Also, @gusgus14 has your H had a Semen Analysis done? If not I would highly recommend you have him get in to have one done ASAP. Again, pretty silly to have you on treatment if potentially it's he who needs it.
@antoto - I don't feel like you're being mean! And I totally understand. However, as I've mentioned my doctor is only doing 3 rounds of clomid and then she will be referring me to a specialist (I have to have a referral to get an appointment). Since this is round 3, there's not really anything for me to do other than wait out the next week and a half. If AF shows up, I'll be getting a referral to the specialist . And yes, he had an SA several months ago and he is definitely not the one with the issue.
Aaaaaand literally just got a text that my friend in 2 months pregnant. They tried for 3 months. Happy for her, but I was right- it emphasizes how empty and sad I am and how helpless I feel. This sucks a saggy tit.
@RatParade That tidbit about the sperm cannot be true. I've had six IUI's and with each, H had a report on his sperm and every report was different. We don't have MFI at all, so let's say one time he had 54 million prewash and 36 million post wash. And then the next time he would have 82 million prewash and 79 million post wash. So it's confusing when you say there's the same amount of sperm in each ejaculation. Maybe I'm reading your meaning wrong?
@sunniegrly Brave New World is one of my favorite books.
There is just so much depth to it. But because I know you’re on a mental health
journey, I would caution you to be in a good place when you finish it. Spoiler
for more information if you don’t mind book spoilers. Hugs for tough decisions
balancing religion and the desire to have biological children. FX it doesn’t
come to that.
The book ends in a death/suicide. It doesn’t get graphic and
is mostly allusion, but if that’s a trigger, it might be something to shy away
from.
@shortstack930 Hugs for cycle 17. It’s awesome that you and
YH can love and support each other through all of this. Can’t wait to hear all
about that first RE appointment
@magnolia131 Ugh, I feel those emotional ebbs and flows. I’m
sorry that money is another roadblock. It’s not fair that on top of trying to
beat mother nature, we have to worry about finances too. Hopefully you and YH
find the right answer for both of you.
@mrsdaddario Good news on the insurance front! FX they
process everything soon.
@beachbunnyxo123 No problem! Knowledge is power It’s so
funny how IF turns good news (like EWCM) into whatever and bad news (like AF)
into a celebration of progress.
@gusgus14 FX you don’t need to move to an RE, but if you do,
we’re all here. Everyone’s IF journey is so different. It’s hard not to jump
ahead and worry about expensive testing and procedures right off the bat. Take
it one step at a time the best you can.
@vflux33 I hope time moves fast for you too and you can get
off the bench soon with good news
@RatParade I don’t know if I recognize you! Love the gif and
FX you find the right solution with your RE soon.
@kiwi2628 Hugs hugs hugs friend. Today sucks monkey ass. Take
care of yourself and react however you need to.
Me: 23 | DH: 30
Married November 2016 TTC #1 November 2016
Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS April 2017 50mg Clomid June 2017 BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@vflux33 To be honest, I never heard of a mock transfer until I went to my IVF consult. It actually seems really unnecessary in my case since every procedure and IUI has gone smoothly for me. Call me jaded but I sometimes wonder whether the mock transfer is just another money maker for them. But I also know I am lucky. Every body is different and not everyone has a clear "roadmap" in. So, the RE wanted to practice with the IVF catheter to avoid any potential pitfalls when it is time for the embryo transfer. At this point, I thought what is one more appointment if it might avoid something bad from happening when the stakes are high? @Shortstack06 May 15th will be here before you know it!! @magnolia131 thanks girl! I am excited. I hear you on the money piece. It is definitely part of the equation. IF is so stressful as is I think it is smart to consider that aspect as it will only pile on something else if you both don't feel financially ready. @RatParade this stuff definitely takes time to process and it is okay if you aren't ready to jump right into IVF just yet! Also, welcome!
Edited because I realized I'm not in cycle 18, but 19. *sniffle*
@RatParade I remember you! It's good to see you, but I'm so sorry you're here. Hope you'll have a good, solid plan soon!
@laurad75 As always, you captured my feelings perfectly. I'm starting to feel that we are just doing all this to say we tried everything (short of IVF in our case, anyway) but will come away with nothing. I hope we're both wrong. Hugs, honey.
Diagnosis: DOR, AMA
Cycle/CD: 19 (13 AL)/CD14
Status: WTO
What are you doing this cycle: Probably our last natural cycle, preparing to freeze OH's swimmers to eventually do at home IUI with a local midwife. Acupuncture, tons of supplements, going down to pound town.
How are things going: We have our appointment to set up the freezing process tomorrow. OH will submit a sample to give us an idea how many vials can come from each. We'll sign a buttload of paperwork. I'm starting to feel nervous that this is lowering our chances even further, but we've got to get him on to testosterone replacement. He's miserable, and now that we're getting close, he's having an even harder time. He's been such a trooper through all of this, and we're both past ready for him to feel better. I'm also nervous about what is involved in retrieving samples each cycle. Ugh.
This sums up my feelings about the whole process...freezing sperm, TTC, all of it:
On the plus side, after having the flu for a week, I'm finally starting to feel like myself. I have no idea if I'll be able to tell from my chart when I O since I had a fever for like 4 days (and OH had to start abstinence yesterday afternoon, right in FW, so we totally did it yesterday morning), and I've taken NyQuil and DayQuil and whatever and IDGAF because I felt like doo doo. And I'll probably regret it when AF shows in a couple of weeks...but I'm seriously happy to be back in the real world.
Any questions: Nope
GTKY: I would probably take a classic like Jane Eyre or Gone With the Wind because they are always good for another reading, and are super long and involved. Foo Fighters Colour and the Shape because I'm a huge Foo fan, and that album is such a great listen. The food is a tough one...probably lots of bread so I can make sandwiches out of whatever I find to eat, LOL.
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@mrsdaddario I think I misused the words "same amount". What I meant (and what the RE was saying) is that having multiple ejaculations doesn't deplete the sperm count. I was worried that having sex every day would lower our chances because DH would need some extra regrouping time, but the RE was assuring me that while the total fluid amount might decrease the second time, the amount of sperm ejaculated isn't impacted. Does that make sense?
