@NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot I do plan on using oils with baby, but if thats the case, ill wait till 6 mo to diffuse. As for topically, i wasn't planning until they get older.
Good call. I wasn't singling out a fellow scrunchy mom. I thought the EO opinion was the easiest to address since the folks mentioning on the thread fell into the scrunchy category instead of the anti-vax category. I generally distrust anything EO, but since they wont affect herd immunity, it's a "you do you" thing.
@NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot I do plan on using oils with baby, but if thats the case, ill wait till 6 mo to diffuse. As for topically, i wasn't planning until they get older.
Good call. I wasn't singling out a fellow scrunchy mom. I thought the EO opinion was the easiest to address since the folks mentioning on the thread fell into the scrunchy category instead of the anti-vax category. I generally distrust anything EO, but since they wont affect herd immunity, it's a "you do you" thing.
Haha, that's a good point about herd immunity. I'm sure you saw my shpeal there about the EO. I love ours. I'm not about to trust some oil over actual medicine if needed though. I had a friend who is super crunchy and would give me a hard time about taking advil for headaches. she'd suggest alternative medicines. Um...you try having a debilitating tension headache and killing it with some herbs and what nots. Not happening.
And now you understand my conflict of lurking and TRYING so hard to only lurk.
I really don't lurk our boards looking for drama, I genuinely try to read all the threads so that I can get to know members on our boards! Hence the reason I won't hijack their crunchy space if they want to discuss it!
I've also been bumping while eating my Sour Cream and Cheddar Ruffles. But hey, they were the baked version, that's healthier right?!
Married 03.09.09 Sweet Baby H 12.21.11 Sassy Baby P 03.26.14 Little Brother Due 05.22.17
I made brownies, hid them ,and refused to share or even admit that I actually made them.
I added a brownie order to our weekly milk delivery and forgot about it until DH went to get the milk off the porch this morning and was all excited. I was angry at myself for forgetting to hide them before he saw!
OH NO! Hahaha In that case you be gracious and give DH one and then hide them anyway!!!
@NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot THANK YOU! Everytime EO's have been brought up with babies I can feel my bp rise. I totally believe they have their place, but on a baby is not one. It's a great reason why so much research with anything that starts to be crunchy needs to be done. I have a blend I diffuse when I'm super congested and medication isn't fully helping yet, but refuse to do so when my friends 5 yo is over because one oil shouldn't be in use at her age, no matter how innocent it may seem.
For those loving the Moana soundtrack, it is great and considerably better than Frozen. But when you have had it on a constant loop for over a month and your child demands that you only song certain character parts of the soundtrack you will be singing a different tune.
Also DD will only respond to being called Moana now and introduces herself as that when people ask. She also calls her dad Maui.
I miss out on a lot here, but reading through it made me super happy. I haven't checked out the crunchy thread, but I'm definitely headed that direction now! Also, "scrunchy" is the best term I've heard in a while. I would identify as scrunchy. I side-eye things that are too out there (see most of the topics in the July 2017 eco friendly thread)
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@NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot THANK YOU! Everytime EO's have been brought up with babies I can feel my bp rise. I totally believe they have their place, but on a baby is not one. It's a great reason why so much research with anything that starts to be crunchy needs to be done. I have a blend I diffuse when I'm super congested and medication isn't fully helping yet, but refuse to do so when my friends 5 yo is over because one oil shouldn't be in use at her age, no matter how innocent it may seem.
Just curious, what oil is it?
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
@PartiallyDomesticated I'm not completely sure (it's been a year since I've needed the blend) but I think it was tea tree, although that one isn't so innocent is it? Maybe it was spearmint or eucalyptus...it was a minty one. If I can figure it out this weekend, I'll let you know.
I use my Vicks vaporizer befor 6 months if baby's is congested. It has the eucalyptus pads that help clear the congestion. However with that said I would probably get major side eye because it's not an actual EO and probably chemical filled . That said I don't rub anything on baby and I make sure it's never too strong. However DD was born in the middle of winter and went to daycare so she caught some colds.
FFFC: I am counting down to DD's bedtime for 2 reasons, 1. She's being a grouchy little turd, and 2. I want the ice cream I have in the freezer and I think sharing is highly overrated.
@BeachMommy2B to be fair the only chemical filled thing in Vicks is the petroleum jelly. The rest is just eucalyptus and menthol (which shouldn't be used On a child under 2 even the vaporiser) I didn't know that till recently though so no side-eye from me. Under 6 months you should only use the vaporiser with no additives in it
Me - 22 | DH - 32 | Married - 24 May 2014 DS - January 2014
TTC#2 - December 2015
BFP - 6 March 2016 | MC Confirmed - 21 March 2016 TTCAL | April 2016 CP | June 2016 CP | July 2016
This almost makes me want to look at what was in the "baby Vicks" I used when kid 1 was little but FFFC I don't really care, it seemed benign enough and baby daddy MD didn't say a word haha.
