@lund Hope all goes well on Friday! I hope you are able to get some more information from your RE.
@50Wife FX that the HSG was just what you needed!!!
@zwink1 So sorry to hear about the rough weekend. Hugs. This is definitely a rough situation to be in, and emotions can run high. Hopefully YH can find an outlet for his feelings that works for him.
@JuneRoseRuby Hugs lady. Sorry for the husband frustrations.
Yay for IUI @WillRunForWine21!!!!!
@leekat14 Sorry you weren't able to get a transfer date yet.
@kiwi2628 Sorry for CD1 and the pointless beta. I would be so aggravated if I were you.
@antoto Eeek! Getting so close!!!
@purplg8r I am just going to echo the others that you should just tell your principal that this was the first available appointment. You do not need to give them any more information than you feel comfortable giving. Like @adirat said, legally they have no right to know any more than that.
@saralee797-2 Yaaaaayyyyyy for FET next week!!!!! Diagnosis (If you've been): Unexplained
Cycle/CD: cycle 15/CD 15 Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Well, technically TWW, but IUI was a no go and I was ordered to abstain after CD12. What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Was originally going to be 100mg clomid+ovidrel+IUI, but apparently Clomid and I do not mix and I overstimulated. So now I am just WFAF so we can try Femara next cycle.
How are things going? In short, shitty. I started off this cycle feeling so hopeful, but now I have nothing. It is just so fucking frustrating
that I just don't even have a shot this time, and all of the time and money that
went into this cycle so far was all for nothing. So basically just f*ck
everything right now. Although, one plus to this situation is that apparently my insurance will cover the Femara, but I was OOP for the clomid, so at least now I get to save myself $30. Yay? Any questions?
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! I had off Monday and Tuesday, so that was nice.
@Sailing_Mama yay for next steps! Hope the appointment went smoothly this morning. @antoto HOLY COW YOU ARE GETTING SO CLOSE @purplg8r I wound up just telling my principal what was going on and she was great about it. I do worry because if we wind up moving to ivf it will be right at the beginning of the school year but I just am like "some things are time sensitive and I need to go when they say" @AlohaKumu wow! You are getting so close @JuneRoseRuby I know this is all so much but happy you have an appointment and will be thinking of you as you meet with the RE
AFM: IUI went ok on Monday. Question for those who have done an iui only from opk and not trigger. Did you go in the day after your surge or two days after? I surged Sunday with 2nd morning urine on a wondfo. The brought me in Monday at 1. The RE told us to have intercourse Monday night, yesterday and today to cover bases. To me that indicates iui should have been yesterday. I have a sneaky suspicion they went early because of the holiday. O well. Our timing was all messed up and we BD Sunday evening (I thought we would be scheduled for tuesday) so by the time of the iui, we only had 9.5 million motile sperm, considerably less than last month. Then DH couldn't finish the deal yesterday so I'm less than hopeful. (Sorry that got DD)
Eta: autocorrect
Me: 32, DH: 31 Together: 11/2008, married: 3/2014 DH: Type 1 Diabetes, (dx 4/15) Celiac Disease (dx 11/14), Treatment induced Neuropathy of Diabetes (dx 7/15) DH SA: 11/16: low count and low motility DH SA: 12/16: borderline low, count and motility 1/20/17: BFP, 1/24/17: CP 5/17:low AMH (0.89) 6/17: first IUI cycle, 50 mg clomid + ovidrel + IUI: 2 follies, BFN (count 58 million, 97% motility) 7/17: second IUI, 2.5 letrozole, OPK, IUI: 1 follie, BFN (count 9.5 million swimming- dont know percentage) 8/17: third IUI, 5.0 letrozole,
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@mispanda yay for vacation! Hopefully your hanging basket comes back to life!!
@saralee797-2 yay for your lining being thick enough!!! And H works evenings so he can be there if needed but I just feel more comfortable with my list of questions if I'm by myself.
@Pinky917 I'm sorry that this month was crappy! So frustrating! Sending you lots of hugs.
@WillRunForWine21i don't have any advice but FX that the timing you did works!