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
@mrsdaddario I think I misused the words "same amount". What I meant (and what the RE was saying) is that having multiple ejaculations doesn't deplete the sperm count. I was worried that having sex every day would lower our chances because DH would need some extra regrouping time, but the RE was assuring me that while the total fluid amount might decrease the second time, the amount of sperm ejaculated isn't impacted. Does that make sense?
Hmmmm the specialists in The Great Sperm Race said that the number does decrease if you have sex every day. I don't think it's by a hugely significant amount, but typically every other day is ideal for that specific reason.
Hmmmm the specialists in The Great Sperm Race said that the number does decrease if you have sex every day. I don't think it's by a hugely significant amount, but typically every other day is ideal for that specific reason.
Well this is a bummer. He specifically told us every day is better, even to have sex the morning AND evening after a positive OPK, so twice in that day. I guess in the end it doesn't really matter, at this point I'm pretty sure we've done every possible combination of timing.
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
@Anna_1021 So sorry for Cd1. I am glad you got yourself a treat at the grocery store!!
@saralee797-2 In regards to your comment about being overstimulated because of your AMH #s, is that because your AMH was high? Mine is quite high as well, and when we finally get on the IVF train this summer, since I have never taken any drugs to ovulate, I was wondering if I would be prone to over-stimulation as well. #worryingaboutthingsIdontneedtoworryaboutyet
@Aurora1973 I hear you on the frustrations of sperm. I asked MH if he wanted to practice jizzing into a cup so that he would be a pro when it came time for his repeat SA next month. He passed on the idea, but it would make me feel more comfortable!
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Hmmmm the specialists in The Great Sperm Race said that the number does decrease if you have sex every day. I don't think it's by a hugely significant amount, but typically every other day is ideal for that specific reason.
Well this is a bummer. He specifically told us every day is better, even to have sex the morning AND evening after a positive OPK, so twice in that day. I guess in the end it doesn't really matter, at this point I'm pretty sure we've done every possible combination of timing.
Yeah I reallllllly didn't say that to make you bummed out or anything! Do not beat yourself up. You do the best you can and all you can. Even if the count drops by a bit in most cases that's not going to be the thing that makes the cycle unsuccessful. *hugs*
@JuneRoseRuby that # is basically my whole life lol! Yes my AMH is over 7 and my doctor correlates that with a high risk of getting OHSS. Basically, my high AMH indicates I have a lot of eggs > will produce a lot of follices > will be overstimulated. I don't know how much completed research is out there on this but I do know my clinic is doing a study on the link right now. Anecdotally that is what she is seeing with patients who have high AMH. Make sense? Hopefully it is nothing you have to worry about though!!
@saralee797-2 totally makes sense. Yeah I was over 9! That's is why I was asking because I am worried since we will go right into IVF and I've never done any medicated cycles before so I feel like it is so risky since I have no idea how my body will respond. It doesn't help that we haven't seen the RE since January since we are working with the urologist right now since it is all MFI for us. Thanks for the insight!
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@RatParade and @antoto I think about it this way (assuming you don't have sperm count issues): if the number goes down but not significantly, wouldn't the TOTAL number you are throwing at your reproductive tract still increase if you go every day or even multiple times a day? For example, let's say the first day there are 80 million, and the second it drops to 55 million, and the following day is 40 million (I'm picking these numbers out of the air, kinda based on @mrsdaddario's example). That would be a total of 175 million in 3 days. Even if the numbers were equal skipping a day, say 80 million on the first and third days, you'd only have 160 million that way. It seems to me that either way could be effective since the numbers aren't super different, but that when I can, I'd err on the side of frequency because not only are the numbers higher total, but you're also closer to potentially getting them in there at the optimum time. Just something to think about; I'm not a scientist nor a mathematician, so this is all very layman...
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
Hi ladies I'm back after a bump break. Kind of a little depressing when you get a notification for your 2 year badge from the bump...cry! But i'm happy to be back!
Diagnosis (If you've been): Mild MFI (low morph)
Cycle/CD: 23/13
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Just a natural cycle this month, sort of NTNP but I know my body well enough by now to know when I'm ovulating so we make a point of hitting at least a few fertile days every month.
We FINALLY got an RE appt after 7+ months wait. It turns out that my gynecologist's office didn't send the referral. I was LIVID!!! I marched down there and yelled at them, basically in tears, babbling, yelling, not caring what anyone else waiting in the office thought. Not my finest moment but you can't play with IF people's emotions like that! So the RE office was nice enough to fit me in for a cancellation appointment given my circumstances otherwise we would've been looking at waiting another 4-6 months.
Appt is only 2 weeks away now. I'm looking forward to finally getting some answers from a specialist. I'm ready to start some treatments!
How are things going? Good. DH and I have our ups and downs but its been a lot of ups lately. This despite multiple pregnancy announcements from our friends.
Any questions?
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
Book: Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett Music: Beatles best hits Food: Steel cut oatmeal
Me: 29 years old, DH:31 years old
TTC #1 since July 2015
SA Feb 2016 & May 2016: Excellent count and motility, 3% morphology Surgery Dec 2016: submucosal fibroid removed Awaiting RE appointment
Oh man I cannot math lol but regardless of what the answer is, I don't see the harm in HIO as much as possible if there are not MFI. And even if there is I don't know much about how the numbers game works. All I can speak on is our experience and that was our experience. Granted, those numbers came from separate cycles each time. Not back to back days. Anyway, I would, like you are, listen to your RE. Because I certainly don't have a degree in making babies LOL.
Also, this is totally random, but I follow this really cute girl on Instagram who is just diving into working with an RE. And I keep answering questions she posts (to the best of my ability), and I so want to say "Join is on TB!!" But her account of public and I don't want ALL of the ladies coming over here lol.
@RatParade I move slowly too. My H wants to try IUI first as well, I'm not convinced it will be super helpful for us (his issue is primarily morph related), but like you said, why not. I'm sorry you're dealing with the emotional roller coaster of the initial appointment and info.
