So excited and cautiously optimistic! 8 Days past IVF transfer. Positive test 4 days after transfer. Set for beta tomorrow. All sorts of sleepy and throwing up my dinner. Even excited about that since I wasnt sick at all with my 2 miscarriages. Due day 8/27 but they warned me I would likely be induced early because of my age (way older mom to be).
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2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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@leekat14 Ouch! I'm sorry about your head and pride!
This will be pretty funny down the road. The nurse told me that the Dr is going to make it mandatory for everyone to lay down before shots now lol!
@wabash15 ugh sorry girl I was really hoping for SS status for you but glad you're jumping back in with a solid plan! I'm curious to see what my RE thinks about my lining. I would think it is thin because my periods are soooooo light like maybe one light day and 2 days spotting. Of course my OB never had any concerns.
@KristoKekerooni thanks for sharing!!
i just posted this in WTO but has anyone experienced some pain after an hsg? RE said to call if the pain felt worse than the procedure but I took 4 Motrin before so I think maybe it felt worse because the Motrin wore off? Had some cramping yesterday and maybe what felt like gas pain (from injecting the dye?) feel better today then I did yesterday. Still feel some soreness/pain in my uterus too. Is the spotting from pushing through the catheter? This was my first hsg so not really sure what to expect!
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@TravelingCouple @madspunk @KristoKekerooni @beachbunnyxo123 @wabash15 Thanks so much for the info, ladies! It really helps to hear your views--I am so glad I rejoined this board. I was looking up the side effects for Clomid last night and I read that there is an increased risk of cancer if you take it for longer than 6 months. After getting really freaked out about my mom who was on Clomid for over a year in the late 70s presumably before they knew about the cancer risk I put together that maybe the RE's push directly to IUI is because the Clomid is actually scarier than the procedure itself and better to maximize your chances if you're taking a drug where that's an issue. I still definitely understand why people would want a TI cycle or 2 after starting meds (I like the idea of that better as I'm sure most people do), but I definitely don't want one now. Once I explained this to MH he's now no longer pushing for a TI cycle. Anyway, thanks again so much for responding!
@beachbunnyxo123 We discussed the FSH test and she said that for Pituitary Pause folks it was useless because (in not so medical terms) my pituitary may not feel like talking to my ovaries on day 3 of my cycle whereas for other folks it's pretty consistent. Luckily since I am/was approaching ovulation during my US she was able to count the eggs she could see in each ovary on the screen and she concluded that although she could say nothing for egg quality of course the quantity of eggs is decent for my age and she thinks I will respond to the drugs.
@KristoKekerooni I love your list
@leekat14 Oh girl I hope you're ok! I passed out for the 23897234 vials of blood they took for my initial CD3 tests. That was not fun. I HATE passing out!
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@leekat14 Ouch, what a painful, and in hindsight, funny, story! I used to pass out anytime I donated blood, but I never have from a shot. Noted... Sit down when triggering, lol.
@beachbunnyxo123 I had some long-term pain, particularly on my left side. It never got too bad and didn't come even close to my CD1 cramps. It went away in about a day. I also spotted (and dye) for a few days after. Totally normal!
@leekat14 omg girl! Glad you're okay!
Wow. You guys. I have a friend who's been struggling to get pregnant for about 3 years but lives in England so we just chat over messenger about everything we're going through. She just told me she's pregnant. And I didn't want to punch someone! I actually smiled and I'm genuinely happy for her. I feel like something shifted in me yesterday, it's hard to explain. It's not a magical fix and I'm not saying I'm not going to have any hard days, but I feel like a weight has shifted (not OFF my shoulders, just differently). I'll take it.
@tamalahoops I actually think that giving up the alcohol is harder than the coffee. Alcohol is social for me whereas coffee is usually a solo thing. The biggest thing with coffee is that it's such a morning ritual and it's so nice to have a hot drink to start your day. So you can start swapping in other warm drinks to start. Like hot lemon water and tell yourself that if you still want coffee afterwards, you can have half a cup. Or start doing half-caf and cutting down until you're full decaf. I also really like doing decaf espresso drinks like lattes. The fact that it's a latte and that's a treat kind of offsets the being bummed about the no caffeine. (And yes, I do feel like an a-hole ordering a "Nonfat decaf vanilla latte" which I call a Little B**** Latte but the embarrassment is fleeting.
@JuneRoseRuby I am so sorry about your anxiety attack. I'm sorry your friend is going through this too but glad you have each other. So happy to hear the Clomid is working!!
@mrsdaddario FX that the wait seems short and gives you time to crystallize (aka snowflake-ify).
@laurad75 I hope that more follicles get with the program PDQ.
@eggplantface I'm soooo excited for you for Friday!
@leekat14 Aren't you glad they didn't make you do the shot on your own?
@LadyMillil I'm so sorry that you got bad news. But, I'm still glad that you're finally getting some forward momentum.
@safire3 FX for Thursday. For a good appointment and for a good open discussion afterwards.
