DH and I were just talking about that last night actually when we were watching The Big Bang Theory and Sheldon and Amy are in a super tiny full/queen bed. I just can't imagine being that close to my husband while sleeping haha. We are just not cuddlers.
H and I always comment on their bed, that thing is like a twin size!
DH and I sleep on a full size mattress, but with accepting of me being tall, we're "smaller" people and it works for us
I can take it or leave if with yogurt
I find participation trophies weird...growing up my dad wouldn't even try to go easy on us in games so that we'd actually have to try and other than a slightly over competitive attitude towards card games, I don't think it's a bad thing that we actually felt the disappointment of losing when we lost
DH and I are tatted and pierced people, I have no problem with any of it, but I also think it's important to be willing to cover tats and take out piercings if you need to
My UO: I think 99% of sports are awful and boring and genuinely hope none of my children take an interest in them
I have to join on the tomato haters. I also am a cheese quesadilla eater at mexican restaurants. Although I LOVE guacamole. And obviously chips and queso.
I am also not a tattoo lover. I don't really care if other people have them, although I have to admit that there is some level of judgement passed on terrible, visible, profane tattoos. Its almost involuntary and I sometimes have to tell myself that it doesn't necessarily mean anything about the person!
I have to go with @bacorrea. I think that the United situation was handled poorly - by United, by the TSA officers, AND by the passenger. (I refuse to refer to him as "the doctor" because it's 100% irrelevant what his profession is - or his past for that matter). It is well within the right of the airline to remove a passenger from a plane for many reasons, including needing to get a working crew to their next flight. Also, a captain has the right (since 9/11) to remove a passenger for practically any reason and his or her decision is final. Period. It's the LAW. I would have also been pissed if I were the passenger, but to take it to the point where you need to be forcibly removed is too far, in my opinion. I also am irritated by all the other passengers on the plane who were so upset by the fact that this "doctor" needed to get back to Louisville for "life saving" work and yet no one volunteered to take his place. Instead they got all their phones out. Every man for himself mentality. Don't get me wrong, from many standpoints, I think United and ESPECIALLY the guards or TSA agents or whatever they are handled it poorly. Its just a media circus and I think it's been very one-sided, as many stories are portrayed by the mainstream media.
Regarding the United passenger situation- if you haven't read the article written by a pilots wife, read it! I tend to agree with her point of view in this article. It is all a media circus...
Tomatoes are my number one favorite food. I've loved them since childhood. I miss the midwest summer tomato season with a passion.
Re: United. I think you take your issues as you find them. Does "the doctor" seem like a horrible person IRL? Probably. But from purely a liability standpoint, it's an incredibly poor idea to drag someone off a plane kicking and screaming in the age of cell phones. I think it's sort of like dealing with an infuriating toddler. No, the kid isn't right, they are misbehaving, and yes, you probably want to resort to physical violence when they are absolutely refusing to do whatever it is you want them to do. But you have to look in your toolbox for a way out the situation. I don't know what that way out was on the plane, but by choosing the physical route, those officers ended up looking pretty bad in the public's eye. Now they'll have to face a jerk suing them for their behavior and they will likely settle out of court. So even if United was "right", they'll pay for it because of the route they chose.
My thoughts? Doctor seems like a dick. Also, The Business of Being Born is a load of horse shit.
My UO was going to be about United, too, and I thought it would be really unpopular, but turns out you're all on the same line of thinking. I think the passenger was acting childish and entitled. I don't condone the force used to get him off the plane, but contracts exist for a reason and passengers get bumped sometimes. I would be really unhappy if it happened to me, but life isn't always fair. You don't throw a tantrum.
Me: 29, DH: 31 Married: October 2014 Began TTC: April 2015 BFP #1: 9/18/15. EDD 5/18/16. MC 10/26/15. (9w) BFP #2: 2/27/16. EDD 11/7/16. MC/D&E 4/20/16 (11w) BFP #3: 9/22/16. EDD 5/29/17. DS born 4/24/17 BFP #4: 5/20/18. EDD 1/23/19.