I'm intrigued by what your RE told you. I've never heard that before, in fact I was always told the opposite. That numbers (not just count but motility and morph as well) can be negatively impacted by frequent intercourse...which is why they generally have you abstain for at least 3 days before an SA. We've always had timing struggles, partially because we were trying not to deplete partially due to my irregular cycles...then again, that hasn't worked out for us, so maybe we should try your RE's plan, lol.
@kiwi2628 Ugh do I hear you on that feeling. *TW I posted about this a while back when I first found out, but my sister and BFF both told me they were pregnant in the same week, with their 2nd, and they are due literally days apart. Ouch. *
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Maybe testing, we'll see if H gets his butt in gear this cycle.
How are things going? Eh, the last couple of days have been rough emotionally/mentally for me. I never expect anything to go differently anymore, but that doesn't change the fact that a fresh cycle is a fresh hurt. I checked out our new insurance coverage and it is exactly the same as the old. Word. For. Word. I'm not at all surprised, but it 0 coverage still sucks. Non-TTC stuff is getting to me as well, but I just need to snap out of my funk here.
Any questions? Nope.
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
Book - I'd probably bring one of the very pretty anthologies on my bookshelf. Grimm Fairytales most likely. Music - I'd bring one of mycold mixed CDs from HS. Oldies, and variety. Win win. Food - Ice cream. Not practical and I have no idea how you keep it frozen on a deserted island, but hey, this is all hypothetical, right?
ETA: I forgot to finish my post...it's obviously a Monday.
I can't math, but I found people who did studies who can math. I found 2 studies that looked at sex frequency during FW and pregnancy. The first study used daily urine tests (scientists analyzed the pee) to pinpoint O and self-reported sex acts. Here are the stats for sex occurring from -5 to 0 (no pregnancies resulted with +1 timing):
1 time - 27% cycles resulted in pregnancy
2 times - 28% cycles resulted in pregnancy
3 times - 35% cycles resulted in pregnancy
4 times - 49% cycles resulted in pregnancy
5 times - 26% cycles resulted in pregnancy
6 times - 11% cycles resulted in pregnancy
Pregnancies only resulted when sex occurred -5 to 0 so 6 days
Here's the second study. It was much easier to read then the first one.
If you have sex on -2, -1 or O you have the best chance of getting pregnant
Sex ED had a slightly better chance of pregnancy then EOD
Here's the breakdown. They give number of cycles recorded and number of pregnancies that occurred and I used that to get the %
1 time - 26% cycles resulted in pregnancy
2 times - 28% cycles resulted in pregnancy
3 times - 38% cycles resulted in pregnancy
4 times - 36% cycles resulted in pregnancy
5 times - 30% cycles resulted in pregnancy
6 times - 10% cycles resulted in pregnancy
For both studies the 6 times had 9 or 10 cycles and only one pregnancy so it's a small sample size. BUT both studies do show a bit of a trend down if couples have sex every day during FW so I do wonder if part of that is sperm count.
timing of sexual intercourse in relation to ovulation — effects on the probability of conception, survival of the pregnancy, and sex of the baby
Allen J. Wilcox, M.D., Ph.D., Clarice R. Weinberg, Ph.D., and Donna D. Baird, Ph.D.
N Engl J Med 1995; 333:1517-1521December 7, 1995DOI: 10.1056/NEJM199512073332301
@antoto I'm not sure, but what seems more likely to me is that it tapers down bc at a certain point, those 5x, 6x couples are just not going to get ku that cycle regardless. Maybe TI will eventually work for rhem, maybe it won't but we all know people who fit in that categoru where no amount of BD was going to cut it. :/ I would think that proportion of those type of couples is going to increase inversely as you get to the ass-end of that data. But just a thought.
@kiwi2628 That's tough news to swallow. Hugs, girl.
@mrsdaddario Sorry to hear you're struggling with insurance. I hope you are assured you're on the plan soon and that you get your insurance card. Don't panic yet!
@Anna_1021 Much hugs to you. Sorry for CD1, and sorry for the crying in the bathroom at work. :-( Sometimes working through IF is hard...
@laurad75 That's great you have a lot to distract you right now. Besides getting KU, lots to distract you from thinking about getting KU is the next best thing.
@magnolia131 Deciding when to move forward with IVF -for whatever reasons, emotionally or financially, is tough. I feel like I'm in a bit of a similar situation where financially it would be better to wait a few more months, but I feel like the wait is torture. And I know it's just a few more months, but I'm getting really impatient. Anyway, I just wanted to say I know how you feel. And don't judge yourself too much on that urge to move forward with IVF sooner than may be the *ideal* time financially. You've waiting a really long time already! And I totally get waiting "just a few more months" is painful.
@juneroseruby Just hugs. That's all I've got. Waiting is the worst.
@jmr1515 Yikes! So glad you were able to get into an RE appointment without that long wait again, but that sucks you had to go through all that anxiety and all those tears.
Diagnosis (If you've been): NIR PCOS
Cycle/CD: month 15/cycle 7/CD 5
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) letrozole + Gonal-F + progesterone + acupuncture + TI
How are things going? I'm getting acupuncture tomorrow which I'm pretty excited about because I find it relaxing. This is also the part of my cycle where I feel the best as it's too early in the cycle for anything to have been messed up yet. My follie check is on Thursday, where I assume they will see that my follies are stubbornly not growing per usual and then we will pull out the big guns a la Gonal-F.
Any questions?
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring? I love that so many people here would bring Harry Potter. I'd bring that too, but I'm not sure which one. Probably the 7th. For music, I'd bring a CD with all the best, cheesy party dance songs so I could dance and work out to them. For food, I am stealing @JuneRoseRuby's idea and bringing Reese Peanut Butter Eggs. I am too ashamed to say how many I ate this Easter season.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Nothing this cycle
How are things going? Well I'm on CD 28 with no O or AF in sight so it could definitely be going better.
Any questions? Not yet...
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring? Tuck Everlasting by Natalie Babbitt, Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd, and an endless supply of non molding French bread lol
OMG it's been busy here today. I hate that I can only be on mobile because trying to comment to everyone makes my head spin!
