@kat0607 I'm a total eves dropper too! I like to make up stories about what is going on in their lives. I swear I have my own life and friends/family, but I love guessing what goes on in others worlds!
@yellow1daisy I feel that way too! I'm actually a bit panicked - like we planned to get pregnant (being older and stuff we didn't want to risk waiting too long) - and now I'm like what in all hell were we thinking! So I can totally relate. I haven't bought anything or even made a list ugh. Somehow it will figure itself out though, right? Hang in there!
I shamefully have also not taken my prenatals much this pregnancy. I can barely admit it to myself.
We are transitioning DS (20months) to his bed tonight. He hasn't tried to climb out but I want him comfortable in his bed before the baby arrives so he has no associations with her arriving and him moving to a bed.
Confession - I intentionally "forgot" to take something out for dinner because I want pizza.
@yellow1daisy I don't really have anything to add that hasn't already been said, but I know a little how you feel. I have wanted to be a mom my whole life, even as a little kid. Everyone knows that I will be a good mom, including my rational brain. That didn't stop me from having a full on cry fest to my husband last weekend worrying that I wasn't going to know what to do or how to handle it all or whatever. He did a good job talking me down, but I still have those worries in the back of my mind. I'm sorry you are stressing, but take whatever comfort you can by knowing that you are very much not alone. I think we would be abnormal if we didn't have any anxiety.
@yellow1daisy , I'm right there with you. We were one and done and decided to have another to give DD a sibling, and with everything going the way it's going right now for me at work, I'm just so anxious and stressed out and feel like I'm in limbo because this just wasn't the right time. I know once the baby is here I'll feel a lot better (and I'll be sending resumes out the moment I hit maternity leave), but right now, i'm in a state of anxiety-inducing limbo
A little late but for what it's worth I've always been told there is no perfect time to have a baby and I firmly believe that. Becoming a mother is weird, it's like our maternal instinct takes over and you just know what to do, I don't know what else to say- you just know! Majority is "fake it till ya make it" but even those instincts come natural i keep asking DH what we did, how we did it and I honestly don't remember and it was just 22 months ago! Hoping instinct doesn't let me down this time around! Ha!
I think Easter baskets have gotten too much. My kids Easter baskets consist of a chocolate bunny, a book about Easter/Jesus, their favorite snack (DS will have fruit snacks and a smack bag of marshmallows, DD will have raisins and a fruit cup) they also get easter eggs filled with pretzel goldfish.
FFFC: I'm terrified of my glucose test Monday AM....even though I'm a STM and have done it before. Ugh. I just remember how crappy I felt all day last time, so I'm less than excited.
@MrsLa3 I couldn't agree more, but honestly I feel like EVERY holiday has become that way?? Like people sit around going, "how over the top can I make this day for my child?!"
My best friend is the classic over the top every single tiny holiday. You should have seen what her children got for Valentine's Day!!! LOL I was in shock but it makes her happy to do it. I'm a minimalist at heart, and my husband and I both find the 'hallmark making everything about junk/stuff' annoying. We plan on having an egg hunt outside or inside if bad weather, and mass on Sunday.
Late to the party, but @yellow1daisy I call the first month of DS's life "the period when I was terrified we'd ruined our lives." (And obviously, that little boy is my everything now.) I think our culture is entirely too dishonest about the complex feelings of becoming a parent, and the demands it makes on us as women, wives, individuals, employees, etc. So I find your honesty refreshing. I'm sorry you're having the anxiety, though. I'm also pretty nervous, even though this baby is very very wanted.
I think Easter baskets have gotten too much. My kids Easter baskets consist of a chocolate bunny, a book about Easter/Jesus, their favorite snack (DS will have fruit snacks and a smack bag of marshmallows, DD will have raisins and a fruit cup) they also get easter eggs filled with pretzel goldfish.
I feel this way too, and yet somehow there is a full shelf of crap to go in the boys' basket. I think I'm just picking up 1-2 things here or there and now there are Legos, books, and bubble guns. I think some stuff will stay on the shelf until Birthday season.
Plus the grandparents always send ridiculous packages around Easter. I really shouldn't even buy anything (except that we never know if the packages will get here in time.)
I think Easter baskets have gotten too much. My kids Easter baskets consist of a chocolate bunny, a book about Easter/Jesus, their favorite snack (DS will have fruit snacks and a smack bag of marshmallows, DD will have raisins and a fruit cup) they also get easter eggs filled with pretzel goldfish.
