D sleeps in all diff positions at night. back.. side..tummy. right now we use the sleep sack and hr lays over a blanket. i figure it makes it a lil more comfy. planning on transitioning to blanket prob at 1 unless he starts to not like the sleep sack. during nap time i usually put a blanket low on him or nothing.
I just had to share our sleep training experience from this past weekend. Our Lo is six months old and over 21 lbs and was still wanting to eat at like 10-11, 1, then 4. I just was getting to the point where I just could not do it anymore, was soo exhausted at work. So on Friday we decided (our pediatricians blessing too told us he needs to stop eating at night) to stay strong and not feed him...make it till at least 1 ish and then slowly increase the time. So Fri night he woke up around his normal time 10ish and my husband went in and tried to calm him and he cried and cried but eventually went back to sleep then woke up around 130ish we let him cry a while and then I caved and fed him and then he slept till 6. Sat night he woke up at 10 and we tried soothing him and he just lost his S*** I had also gone in which I think made him more mad..he cried hysterically till 1130 then fell asleep and then slept till 3. ( this was soo hard and I myself was crying listening to him) I then fed him at 3 and he slept till 630. Last night he woke up at 10 and 12 but whimpered for minute and went right to sleep on his own then was up at 330 and then I fed him. I hope were making progress!!! Ill eventually need to kick the 330ish feed too but Im content from going to 2-3 feeds a night to one. He was so happy this morning too. For naps too I let him fuss and put himself to sleep..hed typically cry 5-15 mins and seemed to nap longer than his normal 30 min cat naps.
Pretty sure E is never going to sleep more than 2 hours at a time. Time to make peace with it I guess. We've tried everything I can think of, and our pedi has no more advice that I haven't already taken. Guess we just need to wait this out-it's been almost 4 months of this crap.
@schaze Are y'all sleeping in the same room? My friend had this same problem until her son was 8 months and they went on vacation. She had to put him down in the room next door and he slept 10 hours for the first time ever. Ever since then it's been great. She never thought sleeping apart would be the key. Maybe same problem. If not, I'm so sorry. You're one strong mama!
No blankets here either, but she loves her sleep sacks! I do throw a lovey in there with the little blankie attached. She snuggles it almost daily when falling asleep. Sometimes she seems to use it as a pillow, lol.
Oh man, @schaze. I have a girlfriend that's in the same boat with her 11 month old. Some babies are just frequent walkers I guess. I've resolved myself to the fact that we too probably won't have a 8 hour+ straight sleeper for sometime either. For the most part she's down to just the one wake. Is what it is...we've learned to deal with it!
Thanks everyone on the blanket info! I had originally planned to wait until 1, so I'll continue to wait!
Also I ust the the other day I started keeping a really small lovey in his crib and tonight I laid him down awake and he fell asleep with no tears. I think he just played with it until falling asleep, which he did at nap time also. Definitely beats 15+ minutes of crying. I'm really hoping this might help cut down the 4 night feedings so he can soothe himself a little...
We are on night 4 of sleeping in the pack n play. He is still getting up every 2 to 3 hours but it's nothing too awful. He does go a solid 4 hours in the morning though, which is nice because I get hot coffee lol. Naps in the crib are also going really well. Here's to hoping it's going well.
Elise is having a strange week. She keeps waking up at 5am and then refuses to take her morning nap. I have NO clue why. My only guess was teething, but I don't see anything trying to come through anymore. She was taking perfect naps before this!
Same here. We had stellar sleep from Thursday-Sunday. I thought we were turning a corner...and now we are crashing and burning. Leap 6 maybe? Last night she was up at 910, 945, 12, 1230, 100. 130, 315, and 645 for the day.
Night 4 of sleep training and I have hope! DD2 went to bed at 8, I dreamfed her at 10, I heard her wake up 1 time but she didn't cry and I didn't get out of bed, she woke up at 6 AM and I fed her, she went right back to bed. After usually waking up 4-7 times per night, I feel like a new woman! Now I'm pumping and hoping to build up my freezer stash.
Oh my goodness. She has been up 4 times so far. I honestly don't know what to do. I went in and gave her Tylenol as a last resort. Please please be teeth.
After a week of decent sleep and successful transition to the PNP...last night was a nightmare. He went down at 730pm, which is his normal. He woke up at 830. I tried everything to get him back asleep with no success. He was playful and talking up a storm. By 10 I gave up and brought him out to the living room. He played for an hour. At 1130 I needed to toothpick my eyes open so I nursed him and he finally zonked. And we slept on the couch until 1230. He got up twice to nurse but wouldn't go to sleep in his PNP so he slept curled up against my chest, rubbing my chest and face. It instantly put me to sleep lol. He's been down for over 2 hours and I'm guzzling coffee...
Same nightmare sleep here. The last week he has not truly gone down until 11:30 or midnight. Then, he'll sleep until 3:30, wake to nurse, then sleep until 645 when he's up for the day. This is after 4 days of 11.5 of straight sleep.
