September 2017 Moms

FFFC 4/14

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  • Easter related confession: I hate Peeps. They are super gross. My SIL brought us some blue Peeps to celebrate the baby boy. I took them to work. No one there ate them either. I'm pretty sure they got thrown away after a few days. 
    I'm not a big peeps fan either, but if you ever have a fire you should try roasting them like a marshmallow. Almost tastes like creme brûlée! 

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  • @labby18 I have felt your pain. About a year ago we got rid of our queen sized old as dirt mattress and bought a king sized temperpedic adjustable bed. I thought I hated it at first and that we made a huge mistake, but the guy told us at the store told us to give it 3 weeks. Now it's heaven! My grandpa has a sleep number and we slept in their room a few nights (they weren't in there!) and it was pretty comparable to me. But I love how when DH (or the dog) is moving around i don't feel it. I'm a light sleeper. 

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  • I will definitely be saving for my children's tuition and anything that I can help them with. Neither of my parents went to college (nor did their parents) and they did not necessarily save an amount for my sister and I to use for college but they worked hard and paid for my undergraduate education and for that I am so thankful. I was expected to try to get scholarships which I did and for 2 years I worked as an RA so my room and board were covered. I got loans for PA school but worked in an underserved area for 2 years to have those loans paid off. My parents bought me a new (not super expensive) car and covered my insurance. I did get a job at 16. If my children are doing well in school and making good choices, not getting in trouble I will gladly get them a new car and help them where I can while teaching them responsibility. If they do not feel college is for them, that is ok, but they will need to have some sort of plan. 

    FFFC: My almost 2 year old sleeps in our bed most of the time and at 4 AM we awake to him crying. Apparently he tried to get out of bed or was sleeping/dreaming and somehow was getting off the bed. There is a gap between our mattress and footboard and the poor guy was stuck standing between them. I couldn't help but laugh while feeling bad at the same time. We got him back in bed and he snuggled right up but I'm still confused how that happened.
  • @Lizlann that makes total sense. I definitely agree with you that society does need to change. Like I said, my profession (software development) doesn't need college. It would be much better for trade school, but most companies wont even consider without the degree. Experience is much more valuable. That being said, one of my best friends from college, went on to get her Masters and she still cant find a job she likes or is qualified for . She is a finance assistant at a car dealer. I also agree that some kids just need a couple of years before going to school. College has turned into a 4 year party time for most and not a 4 year education.




  • We will definitely set money aside for our kid(s) to use in some aspect someday but I'm also in the boat of not forcing them to attend a 4 year university especially immediately after high school. I have a bachelor's degree and DH graduated high school. Our salaries are comparable, we are definitely not "rich" but we live a very comfortable life and we're both happy with what we do. My job could very easily be done without a degree even though it is a requirement to have one. When I went to college, I had absolutely no idea what I wanted to do with my life. I still didn't even after graduating with my degree in business management. I just happened to have an aunt that worked in finance and she passed along my resume which got me an interview and here I am, 10 years later. So yea, I'm very lucky to have the job I have in many aspects but I wish I'd had more time to really get to know myself and my interests a bit more before making such big (and expensive) decisions. That's what I'd want for my kids just in case they end up like me, being 18 and having no clue what they want out of life. 

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  • As far as the college tuition is concerned, I definitely want to lean toward encouraging my daughter to get scholarships and grants because she is most definitely capable of doing so. For myself, my parents did not set me up in any way for the future. I bought my own vehicles, and have had to wrack up a lot of student loan debt because I didn't understand or have anyone to coach or guide me through the process of paying for college. I'll be paying off these loans for many many years to come. 

    I want to provide more for my children than my parents did for me but I also want them to be ambitious and work hard. Because I think that what I went through shaped me to be the incredibly hard working ambitious person I am today. 