I love that even the UO's around here turn into popular opinions it's great, someone is always like "there, that's a REAL UO" and 3-4 people always agree with them, why is everyone around here so damned rational? Lol
maybe we should rename this to the "popular opinion" thread...
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
Why does this thread, every week without fail, end up being about food?! LOL
My UO: I have no problem with ketchup on hot dogs. My hubbs shakes his head sadly every time I skip the mustard and go for the ketchup. And if I do that in a ballpark, he'll quickly side-step around me and high-tail it back to our seats ahead of me, lest anyone see him associating with the lowly uncultured riff-raff.
NOOOO! The Chicago girl in me says no no no no no!!! The bump is being weird and not letting me upload a popular Chicago sign about ketchup on hotdogs. Boooo.
As as far as the United disaster; as the wife of an airline employee I'm glad that you guys get it. H's job used to actually be to read the terms and conditions of each individual ticket caller when wanting to change their flights. It can't be computerized because there's so many different fares and classes and levels on the terms and conditions. It's AMAZING how many people would berate him for doing his job when THEY didn't read the contract they were agreeing to in the first place. Also overbooking has been standard practice for so many years isn't something that is hidden at all. All the people (not here) wishing for them to stop doing that are asking for higher prices! the amount of people that miss their flights is insane. Example: I was trying to fly home for my grandfathers funeral and the flight to New York was overbooked by 20 people. 27 people missed their flight for whatever reason and I was able to get on the flight. Generally overbooking isn't a big issue.
That said, United has handled this whole situation abysmally.
TTC1: May 2015
Primary IF May 2016; Failed HSG; Scheduled Lap Sept. 2016
Wait... people eat hotdogs without ketchup?! Why? The ketchup is the only part that actually tastes ok
Google Chicago Style Hotdog And try it just once. I do variations of it but it's so good. And it's never with ketchup. Also, what kind of hotdogs to they make in Australia? I LOVE LOVE LOVE a Vienna all-beef or Nathan's but don't put a Oscar Meyer hotdog near me. Blah. Only time ketchup is allowed is if 6-year-old-sarah makes an appearance and adds a hot dog to my Mac and cheese. Then ketchup is acceptable
TTC1: May 2015
Primary IF May 2016; Failed HSG; Scheduled Lap Sept. 2016
@sarah0985 hotdogs here are the sweetend buns with a "hotdog" (Frankfurt, gross meat wrapped in what I can only assume is red plastic) ketchup and mustard on them, I know some people who eat cheese on them. a "snag sandwich" is a much more popular option which is a real sausage, cooked on a BBQ/grill and put on a piece of buttered bread with sautéed onions and either BBQ (brown? Think that's UK? ) sauce or ketchup.
I refuse to eat hotdogs, they are disgusting :-/
Eta: I think this may actually be an UO... nothing about a Chicago hotdog sounds appealing to me
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
We should 100% forgive and exempt @PartiallyDomesticated from hotdog discussions because it isn't the same down there. If you want to talk about supremacy in the meat and carb game she is going to win every time because they have meat pies. Y'all take drunk food to another level down there.
I have no interest in watching "The Buisness of Being Born". Give me my epi thaaaaaank you! I'm not trying to watch anything that's going to make me have doubts at the last minute!
Omg the business of being born. It's so funny that you all brought that up yesterday bc I was lurking another BMB that has a totally active home birth/birth center birth thread and upon reading it I discovered that many posters stated that "business" was why they made their decision. I ended up watching it for S&G's and because I find documentaries fascinating.
I am in total shock that people make their medical decisions based upon documentaries. That one is clearly one sided. No one in that documentary provided any studies or actually data or anything to back up what they are saying. Just like so many documentaries. Also the idea that OBGYN/ACOG/AMA only have their own financial/business interest in mind is interesting and I can see how anyone sees it that way but SO DO THE MIDWIVES IN THE DOCUMENTARY. They are also pumping up their profession and standpoint and have financial interest in people choosing them over an OB.