I agree with this! People are getting kids actual gifts for Easter now like it's Christmas or their birthdays and I remember being excited to get chocolate and maybe some bubbles or a coloring book at most.
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I think Easter baskets have gotten too much. My kids Easter baskets consist of a chocolate bunny, a book about Easter/Jesus, their favorite snack (DS will have fruit snacks and a smack bag of marshmallows, DD will have raisins and a fruit cup) they also get easter eggs filled with pretzel goldfish.
Guilty of this, too. We did get small presents as a child, so I didn't even realize what was happening until it was too late. I think it's because I refuse to get the kid any toys unless it is a holiday, and there are sooooo many things I want to get him. So I splurge on the holidays, and none of the rest of the time. To be fair, his "over-the-top" Easter is NOTHING compared to what some people post on FB.
Funny story re: Easter...when my oldest nephew was the only kid in my family, we we go to my grandmas every Sunday for family day. I don't even remember how it started, but someone my grandma ended up getting my nephew a small gift every week and hiding it in the freezer and my nephew thought it was the Easter bunny lol. Sounds so stupid to type that out.
@yellow1daisy , I'm right there with you. We were one and done and decided to have another to give DD a sibling, and with everything going the way it's going right now for me at work, I'm just so anxious and stressed out and feel like I'm in limbo because this just wasn't the right time. I know once the baby is here I'll feel a lot better (and I'll be sending resumes out the moment I hit maternity leave), but right now, i'm in a state of anxiety-inducing limbo
I'm right there with both of you @yellow1daisy and @satsumasandlemons. It's comforting to hear others feel this way too. I felt really guilty yesterday after admitting that I'm kind of feeling ambivalent about the baby lately...mostly because of work politics. The person I was talking to was like "but you'll have a baby! You're going to be a mom!" It was really frustrating to have my feelings minimized like that - and irritating for someone to assume my very real and practical concerns would just magically not matter because we will have a baby. I'm really grateful for all of the honesty on this board. Thank you ladies.
Thanks for all the input and helping me realize I'm not alone ladies. I found the first 6 months with my daughter were the worst (is that awful to say? Lol) but things definitely got a lot better from there. So I will think of it in terms of just having to survive for a few months. I can do it. We can all do it. Deep breaths.
ETA: forgot to answer @ginger1228. I did talk to DH about how I feel and he seemed surprised like "what? Why?" which honestly surprised me because I was sure he felt the same way. He's just been generally stressed with all we have going on I don't even know if he thinks about the fact that we are having a baby in 3 months. He's better than I am at just letting things go when he needs to relax (he falls asleep within a minute for example whereas I'm up listing all the things that I need to do in my head over and over for at least an hour before sleeping) and I think maybe he just brushes it off as something he doesn't need to worry about yet.
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@theweevee and @yellow1daisy, i could write, word for word, what you wrote and have it apply to me right now. And yes the first 6 mo were the worst and darkest.
i forget sometimes im pregnant at work and then I realize I'm going to be taking off in a few months and I'm like - oh. I'm not going to lie, having a kid at 31 really stalled my career so I'm really frantic about how my next few years are going to go.
Thanks for all the input and helping me realize I'm not alone ladies. I found the first 6 months with my daughter were the worst (is that awful to say? Lol) but things definitely got a lot better from there. So I will think of it in terms of just having to survive for a few months. I can do it. We can all do it. Deep breaths.
ETA: forgot to answer @ginger1228. I did talk to DH about how I feel and he seemed surprised like "what? Why?" which honestly surprised me because I was sure he felt the same way. He's just been generally stressed with all we have going on I don't even know if he thinks about the fact that we are having a baby in 3 months. He's better than I am at just letting things go when he needs to relax (he falls asleep within a minute for example whereas I'm up listing all the things that I need to do in my head over and over for at least an hour before sleeping) and I think maybe he just brushes it off as something he doesn't need to worry about yet.
It is not awful to say. It is way more common than discussed. It is my personal mission to tell anyone who will listen that this is a relatively common and normal emotion, after experiencing it myself and feeling like a monster. It is in the category of Things No One Ever Told Me.
I agree that people make too much out of Easter. Growing up, my parents didn't tell us about any of the mythical people including Santa. For Easter, we may have gone to church, had a dinner, dyed Easter eggs, did a hunt, and had a basket of candy and a chocolate bunny. It wasn't second Christmas.
I will tell my kids about Santa and the Tooth Fairy, but when they question it I'll tell them the truth. I don't see the point in keeping the belief going. Also, Santa will bring one or two presents. DH and I will get the credit for the good stuff!