    After we have the baby and get better settled financially I plan on saving for both of them to have a safety net to get them through at least a portion of their college. And of course I will never have my children struggle in their adulthood. So if they need help affording food, etc. we will most definitely be there for them. 
  • Easter related confession: I hate Peeps. They are super gross. My SIL brought us some blue Peeps to celebrate the baby boy. I took them to work. No one there ate them either. I'm pretty sure they got thrown away after a few days. 
    I'm not a big peeps fan either, but if you ever have a fire you should try roasting them like a marshmallow. Almost tastes like creme brûlée! 
    This is the only way to eat Peeps. We put them on S'mores last year. 
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  • My parents paid for all of our undergrad degrees (there are 4 of us), however, only two of us graduated. One only wanted to play music and my parents finally quit forcing him. The other failed out because he partied too hard and my parents said enough. 
    I do have $50K in grad school loans I'm a little bitter about because they told my younger brother they would pay for his masters degree, but not mine. They told me that they know I'm ok and I can pay for it. I'm paying a lot each month to knock that out so we can buy a new car and renovate. 
    Anyways, we plan on paying what we can for each child and helping them out when we can. My parents did that with me growing up and I greatly appreciated it. 
    My job requires a masters degree. There isn't any way around it, but if they want to go to trade school, I'm all for it! 
    My in-laws did something similar. At one point during college, they decided DH wasn't taking it seriously enough, so they stopped paying any of his tuition, and he was completely on his own. They said if he could go a year with good grades and prove he was working hard and cared about his degree they would give him back their financial support. He did everything they asked and more, working a part time job in addition to joining a traveling musical ensemble that paid for part of his tuition and all his food and board, but took up two nights a week and 9 out of 10 weekends. ( @mrsmarygs, He actually performed with them at your college many times!) They never helped him again. Their reasoning was "he seemed like he had it all handled." He did not. He was incredibly stressed through his last three years of school, and actually took an extra year to graduate because he couldn't support himself and complete the internship he needed to graduate- my parents ended up stepping in and helping him enough that semester to survive, and we were only engaged at the time. His parents did sort of make up for it years down the road when he lost his job, but honestly, we would rather have had fewer student loans all along, especially since he had a whole extra years worth to pay off. I want my children know the value of hard work and to be ambitious, but I don't ever want them to be as stressed about money in college as DH was (he use to get migraines from stress, and would get physically sick when his bills would come due) knowing that we have the means to help them and we just don't. I can't wrap my mind around how his parents did that to him. 


  • We have a college fund for DS, and will have one for this LO as well.  We just don't make enough money to pay for an entire college education for two kids, especially at the rate the prices are increasing.  That being said, I'm willing to put aside what we can afford, even if it's only a little bit, to make sure my kids have a chance to go to college if they want to do so.  

    I pay for college loans still, as does my DH.  We both worked during college, too.  But we also had the support we needed from our parents, and I was certainly capable of appreciating it without working to the point of exhaustion all the time.  I think kids can go to college, have financial support, and still recognize that it's not an easy thing to finance.  My older brother went to college, screwed around, and my parents pulled him out of school after his second semester.  He didn't appreciate what he had, and threw it out the window with both hands.  He's 35, and just finally finished his BS a year or two ago, as he had to work and take classes at the same time for years.  

    I see nothing wrong with helping my kids get an education.  And if they decide they don't want to go to college or trade school, well, the great part is that the funds can be transferred to another family member's name instead.  They won't be wasted.
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  • I would love to help my children through college. I will definitely at the very least help by cosigning on loans. My first priority will be saving for my retirement and future, because I want to make sure I'm taken care of and don't leave them to take care of me. If there is money left, they will get it. My parents didn't help me with college(they didn't go and I dont thin see the value in it) and I'm concerned that they also aren't saving for their retirement. My mother in law also isn't prepared for elderly life. We will be taking on a lot financially at that time. Lastly, I am still not finished attending college myself, nor is my husband. Hopefully we will be in a better place financially after that is completed.
  • lilpoots said:
    I would love to help my children through college. I will definitely at the very least help by cosigning on loans. My first priority will be saving for my retirement and future, because I want to make sure I'm taken care of and don't leave them to take care of me. If there is money left, they will get it. My parents didn't help me with college(they didn't go and I dont thin see the value in it) and I'm concerned that they also aren't saving for their retirement. My mother in law also isn't prepared for elderly life. We will be taking on a lot financially at that time. Lastly, I am still not finished attending college myself, nor is my husband. Hopefully we will be in a better place financially after that is completed.
    Ugh, retirement is a whole other beast. DH does some day trading on the side, and in the past wanted that to be our retirement. Which stressed me out to no end. Now that the reality of this baby is sinking in, I think I'm finally winning the argument of putting a lot of that into safer investments, and not risking our entire future on what is essentially his hobby job. (Well, this baby, and the reality of seeing his dad being unable to retire because of some unfortunate situations. I'm not happy that my in laws are going through that, but I'm glad it opened DH's eyes a little bit.) 