@beachbunnyxo123 Did they mention anything to you about the tilted uterus? My last OB/Gyn mentioned it and the ARNP who did my antral follicle count mentioned it but they all just mention it in passing like "Oh, your second toe is longer than your big toe." Glad your HSG yesterday went well. Hope you're feeling 100% tomorrow.
@TravelingCouple I'm so glad that your first therapy session went so well. I hope that subsequent sessions will help you to find balance and methods of coping. Oh, and that you just get KU PDQ.
@vflux33 MH is working through some emotions with the IUI, too. I think one of my failures was that I've been keeping a lot of this to myself for this past year so while I've been gradually working through my feelings of inadequacy/failure and have spent all of this time coming to terms with IUI, H genuinely expected to leave the RE with a lecture on avoiding hot tubs and to keep trying for three more months. Uh. Whut? I didn't go to an RE to get now-now'ed. (Although some people must go in pretty damn clueless. I got asked by two people if I've been using OPKs. Who, with unexplained IF, gets to that point without at least dipping a Wondfo or two?) Initially they offered to do HSG + IUI this cycle and I was thrilled but I looked over at his shell-shocked face and said it looked like we'd be waiting one more to go to IUI. He's also mentioned feeling like he wouldn't be the one getting me pregnant (to which we discussed TI around IUI) and weird about someone else inseminating me. It's just tough. There are lots of emotions and unexpected emotions. You guys can put the brakes on just a little bit and do a monitored Clomid round to start. It can dry you out but there are plenty of people who have gotten KU with just Clomid and TI. I would just really focus on supporting CM if that's the case. Gallons of water, green tea, EPO, Mucinex, etc. I'm with @KristoKekerooni though and I just want to cut to the chase. After all of this waiting, I would like to just move forward.
@vintageandrea90 I don't know which faith you come from but my background and culture (I come from SE Idaho) is Mormon. In that culture, reproducing is a huge. There are people who are younger than me who now have seven kids. I also know someone who was in my graduating class who comes from a very devout family who recently announced that his wife was pregnant with their second. Via IVF. I was so proud of them for sharing their struggles and helping to nudge the culture. It must have been hard and I'm sure they have endured years of well-meaning terrible comments about their reproductive state and how they should be filling up a minivan and all sorts of crap. Hopefully people can start learning, little by little, how to be a bit more sensitive and kind.
@tamalahoops @hartmich @laurad75 @wabash15 @zwink1 @shortstack930 @safire3 @TravelingCouple @beachbunnyxo123 Thank you all so much for reassuring me about the HSG. I've been watching YouTube videos about people's experiences (I just started wanting to see the actual x-ray and how it looks if it's good so I can tell and not worry) and fell into the rabbit hole of suggested videos. I found out that I have the same person who did my antral follicle count. Which is nice because at least for that she was really great about talking me through everything that was showing up on the screen. So I think she'll be good about that for this, too.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
@KristoKekerooni Only the link to the first article worked for me, but I loved that one - especially because it's so focused on gratitude, and that's where I've been trying to put my focus lately. And, like the author of that article, I've been realizing lately that there are ways to be grateful about IF. I don't have to just be grateful about other things in my life and ignore IF. I can actually see the good things in it (not all the time but when I'm in a decent mood). I remember reading an article somewhere where the woman struggling with IF said when she felt like she wasn't moving forward and just wanted a baby in her arms already, she'd tell herself that what she's doing right now is preparing to be a mom. I keep thinking about that, and I've been trying to be grateful for the extra time IF has afforded me to prepare to be a mom. Since I was diagnosed I've been trying to eat healthier, get my anxiety under control, be a better wife, live in the moment more. All of those things will be so helpful if I am fortunate enough to have a baby some day.
@vflux33 That's good you got more information on Clomid and why IUI. I do always think it's better to do more with treatment than to do less. If TI doesn't work for us this cycle we will be moving on to IUI.
ETA: @leekat14 Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but since OPKs can detect HCG if the level is high enough, you would turn an OPK right now. And an HCG test. So what people will do is to test with a Wondfo pregnancy test every day from a certain day past trigger on, and save them so they can see the second line going away, and then hopefully darkening again. But, you want to be careful because different batches of tests/different concentrations of urine can get people's hopes up only to crush them when they do betas. Then again, I also know of people who have tested out the trigger just because it felt so dang good to finally see two lines on a test, even if it wasn't 'real'.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
We may have to drive two hours away either Saturday or Sunday for another follow up if they don't want me to wait until Monday to go back in to our local office.
So how about that faith/religion/etc thread? @madspunk @TravelingCouple @beachbunnyxo123 and whoever else?
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@leekat14 that's a great question! I'm still learning more about this myself! What does the trigger shot do? Does it help with O?
@TravelingCouple what size do they like to see them at? That's good that it's up from Monday! I hope you don't have to make the drive this weekend!
@KristoKekerooni sounds good to me!!
@beachbunnyxo123 the Trigger causes you to O, typically within 36 hrs but if your follies are extra large it may be as soon as 12hrs.
@TravelingCouple glad to hear your follies are growing all be it slowly, and hooray for a potential second follie. GL with your follow up scan!