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) prelim testing for DE IVF
How are things going? Fine. It's a lot of waiting
Any questions?
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! I spent the beginning of the week in Nantucket and now I'm back at work. Friday I'm heading to visit my family for the weekend.
It took me a while to read through everyone's posts. I'm commenting in my heart.
I got the expected but still unpleasant call on Monday that I have to go in for more breast imaging after my mammogram a couple of weeks ago. I was warned that IF meds tend to effect breast tissue so when they compare this year's to my last exam they saw some changes which is an immediate red flag. Everything is likely fine but you just don't want to get that call. Anyway, I'm headed there in a little bit and will hopefully get a clean bill of health quickly.
Also, I'm bummed that I'm home from vacation.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@zwink1 sorry to hear about your fight Nothing like some infertility to test a relationship, you just have to remind yourselves that you are in this together and emotional outbursts are inevitable .. The amount of emotional investment we all have in this, in addition to that complete out of control feeling, ugh it is draining. Thinking of you.
@50Wife Cleared tubes!! Good luck this cycle, I have heard read that alot of people fall PG right after the HSG clearing the way.. fx crossed
@JuneRoseRuby I'm so sorry to hear you had a tough weekend. I think azoo is tougher on our husbands than we think, and denial can be a very real protective measure for alot of people and that doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't feeling hopeless inside. MH wants me to keep tracking my cycle and letting him know when I am fertile, to which I want to be like for what?? He thinks one sperm is going to miraculously sneak through. I want to be realistic but I also know his ego is already so, so damaged. I've been trying not to let him see me upset because if for now denial is all he has to keep himself together, I want to let him have that for now while we take our next steps. Also, what is virtual azoo?? I'm still new to this world and although my brain almost melted from reading so many research studies etc. I still don't understand all the types
@AlohaKumu your wait is getting shorter and shorter!! August is next month! Keep us posted with actual dates!
@mispanda I don't have much advice/first hand experience with the medication, but I know when my RE was going to rx me Femera right before we realized we were working with MFI, he told me it would "regulate" my cycles and potentially ovulate sooner than I had been, but I also tend to ovulate late so I think that was why.
and all of the creepy internet hugs for @kiwi2628 and @Pinky917. It's ok for us to have bad days, and to feel hopeless, and angry, and bitter. Rant away when rants are needed
AFM.. Diagnosis (If you've been): azoospermia
Cycle/CD: CD 29
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Waiting for AF (I'm never late, but I think it's all the stress. I don't want to test because I know there is no chance and I think that would be too hard for me to bring myself to even test, I would rather wait for it to come)
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) waiting.. meeting with the MFI Urologist for the first time on 7/17.
How are things going? Today I feel ok, yesterday I was devastated. Talk about waves of emotions..
Any questions? Not right now
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! Spent all weekend with friends and pools, it was a good distraction. Only working 2 days this week and taking a weekend trip to see my bff in NYC
Speaking of IF testing relationships, MH and I had a minor argument last night because I wanted to talk about future IF treatment options if medicated TI cycles don't work. He just completely shut me down and wouldn't talk about it. I said we probably should get a SA done soon just to make sure we aren't doing medicated cycles without knowing about a possible MFI issue, and he said "get your own stuff in order first and then we'll talk about it." Yeah...thanks for reminding me that I'm the one with the fertility issue. Granted, this is the only time he's said anything even close to "blaming" me, but it still hurt. I mean I know why he doesn't want to think too far ahead, but it's just completely incompatible with my personality not to make plans for future contingencies, especially when money will be involved. It's just drives me nuts that he shuts down the entire line of conversation. Sorry for the DD.
His job generally has prevented him from coming to my RE appointments, but maybe I should have him come to one. I feel like there's a bit of denial going on in his mind about everything, and maybe hearing things straight from the doctor would help.
ETA: @LeilaK9288 I feel you on the husband being in denial thing. Part of me is so glad that at least one of us is hopeful, but part of me is also like um ok let's be realistic though.