I guess my FFFC is that I side-eye EO but love me some Vicks when I'm sick. I also use baby Vicks (which is supposedly ok under 2) on DD's chest when she's sick. I don't diffuse the Vicks for kids. I know they do nothing, but I love the soothing sensation.
I ate oatmeal with flax and brewers yeast like it was my job (plus fenugreek and blessed thistle and goat something or other) and it did a whole lot of nada.
This almost makes me want to look at what was in the "baby Vicks" I used when kid 1 was little but FFFC I don't really care, it seemed benign enough and baby daddy MD didn't say a word haha.
I think the baby Vicks is approved because it doesn't have the eucalyptus in it? Off to go look...
Found it: "The baby version of Vicks is more delicate than the adult version, and it is not medicated. Though it does contain a very small amount of the eucalyptus oil, it does not contain the strong camphor and menthol. It works like an aromatherapy balm with lavender and rosemary, which are both gentle on your baby's skin and have a lovely calming scent." It also says it's safe for babies over 3 months.
Married 03.09.09 Sweet Baby H 12.21.11 Sassy Baby P 03.26.14 Little Brother Due 05.22.17
I ate oatmeal with flax and brewers yeast like it was my job (plus fenugreek and blessed thistle and goat something or other) and it did a whole lot of nada.
But any excuse for ice ice cream isn't terrible!
I was just going to say that oatmeal and fenugreek don't actually work. That's not to say I didn't use it ask an excuse to eat tons of oatmeal chocolate cookies and no bake cookies post partum. I'll try it again this time, just for science.
@hp_momma omg the baked cheddar sour and cream ruffles are my new favorite thing! I ate a whole bag by myself in two sittings...oops...
my FFFC: I work from home, and this afternoon I got a major craving for some fresh hot chocolate chip cookies. I was supposed to be on phone duty, but I turned it off and took a 20 minute break to go make cookies. No one noticed and I was much happier
@BeachMommy2B from what I've read and understand eucalyptus and eucalyptus EO are not always the same, or any other EO. How it's used can get different active chemicals out of the plant, and obviously EO's are significantly more potent. If I had something that had eucalyptus in it that was safe on kids, I wouldn't hesitate to use it, but if it was an EO I would.
I actually have both baby vicks and a "natural" version of it and they basically have the same main ingredients so I would assume baby vicks is safe. I have always used it without hesitation.
Me: 38 DH: 36 Married 8/27/2011 BFP #1 9/28/2011 DS born 5/22/2012 BFP #2 4/24/2013 m/c 4/25/2013 at 4w BFP #3 1/31/2014 DD born 10/14/2014 BFP #4 1/20/2016 m/c 2/12/2014 at 7w2d BFP #5 8/19/2016 DS2 born 4/29/2017 BFP #6 3/7/2018 EDD 11/18/2018
My FFFC: I had my wisdom tooth out on Wednesday. I don't feel great or amazing but certainly not awful. However when I talk with H about it, I'm dying. That way I haven't had to do anything for 2 1/2 days. I don't even care. I've been binging Gilmore girls and not doing any chores
TTC1: May 2015
Primary IF May 2016; Failed HSG; Scheduled Lap Sept. 2016
I guess I'm scrunchy too? I baby wear (Solly, Tula x3, RS made from CoK woven, water sling, and I have a woven I didn't use with DD that I'm going to break in and use for DS), I EBF DD 6 months and nursed until 23m (we were down to 1x/day when we stopped) and plan on about the same with DS, DS will sleep in our room in a bassinet/PnP/ etc. at least until STTN (we don't have a separate bedroom for DS), we don't CIO, we did nonscteen time until DD was almost 2yo, and DD wore amber necklaces on/off when she'd tolerate them. But we don't bed share, don't BLW, don't consider our style attachment parenting, don't cloth diaper, and DD now has her own tablet.
It’s not that I don’t like you, it’s that I don’t know you. Stranger Danger.
I think a lot of the "scrunchy" things are just "things that work." I mean, what would be the opposite? Ice cream for dinner every night and screen time at birth? I think we all do some things from the list. When someone says "crunchy" I assume they eat only organic, cloth diaper, want a med-free birth, bed share and might be anti-vax. I cannot fathom the bed sharing and anti-vax, but beyond that, use whatever works for your family. If "scrunchy" = science + whatever works, then awesome.
@NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot I have a SIL who is the total opposite of crunchy, so yes the ice cream for dinner would happen at her house if that's what her kid requested. Same as giving her kids soda before the age of 1 (in a bottle ). Her kids have no bedtime, SIL and BIL go to bed and the kids are left to do what they want until they fall asleep at whatever time they want. So I feel like even though that's "whatever works" for them it's not healthy or appropriate for kids. And that's probably backed by science that it isn't!
Married 03.09.09 Sweet Baby H 12.21.11 Sassy Baby P 03.26.14 Little Brother Due 05.22.17
Same as giving her kids soda before the age of 1 (in a bottle ). Her kids have no bedtime, SIL and BIL go to bed and the kids are left to do what they want until they fall asleep at whatever time they want. So I feel like even though that's "whatever works" for them it's not healthy or appropriate for kids. And that's probably backed by science that it isn't!
I really try not to judge...but total judgy-mcjudgeface right now over here. The fact that kids are left up unsupervised (depending on age I guess) is really worrisome too
TTC1: May 2015
Primary IF May 2016; Failed HSG; Scheduled Lap Sept. 2016
Same as giving her kids soda before the age of 1 (in a bottle ). Her kids have no bedtime, SIL and BIL go to bed and the kids are left to do what they want until they fall asleep at whatever time they want. So I feel like even though that's "whatever works" for them it's not healthy or appropriate for kids. And that's probably backed by science that it isn't!
I really try not to judge...but total judgy-mcjudgeface right now over here. The fact that kids are left up unsupervised (depending on age I guess) is really worrisome too
Oh I FULL ON JUDGE her! Her kids are 10,6,and 3. But the "free for all bedtime" has been going on for awhile. Basically the 10 year old is left to handle the others. But the 10 year old spends most of her time posting selfies on Instagram (that her parents aren't monitoring). Which is also a huge issue I have. Basically my kids won't be spending the night with their cousins, ever.
Married 03.09.09 Sweet Baby H 12.21.11 Sassy Baby P 03.26.14 Little Brother Due 05.22.17
@NotAPlaya-JustCrushAlot I have a SIL who is the total opposite of crunchy, so yes the ice cream for dinner would happen at her house if that's what her kid requested. Same as giving her kids soda before the age of 1 (in a bottle ). Her kids have no bedtime, SIL and BIL go to bed and the kids are left to do what they want until they fall asleep at whatever time they want. So I feel like even though that's "whatever works" for them it's not healthy or appropriate for kids. And that's probably backed by science that it isn't!
Omg. Count me in the camp of typically being "to each his own" but why bother having 3 kids if you aren't up to the task of raising them??! Wow. That would be so hard to keep my mouth shut.
MIL had a very hands off approach with MHs little sister who is now 19. I totally disagreed with her parenting style and so does MH. Apparently she's much different now than when he was growing up. It was hard to bite my tongue then but it was SO much less extreme than that!!
Oh @hp_momma & @ShadeofGreen816 I think we have the same SIL & MIL. But I just judge them. I don't classify them as not crunchy. It's just plain bad parenting!
I had never heard the term "crunchy" until this past week (hey, I guess that also qualifies at a FFFC). My H hadn't either, but he got really excited going down an etymology rabbit hole. I've never considered myself a granola person, but we do compost, we have our own garden and orchard, my H periodically makes his own kombucha and sauerkraut, and I hope to BF and plan on doing a lot of baby wearing. But I'm also pro-vax (100%), don't like the idea of co-sleeping, don't have an all organic diet, and I'm sure I'll let my kid watch tv an appropriate amount. I don't know, I guess maybe everyone has their own crunchy qualities. Although, with the re-emerging popularity of certain things like BF, maybe what's considered crunchy will change.
Oh @hp_momma & @ShadeofGreen816 I think we have the same SIL & MIL. But I just judge them. I don't classify them as not crunchy. It's just plain bad parenting!
Yes, plain bad parenting. And my MIL complains about how "strict" I am with my kids because I haven't allowed any soda or make them go to bed at a reasonable time. Guess I should strive to be like my SIL more...
Married 03.09.09 Sweet Baby H 12.21.11 Sassy Baby P 03.26.14 Little Brother Due 05.22.17
I mentioned coconut oil in the bf thread we've got going. I remember girls on my ep group saying to use it to increase fat in your bm but never got into it. I will say it was great on nipples and flanges for pumping. I also used it for cradle cap on my son per Dr google. We do organic milk and we really research baby sun lotion because the hormones can affect your kid. As to fenugreek and brewers yeast it did nothing for milk production. Brewer's yeast made me so gross gassy and fenugreek made ds scream gassy. Ovaltine malt didn't do anything either. I had what I had and that was it! But I will tell you avocado I actually noticed a difference in the fat content of my milk. I wouldnt call myself crunchy I just do research and make decisions from that
FFSC: I just went into the spreadsheet for the first time in awhile. I got sick of seeing all the potential lurkers (just based on last log in) that haven't participated on our BMB in awhile or are just AWs only. Sooooo I deleted a bunch of them. I'm stuck in the sorrynotsorry but I hope they're okay and still having a H&H9mos mode. Meh.