For moms that have sleep trained, did your LO cry, like really cry? I mean crying hard screaming making themselves sweat? I just want to make sure it's normal for LO to be crying like the way she is. When you started sleep training, did you also do the same thing for nap time? Also, did you do the same thing when they woke up in the MOTN? How did you battle their startle reflexes and putting their legs in the air when starting to fall asleep? I just want to hire someone to come and do this part for me .
@Ladybug2821 Baby J didn't cry super hard, but it was loud. She is a whole lot better 3 months post. I did it with all her naps and her night time. I didn't start the MOTN until maybe a month later once she was used to the CIO. It does get easier. I put her down now and she sometimes cries but often she just talks, rolls around and boom asleep. I will say I got lucky she only cried a max of 20 minutes otherwise I don't know if I could've survived.
@babycakesday LO cries pretty hard and gets worked up. The whole process last night of letting her cry and me checking on her and then eventually just patting her and shushing her took an hour but today she wasn't having it for naps. She just cried so hard she made herself super hot and sweaty. How old was Baby J when you sleep trained?
I did the Sleep Lady's Sleep Shuffle. She suggests starting with training for bedtime because that is when baby is most tired. When DD cried really hard I would pat and shush her. If she was crying the hardest possible I picked her up until she calmed down and then put her back down.
I did the Sleep Lady's Sleep Shuffle. She suggests starting with training for bedtime because that is when baby is most tired. When DD cried really hard I would pat and shush her. If she was crying the hardest possible I picked her up until she calmed down and then put her back down.
I will look into that. Thanks! How long did this approach take?
We started at 6 months and night time was significantly better the 3rd night with DD1. We just started working with DD2 on less wake ups at night and the 4th night was better.
I started the sleep lady shuffle (book hasn't arrived yet) and feel like it won't work for us. going into her room and not picking her up just pisses her off even more and she gets hysterical. I've resorted to letting her cry for a max of 20-30 mins then going in. She has gotten pretty good at putting herself back to sleep. I don't go in motn right away unless I know it is bottle time, however her night time intake has been pretty inconsistent lately...thinking we may be able to drop the feeding soon.
I did see that it was a full moon this weekend...just saying...cause our Saturday night was crap too.
I'm with pp. we stopped swaddling before sleep training. He had started rolling over around 3 months and the pediatrician said to stop swaddling when he rolls over. We started sleep training around 6 months.
All last week DS was sleeping decently in his pack pnp at night. It was wonderful. Then it stopped. Up every hour or not sleeping at all. We spent 2 nights on the couch with him on my chest because it's the only way he would sleep. However I do not sleep that way haha. So, last night I put him in his crib in his own room. I slept on the spare bed that's in there. He slept great! He naps great in his crib too. So I'm thinking maybe the way the pnp squeaks and wiggles a little he doesn't like. I'm going to try this for a few nights then move the crib into my room. I'm still a nervous mom about him sleeping in a room opposite of me. Whatever works, eh?
@DachshundMomma I always said she would be sleeping on her own by month six and she's sleeping in her crib in our room still. No end in sight. I'm not ready.
M did not take an afternoon nap. Typically her bedtime is 8-9ish. So at 7, when she started acting tired I put her down. She woke up 10, and I let her CIO. It took 45 minutes. But I knew if I got her up that late, it would have been all bad. She fell back to sleep and didn't get up until 5. Slow and steady seems to be the theme at our house. I'm happy that we finally figured out a gentle sleep training that's working for us. And that we waited until she seemed ready instead of pushing it. Today I'll just drink coffee because it tastes good
@ldsjm123 - Love it! I'm in a similar boat. The past 2 weeks I realized I was so exhausted and was making gobs of mistakes at work (I sent my boss an email with no text...duuh)...I think between that and keeping the journal at my bed of when she wakes up and realizing that it was 100% pattern and she didn't actually need anything told me she was ready and really just training me to go hold her. I think I just needed to feel confident she didn't actually need me and commit to both of us that I would be consistent with her. After letting her cio for about a week (she never took longer than 20-30 mins...IF she wakes up it is usually within the first 30 mins of laying her down and it takes her maybe 5-10 mins to go back to sleep and all of the random middle of the night wake ups are gone! She gets up between 3-5 to eat and with a sopping wet diaper then sleeps until 7-730. I feel like my nights/mornings are finally predictable again! And I feel human!
@LDSJM123@kmurdock925 When you first put them to bed, are you putting them to sleep first and then laying then down? Or are you doing the drowsy but awake?
@ladybug2821 - I tried the drowsy but awake and she was not a fan. She screamed and grabbed my arm and hung on for dear life. It didn't feel right for us and I enjoyed the snuggles of rocking. We have (this is the one thing I can say I have always been consistent with) a VERY predictable bedtime routine, go upstairs for bath between 7-730, I wash my face and get in my PJs while she plays in her jumper, then she gets her bath, then while I'm putting on her pjs (in my room) i turn the lights off, she gets a bottle in my bed with me (to separate bottle from rocking/bedtime in her room), then we snuggle in my bed for about 10-15 minutes, go rock in her room until she is asleep then I lay her down. After a few nights (a week today) of being consistent about not going in if she starts crying she is about 50/50 on waking up within the first 30 minutes, and like I said...if she does wake up it doesn't take more than 10 minutes of crying/fussing usually for her to fall back asleep.