  • mrs_tacos said:
    lilpoots said:
    I would love to help my children through college. I will definitely at the very least help by cosigning on loans. My first priority will be saving for my retirement and future, because I want to make sure I'm taken care of and don't leave them to take care of me. If there is money left, they will get it. My parents didn't help me with college(they didn't go and I dont thin see the value in it) and I'm concerned that they also aren't saving for their retirement. My mother in law also isn't prepared for elderly life. We will be taking on a lot financially at that time. Lastly, I am still not finished attending college myself, nor is my husband. Hopefully we will be in a better place financially after that is completed.
    Ugh, retirement is a whole other beast. DH does some day trading on the side, and in the past wanted that to be our retirement. Which stressed me out to no end. Now that the reality of this baby is sinking in, I think I'm finally winning the argument of putting a lot of that into safer investments, and not risking our entire future on what is essentially his hobby job. (Well, this baby, and the reality of seeing his dad being unable to retire because of some unfortunate situations. I'm not happy that my in laws are going through that, but I'm glad it opened DH's eyes a little bit.) 
    Retirement planning is so stressful. Apparently the 10% rule is now 14% (anyone know if this is actually true or just fear mongering since the stock market isn't doing as well as it did historically?). Who the F can invest 14% of their income and still survive day to day expenses? 
  • FFFC inspired by everything going on here today.... I'm apparently still figuring out how to be a real functioning adult. DH and I haven't really talked about retirement, we are horrible at saving, we've got a 529 plan for DS but our savings is severely lacking. I don't understand a lot of how retirement stuff works, we have some money invested but so far I think we've only made like $80 from that? There's more but it all pretty muchjust comes back to learning how to adult.
  • mrs_tacosmrs_tacos member
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    @wyomama0427 We didn't have any of that stuff figured out yet when we were your age either. Shoot, we didn't make enough money to even be able to think about saving, we were lucky to eat and pay bills. As your DH figures out where his career is going, you guys will work it out. 


  • @lilpoots I really admire your reasoning.  It's not necessarily something I've thought of, but I agree, it is important to set yourself up for retirement first.  I'm 31 and have a friend who's father recently had a stroke (she's only a year older than me).  He can't work anymore and doesn't have much in terms of savings or retirement.  It's been incredibly stressful for her and her sisters trying to figure out what they can do both physically and financially to help.  I don't want to put my kiddos through something like that, and unfortunately, as much as you plan to work and retire at __ years, life always surprises you.  :/
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  • mrs_tacos said:
    lilpoots said:
    I would love to help my children through college. I will definitely at the very least help by cosigning on loans. My first priority will be saving for my retirement and future, because I want to make sure I'm taken care of and don't leave them to take care of me. If there is money left, they will get it. My parents didn't help me with college(they didn't go and I dont thin see the value in it) and I'm concerned that they also aren't saving for their retirement. My mother in law also isn't prepared for elderly life. We will be taking on a lot financially at that time. Lastly, I am still not finished attending college myself, nor is my husband. Hopefully we will be in a better place financially after that is completed.
    Ugh, retirement is a whole other beast. DH does some day trading on the side, and in the past wanted that to be our retirement. Which stressed me out to no end. Now that the reality of this baby is sinking in, I think I'm finally winning the argument of putting a lot of that into safer investments, and not risking our entire future on what is essentially his hobby job. (Well, this baby, and the reality of seeing his dad being unable to retire because of some unfortunate situations. I'm not happy that my in laws are going through that, but I'm glad it opened DH's eyes a little bit.) 
    Retirement planning is so stressful. Apparently the 10% rule is now 14% (anyone know if this is actually true or just fear mongering since the stock market isn't doing as well as it did historically?). Who the F can invest 14% of their income and still survive day to day expenses? 
    I haven't heard the 14%. I know our financial advisor has told my DH and I to up our contributions. I contribute 6% and my DH contributes 6 or 7 I think. We need to increase it to decrease our taxable income actually. They are both matched up to 6% as well. I'm always freaking out about retirement like ah we don't have enough! But it's what we can do right now. We also have a separate mutual fund that our financial advisor handles. For the longest time DH wanted to do it himself and I said no. He "invested" in what turned out to be a Ponzi scheme...let me just say it was a big told you so because I saw it all along. We weren't married so I didn't have as much say. luckily it wasn't a lot of money but I'll never let him live that down lol. 
  • We have an RESP set up for DS and will set one up for this baby as soon as he/she is born. My dad has been incredibly generous in funding it so far and I've been putting all the Baby Bonus payments I get into it. He will have a nice base in his future.

