saying that raw fish itself is harmful, other than a risk of cross contamination. Additionally, the UK and Japan are not telling their pregnant women to not eat raw fish.
Married DH: 2013
DD: Dec 2015
BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018
Married DH: 2013
DD: Dec 2015
BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018
@ngolimento those extreme cases definitely get me upset, but I also see it around me in my personal life on a much less extreme level. For example, I have a vegetarian friend who's wondering why her 1 year old is severely anemic....
Like I said, I DO believe a plant-based lifestyle can be a healthy one, and yes you can obtain all the micro and macronutients your body requires if you are very thoughtful and rigorous about it. That often (always?) means supplementing with fortified grains and things because there are certain nutrients that just aren't bioavailable in plant foods. B12, for example, is only found in animal products. You also have to work pretty hard to make sure you are getting enough calcium, iron, and zinc. I also think EPA and DHA are SUPER important for brain development, which is mostly found in fish. You can get it by eating a ton of seaweed, but I don't see too many toddlers eating that (which can be delicious for sure).
We eat a mostly plant-based diet but I think of certain foods, like fish and egg yolks, to be nutritional powerhouses (that, anecdotally, my kid LOVES. Her first "favorite" food was salmon. I think when kids first start eating solids, when offered a variety of healthy things, they will gravitate to things their bodies naturally need on any given day). I'm too lazy to find ways to get all the above mentioned nutrients into my diet when they are readily available in high quality meat, seafood, and dairy products.
I totally get the ethical arguments against eating meat and think that CAFO practices are abhorrent. But mono-crop farming is also bad for the environment, and there is an argument that eating some meat is better for the environment because calorie-for-calorie it lessens the impact on the planet. This is a whole ball of wax we don't need to get into.
Long story short - to each her own - if you have a thoughtful plant-based lifestyle and are ensuring your kiddos are properly fed I'm all for it.
/END RANT/
Married DH: 2013
DD: Dec 2015
BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018
As to the vegan debate, I honestly would be more prone to judge (and not necessarily saying I would judge) a vegan who didn't feed the children a vegan diet, it seems hypocritical.
@holly321 That's exactly my plan, haha. MH is omni and we've read that if you only allow kids to be vegan, they might not be able to process meat and dairy as an adult. I felt hypocritical to believe animals deserve rights and choices but not my own kid in that regard. IMHO it just seems like the right thing to do, for my situation.
Married: August 2014
TTC #1: February 2017 - BFP 7/28/17; EDD 4/8/18; DD born 4/7/18
TTC #2: February 2019
Married DH: 2013
DD: Dec 2015
BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018
Married: August 2014
TTC #1: February 2017 - BFP 7/28/17; EDD 4/8/18; DD born 4/7/18
TTC #2: February 2019
Married DH: 2013
DD: Dec 2015
BFP 8/14/17 --> Due 4/27/2018