Diagnosis (If you've been): endometriosis
Cycle/CD: 17 or 18...CD 3
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): tww
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Clomid +trigger, acupuncture, beginning some IVF testing
How are things going? Freaking awesome. Went to CNY Fertility today to have our initial consult. I love it there, super informative and answered all of our questions/concerns. For any of you that were considering traveling for them, my initial opinion is that it might be worth it! When I was checking out I clarified with the nurse that we are planning on IVF and when I had to call, the girl next to me was like "do the IVF, you won't regret it". It's stupid but she was so happy that it was comforting that we were making a good decision. We did blood work before we left and the Dr even called me after we left to make sure when I read the results online I knew the positive was related to the trigger shot. I thought that was really a step above what I was expecting.
Any questions? Not at the moment!
@kiwi2628 We talked numbers today and it's amazing how depressing it is!
@mrsdaddario I am so glad they are sorting out the insurance stuff. What a headache!
@Anna_1021 Hugs to you today. It's so easy to get hopeful
@laurad75 yay for distractions, I hope the break is a good recharge for you.
@antoto Thanks for all those stats, full of information!!!
@magnolia131 I hate waiting too! This whole process has been waiting and now I just want to get things going!
@zwink1 I also have zero coverage and it sucks. Seems pills are covered, injections aren't. At this point we are putting all of our money to IVF...The success rates of IUIs aren't enough for us.
@madspunk I have an acupuncture appointment tomorrow too. I love the chance to relax in the middle of the day. A nice break from the office!
@kiwi2628 I'm sorry you got such tough news. It really never gets easier, even if you know the person has started trying. Just last week I went to a friend's play and had to stare at her "we weren't even trying" bump for two hours.
@Anna_1021 so sorry for CD1. Don't be so hard on yourself! We have all been there...just last month I convinced myself that it was our miracle month because my boobs were a little more tender than usual...obviously I was wrong! Good luck on your upcoming IUI. Sending all the good vibes!
Me: 29 years old, DH:31 years old
TTC #1 since July 2015
SA Feb 2016 & May 2016: Excellent count and motility, 3% morphology Surgery Dec 2016: submucosal fibroid removed Awaiting RE appointment
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Meeting new RE tomorrow
How are things going? Better than last week. I have been researching, reading books, and found a podcast called "Beat Infertility" that I have been listening too. (I searched the boards here about it after I found it and found that people were talking about it a year ago). It has helped me understand better how to be my own advocate. Going to try to put those skills to use tomorrow at the appointment. Hopefully we will have a game plan for next steps.
Any questions? Not right now.
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
Oh this is hard, book to bring not sure, I am an avid reader, but don’t usually reread books. Maybe a really large biography, those take me longer to read and having someone else’s life story might be interesting for a year. Food chocolate chip cookies for sure. Music something happy to dance too for when I get in a funk.
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@kiwi2628 having friends get KU quickly is hard, now that we have been through 19 months of it, it hasn’t gotten any easier. Hope you get your test results soon! I was going through stats with my H last night, and he was like man this is too depressing. Just saw your follow up message too, oh girl that hurts! Happy to hear it was a text and that you knew she was trying, it doesn’t make it hurt less, but I hope you had some privacy to feel what you needed too before having to face her.
@LoveInDC Hope this cycle passes quickly for you so you can get started on the medicated cycle if that is what you are fxing for! And fettuccine alfredo also sounds delicious!
@mrsdaddario insurance mess up are such a headache! Happy to hear you are already seeing work being done to get it sorted out!
@Anna_1021 Blasted CD1 and ugly cries! Give yourself time and space to work through the feels of it all. Sorry! And I feel you about the weight gain, such a dang emotional rollercoaster this IF and to try to care about being “beach” ready…just not happening this spring.
@antoto I hope all of the on again off again (bcp) goes smoothly and hopefully you get some good sleep during that time! Do you happen to have any posters that don’t refer to the person posting as having IF? I would like to raise awareness on social media, just not sure if we are ready to share with the world.
@shortstack930 It is good to hear you are enjoying your NTNP month! Hope you continue to be refreshed and reset for your next phase.
@magnolia131 I feel you on the financial saviness vs the feeling of wanting to make it to the finish line. My H and I go back and forth on this one as well. Hope the conversations continue to go well!
@JuneRoseRuby Sorry to hear you feel like you aren’t working towards the goal of getting KU. I was there last week. I hope you find new hope!
@vflux33 Good to hear this week is starting off a bit better! Hope YH’s results come in soon! In the meantime, get to feeling better!
@RatParade It can be a tough pill to swallow, especially when it means IVF might be your only option. Give yourself time to work through it all!
@leekat14 yay for a good consultation! And for random encouragement from a stranger!
@JuneRoseRuby No problem!! Sounds like we are in the same boat. I will say that my body responded fairly normally to Clomid and Femara. I always had two leading follies with Clomid and one with Femara so nothing crazy. I don't really know what to expect with the injectibles. I'll be sure to share any research on how to prevent OHSS. Worst case we will just wait for my body to recover and do an FET later. I have heard that FET success rates can be higher because your body has had the time to recover so I am not against it. Even if I do want to be KU yesterday.
Thanks everyone. I took yesterday to wallow in ball of self-pity, and I was really good at it.
@LoveInDC the only reason I picked the sixth is because the island would only be for one year (I thought way too hard about it, lol)
@mrsdaddario ugh, so annoying about insurance. I am glad you are figuring it out though. And I feel you on waiting for an AF you know is coming, even though, in theory, its too early to know. Its just depressing and dumb. Hugs lady.
@Anna_1021 I am so sorry IUI didnt work. Hugs hugs hugs to you
@GG620 not only are we cycle buddies now, but we are hoping to start meds/IUI in June also!
@beachbunnyxo123 that is EXACTLY what it feels like- it feels like a race, but I did not sign up for this race! I did not want to be racing, lol, but it feels like we are all trying to be pregnant at the same time, but I will fall behind in a cloud of dust...and then probably fall in a hole and die (I may be a tad dramatic). Also YAY for O yesterday!