ETA: @laurad75 in case life gets crazy on my end I wanted to tell you I'm thinking about you and your ER tomorrow! FX for those 3 follies. hugs
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
edited for wording
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@TravelingCouple Happy that the other side has joined the party! FX for good results on the repeat scan.
DH and I met with the urologist today. All DH's BW is normal. Despite what we were told before the urologist still thinks we are dealing with obstruction. He thinks there may be absence of the vas deferens on one side and unfortunately obstruction on the other side from a hernia repair DH had done as a baby. Apparently there is really no imaging you can do to confirm this and it still boils down to IVF after extracting sperm from the testicle or the epididymis but at least there should be sperm there. They can also attemp repair at the time of exploratory surgery (on the side damaged from the hernia repair) but repair is unlikely. I'm happy to know what it is although it still means IVF is the only option right now.
@safire3 I'm glad there is some relief in getting answers but I'm sorry to hear that IVF is the only option. Did they say when they would want to move forward with it?
So I just got a callback from my REs office about the rest of my BW. Vitamin D is still slightly low so he bumped me up to 2000 units a day. I'm confused about the difference between fsh and AMH. So fsh is 10.6 and I finally heard back about my AMH level today and they said it is normal 2.08. I haven't really been able to find information on high fsh and normal AMH, does anyone have any insight on this? I'm gonna speak more to my doc after our 7dpo BW too in 2 weeks.
@safire3 Good news that the urologist thinks there is sperm but I'm sorry IVF will be your only option. hugs
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Thank you @beachbunnyxo123 @safire3 @juneroseruby @antoto I know this gets said a lot, but at least there is this group to talk things out with.
@hartmich So many hugs. I completely am with you in regards to your beliefs and wishing you could find comfort in them the way others might. I hope you feel a little better soon and can remain focus on all of the promising things ahead of you right now. While I hope you are a SS who doesn't need IVF after all, at least there is some comfort in knowing that May will be here before you know it.
@safire3 I'm sorry that IVF is your only option right now but am glad you have some direction now, and that your H's bloodwork was normal.
@beachbunnyxo123 Bumping my Vitamin D supplement from 1000 iu to 2000 pushed my blood levels from 25 to 29 in a couple of months. This still falls in the "insufficient" range but it's getting there. Hopefully you see some results from the boost as well. You and I also have similar FSH and AMH numbers (for me it was 9.7 and 2.28) so I'm selfishly curious to see if you get answers with insight on your numbers.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
Take a look at my blog
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@JuneRoseRuby Yes I'm sure the fact that she also struggled with IF had something (or a lot) to do with how I felt. My pregnant sister posted a bump photo on Instagram last night (she and her DH just "thought" about it and got KU and I did have to just breathe and let that go and move on..)
@hartmich I'm so sorry for your BFN. It's not fair. I will say and encourage you not to judge your faith in comparison to anyone else's because I'll tell you right now, it's a daily struggle for me too. I believe in God with all my heart, but it doesn't mean I don't get angry or frustrated or question him on a daily basis. It is a constant struggle and effort to repeatedly give it to him over and over and over. It is so hard, I know. Some days I feel like I'm just floating along and don't know where my faith is. Just let yourself be wherever you are right now and know that it's ok. God does see you and he does love you. You can be angry and express that anger TO him too. Hugs girl. I'm so sorry for your BFN.
Nurse called and said they'd like us to come in on Saturday for my follow up scan and blood. I asked how much of a difference it would make at this point if we did wait until Monday and she said it could be possible that we miss the window to trigger, but it's fine it we want to wait. I gave all the info to DH to see what he thinks. From how I'm feeling in my gut, ovulation still feels far away to me but I know this is new territory with my first medicated cycle. It's probably wise if we just bite the bullet and go in on Saturday, despite the drive and possibility that they say "yup not ready yet, come back on Monday" anyway.
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Be good to yourself and treat yourself to something nice, even if its just a milkshake.
Married May 2014
TTC # 2 Since December 2021
Baby girl W born 2/2021
Our journey so far...
(tw loss & infertility)
Working with an RE since March 2016
2 failed TI cycles
3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017
23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal
Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17
BFP 4.21.17
MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey:
12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted!
5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house!
1.1.20 Homestudy process started
3.14.20 First social worker visit
5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test!
Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
Thank you so much guys. After all that we got the results of DH's second SA. I am very mad at the RE's office since I had offered to come get a copy of all his results and they said no and that they would fax everything over to the urologist themselves. Well they did not fax the repeat SA so after our visit we called and demanded it. Turns out there is sperm on the second sample, just very low count at 9 million and poor morphology. I just don't know what to think now. Maybe there is a partial blockage? We faxed the results to the urologist and are waiting for a call from him to see what he thinks. I felt so good having a plan for like 2 seconds and I don't know if this makes things better or worse. Ugh!
Eta @beachbunnyxo123 DH and I were thinking about doing his procedure in June or July so probably around then or IVF as well if that works with our RE. Our anniversary is in 2 months and we have a trip planned already so it would be hard to do it before then.