Also, there were some grossness factors in the documentary for me..like one of the midwives catching babies with her bare hands! And one question I have about home births is who cleans all that up afterward? Who puts away the giant birthing tub and cleans the blood off the floor (which happens in some of the portrayed births).
So suffice it it to say I am happy for everyone to make their own informed decision about how to go about their childbirth. If you are healthy and low risk then I hope you can have whatever birth plan you choose whether it be at home or at a birth center or a tertiary health care facility. Please just make sure you are with a well trained licensed provider who is experienced and prepared for emergencies. A CNM (certified nurse midwife) is much more difficult to obtain than a CPM (certified professional midwife). Do your due diligence to protect yourself and your baby.
However, I will be having my baby at a hospital with the highest level NICU and adult ICU's and 24/7 anesthesia staff because I have been there with healthy women whose birth experience ended in emergency situation. It's not because I don't believe my body can do it, it's because I know I cannot resuscitate myself and my baby at the same time if we are in an emergency situation. The most interesting part was the director of the documentary trying to have a home birth at 33 weeks or whatever she was with her breech baby. Don't worry, her midwife got her a taxi (not an ambulance!!!!) to get to the hospital for an emergency ceseaerean. Ugh. Get thee to the hospital if that's you!!!
TLDR-- business of being born: watched it yesterday. That s^*+ cray.
Re: united. I have been non-voluntarily bumped from a flight for "checking in last". It was a total shock to me that that's how they decided but it was in the contract so no way I was going to get arrested protesting that. I was just mad in the usual way...with not nice emails and phone calls. Plus I learned my lesson and always check in as soon as the email arrives stating "time to check in". People are crazy about the united thing but I do like reading their funny slogans! I also loved the article by the pilots wife.
tomatoes: I love cherry tomatoes but not any bigger than that.
@WombThereItIs just look at footy as gridiron for men who aren't pansies seriously though, I don't understand it either. I probably could've lived without ever having tried beer on my cornflakes though... that isn't the way to go about curing a hangover... I wish 16yr old me knew that lol
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
@WombThereItIs to be fair, drunk food is so good because that is the generic state of most men between the ages of 16 - 50
wait, meat pies aren't a thing elsewhere? O.o
I've been absent on this thread, but meat pies=heaven. Now I want a meat pie for breakfast...
Tomatoes are nasty when not ripe or bad quality (I'm looking at you, tomato on the Wendy's jr bacon cheeseburger), but fresh, ripe tomatoes are one of my faves.
Agreed with everyone saying the doctor was acting like a toddler who's grilled cheese was cut the wrong direction and United was acting like the overworked, snapped, sleep deprived parent at the end of a day of tantrums.
The Business of Being Born is whack...the epidural made my birthing experience bordering on pleasant. Even though I currently have a residual pain from the prenumbing injection site. Also, yeah...the medical field (and facilitating birth) is a profession. Where people make money. After they pay a bunch of money to get a degree. And then need to pay back medical school loans. And, yeah, pharmaceutical companies make money. They also spend a shit ton of money developing drugs that never go anywhere and doing research that ends with nothing. Are there inefficiencies and people padding their own pockets? Of course. But that's true in all industries. I will admit I may be biased as my husband is a scientist at a pharmaceutical company.
@BeachMommy2B don't be scared lol, it's a crust of pastry filled with meat and gravy (can be different flavours, traditionally it's beef mince with beef gravy, but you can also have other meats and sauces) it's totally safe to google.
eta: think Apple pie but with meat and gravy not apples inside! It's just the savoury version really.
eta x2: I never looked into the difference a "pie" is a large pastry crust with sweet or savoury filling a "meat pie" is exactly the same but smaller "hand sized" so yes @SKZW individual pies would be the same.
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
@BeachMommy2B: no, they are so yummy, don't be afraid, it's like 10x better than a pot pie... the flaky buttery crust, the gravy and meat and root veg... <drool>
The only detail I have heard, as I hear more and more about this United situation, that I feel was a true fail on United's part is this:
I read that initially only one employee needed a seat, and that was taken care of before passengers were boarded. Then passengers were boarded. THEN this group of 4 showed up wanting seats. So United started asking for more volunteers from a fully boarded plane. I think once you've been allowed on the plane, you should not be involuntarily removed for something such as this. The drive from Chicago to Louisville is 4.5 hours, and with that level of unpreparedness (being unreasonably last minute), United at that point should have instead rented the crew a comfy vehicle and had them drive since they weren't working a flight until the following day.