@RatParade rofl at that gif, that is also exactly what it feels like! I am so sorry you are feeling down about results. Take all the time you need, but the good news is you have a plan and a goal and that always makes it easier to power through
@jmr1515 welcome back (sadly, obviously). And yay for an RE appt! Where do you live that it takes that long for an appt? I am sorry it is such a long process for you
@madspunk have fun with acupuncture today! I love getting it done- it totally zones me
@leekat14 omg the story of the girl telling you to do it made my cold dead heart warm and fuzzy. That is seriously so uplifting!
AFM, I got an email this AM about our genetic testing- I am a carrier for 2 recessive genes that cause severe abnormalities, so now my H has to be tested for them. They are both exceedingly rare, so I doubt it is the cause of our IF or that my H will be a carrier but, you know, better safe than sorry
@mschanandlerbong1214 why do you think you belong in an IF thread if you're only on cycle 1 with no testing/treatment in sight or the need for it? I really am curious. I know you've been on TB longer than your current 28 day cycle - have you been NTNP/benched? I can't remember and I'm mobile so I can't check.
I'm also wondering why you think your borderline PCOS? Do you have very irregular cycles?
Lastly, all my questions stem from sheer curiosity and this thread is filled with extremely encouraging and amazing women, so if you do need to be here then you will find the support you need. But I would never understand why someone would want to call infertility if it's not needed in any way shape or form. Also, ending your sentence on not knowing if this will go off well with a "lol" rubbed me the wrong way. These women, including myself, have been battling heartache, treatment and months of waiting, not something to laugh or joke about wondering if you fit in.
@mschanandlerbong1214 why do you think you belong in an IF thread if you're only on cycle 1 with no testing/treatment in sight or the need for it? I really am curious. I know you've been on TB longer than your current 28 day cycle - have you been NTNP/benched? I can't remember and I'm mobile so I can't check.
I'm also wondering why you think your borderline PCOS? Do you have very irregular cycles?
Lastly, all my questions stem from sheer curiosity and this thread is filled with extremely encouraging and amazing women, so if you do need to be here then you will find the support you need. But I would never understand why someone would want to call infertility if it's not needed in any way shape or form. Also, ending your sentence on not knowing if this will go off well with a "lol" rubbed me the wrong way. These women, including myself, have been battling heartache, treatment and months of waiting, not something to laugh or joke about wondering if you fit in.
Oh my goodness. That lol was totally not intentional! I have my text prediction on and I've been adding words without realizing it. I definitely don't think IF is a joke at all and would never intentionally hurt anyone.
I was diagnosed borderline PCOS after testing I had before DS2. I have a lot of the symptoms (cysts, unexplained/sudden weight gain, irregular and very heavy menses) but my blood work comes back borderline every time - not totally normal but not definitively PCOS. Since this this is my first time TTC my ob wanted to try 6mos unmedicated before we start metformin (which I was on when DS1&2 were conceived.)
This is part of why I don't know if this is an ok place for me to post. It was suggested by someone (I can't remember who) when I asked in another thread about PCOS and was told it's discussed here. Definitely not trying to step on any toes and will gladly step back from here if I'm not welcome at this time.
@mschanandlerbong1214 ( cc'ing @TravelingCouple ) Jumping in here because I'm the one who referred you to this thread. From what I remember, you were asking basic questions about PCOS and fertility on the Weekly Randoms thread. The ladies here would be able to answer those questions and point you in the direction of helpful resources. However, if you're not actively going through testing or medicated cycles yet, you don't need to participate in the "check-in" portion as most of it doesn't pertain to you.
Me: 23 | DH: 30
Married November 2016 TTC #1 November 2016
Dx Anovulatory/NIR PCOS April 2017 50mg Clomid June 2017 BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@mschanandlerbong1214 Oh ok, I missed your post about that elsewhere. Glad your OB is working with you.
There is a wealth of knowledge on this board, it's just helpful if we know your history. Also, I didn't see you post any questions in your OP so that's why I was confused as to why you were checking in here.
@antoto that study is really interesting. I've heard so many different things RE sex EOD vs ED. FF states that O-2 is the best day for TTC sex in one their Daily Tips.
@mschanandlerbong1214 My RE has also dubbed me as having "mild PCOS" - I have cysts and very irregular cycles (until recently hooray) but not super hairy/crazy weight gain. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
Re: IF/Testing Weekly Check-in 4/24
Aaaaaand literally just got a text that my friend in 2 months pregnant. They tried for 3 months. Happy for her, but I was right- it emphasizes how empty and sad I am and how helpless I feel. This sucks a saggy tit.
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Me: 28 Him: 30
Married: 11/15/14
TTC: 02/2016
IF DX: MFI (low count & morphology) & mild PCOS
June 2016 BFP - MC @8w2d
August 2016 BFP - MC @6w1d
June 2017 - 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP 7/6/17!!
Beta #1 = 422 (14dpo), Beta #2 = 810, prog - 12.3 (16dpo), Beta #3 = 5023, prog - 18.9 (20dpo)
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@sunniegrly Brave New World is one of my favorite books. There is just so much depth to it. But because I know you’re on a mental health journey, I would caution you to be in a good place when you finish it. Spoiler for more information if you don’t mind book spoilers. Hugs for tough decisions balancing religion and the desire to have biological children. FX it doesn’t come to that.
@shortstack930 Hugs for cycle 17. It’s awesome that you and YH can love and support each other through all of this. Can’t wait to hear all about that first RE appointment
@magnolia131 Ugh, I feel those emotional ebbs and flows. I’m sorry that money is another roadblock. It’s not fair that on top of trying to beat mother nature, we have to worry about finances too. Hopefully you and YH find the right answer for both of you.
@mrsdaddario Good news on the insurance front! FX they process everything soon.
@beachbunnyxo123 No problem! Knowledge is power
It’s so
funny how IF turns good news (like EWCM) into whatever and bad news (like AF)
into a celebration of progress.