I don't plan on being extravagant for any holiday, but I'm with you guys on crazy Easter is now. We got candy and little junk like bubbles and sidewalk chalk. I remember one year I got a CD, but we were teenagers and didn't get the other junk except maybe a bit of candy.
My parents never got us anything around Easter, but I do remember one year when I was maybe 13, I woke up and opened my bedroom door and found a trail of Reese's eggs that led to a chocolate bunny or something. It was seriously THE BEST. I always begged my mom to do it again, but she never did.
Easter was pretty low-key for us as well. Definitely always an Easter egg hunt with a pot of gold (aka chocolate, colouring books, sidewalk chalk etc.) at the end but I don't ever recall us getting anything big ... like a bike. (Yeah, people do that) I'm a Christian so I generally don't like how the focus is so much on material things.
The two times I've been in the building restroom this morning, someone has come in and liberally sprayed the air freshener that smells exactly like kitty litter. The second time, the lady walked in, sprayed, and walked out!!
I think I'm going to throw it away.
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I don't plan on being extravagant for any holiday, but I'm with you guys on crazy Easter is now. We got candy and little junk like bubbles and sidewalk chalk. I remember one year I got a CD, but we were teenagers and didn't get the other junk except maybe a bit of candy.
I'm struggling with this (and most other holidays but really just Easter/Christmas) for the future with my mom. Growing up, we did get more than just candy, etc for Easter, we usually got some spring clothes or a new bathing suit or something, but I feel like my mom has gone waaaaay overboard with my niece and nephew (who are now 5 and 7). She showed me over the weekend what she got them and it's like a whole spring wardrobe! I'm sure my brother/SIL appreciate it, but to me it's just way too much. And she knows I think it's way too much, but how does she downsize now for my LO when she's been doing this for years? Christmas is the same, waaaaay too many presents. DH and I are very against 'junk' and would probably not have room for half the stuff she buys, although the kids do love opening all the presents. Anyone have similar dynamics with pre-existing 'bad' habits and suggestions for change?
@CPR79 This is my first baby and the first grandbaby on both sides, so I don't have "proof" yet, but considering how they are all talking and acting so far (and how we were raised), I'm pretty sure this kid will be spoiled rotten and surrounded by toys and clothes even if DH and I never buy anything. We are always extremely grateful for the help, but its just too much sometimes! I have already limited my mother on how many stuffed animals she can buy every year (although it's still too many in my opinion, 2 a year) and tried to already make it clear that DH and I like to have stuff that we need and use all the time, and not just stuff everywhere. One thing I saw online for helping to curb this is to encourage "interaction" gifts instead of material ones. Like, take the kids to the zoo, get tickets to a show, go to a museum, etc. etc. for Christmas and other holidays and birthdays instead of buying more stuff.The sooner you say something and make it clear that you and DH are not going to just have all this stuff around and would appreciate the money being spent in other ways, the better. Try to keep the conversation focused on the positives (we want to teach our child to appreciate what they have, we want to encourage going out instead of having stuff, this is the best way to help us, etc. etc.) rather than a judgement on their lavishness. It's worked so far for us. We'll have to see where we are in a couple years lol.
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@kerils - I'm also having the first grandchild on both sides and am dreading all the junk gifts. I'm planning on asking for zoo memberships and stuff like that for xmas to help avoid some of that.
My mother means well, but she sends my cousins' kids junk and little for holidays. I know kids like that stuff, but we don't need it every time we turn around. She sometimes does the same for me and DH too - just to have something to open. Drives me crazy. I would rather have nothing than stuff I don't want/need bc I hate junk around.
@ginger1228 Haha I left this out, but Christmas is always a problem for us even as adults too. Both families just get us all this STUFF to open, and while we really appreciate the thought, it would be so much better for us if they got us stuff we actually need and can use, and no matter how much we convey what we actually need and can use, they can't help themselves. Like the Red Lobster gift cards. When I'm a vegan...... Then my family has a tradition of doing stocking gifts, but it ends up being 2 to 3 giant stockings stuffed with soaps and candy and pens and all kinds of junk like that. And they just refuse to buy us the stuff we truly use, and we end up with so much junk from it all. The best example up to this point of this problem with the toaster oven and stone cookie sheet that DH's aunt and uncle bought us. Super nice, but they're are both garbage. The stone went in the garbage the second I washed it, because when I tried to dry it, the towel fuzzies stuck all over it, and I was not dealing with it. The toaster oven is still alive at the moment, but its brand new and it just doesn't work right. It occasionally craps out and doesn't work at all, and for reasons I can't decipher, food goes from barely warm to burnt in triple time, but takes awhile to get warm in the first place. It drives me crazy, and will not be coming with us when we move. Please, buy us one quality gift over the ten mini gifts that are faulty and that we don't need.