The injured passenger was wrong to refuse compliance, wrong to run back onto the plane, and I've read his injuries were not a direct beating but rather suffered during the general struggle when he hit an armrest. Law Enforcement did have every right to remove him and to use necessary force to do so. I feel their level of force was within reason. I personally feel they had grounds to at least tase him, which they didn't do. If this man didn't fight them so hard, perhaps he wouldn't have suffered such injury.
And United's statement that they'll never use law enforcement to remove a passenger from one of their aircraft is scary, and THAT is what will keep me off their aircraft.
It’s not that I don’t like you, it’s that I don’t know you. Stranger Danger.
@PartiallyDomesticated and @SKZW so by that definition of a meat pie wouldn't that be called a pasty? They are all over the UP and around some places in Michigan. Same thing?
@rkstro2 I always wonder who cleans it all up after a home birth! DNW to be cleaning up my own blood and placenta off the dining room floor.
Yeah seriously! Congrats you just delivered your baby like a boss so now you get to clean up your mess! I so hope there is a cleaning plan in place so the new mom doesn't have to do it. Eta: all my expertise from watching crime shows indicates it's hard to clean up blood. Hopefully the cleanup plan includes a professional crime scene cleaner!
In Phoenix we have both a meat pie truck and a few pasty restaurants I think the difference is that meat pies are like individual little pies in a small pie plate and pasties are more of a small calzone shape. They are all delicious.
I did not shed one tear when Randall's dad died on This is Us. I thought the whole episode was really well written and a good tribute to him, but I didn't cry.
@PartiallyDomesticated and @SKZW so by that definition of a meat pie wouldn't that be called a pasty? They are all over the UP and around some places in Michigan. Same thing?
Similar thing, a pastie is all puff pastry and is a different shape whereas a meat pie is like any other pie in that it has a short crust "bowl" with a puff pastry lid. Pasties here are also usually vegetarian
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
@SKZW@PartiallyDomesticated there's an English Pub super close to us that serves an awesome Cornish Pasty that I eat with HP sauce. DH dad is from London originally & DH mom is from Austria. DH made me schnitzel on our first date. So basically all I'm trying to say is I want a pasty now! Also a Smithwick's but I'll have to wait on that one
Re: UO 4/13/17
1st Baby 5/12/17, Henry
DH and I sleep on a full size mattress, but with accepting of me being tall, we're "smaller" people and it works for us
I can take it or leave if with yogurt
I find participation trophies weird...growing up my dad wouldn't even try to go easy on us in games so that we'd actually have to try and other than a slightly over competitive attitude towards card games, I don't think it's a bad thing that we actually felt the disappointment of losing when we lost
DH and I are tatted and pierced people, I have no problem with any of it, but I also think it's important to be willing to cover tats and take out piercings if you need to
My UO: I think 99% of sports are awful and boring and genuinely hope none of my children take an interest in them
I have to go with @bacorrea. I think that the United situation was handled poorly - by United, by the TSA officers, AND by the passenger. (I refuse to refer to him as "the doctor" because it's 100% irrelevant what his profession is - or his past for that matter). It is well within the right of the airline to remove a passenger from a plane for many reasons, including needing to get a working crew to their next flight. Also, a captain has the right (since 9/11) to remove a passenger for practically any reason and his or her decision is final. Period. It's the LAW. I would have also been pissed if I were the passenger, but to take it to the point where you need to be forcibly removed is too far, in my opinion. I also am irritated by all the other passengers on the plane who were so upset by the fact that this "doctor" needed to get back to Louisville for "life saving" work and yet no one volunteered to take his place. Instead they got all their phones out. Every man for himself mentality. Don't get me wrong, from many standpoints, I think United and ESPECIALLY the guards or TSA agents or whatever they are handled it poorly. Its just a media circus and I think it's been very one-sided, as many stories are portrayed by the mainstream media.