@gusgus14 FX you don’t need to move to an RE, but if you do, we’re all here. Everyone’s IF journey is so different. It’s hard not to jump ahead and worry about expensive testing and procedures right off the bat. Take it one step at a time the best you can.
@vflux33 I hope time moves fast for you too and you can get off the bench soon with good news
@RatParade I don’t know if I recognize you! Love the gif and FX you find the right solution with your RE soon.
@kiwi2628 Hugs hugs hugs friend. Today sucks monkey ass. Take care of yourself and react however you need to.
TTC #1 November 2016
50mg Clomid June 2017
BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
@Shortstack06 May 15th will be here before you know it!!
@magnolia131 thanks girl! I am excited. I hear you on the money piece. It is definitely part of the equation. IF is so stressful as is I think it is smart to consider that aspect as it will only pile on something else if you both don't feel financially ready.
@RatParade this stuff definitely takes time to process and it is okay if you aren't ready to jump right into IVF just yet! Also, welcome!
@RatParade I remember you! It's good to see you, but I'm so sorry you're here. Hope you'll have a good, solid plan soon!
@laurad75 As always, you captured my feelings perfectly. I'm starting to feel that we are just doing all this to say we tried everything (short of IVF in our case, anyway) but will come away with nothing. I hope we're both wrong. Hugs, honey.
Diagnosis: DOR, AMA
Cycle/CD: 19 (13 AL)/CD14
Status: WTO
What are you doing this cycle: Probably our last natural cycle, preparing to freeze OH's swimmers to eventually do at home IUI with a local midwife. Acupuncture, tons of supplements, going down to pound town.
How are things going: We have our appointment to set up the freezing process tomorrow. OH will submit a sample to give us an idea how many vials can come from each. We'll sign a buttload of paperwork. I'm starting to feel nervous that this is lowering our chances even further, but we've got to get him on to testosterone replacement. He's miserable, and now that we're getting close, he's having an even harder time. He's been such a trooper through all of this, and we're both past ready for him to feel better. I'm also nervous about what is involved in retrieving samples each cycle. Ugh.
This sums up my feelings about the whole process...freezing sperm, TTC, all of it:
On the plus side, after having the flu for a week, I'm finally starting to feel like myself. I have no idea if I'll be able to tell from my chart when I O since I had a fever for like 4 days (and OH had to start abstinence yesterday afternoon, right in FW, so we totally did it yesterday morning), and I've taken NyQuil and DayQuil and whatever and IDGAF because I felt like doo doo. And I'll probably regret it when AF shows in a couple of weeks...but I'm seriously happy to be back in the real world.
Any questions: Nope
GTKY: I would probably take a classic like Jane Eyre or Gone With the Wind because they are always good for another reading, and are super long and involved. Foo Fighters Colour and the Shape because I'm a huge Foo fan, and that album is such a great listen. The food is a tough one...probably lots of bread so I can make sandwiches out of whatever I find to eat, LOL.
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
@saralee797-2 In regards to your comment about being overstimulated because of your AMH #s, is that because your AMH was high? Mine is quite high as well, and when we finally get on the IVF train this summer, since I have never taken any drugs to ovulate, I was wondering if I would be prone to over-stimulation as well. #worryingaboutthingsIdontneedtoworryaboutyet
@Aurora1973 I hear you on the frustrations of sperm. I asked MH if he wanted to practice jizzing into a cup so that he would be a pro when it came time for his repeat SA next month. He passed on the idea, but it would make me feel more comfortable!
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
Diagnosis (If you've been): Mild MFI (low morph)
Cycle/CD: 23/13
We FINALLY got an RE appt after 7+ months wait. It turns out that my gynecologist's office didn't send the referral. I was LIVID!!! I marched down there and yelled at them, basically in tears, babbling, yelling, not caring what anyone else waiting in the office thought. Not my finest moment but you can't play with IF people's emotions like that! So the RE office was nice enough to fit me in for a cancellation appointment given my circumstances otherwise we would've been looking at waiting another 4-6 months.
Appt is only 2 weeks away now. I'm looking forward to finally getting some answers from a specialist. I'm ready to start some treatments!
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
Music: Beatles best hits
Food: Steel cut oatmeal
Surgery Dec 2016: submucosal fibroid removed
Awaiting RE appointment
Oh man I cannot math lol but regardless of what the answer is, I don't see the harm in HIO as much as possible if there are not MFI. And even if there is I don't know much about how the numbers game works. All I can speak on is our experience and that was our experience. Granted, those numbers came from separate cycles each time. Not back to back days. Anyway, I would, like you are, listen to your RE. Because I certainly don't have a degree in making babies LOL.
Also, this is totally random, but I follow this really cute girl on Instagram who is just diving into working with an RE. And I keep answering questions she posts (to the best of my ability), and I so want to say "Join is on TB!!" But her account of public and I don't want ALL of the ladies coming over here lol.
I'm intrigued by what your RE told you. I've never heard that before, in fact I was always told the opposite. That numbers (not just count but motility and morph as well) can be negatively impacted by frequent intercourse...which is why they generally have you abstain for at least 3 days before an SA. We've always had timing struggles, partially because we were trying not to deplete partially due to my irregular cycles...then again, that hasn't worked out for us, so maybe we should try your RE's plan, lol.
@kiwi2628 Ugh do I hear you on that feeling. *TW I posted about this a while back when I first found out, but my sister and BFF both told me they were pregnant in the same week, with their 2nd, and they are due literally days apart. Ouch. *
Diagnosis (If you've been): MFI & ovulatory dysfunction
Cycle/CD: 18 (maybe)/5
Maybe testing, we'll see if H gets his butt in gear this cycle.
Eh, the last couple of days have been rough emotionally/mentally for me. I never expect anything to go differently anymore, but that doesn't change the fact that a fresh cycle is a fresh hurt. I checked out our new insurance coverage and it is exactly the same as the old. Word. For. Word. I'm not at all surprised, but it 0 coverage still sucks. Non-TTC stuff is getting to me as well, but I just need to snap out of my funk here.
Nope.
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
Book - I'd probably bring one of the very pretty anthologies on my bookshelf. Grimm Fairytales most likely.