@beanship Wow. I'm sorry YH was like that. I know no man wants to hear/find out that something may be wrong with HIM but to shut it down like that is unacceptable. It's very possible it is a denial thing, but you guys are in this together and I hope he will come to realize that (ie meaning it's not YOUR issue alone) Hugs
@RVAmom315 Exactly! The thing that get me is that I don't want to waste a bunch of money on medicated TI cycles if there's a male factor issue that will make them pointless when we could be saving the money for a more expensive procedure. I've tried explaining that but he just shut some me down and says he doesn't want to talk about it. So again I'm wondering if maybe hearing something like that straight from the RE would mean he'd HAVE to listen haha.
@beanship Have you tried talking to him about the risks/long term effects of the drugs used in medicated cycles? Maybe he is in denial about how serious these meds are, and needs to hear the risks you are willing to take - but that you can't take them if you don't already know that you at least have a shot at them working!
@Sailing_Mama Thats true, maybe I haven't been clear enough with him about that. Although at this point idk if he'll even let me get that far into the conversation. Obviously I need to talk with my therapist about this lack of communication but I don't see her again for like 2 weeks...sigh.
@beanship oh gosh, I'm sorry. I would be so, so po'd at that reaction from my H. Separate and apart from the placing the blame issue there, the idea that there's a problem in one spot automatically meaning that there definitively isn't a problem in another is completely misguided...and I learned that the hard way after that type of thinking cost my H and I 7 months.
I hope you're able to speak with him more and he comes around! Why are men such a PITA?
@beanship sorry about YH reaction. This might be a naive question on my part but don't RE's require all testing (male and female) to be done before going greats with any treatment plan?
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
I agree with @BertieMeetsGertie -- I'd be shocked if a reputable RE would move forward with medicated cycles without doing an SA. It was the first thing we had to do after bloodwork, even though we were pretty sure I was the cause.
@adirat@BertieMeetsGertie Yeah honestly I was wondering about that. But again I haven't talked to my RE's office in ages. Basically a couple of months ago they were like ok take this metformin and let's see if you ovulate, if you don't ovulate then take the progesterone and call us on CD 1 and we'll have you come in to talk about moving forward. They had said a medicated TI cycle with Femara was our next step, so I assumed that's what they were going to talk to me about moving forward with. But I had been wondering why they hadn't insisted on a SA yet. I mean it would've made my life a lot easier because I could just tell MH "sorry the RE says you have to have one or they won't treat me." Basically....I just need to call my RE and ask them what's up. I didn't give up on the idea that maybe I'd spontaneously ovulate until a week or so ago when I started taking the progesterone, so basically I've been putting off calling for a week. Because apparently denial is going around in the beanship household.
@adirat@kiwi2628 I can't even get an appointment with an RE until all of the testing is completed. I thought maybe it was just my insurance, but it seems like good practice. I'd hate to shell out cash and time for a medicated cycle just to go in for an IUI or something and have the RE say "whoops, looks like we can't do the IUI because there's a MFI issue." Just doesn't make sense in my noggin.
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
I just hate phone calls so much. And I hate that I have to make this phone call. But I can't put this off any longer. I will call the RE's office. I have a 5 minute deadline starting....now.
ETA: Thank you guys for reminding me that I need to ask these kinds of questions about my treatment.
Ok I just left the world's most rambling message on my RE's nurse voicemail, saying (in a long, rambling way) hey the Metformin didn't work and I know it's not CD1 yet but call me to talk about my treatment plan and maybe getting a SA.
Again, thank you ladies for making me question why we hadn't had a SA yet. I guess I kinda figured they knew what they were doing. But, apparently I have to become more educated about the fertility treatment process so I can make sure they're doing the right things at the right times.
ETA: wording
ETA: I think I partly hadn't called until now because of the denial, but also partly a bit of shyness because I didn't want to be annoying and calling them before they told me to call and asking annoying questions. But I guess if I'm going to end up paying them a bazillion dollars I should make sure I get my money's worth and call them whenever I feel like it.