There, a REAL UO!
https://thepilotwifelife.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/i-know-youre-mad-at-united-but-thoughts-from-a-pilot-wife-about-flight-3411/
Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
Sassy Baby P 03.26.14
Little Brother Due 05.22.17
Re: United. I think you take your issues as you find them. Does "the doctor" seem like a horrible person IRL? Probably. But from purely a liability standpoint, it's an incredibly poor idea to drag someone off a plane kicking and screaming in the age of cell phones. I think it's sort of like dealing with an infuriating toddler. No, the kid isn't right, they are misbehaving, and yes, you probably want to resort to physical violence when they are absolutely refusing to do whatever it is you want them to do. But you have to look in your toolbox for a way out the situation. I don't know what that way out was on the plane, but by choosing the physical route, those officers ended up looking pretty bad in the public's eye. Now they'll have to face a jerk suing them for their behavior and they will likely settle out of court. So even if United was "right", they'll pay for it because of the route they chose.
My thoughts? Doctor seems like a dick. Also, The Business of Being Born is a load of horse shit.
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Began TTC: April 2015
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BFP #2: 2/27/16. EDD 11/7/16. MC/D&E 4/20/16 (11w)
BFP #3: 9/22/16. EDD 5/29/17. DS born 4/24/17
BFP #4: 5/20/18. EDD 1/23/19.
maybe we should rename this to the "popular opinion" thread...
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
Sassy Baby P 03.26.14
Little Brother Due 05.22.17
As as far as the United disaster; as the wife of an airline employee I'm glad that you guys get it. H's job used to actually be to read the terms and conditions of each individual ticket caller when wanting to change their flights. It can't be computerized because there's so many different fares and classes and levels on the terms and conditions. It's AMAZING how many people would berate him for doing his job when THEY didn't read the contract they were agreeing to in the first place.
Also overbooking has been standard practice for so many years isn't something that is hidden at all. All the people (not here) wishing for them to stop doing that are asking for higher prices!
the amount of people that miss their flights is insane. Example: I was trying to fly home for my grandfathers funeral and the flight to New York was overbooked by 20 people. 27 people missed their flight for whatever reason and I was able to get on the flight. Generally overbooking isn't a big issue.
That said, United has handled this whole situation abysmally.
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
Only time ketchup is allowed is if 6-year-old-sarah makes an appearance and adds a hot dog to my Mac and cheese. Then ketchup is acceptable
a "snag sandwich" is a much more popular option which is a real sausage, cooked on a BBQ/grill and put on a piece of buttered bread with sautéed onions and either BBQ (brown? Think that's UK?
I refuse to eat hotdogs, they are disgusting :-/
Eta: I think this may actually be an UO... nothing about a Chicago hotdog sounds appealing to me
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
May '17 labor memes
wait, meat pies aren't a thing elsewhere? O.o
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
I might not get footy but I do appreciate your alcohol and food game, you guys are alright.
May '17 labor memes
I am in total shock that people make their medical decisions based upon documentaries. That one is clearly one sided. No one in that documentary provided any studies or actually data or anything to back up what they are saying. Just like so many documentaries. Also the idea that OBGYN/ACOG/AMA only have their own financial/business interest in mind is interesting and I can see how anyone sees it that way but SO DO THE MIDWIVES IN THE DOCUMENTARY. They are also pumping up their profession and standpoint and have financial interest in people choosing them over an OB.
Also, there were some grossness factors in the documentary for me..like one of the midwives catching babies with her bare hands! And one question I have about home births is who cleans all that up afterward? Who puts away the giant birthing tub and cleans the blood off the floor (which happens in some of the portrayed births).
So suffice it it to say I am happy for everyone to make their own informed decision about how to go about their childbirth. If you are healthy and low risk then I hope you can have whatever birth plan you choose whether it be at home or at a birth center or a tertiary health care facility. Please just make sure you are with a well trained licensed provider who is experienced and prepared for emergencies. A CNM (certified nurse midwife) is much more difficult to obtain than a CPM (certified professional midwife). Do your due diligence to protect yourself and your baby.