Music - I'd bring one of mycold mixed CDs from HS. Oldies, and variety. Win win.
Food - Ice cream. Not practical and I have no idea how you keep it frozen on a deserted island, but hey, this is all hypothetical, right?
ETA: I forgot to finish my post...it's obviously a Monday.
1 time - 27% cycles resulted in pregnancy
2 times - 28% cycles resulted in pregnancy
3 times - 35% cycles resulted in pregnancy
4 times - 49% cycles resulted in pregnancy
5 times - 26% cycles resulted in pregnancy
6 times - 11% cycles resulted in pregnancy
Pregnancies only resulted when sex occurred -5 to 0 so 6 days
Here's the second study. It was much easier to read then the first one.
If you have sex on -2, -1 or O you have the best chance of getting pregnant
Sex ED had a slightly better chance of pregnancy then EOD
Here's the breakdown. They give number of cycles recorded and number of pregnancies that occurred and I used that to get the %
1 time - 26% cycles resulted in pregnancy
2 times - 28% cycles resulted in pregnancy
3 times - 38% cycles resulted in pregnancy
4 times - 36% cycles resulted in pregnancy
5 times - 30% cycles resulted in pregnancy
6 times - 10% cycles resulted in pregnancy
For both studies the 6 times had 9 or 10 cycles and only one pregnancy so it's a small sample size. BUT both studies do show a bit of a trend down if couples have sex every day during FW so I do wonder if part of that is sperm count.
timing of sexual intercourse in relation to ovulation — effects on the probability of conception, survival of the pregnancy, and sex of the baby
Allen J. Wilcox, M.D., Ph.D., Clarice R. Weinberg, Ph.D., and Donna D. Baird, Ph.D.
N Engl J Med 1995; 333:1517-1521December 7, 1995DOI: 10.1056/NEJM199512073332301
I can't gif-shrug on mobile, but it's there.
@mrsdaddario Sorry to hear you're struggling with insurance. I hope you are assured you're on the plan soon and that you get your insurance card. Don't panic yet!
@Anna_1021 Much hugs to you. Sorry for CD1, and sorry for the crying in the bathroom at work. :-( Sometimes working through IF is hard...
@laurad75 That's great you have a lot to distract you right now. Besides getting KU, lots to distract you from thinking about getting KU is the next best thing.
@GG620 That meme is a perfect summary of life.
@beachbunnyxo123 Yay for O!
@magnolia131 Deciding when to move forward with IVF -for whatever reasons, emotionally or financially, is tough. I feel like I'm in a bit of a similar situation where financially it would be better to wait a few more months, but I feel like the wait is torture. And I know it's just a few more months, but I'm getting really impatient. Anyway, I just wanted to say I know how you feel. And don't judge yourself too much on that urge to move forward with IVF sooner than may be the *ideal* time financially. You've waiting a really long time already! And I totally get waiting "just a few more months" is painful.
@juneroseruby Just hugs. That's all I've got. Waiting is the worst.
@jmr1515 Yikes! So glad you were able to get into an RE appointment without that long wait again, but that sucks you had to go through all that anxiety and all those tears.
Cycle/CD: month 15/cycle 7/CD 5
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
I love that so many people here would bring Harry Potter. I'd bring that too, but I'm not sure which one. Probably the 7th. For music, I'd bring a CD with all the best, cheesy party dance songs so I could dance and work out to them. For food, I am stealing @JuneRoseRuby's idea and bringing Reese Peanut Butter Eggs. I am too ashamed to say how many I ate this Easter season.
Cycle/CD: 1/28
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring? Tuck Everlasting by Natalie Babbitt, Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd, and an endless supply of non molding French bread lol
ETA fix a horrible text addition
DS1: 9.6.12**DS2: 12.22.14
CP1: 6/17 @4w4d
CP2: 9/17 @4w3d
CP3: 2/18 @5w
Rainbow Baby On Board
<a href="https://babysizer.com/geeky"><img src="https://babysizer.com/geeky-2019-03-08.jpg" alt="Babysizer Geeky Pregnancy Tracker"></a>
Diagnosis (If you've been): endometriosis
Cycle/CD: 17 or 18...CD 3
@kiwi2628 We talked numbers today and it's amazing how depressing it is!
@mrsdaddario I am so glad they are sorting out the insurance stuff. What a headache!
@Anna_1021 Hugs to you today. It's so easy to get hopeful
@laurad75 yay for distractions, I hope the break is a good recharge for you.
@antoto Thanks for all those stats, full of information!!!
@magnolia131 I hate waiting too! This whole process has been waiting and now I just want to get things going!
@zwink1 I also have zero coverage and it sucks. Seems pills are covered, injections aren't. At this point we are putting all of our money to IVF...The success rates of IUIs aren't enough for us.
@madspunk I have an acupuncture appointment tomorrow too. I love the chance to relax in the middle of the day. A nice break from the office!
@Anna_1021 so sorry for CD1. Don't be so hard on yourself! We have all been there...just last month I convinced myself that it was our miracle month because my boobs were a little more tender than usual...obviously I was wrong! Good luck on your upcoming IUI. Sending all the good vibes!
Surgery Dec 2016: submucosal fibroid removed
Awaiting RE appointment
Diagnosis (If you've been): unexplained
Cycle/CD: 19/8
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Meeting new RE tomorrow
How are things going? Better than last week. I have been researching, reading books, and found a podcast called "Beat Infertility" that I have been listening too. (I searched the boards here about it after I found it and found that people were talking about it a year ago). It has helped me understand better how to be my own advocate. Going to try to put those skills to use tomorrow at the appointment. Hopefully we will have a game plan for next steps.
Any questions? Not right now.
GTKY: You are going to be left on a deserted island for one year. What book do you bring? What music do you bring? What food item do you bring?
Oh this is hard, book to bring not sure, I am an avid reader, but don’t usually reread books. Maybe a really large biography, those take me longer to read and having someone else’s life story might be interesting for a year. Food chocolate chip cookies for sure. Music something happy to dance too for when I get in a funk.