@sls I haven't seen you around for a couple weeks. You're the only one under active that doesn't have the sex posted so I had to lurk out of curiosity. I saw that the A/S was not handled well. I hope you had a good one since and that the twins are doing well.
FFSC: I just went into the spreadsheet for the first time in awhile. I got sick of seeing all the potential lurkers (just based on last log in) that haven't participated on our BMB in awhile or are just AWs only. Sooooo I deleted a bunch of them. I'm stuck in the sorrynotsorry but I hope they're okay and still having a H&H9mos mode. Meh.
@sls I haven't seen you around for a couple weeks. You're the only one under active that doesn't have the sex posted so I had to lurk out of curiosity. I saw that the A/S was not handled well. I hope you had a good one since and that the twins are doing well.
I still have no idea what I'm having. Baby is a stubborn turd that won't show the goods. Doctor will check again on the 8th. That's also my glucose test...so maybe baby will be good and active haha
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I really don't lurk our boards looking for drama, I genuinely try to read all the threads so that I can get to know members on our boards! Hence the reason I won't hijack their crunchy space if they want to discuss it!
I've also been bumping while eating my Sour Cream and Cheddar Ruffles. But hey, they were the baked version, that's healthier right?!
Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
Sassy Baby P 03.26.14
Little Brother Due 05.22.17
Human sons: 11/2015 & 05/2017
*formerly kayemjay*
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
DS - January 2014
TTCAL | April 2016
CP | June 2016
CP | July 2016
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I ate oatmeal with flax and brewers yeast like it was my job (plus fenugreek and blessed thistle and goat something or other) and it did a whole lot of nada.
But any excuse for ice ice cream isn't terrible!
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Found it: "The baby version of Vicks is more delicate than the adult version, and it is not medicated. Though it does contain a very small amount of the eucalyptus oil, it does not contain the strong camphor and menthol. It works like an aromatherapy balm with lavender and rosemary, which are both gentle on your baby's skin and have a lovely calming scent."
It also says it's safe for babies over 3 months.
Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
Sassy Baby P 03.26.14
Little Brother Due 05.22.17
May17 Siggy Challenge
Labor
my FFFC: I work from home, and this afternoon I got a major craving for some fresh hot chocolate chip cookies. I was supposed to be on phone duty, but I turned it off and took a 20 minute break to go make cookies. No one noticed and I was much happier
Married 8/27/2011
BFP #1 9/28/2011 DS born 5/22/2012
BFP #2 4/24/2013 m/c 4/25/2013 at 4w
BFP #3 1/31/2014 DD born 10/14/2014
BFP #4 1/20/2016 m/c 2/12/2014 at 7w2d
BFP #5 8/19/2016 DS2 born 4/29/2017
BFP #6 3/7/2018 EDD 11/18/2018
It’s not that I don’t like you, it’s that I don’t know you. Stranger Danger.
I wore my baby, breastfed, did no screen time until 2, did BLW, etc. but in no way would I align myself with crunch or scrunchy or whathave you.
If I had to name my team it would be "team whatever works".
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Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
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Basically my kids won't be spending the night with their cousins, ever.
Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
Sassy Baby P 03.26.14
Little Brother Due 05.22.17
MIL had a very hands off approach with MHs little sister who is now 19. I totally disagreed with her parenting style and so does MH. Apparently she's much different now than when he was growing up. It was hard to bite my tongue then but it was SO much less extreme than that!!
May17 Siggy Challenge
Labor
Sweet Baby H 12.21.11
Sassy Baby P 03.26.14
Little Brother Due 05.22.17
As to fenugreek and brewers yeast it did nothing for milk production. Brewer's yeast made me so gross gassy and fenugreek made ds scream gassy. Ovaltine malt didn't do anything either. I had what I had and that was it! But I will tell you avocado I actually noticed a difference in the fat content of my milk.
I wouldnt call myself crunchy I just do research and make decisions from that
@sls I haven't seen you around for a couple weeks. You're the only one under active that doesn't have the sex posted so I had to lurk out of curiosity. I saw that the A/S was not handled well. I hope you had a good one since and that the twins are doing well.