@LeilaK9288 So virtual Azoospermia is the "almost zero sperm" type of azoo. Since MH had 3 sperm his first SA and 47 sperm his second SA, he's virtually azoospermatic. It's oddly more rare than typical azoo. I didn't know anything about it until recently either. Don't worry, I'm still learning too!
@saralee797-2 Its clearly not finished yet, but when we tore the tiles up and got all the adhesive off, this is what was underneath it.
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@beanship Not a silly question - because it can be hard when we get drivebys who post in the grad thread, some of the IF ladies prefer not to go in unless they know it's someone they know and love... so the unicorns are our 'bat signal' that an IF-er posted in the grad thread
@beanship IF thread member has posted in the grad thread. It's a signal for us to go check the grad thread as many of us don't look at it otherwise.
Edit: @Sailing_Mama beat me to it. But, I will also add. In relation to your SA issue, I actually don't find it that odd that your RE wouldn't insist on an SA before starting treatment. That's NOT to say that I don't think you should absolutely request one. I'm just saying that fertility issues are far too commonly associated with the woman having the problem, and even trained Drs are susceptible to that bias. If they had already uncovered an issue on your end, I can absolutely see them not even thinking about testing the other side. Again, I am not at all condoning it, or saying that a good Dr would do it. I'm just saying, I don't find it all that surprising tbh.
This thread is so hard to keep up with but I am thrilled for our IF unicorns!!!!
I am currently WTO with lots of ewcm today and it's H's bday so I'm pretty excited! I'm gifting him a trip to Ireland for his birthday because he's always wanted to go but I don't even know where to start with my trip research. So far I have staying in a castle and falconry on our list of things to do. Any tips??
Me: 28 | DH: 33 EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
Ok I got a call back and they've put in an order for the SA. They do want me to do a medicated TI cycle next cycle so apparently it was a good thing I called about the SA. I think I'm just going to lie and say that the RE's office refused to do the medicated cycle without a SA first. I feel a little guilty about my plan to lie to MH, but he's just being so ridiculous about this completely normal test. So now I just have to break the news to him and get it scheduled.
@haylsbayls I use TripAdvisor to plan all of our trips, and it hasn't let me down yet. They have some good forums if you want to ask for itinerary advice. ETA: Falconry sounds awesome.
@beanship sorry your husband is being so difficult about the SA. Good luck on getting it scheduled! Thanks for the TripAdvisor advice. I've never had a desire to go to Ireland but DH has been asking for years so I didn't even know what there is to do there.
Me: 28 | DH: 33 EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
Just got back from my check-in appt with my RE. We had previously discussed IUI after my next cycle, because she was concerned about my husband's morph %. He had a urologist appt last week, and the doctor told him everything looked good, and his morph % is considered "normal" by their standards. SO, he and I were hoping to try medicated TI for a couple cycles and see of anything happens.
Welp turns out my RE is also concerned about something else regarding the SA. There was a note on the analysis that said something about lots of unknown cellular debris found in the sample. Apparently my RE thinks this is something to that we need to consider, because extra...gunk? can hinder the good sperm from getting to their destination, and washing it will be most beneficial for us. So although its our choice, she recommends moving forward with IUI as planned.
So day 3 of my next period, she is going to put me on Femara, and then we will go from there. Not necessarily bad news, just odd I guess. I haven't looked into the "cellular debris" thing yet, since I didn't know it was anything to be concerned about until today. Down the Google rabbit hole I go!
Okay ladies I got my progesterone level back and I have some questions. I had it taken at 6dpo because 7dpo was the 4th, and it came back at 4.6. The nurse called and said it was a little low and I should go back to taking 200mg prometrium nightly starting cd20 next cycle (don't me started on the fact that OB keeps saying cd20 even though he knows I O late and temp to confirm). I did a little bit of Dr. Google research and it sounds like 4.6 is more than just a little low but I'm trying not go down that rabbit hole. Any insight on how low 4.6 is and what I should be advocating for at my appointment at the end of the month (just with OB going to try to get RE referral so I can get on the calendar)? I feel like the 200mg might not be increasing my level enough since I still get AF while on it.
