February WTO

SP128 · February 2017

@NYTino24 That flow sounds miserable. Hope you get some relief soon.

NYTino24 · February 2017

@SP128 I don't even want to move, much less get up and walk around. I have to call the hematologist tomorrow to get his office to send visit notes to MFM anyway, so I may ask if there is anything that he can prescribe to lessen the bleeding. In the past I've had Amicar and DDAVP / Stimate for surgery, so we will see. He may say not to do anything because we need to repeat the repeated loss panel bloodwork in 4 weeks.

SP128 · February 2017

@NYTino24. Ugh. Are you still going into work? You're a teacher rt ?

vlagrl29 · February 2017

I use tampons except at night. I have 3 days light spotting, 3 days flow and 3 days light spotting. Fun! I don't think tampons make it longer.

NYTino24 · February 2017

@SP128 I am a teacher. I have been at work, but need to take today off. I didn't think it could get worse than yesterday, but it did. Usually CD2 is my worst, but CD3 is pretty awful right now.

TScalei · February 2017

Im sorry @NYTino24 - I hope you feel better soon!

NYTino24 · February 2017

Thanks @Tscalei. Since my BP isn't low and I'm not in pain, OB says to just hydrate and monitor. I would have to go to the ER if it gets worse. Waiting to hear from hematologist. They all love to "wait and see".

justsuzie · February 2017

@NYTino24 Perfect excuse to sit around and relax. Find some shitty movie or tv show and just veg! I am watching gilmore girls from the beginning and it's actually a great distraction.

I had my LH surge Peak today which means I should O tomorrow. We are ntnp but it's good to know I will possibly 0 given my CP last cycle.

NYTino24 · February 2017

@JustsuzieWell the hematologist basically broke up with me. He said he has reached the limit of his expertise and wants me to see a hematology specialist (which seems like an oxymoron) so I still have no answers.

I'm eating cookies and watching This is Us.

SP128 · February 2017

@NYTino24 well at least there is someone else's to go to..... my go to trashy tv was teen mom og when I wasn't going through mc and the weeks afterwards.

brooklyngirl18 · February 2017

I'm sorry to all the ladies suffering with AF and waiting for AF, it's truly the worst. I feel like generally my period is lighter and shorter post loss, silver lining? I'm a tampon girl but I've thought about trying a diva cup. let me know how you guys like it.

AFM- I had a follow up ultrasound this morning, i go back friday with a tentative plan of iui saturday and monday. my dr noted I have a lot of follicles and warned me about the 'multiples' talk we'll have on friday. scared the crap out of me.

vlagrl29 · February 2017

@NYTino24- that is an oxymoron. sorry and kudos to you for watching this is us as I probably won't even watch it until after our next kid is born. lol

@justsuzie is that an early O? Did you just have the CP last week?

justsuzie · February 2017

I don't even know what's normal anymore. Can you have an LH opk positive when you aren't Oing? I didn't chart this cycle and now I'm kicking myself. Now I'm wondering if maybe the Hcg isn't completely out of my system and that's turning it positive ? Frustrating. My number was so low that I assumed it would be out of my system super quick.

TScalei · February 2017

@NYTino24 - I love This is Us - I find that show almost therapeutic. I wish i had a dr like their dr!

@brooklyngirl18 - That is good news - fx for you this cycle!

@justsuzie - Ugh - Im sorry!

NYTino24 · February 2017

@justsuzie My OPKs were positive until after I ovulated this cycle, but were positive the entire cycle when I was KU. The speed LH drops is proportional to how high it was. Mine was 361 the day after loss (probably dropped a lot in the 4 days of bleeding before) and was 53 and 0 the next two weeks.
@vlagrl29 I ask coworkers if there will be any triggers before watching.
@brooklyngirl18 Yay for IUI!!

amberruka · February 2017

P and G but I'm sorry @NYTino24 you are having to go through this and hope you get some answers soon....

justsuzie · February 2017

So basically I'm not going to know when I O until I get AF. Back to cluelessness. Let's hope ignorance is bliss.

vlagrl29 · February 2017

@justsuzie my bet is you still have HCG in your system as you only need an 8 to turn it positive is what I've been told. Actually when I was doing OPKs in December I got 3 days in a row of positives - I was actually pregnant and it was picking it up.

justsuzie · February 2017

@vlagrl29 How long after your CP did you O? I didn't start OPKS, Charting/temping until after my ectopic so I don't really know much about my cycle yet. I just checked again and I still have a positive OPK which makes me think you are right and I still have HCG in my system.

vlagrl29 · February 2017

@justsuzie - I got my BFP on Dec 22nd around the time I was supposed to ovulate. I was using OPKs so I could get my Progesterone tested for fertility but it picked up the pregnancy. The CP was confirmed last week of the year and real bleeding started first week of the year. I did not want to use OPKs any more so I didn't track in January. I still believe I did ovulate on schedule because I felt watery CM mid Jan. I will be using OPKs this month only for that Progesterone test this month.

My first beta was 141, 2nd was around 350, and 3rd was in the upper 200s. I had 2 more blood draws after that until it hit 2.