Sorry, I got kind of rambly there. But it drives me so crazy. They're just wasting their money, we don't have stuff we need, I end up throwing it all out, and it all just happens again the next year. I'm definitely cheap and a minimalist, but when you get cheap stuff, you have to find the balance between cost and quality, and the stuff they buy is just too low on that scale.
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@kerils - I'm also having the first grandchild on both sides and am dreading all the junk gifts. I'm planning on asking for zoo memberships and stuff like that for xmas to help avoid some of that.
My mother means well, but she sends my cousins' kids junk and little for holidays. I know kids like that stuff, but we don't need it every time we turn around. She sometimes does the same for me and DH too - just to have something to open. Drives me crazy. I would rather have nothing than stuff I don't want/need bc I hate junk around.
So smart. We've been trying to do this recently. We also love restaurant gift cards to places that have a carry out option like Outback and Chili's so that we can have date nights in without having to cook!
@kerils - they buy you giftcards to places you can't even eat at?! Like giftcards are great, but they can't just buy one for a different place? They're so ridiculous!
@ginger1228 Yep. Again, there are places around here I can eat, they just don't ask or pay any attention. If I have to eat one more "salad" of iceburg lettuce and terrible grape tomatoes, I'm going to scream. I wouldn't even get anything, but it always makes everyone so uncomfortable when I don't eat so I sadly stomach it and complain to DH later. As for the shower, not really. I talked to my MIL about it, but she still thinks it'll be fine and just can't seem to wrap her head around the idea that it's not going to go well. SMIL is off on some crazy tangent about "rumors" about her, and no one knows what she is talking about. Now she wants to talk in person, but we aren't even going to see her until the shower, and I'm not having a conversation with her about whatever nonsense she has made up in her head during my shower. So, it's still as bad as it has always been. On the plus side, we're going to do a really cute meet the baby party with my NJ family in October, and I get to plan that and make decorations and everything, so I'm trying to focus on looking forward to and enjoying that and not worry about the shower.
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@kerils - ugh. I hate that things aren't any better for your shower. The meet the baby party sounds so fun though! I'm glad you have something to look forward to and to help keep your mind off the stress. Sounds really cute!
@ginger1228 it turns out maybe I did do something! MIL went to talk to the owner about how many people we would have, and he saud theyre going to open the doors ans rearrange the tables somehow. It isnt perfect but its something at least!
ETA: Its going to be whale themed. "Whale"come baby... I think its cute.
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@kerils Bummer. It sounds like they are set on making this about them instead of hearing your perspective. I'm sorry But the baby meet does sound really fun!
@kerils I hope this is one step towards the shower situation improving...now if they could just cook you something you'd like to eat! It just can't be that difficult to accommodate different dietary needs. They do it all the time for allergies and all restaurants, so they need to get over it, I think.
Also, re: gifts...I love the idea of "interaction gifts!" We also did a few things early in DS's life when it came to the big holidays. I picked a large and expensive item that we needed or wanted to get, and asked the grandparents if they were willing to split it with us. (Ex: the swing set, the nursery furniture, pool) These were gifts that would always be appreciated, instead of the fad of the year. It definitely focused everyone on quality, not quantity. We still get some other toys, and of course they add up, but it helped with moderation. If there wasn't a major item, I would try to make it easy by suggesting items or by giving the grandparents a spending idea, like, "Well, my mom is getting him x, so that will great because y." They got an idea of cost limits and it has helped slightly. I don't have a perfect solution, but those are some ideas. That said, we also pass down tons of stuff to a friend, and she'll pass it back for my next LO, and again to them. It helps for those things that have a short useful life, but a still awesome while they last.
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I shamefully have also not taken my prenatals much this pregnancy. I can barely admit it to myself.
Confession - I intentionally "forgot" to take something out for dinner because I want pizza.
My best friend is the classic over the top every single tiny holiday. You should have seen what her children got for Valentine's Day!!! LOL I was in shock but it makes her happy to do it. I'm a minimalist at heart, and my husband and I both find the 'hallmark making everything about junk/stuff' annoying. We plan on having an egg hunt outside or inside if bad weather, and mass on Sunday.