So I told MH that the RE's office said they usually don't like to do medicated TI cycles without a SA first because the drugs are really powerful (etc etc about how powerful/dangerous the drugs are), and he says: "Ok ok, what do I need to do?"
@KariAnn323 are you currently doing a medicated cycle? My RE likes to see my progesterone level above 10 nonmedicated and above 15 medicated. This past cycle my progesterone was only 10 (on a medicated cycle) so I took 200mg prometrium twice a day for the rest of the TWW. What is the reason that your OB had been doing 7dpo BW for you? I would definitely push for an RE referral especially since you're at almost 12 months trying
@leekat14 sorry to hear about the delay but I think you're right about waiting for your body to be nice and ready hopefully the time will pass quick!!
@antoto omg so soon!! Very excited for you and I think a massage is a great idea!
@saralee797-2 wow your FET is even sooner and so close to @antoto hope the time passes jock and all the BW results are right where they need to be!!
Diagnosis (If you've been): unexp
Cycle/CD: 20/20
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): wto
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) letrozole ovidrel IUI
How are things going? okay, had a consultation with my RE on Monday and he spent an hour and 15 minutes with me and DH and talked about our treatment options. He increased my letrozole this month. We also discussed injectables with IUI and IVF
Any questions? Nope
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! my brother got engaged this past weekend. We are twins and his fiancé is my college roommate they have been dating for 11 years so I'm very excited for them
@beachbunnyxo123 That is so sweet about your brother and your college roomie!! Did you guys come to any decisions about possible future injectables, or are you still just considering options?
ETA: @Sailing_Mama Admittedly I know nothing about lab numbers, but I'm willing to do some googling to try and figure them out with you (if no ladies with better knowledge can help). Which ones are you worried about?
Re: IF/Testing Weekly Check In - Week of July 3
Cycle/CD: cycle 15/CD 15
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Well, technically TWW, but IUI was a no go and I was ordered to abstain after CD12.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Was originally going to be 100mg clomid+ovidrel+IUI, but apparently Clomid and I do not mix and I overstimulated. So now I am just WFAF so we can try Femara next cycle.
How are things going? In short, shitty. I started off this cycle feeling so hopeful, but now I have nothing. It is just so fucking frustrating that I just don't even have a shot this time, and all of the time and money that went into this cycle so far was all for nothing. So basically just f*ck everything right now. Although, one plus to this situation is that apparently my insurance will cover the Femara, but I was OOP for the clomid, so at least now I get to save myself $30. Yay?
Any questions?
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! I had off Monday and Tuesday, so that was nice.
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
@antoto HOLY COW YOU ARE GETTING SO CLOSE
@purplg8r I wound up just telling my principal what was going on and she was great about it. I do worry because if we wind up moving to ivf it will be right at the beginning of the school year but I just am like "some things are time sensitive and I need to go when they say"
@AlohaKumu wow! You are getting so close
@JuneRoseRuby I know this is all so much but happy you have an appointment and will be thinking of you as you meet with the RE
AFM: IUI went ok on Monday. Question for those who have done an iui only from opk and not trigger. Did you go in the day after your surge or two days after? I surged Sunday with 2nd morning urine on a wondfo. The brought me in Monday at 1. The RE told us to have intercourse Monday night, yesterday and today to cover bases. To me that indicates iui should have been yesterday. I have a sneaky suspicion they went early because of the holiday. O well. Our timing was all messed up and we BD Sunday evening (I thought we would be scheduled for tuesday) so by the time of the iui, we only had 9.5 million motile sperm, considerably less than last month. Then DH couldn't finish the deal yesterday so I'm less than hopeful. (Sorry that got DD)
Eta: autocorrect
Together: 11/2008, married: 3/2014
DH: Type 1 Diabetes, (dx 4/15) Celiac Disease (dx 11/14), Treatment induced Neuropathy of Diabetes (dx 7/15)
DH SA: 11/16: low count and low motility
DH SA: 12/16: borderline low, count and motility
1/20/17: BFP, 1/24/17: CP
5/17:low AMH (0.89)
6/17: first IUI cycle, 50 mg clomid + ovidrel + IUI: 2 follies, BFN (count 58 million, 97% motility)
7/17: second IUI, 2.5 letrozole, OPK, IUI: 1 follie, BFN (count 9.5 million swimming- dont know percentage)
8/17: third IUI, 5.0 letrozole,
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
@saralee797-2 yay for your lining being thick enough!!! And H works evenings so he can be there if needed but I just feel more comfortable with my list of questions if I'm by myself.