Mommyamp · February 2017

I'm having opk issues right now as well. Cp 1/9. Hcg was down <2 on 1/16. Bbt confirmed o on 2/6 (cd29). Positive opk 2/6, 2/7, 2/8. They were gradually darkening but still negative prior to 2/6. No clue why they are still blatantly positive

justsuzie · February 2017

@Mommyamp so frustrating, right? I think I'm just going to ride this cycle out and start fresh next cycle with tracking. I can't rely on cm because I don't really have that consistently. Hopefully you'll regulate soon too.

Mommyamp · February 2017

I've got cm out the yin yang. It's ridiculous. I'm just glad I finally o'd so I am on my way to af and hopefully a normal cycle.

NYTino24 · February 2017

@Mommyamp It's totally possible to get KU two or so weeks after a MC. In fact, my current thinking (after a possibility suggested by my OB) is that I had a CP and then got KU the next cycle, which ended in my MC at 8 weeks. Here are my OPKs and charts from both cycles.

Before BFP (wish I kept / took a pic of those OPKs)

BFP / MC cycle

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/do/4tncylgl851g.png

The positive HPT were after MC while tracking HCG to 0. These are now old, but I still had a very faint positive on CD13 and in the past thought what I was seeing was an evaporation line. Ignore the notes. Those were for DH. Now I know I probably had a CP between the similar charts, the HPT / OPK, the slightly longer LP, and irregular spotting / AF length.
Post MC

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/59/u9ycxvjs6h5b.png

Mommyamp · February 2017

I took an hpt about a week ago and it was neg. It's too soon post o to take another one. I'll try again next weekend. I'm hoping I'm ku again this soon but we'll see.

vlagrl29 · February 2017

I want to get KU this month

that is all - dh and I have a plan of BD 3 times a week all month long. That started last night.

liz4382 · February 2017

For those tracking your first cycle after MC, what day did you count as cycle day 1? I think AF is about to come and I want to plug it into my app accurately. I know this cycle isn't necessarily "normal," but I want to log it right. Thanks!

vlagrl29 · February 2017

@liz4382 cd1 is the day the real flow starts. Not spotting

liz4382 · February 2017

@vlagrl29 thanks--That makes sense to me with a regular period but just not sure how to figure it out with my M/C...meaning, do I log that as a "period," and what day to count as CD1 since I bled several days before the M/C actually happened.

Mommyamp · February 2017

I counted the first day of bleeding. This time around I spotted for only a few hours before it switched to heavy bleeding so it was the same day.

vlagrl29 · February 2017

yes day 1 is when the bleeding of a mc starts. That's what my ob told me

RiverSong15 · February 2017

@liz4382 I guess it depends on how much time passed between when you started bleeding and when you miscarried. With my second miscarriage, I bled lightly off and on for two weeks before the heavy bleeding and MC actually happened. I logged the actual MC as CD1 (and FF has an option to mark the cycle as a MC). I ovulated about 3 weeks after I actually MCd. That first cycle after a MC can be really wonky, so it can mess up your "averages". My OB benched me that cycle after MC anyway, so I don't think it really mattered which day I chose as CD1.

liz4382 · February 2017

Thanks--that helps!

amberruka · February 2017

Please keep scrolling if you don't want to hear me vent, I totally understand....

I won't be joining in TWW this month. DH's skin lesions were healing but we were being careful to wait until CD 14 right before I left this weekend. Did it with a condom on Cd 12 to clear the pipes and not irritate the skin. So yesterday, CD14, some EWCM, I get home from work...and they are tearing again. He begs me to wait until I get back on Monday and I just burst into tears (something I NEVER do), just blubbery about maybe the first time it was an accident and what if it never happens again for us. Which of course, absolutely kills DH since he hates to see me upset. I know if we did last night it would have made it worse and who knows how long it would take to heal, I was just having a bad TTC day. And of course, before I just left to go the airport now, more EWCM than I've had in. Months. So F YOU Mother Nature!!!

Thank you. If you finished reading you get a cookie. I can't bitch about this IRL, thanks so much for understanding.

dpjennifer · February 2017

@amberruka Sorry about the rough TTCAL day.

It sucks when you're trying and things don't seem to line up. It's bad enough we're all going through losses and feeling the loss of time as well, but to have other life events 'stall' your plans really sucks! Hope you have better TTCAL days ahead!

TScalei · February 2017

Im sorry @amberruka - its so hard when things out of your control affect ttcal. Its like really universe - what more do you want me to do?

vlagrl29 · February 2017

oh that sucks so bad @amberruka - adding insult to injury with all the EWCM. Hopefully next cycle.

FWIW - I cry a lot more than I thought I would ever do. It's either
becuase I start spotting or because AF starts or randomly because of my loss.

RiverSong15 · February 2017

I'm so sorry @amberruka. This whole process just sucks. Hugs to you and your DH.

brooklyngirl18 · February 2017

@amberruka I'm so sorry, big hugs

SeriouslySirius · February 2017

@amberruka I am so sorry, is there anything he can do/is doing to help them heal or is it just something that takes time? First thing that came to mind is something we did with DS when he had bad diaper rash. Have him get some extended nakey time to help it air out and reduce any friction that clothes could be causing.

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