    I went to university out of town and my parents paid tuition but I paid everything else from part-time work and summer jobs. They still bought me groceries when they visited and stuff like that but I had to learn balance and budgeting without getting over stressed. DH went to college but lived at home. His parents helped but he also worked part-time and had an inheritance to live from when he did his internship. We both finished debt free. I then went to law school which I paid for but lived with DH (back before we were married). I had student loans but repaid them really quickly with DH's help. We want to make sure DS knows that he has to work and figure out how to be a responsible person but not to the point of being worn thin. 
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  • Retirement can be confusing and somewhat scary. Right now I'm putting in 2.5% which my work is matching. After I've been on staff for 5 years, it will go up to 5% match, so I'll up my retirement then. DH has the same plan as me since we work at the same college. 
    The portfolio we use is just one that our financial advisor at the college said we should use at this young of an age. It's a pretty "risky" portfolio, but we'll change it to moderate as we get older.
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  • @Sugargirl1019 Wow. I have no words for how truly f**cked that is. I would be absolutely livid. From his perspective and from yours. Not lifting a finger at all to help her own child but capitalizing off of his own suffering to put herself in a better place. Does not sound like much of a mom to me....
    It gives me a sigh of relief to know I'm not a bitter bitch :)

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  • @Sugargirl1019 Wow. I have no words for how truly f**cked that is. I would be absolutely livid. From his perspective and from yours. Not lifting a finger at all to help her own child but capitalizing off of his own suffering to put herself in a better place. Does not sound like much of a mom to me....
    My thoughts exactly.
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  • @Sugargirl1019 you are not a bitter bitch at all! The audacity some parents have....seriously, that is bologna that they would think that move is ok. And they wonder why your relationship with them might be on the rocky side or the 'eh, I'll hold y'all at a distance side'. 
  • FFFC: I threw my own baby shower.  My sister and SIL ended up helping through almost all of it.  I didn't know someone else was suppose to throw it and no one offered. It was coed and all family with a few friends. I wasn't expecting gifts and didn't do a registry.   My sister asked what she could get me and got a playpen.  That was my biggest gift besides diapers and outfits.  I don't get why people care so much about showers and why they are labeled greedy and selfish. I always thought in laws and parents got the bigger ticket items. I have never gotten a baby registry sent to me before and I have been to many many many showers.  

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  • @kaylaakousa I've only ever been to like three or four baby showers my whole life.  The only one I could honestly say I knew who "hosted/threw" it would be the one I co-hosted for one of my best friends. At the end of the day people are there for either you, the baby, or the free food (j.k). I also think I've only gotten a registry notification for two of those showers.  Most people buy off the registry anyways.
  • @Sugargirl1019 wow! The audacity some people
    have. I don't know if I would be on speaking terms if my inlaws did that and I'd still be bitter! They didn't suppport my DH at all through college or grad school but never would they think to claim the taxes. 
  • @Ae_Lovely321  Ours was definitely about the food, we also had beer there too.  
    Also, I think peeps are delicious and now all I have been thinking about is roasting them over a campfire. 


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