@Pinky917 I'm sorry that this month was crappy! So frustrating! Sending you lots of hugs.
@WillRunForWine21i don't have any advice but FX that the timing you did works!
Cycle/CD: CD 19
Any questions?
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! I spent the beginning of the week in Nantucket and now I'm back at work. Friday I'm heading to visit my family for the weekend.
It took me a while to read through everyone's posts. I'm commenting in my heart.
I got the expected but still unpleasant call on Monday that I have to go in for more breast imaging after my mammogram a couple of weeks ago. I was warned that IF meds tend to effect breast tissue so when they compare this year's to my last exam they saw some changes which is an immediate red flag. Everything is likely fine but you just don't want to get that call. Anyway, I'm headed there in a little bit and will hopefully get a clean bill of health quickly.
Also, I'm bummed that I'm home from vacation.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@WillRunForWine21 FX crossed for you soo hard!!
@zwink1 sorry to hear about your fight
@50Wife Cleared tubes!! Good luck this cycle, I have heard read that alot of people fall PG right after the HSG clearing the way.. fx crossed
@JuneRoseRuby I'm so sorry to hear you had a tough weekend. I think azoo is tougher on our husbands than we think, and denial can be a very real protective measure for alot of people and that doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't feeling hopeless inside. MH wants me to keep tracking my cycle and letting him know when I am fertile, to which I want to be like for what?? He thinks one sperm is going to miraculously sneak through. I want to be realistic but I also know his ego is already so, so damaged. I've been trying not to let him see me upset because if for now denial is all he has to keep himself together, I want to let him have that for now while we take our next steps. Also, what is virtual azoo?? I'm still new to this world and although my brain almost melted from reading so many research studies etc. I still don't understand all the types
@AlohaKumu your wait is getting shorter and shorter!! August is next month! Keep us posted with actual dates!
@mispanda I don't have much advice/first hand experience with the medication, but I know when my RE was going to rx me Femera right before we realized we were working with MFI, he told me it would "regulate" my cycles and potentially ovulate sooner than I had been, but I also tend to ovulate late so I think that was why.
and all of the creepy internet hugs for @kiwi2628 and @Pinky917. It's ok for us to have bad days, and to feel hopeless, and angry, and bitter. Rant away when rants are needed
AFM..
Diagnosis (If you've been): azoospermia
Cycle/CD: CD 29
Any questions? Not right now
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week! Spent all weekend with friends and pools, it was a good distraction. Only working 2 days this week and taking a weekend trip to see my bff in NYC
ETA: @LeilaK9288 I feel you on the husband being in denial thing. Part of me is so glad that at least one of us is hopeful, but part of me is also like um ok let's be realistic though.
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
I hope you're able to speak with him more and he comes around! Why are men such a PITA?
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
ETA: Thank you guys for reminding me that I need to ask these kinds of questions about my treatment.
Again, thank you ladies for making me question why we hadn't had a SA yet. I guess I kinda figured they knew what they were doing. But, apparently I have to become more educated about the fertility treatment process so I can make sure they're doing the right things at the right times.
ETA: wording
ETA: I think I partly hadn't called until now because of the denial, but also partly a bit of shyness because I didn't want to be annoying and calling them before they told me to call and asking annoying questions. But I guess if I'm going to end up paying them a bazillion dollars I should make sure I get my money's worth and call them whenever I feel like it.
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
@saralee797-2 Its clearly not finished yet, but when we tore the tiles up and got all the adhesive off, this is what was underneath it.