After trying the sleep shuffle of staying in her room and putting her down drowsy but awake I realized it wasn't for us...and I think that may have played into my being inconsistent with her because I wasn't comfortable with the method and S was so unhappy doing it that way.
@LDSJM123@kmurdock925 When you first put them to bed, are you putting them to sleep first and then laying then down? Or are you doing the drowsy but awake?
We transitioned from cosleeping. So the first week or two, we held her until she fell asleep then put her in her crib. Now we lay her down drowsy but awake. Unless she falls asleep nursing. Holding her until she fell asleep seems to help the transition. I also made sure she always had the same blanket (we have 2 made of the same fabric). That little bit of consistency seemed to be what she needed. During the holding until she fell asleep phase, we also kept an eye on the clock and her tired signs so we knew what to look for when we switched to drowsy but awake.
Ditto to the blanket! She has the same lovie (I believe we own 7 or 8 of them...ha) every time she goes to sleep whether it is a nap or bedtime. I keep one on the glider in her room, the recliner in the living room, and in her diaper bag (maybe a little neurotic about it...)
@ladybug2821 - I tried the drowsy but awake and she was not a fan. She screamed and grabbed my arm and hung on for dear life. It didn't feel right for us and I enjoyed the snuggles of rocking. We have (this is the one thing I can say I have always been consistent with) a VERY predictable bedtime routine, go upstairs for bath between 7-730, I wash my face and get in my PJs while she plays in her jumper, then she gets her bath, then while I'm putting on her pjs (in my room) i turn the lights off, she gets a bottle in my bed with me (to separate bottle from rocking/bedtime in her room), then we snuggle in my bed for about 10-15 minutes, go rock in her room until she is asleep then I lay her down. After a few nights (a week today) of being consistent about not going in if she starts crying she is about 50/50 on waking up within the first 30 minutes, and like I said...if she does wake up it doesn't take more than 10 minutes of crying/fussing usually for her to fall back asleep.
After trying the sleep shuffle of staying in her room and putting her down drowsy but awake I realized it wasn't for us...and I think that may have played into my being inconsistent with her because I wasn't comfortable with the method and S was so unhappy doing it that way.
I've been considering the sleep lady shuffle but there is just something holding me back from starting it. We have a pretty consistent routine but she is in the middle of a leap so I think that's why it's been more difficult lately.
Yup- that is what I was going to try. I read the first 2 chapters that you can get free from her website and ordered the book (not here yet- at least I only paid 29 cents for a used copy). After about an hour the first night I realized it wasn't for us. I noticed that she cried much harder with me in the room and not picking her up...and honestly...seeing her reach for me and not picking her up tore my heart out but I knew something had to be done. She needed the rest as much as I did so we tried the cio and I set the limit of 20 minutes of crying unless at the 20 minute mark she was down to light fussing I would let her go longer. It was SO hard...and I looked at the clock the second i heard her cry because 2 minutes felt like 2 hours. It only took a few days of it being rough before she caught on and both of us are happier for it! As weird as it sounds...she is even pooping more regularly now...
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Oh man, @schaze. I have a girlfriend that's in the same boat with her 11 month old. Some babies are just frequent walkers I guess. I've resolved myself to the fact that we too probably won't have a 8 hour+ straight sleeper for sometime either. For the most part she's down to just the one wake. Is what it is...we've learned to deal with it!
Also I ust the the other day I started keeping a really small lovey in his crib and tonight I laid him down awake and he fell asleep with no tears. I think he just played with it until falling asleep, which he did at nap time also. Definitely beats 15+ minutes of crying. I'm really hoping this might help cut down the 4 night feedings so he can soothe himself a little...
He went down at 730pm, which is his normal. He woke up at 830. I tried everything to get him back asleep with no success. He was playful and talking up a storm. By 10 I gave up and brought him out to the living room. He played for an hour. At 1130 I needed to toothpick my eyes open so I nursed him and he finally zonked. And we slept on the couch until 1230. He got up twice to nurse but wouldn't go to sleep in his PNP so he slept curled up against my chest, rubbing my chest and face. It instantly put me to sleep lol. He's been down for over 2 hours and I'm guzzling coffee...
I feel you @shaylalr
I did see that it was a full moon this weekend...just saying...cause our Saturday night was crap too.
She was unswaddled by then. We stopped swaddling her a little bit after 3 months.
So, last night I put him in his crib in his own room. I slept on the spare bed that's in there. He slept great! He naps great in his crib too. So I'm thinking maybe the way the pnp squeaks and wiggles a little he doesn't like. I'm going to try this for a few nights then move the crib into my room. I'm still a nervous mom about him sleeping in a room opposite of me.
Whatever works, eh?
After trying the sleep shuffle of staying in her room and putting her down drowsy but awake I realized it wasn't for us...and I think that may have played into my being inconsistent with her because I wasn't comfortable with the method and S was so unhappy doing it that way.