Plus the grandparents always send ridiculous packages around Easter. I really shouldn't even buy anything (except that we never know if the packages will get here in time.)
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ETA: forgot to answer @ginger1228. I did talk to DH about how I feel and he seemed surprised like "what? Why?" which honestly surprised me because I was sure he felt the same way. He's just been generally stressed with all we have going on I don't even know if he thinks about the fact that we are having a baby in 3 months. He's better than I am at just letting things go when he needs to relax (he falls asleep within a minute for example whereas I'm up listing all the things that I need to do in my head over and over for at least an hour before sleeping) and I think maybe he just brushes it off as something he doesn't need to worry about yet.
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i forget sometimes im pregnant at work and then I realize I'm going to be taking off in a few months and I'm like - oh. I'm not going to lie, having a kid at 31 really stalled my career so I'm really frantic about how my next few years are going to go.
I will tell my kids about Santa and the Tooth Fairy, but when they question it I'll tell them the truth. I don't see the point in keeping the belief going. Also, Santa will bring one or two presents. DH and I will get the credit for the good stuff!
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I think I'm going to throw it away.
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@CPR79 This is my first baby and the first grandbaby on both sides, so I don't have "proof" yet, but considering how they are all talking and acting so far (and how we were raised), I'm pretty sure this kid will be spoiled rotten and surrounded by toys and clothes even if DH and I never buy anything. We are always extremely grateful for the help, but its just too much sometimes! I have already limited my mother on how many stuffed animals she can buy every year (although it's still too many in my opinion, 2 a year) and tried to already make it clear that DH and I like to have stuff that we need and use all the time, and not just stuff everywhere. One thing I saw online for helping to curb this is to encourage "interaction" gifts instead of material ones. Like, take the kids to the zoo, get tickets to a show, go to a museum, etc. etc. for Christmas and other holidays and birthdays instead of buying more stuff.The sooner you say something and make it clear that you and DH are not going to just have all this stuff around and would appreciate the money being spent in other ways, the better. Try to keep the conversation focused on the positives (we want to teach our child to appreciate what they have, we want to encourage going out instead of having stuff, this is the best way to help us, etc. etc.) rather than a judgement on their lavishness. It's worked so far for us. We'll have to see where we are in a couple years lol.
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N born: June 30th, 2019
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(maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
My mother means well, but she sends my cousins' kids junk and little for holidays. I know kids like that stuff, but we don't need it every time we turn around. She sometimes does the same for me and DH too - just to have something to open. Drives me crazy. I would rather have nothing than stuff I don't want/need bc I hate junk around.
Sorry, I got kind of rambly there. But it drives me so crazy. They're just wasting their money, we don't have stuff we need, I end up throwing it all out, and it all just happens again the next year. I'm definitely cheap and a minimalist, but when you get cheap stuff, you have to find the balance between cost and quality, and the stuff they buy is just too low on that scale.
Friends since 2008
Started dating: July 1st, 2013
Engaged: July 1st, 2014
Married: July 1st, 2016
R born: July 8th, 2017
N born: June 30th, 2019
Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
(maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
Any updates on your shower fiasco?
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Friends since 2008
Started dating: July 1st, 2013
Engaged: July 1st, 2014
Married: July 1st, 2016
R born: July 8th, 2017
N born: June 30th, 2019
Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
(maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
ETA: Its going to be whale themed. "Whale"come baby... I think its cute.
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Started dating: July 1st, 2013
Engaged: July 1st, 2014
Married: July 1st, 2016
R born: July 8th, 2017
N born: June 30th, 2019
Baby #3 Due: July 7th, 2022
(maybe I only ovulate in October XD)
The whale theme is so cute! I love silly/clever sayings like that.
Also, re: gifts...I love the idea of "interaction gifts!" We also did a few things early in DS's life when it came to the big holidays. I picked a large and expensive item that we needed or wanted to get, and asked the grandparents if they were willing to split it with us. (Ex: the swing set, the nursery furniture, pool) These were gifts that would always be appreciated, instead of the fad of the year. It definitely focused everyone on quality, not quantity. We still get some other toys, and of course they add up, but it helped with moderation. If there wasn't a major item, I would try to make it easy by suggesting items or by giving the grandparents a spending idea, like, "Well, my mom is getting him x, so that will great because y." They got an idea of cost limits and it has helped slightly. I don't have a perfect solution, but those are some ideas. That said, we also pass down tons of stuff to a friend, and she'll pass it back for my next LO, and again to them. It helps for those things that have a short useful life, but a still awesome while they last.