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Edit: @Sailing_Mama beat me to it. But, I will also add. In relation to your SA issue, I actually don't find it that odd that your RE wouldn't insist on an SA before starting treatment. That's NOT to say that I don't think you should absolutely request one. I'm just saying that fertility issues are far too commonly associated with the woman having the problem, and even trained Drs are susceptible to that bias. If they had already uncovered an issue on your end, I can absolutely see them not even thinking about testing the other side. Again, I am not at all condoning it, or saying that a good Dr would do it. I'm just saying, I don't find it all that surprising tbh.
This thread is so hard to keep up with but I am thrilled for our IF unicorns!!!!
I am currently WTO with lots of ewcm today and it's H's bday so I'm pretty excited! I'm gifting him a trip to Ireland for his birthday because he's always wanted to go but I don't even know where to start with my trip research. So far I have staying in a castle and falconry on our list of things to do. Any tips??
EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
@haylsbayls I use TripAdvisor to plan all of our trips, and it hasn't let me down yet. They have some good forums if you want to ask for itinerary advice. ETA: Falconry sounds awesome.
EDD: March 24, 2018 - angel baby at 21 weeks
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
Just got back from my check-in appt with my RE. We had previously discussed IUI after my next cycle, because she was concerned about my husband's morph %. He had a urologist appt last week, and the doctor told him everything looked good, and his morph % is considered "normal" by their standards. SO, he and I were hoping to try medicated TI for a couple cycles and see of anything happens.
Welp turns out my RE is also concerned about something else regarding the SA. There was a note on the analysis that said something about lots of unknown cellular debris found in the sample. Apparently my RE thinks this is something to that we need to consider, because extra...gunk? can hinder the good sperm from getting to their destination, and washing it will be most beneficial for us. So although its our choice, she recommends moving forward with IUI as planned.
So day 3 of my next period, she is going to put me on Femara, and then we will go from there. Not necessarily bad news, just odd I guess. I haven't looked into the "cellular debris" thing yet, since I didn't know it was anything to be concerned about until today. Down the Google rabbit hole I go!
Dating: 2/2007 Married: 4/2011
TTC #1: 9/2016
*TW*
BFP #2: 3/9/2017 - CP: 3/10/2017
08/2017: DH's SA = normal
08/2017: Low progesterone (4.6) all other BW normal
11/2017: HSG Clear; Pelvic Ultrasound Normal; and AMH, FSH, and Estradiol normal
12/2017: 1,000mg Metformin
12/2017: 50mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: 100mg Clomid + TI = BFN
01/2018: RE Consult
03/2018: 5mg Letrozole + 50 units Gonal-F + 500 μg Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #3: 4/1/2018 - CP: 4/4/2018
04/2018: 5mg Letrozole + Gonal-F + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP #4: 5/2/18
Hemoglobin A1C 5.2%
TSH 2.45 mU/L
FSH 3.5 IU/L
LH 9.7 IU/L
Prolactin 12.7ug/L
Estradiol 85 pmol/L
DHEA Sulphate 10.0 umol/L
Testosterone 2.1 umol/L
The only item left pending is Androstenedione.
@leekat14 sorry to hear about the delay but I think you're right about waiting for your body to be nice and ready hopefully the time will pass quick!!
@antoto omg so soon!! Very excited for you and I think a massage is a great idea!
@saralee797-2 wow your FET is even sooner and so close to @antoto hope the time passes jock and all the BW results are right where they need to be!!
Cycle/CD: 20/20
letrozole ovidrel IUI
okay, had a consultation with my RE on Monday and he spent an hour and 15 minutes with me and DH and talked about our treatment options. He increased my letrozole this month. We also discussed injectables with IUI and IVF
Any questions? Nope
GTKY: Tell me about something fun that you're doing this week!
my brother got engaged this past weekend. We are twins and his fiancé is my college roommate they have been dating for 11 years so I'm very excited for them
ETA: @Sailing_Mama Admittedly I know nothing about lab numbers, but I'm willing to do some googling to try and figure them out with you (if no ladies with better knowledge can help). Which ones are you worried about?