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@kiwi2628 having friends get KU quickly is hard, now that we have been through 19 months of it, it hasn’t gotten any easier. Hope you get your test results soon! I was going through stats with my H last night, and he was like man this is too depressing. Just saw your follow up message too, oh girl that hurts! Happy to hear it was a text and that you knew she was trying, it doesn’t make it hurt less, but I hope you had some privacy to feel what you needed too before having to face her.
@LoveInDC Hope this cycle passes quickly for you so you can get started on the medicated cycle if that is what you are fxing for! And fettuccine alfredo also sounds delicious!
@mrsdaddario insurance mess up are such a headache! Happy to hear you are already seeing work being done to get it sorted out!
@Anna_1021 Blasted CD1 and ugly cries! Give yourself time and space to work through the feels of it all. Sorry! And I feel you about the weight gain, such a dang emotional rollercoaster this IF and to try to care about being “beach” ready…just not happening this spring.
@laurad75 way to be a rockstar!
@gg620 Love your gif! I can relate!
@antoto I hope all of the on again off again (bcp) goes smoothly and hopefully you get some good sleep during that time! Do you happen to have any posters that don’t refer to the person posting as having IF? I would like to raise awareness on social media, just not sure if we are ready to share with the world.
@shortstack930 It is good to hear you are enjoying your NTNP month! Hope you continue to be refreshed and reset for your next phase.
@magnolia131 I feel you on the financial saviness vs the feeling of wanting to make it to the finish line. My H and I go back and forth on this one as well. Hope the conversations continue to go well!
@JuneRoseRuby Sorry to hear you feel like you aren’t working towards the goal of getting KU. I was there last week. I hope you find new hope!
@vflux33 Good to hear this week is starting off a bit better! Hope YH’s results come in soon! In the meantime, get to feeling better!
@RatParade It can be a tough pill to swallow, especially when it means IVF might be your only option. Give yourself time to work through it all!
@leekat14 yay for a good consultation! And for random encouragement from a stranger!
@LoveInDC the only reason I picked the sixth is because the island would only be for one year (I thought way too hard about it, lol)
@mrsdaddario ugh, so annoying about insurance. I am glad you are figuring it out though. And I feel you on waiting for an AF you know is coming, even though, in theory, its too early to know. Its just depressing and dumb. Hugs lady.
@Anna_1021 I am so sorry IUI didnt work. Hugs hugs hugs to you
@GG620 not only are we cycle buddies now, but we are hoping to start meds/IUI in June also!
@beachbunnyxo123 that is EXACTLY what it feels like- it feels like a race, but I did not sign up for this race! I did not want to be racing, lol, but it feels like we are all trying to be pregnant at the same time, but I will fall behind in a cloud of dust...and then probably fall in a hole and die (I may be a tad dramatic). Also YAY for O yesterday!
@RatParade rofl at that gif, that is also exactly what it feels like! I am so sorry you are feeling down about results. Take all the time you need, but the good news is you have a plan and a goal and that always makes it easier to power through
@jmr1515 welcome back (sadly, obviously). And yay for an RE appt! Where do you live that it takes that long for an appt? I am sorry it is such a long process for you
@madspunk have fun with acupuncture today! I love getting it done- it totally zones me
@leekat14 omg the story of the girl telling you to do it made my cold dead heart warm and fuzzy. That is seriously so uplifting!
AFM, I got an email this AM about our genetic testing- I am a carrier for 2 recessive genes that cause severe abnormalities, so now my H has to be tested for them. They are both exceedingly rare, so I doubt it is the cause of our IF or that my H will be a carrier but, you know, better safe than sorry
I'm also wondering why you think your borderline PCOS? Do you have very irregular cycles?
Lastly, all my questions stem from sheer curiosity and this thread is filled with extremely encouraging and amazing women, so if you do need to be here then you will find the support you need. But I would never understand why someone would want to call infertility if it's not needed in any way shape or form. Also, ending your sentence on not knowing if this will go off well with a "lol" rubbed me the wrong way. These women, including myself, have been battling heartache, treatment and months of waiting, not something to laugh or joke about wondering if you fit in.
@kiwi2628 I'm glad you took yesterday for yourself. Hugs for the genetic test results. FX YH is clear and it can be less of a burden on your mind
TTC #1 November 2016
50mg Clomid June 2017
BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
I was diagnosed borderline PCOS after testing I had before DS2. I have a lot of the symptoms (cysts, unexplained/sudden weight gain, irregular and very heavy menses) but my blood work comes back borderline every time - not totally normal but not definitively PCOS. Since this this is my first time TTC my ob wanted to try 6mos unmedicated before we start metformin (which I was on when DS1&2 were conceived.)
This is part of why I don't know if this is an ok place for me to post. It was suggested by someone (I can't remember who) when I asked in another thread about PCOS and was told it's discussed here. Definitely not trying to step on any toes and will gladly step back from here if I'm not welcome at this time.
DS1: 9.6.12**DS2: 12.22.14
CP1: 6/17 @4w4d
CP2: 9/17 @4w3d
CP3: 2/18 @5w
Rainbow Baby On Board
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TTC #1 November 2016
50mg Clomid June 2017
BFP June, 21 2017 | EDD March 4, 2018
DS1: 9.6.12**DS2: 12.22.14
CP1: 6/17 @4w4d
CP2: 9/17 @4w3d
CP3: 2/18 @5w
Rainbow Baby On Board
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There is a wealth of knowledge on this board, it's just helpful if we know your history. Also, I didn't see you post any questions in your OP so that's why I was confused as to why you were checking in here.
@antoto that study is really interesting. I've heard so many different things RE sex EOD vs ED. FF states that O-2 is the best day for TTC sex in one their Daily Tips.
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Me: 28 Him: 30
Married: 11/15/14
TTC: 02/2016
IF DX: MFI (low count & morphology) & mild PCOS
June 2016 BFP - MC @8w2d
August 2016 BFP - MC @6w1d
June 2017 - 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP 7/6/17!!
Beta #1 = 422 (14dpo), Beta #2 = 810, prog - 12.3 (16dpo), Beta #3 = 5023, prog - 18.9 (20dpo)
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