However, I will be having my baby at a hospital with the highest level NICU and adult ICU's and 24/7 anesthesia staff because I have been there with healthy women whose birth experience ended in emergency situation. It's not because I don't believe my body can do it, it's because I know I cannot resuscitate myself and my baby at the same time if we are in an emergency situation. The most interesting part was the director of the documentary trying to have a home birth at 33 weeks or whatever she was with her breech baby. Don't worry, her midwife got her a taxi (not an ambulance!!!!) to get to the hospital for an emergency ceseaerean. Ugh. Get thee to the hospital if that's you!!!
TLDR-- business of being born: watched it yesterday. That s^*+ cray.
Re: united. I have been non-voluntarily bumped from
a flight for "checking in last". It was a total shock to me that that's how they decided but it was in the contract so no way I was going to get arrested protesting that. I was just mad in the usual way...with not nice emails and phone calls. Plus I learned my lesson and always check in as soon as the email arrives stating "time to check in". People are crazy about the united thing but I do like reading their funny slogans! I also loved the article by the pilots wife.
tomatoes: I love cherry tomatoes but not any bigger than that.
I probably could've lived without ever having tried beer on my cornflakes though... that isn't the way to go about curing a hangover... I wish 16yr old
me knew that lol
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
Tomatoes are nasty when not ripe or bad quality (I'm looking at you, tomato on the Wendy's jr bacon cheeseburger), but fresh, ripe tomatoes are one of my faves.
Agreed with everyone saying the doctor was acting like a toddler who's grilled cheese was cut the wrong direction and United was acting like the overworked, snapped, sleep deprived parent at the end of a day of tantrums.
The Business of Being Born is whack...the epidural made my birthing experience bordering on pleasant. Even though I currently have a residual pain from the prenumbing injection site. Also, yeah...the medical field (and facilitating birth) is a profession. Where people make money. After they pay a bunch of money to get a degree. And then need to pay back medical school loans. And, yeah, pharmaceutical companies make money. They also spend a shit ton of money developing drugs that never go anywhere and doing research that ends with nothing. Are there inefficiencies and people padding their own pockets? Of course. But that's true in all industries. I will admit I may be biased as my husband is a scientist at a pharmaceutical company.
And @PartiallyDomesticated, haha, guys aged 16 to 50. That cracks me up!
eta: think Apple pie but with meat and gravy not apples inside! It's just the savoury version really.
eta x2: I never looked into the difference a "pie" is a large pastry crust with sweet or savoury filling a "meat pie" is exactly the same but smaller "hand sized" so yes @SKZW individual pies would be the same.
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
https://www.traderjoes.com/fearless-flyer/article/2778
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
I read that initially only one employee needed a seat, and that was taken care of before passengers were boarded. Then passengers were boarded. THEN this group of 4 showed up wanting seats. So United started asking for more volunteers from a fully boarded plane. I think once you've been allowed on the plane, you should not be involuntarily removed for something such as this. The drive from Chicago to Louisville is 4.5 hours, and with that level of unpreparedness (being unreasonably last minute), United at that point should have instead rented the crew a comfy vehicle and had them drive since they weren't working a flight until the following day.
The injured passenger was wrong to refuse compliance, wrong to run back onto the plane, and I've read his injuries were not a direct beating but rather suffered during the general struggle when he hit an armrest. Law Enforcement did have every right to remove him and to use necessary force to do so. I feel their level of force was within reason. I personally feel they had grounds to at least tase him, which they didn't do. If this man didn't fight them so hard, perhaps he wouldn't have suffered such injury.
And United's statement that they'll never use law enforcement to remove a passenger from one of their aircraft is scary, and THAT is what will keep me off their aircraft.
It’s not that I don’t like you, it’s that I don’t know you. Stranger Danger.
Eta: all my expertise from watching crime shows indicates it's hard to clean up blood. Hopefully the cleanup plan includes a professional crime scene cleaner!
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Pasties here are also usually vegetarian
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016