June 2017 Moms

UO Thursday 1/5

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Re: UO Thursday 1/5

  • I don't love cake, if it's not a molten chocolate cake with ice cream count me out. Give me all the ice cream!
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  • DD's newborn pictures were taken at the hospital, in her going home outfit, and were unedited. I'm not really sure why you would pay for pictures of your newborn and then have them edited since the whole point is to capture how they looked when they were a newborn... but maybe I'm missing something.
    I understand some Photoshopping. But after the photoshop, the person should still look real. So I can understand removing baby acne or bruising from the delivery. Its when the skin is photoshopped to such a degree that it no longer looks like real skin. It's a pet peeve with children photography too where the skin is softened so much, it doesn't look real, and then the eyes are made so sharp they're unreal. 
  • We only did newborn pics because a photographer came around the hospital and did them with no sitting free to sucker people into buying the rights to them later (which totally worked, btw). I love them, but dd is just wrapped up in a white blanket and sleeping or yawning or being held by us. I am not a big fan of the Photoshopped poses. I probably won't get them done with this lo. FIL has a nice camera, and I really only care that we get one good semi-professional looking photo to frame. I'm hoping he can pull that off for me so that I can spend the money on a new chair for the nursery or 100 burritos or something like that instead.
  • kahlan82kahlan82 member
    edited January 2017
    @Stankonia2014. Completely with you. I can't stand "we are pregnant". "We" are not hormonal, constipated, or having trouble sleeping. I believe that is just me.

    @sls Yup, yup, yup (except for Star Wars) no opinion there since I have never seen an whole movie. Don't just dislike lularue but ALL leggings. I don't like when thighs look like sausages. Curious George...can't stand.

    My UO: I think making a birth plan is pointless. I think it is important to research and know all the options but to decide ahead of time my labor will go "X, Y, Z"... yeah good luck with that baby/your body are going to do what they want.

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  • DD's newborn pictures were taken at the hospital, in her going home outfit, and were unedited. I'm not really sure why you would pay for pictures of your newborn and then have them edited since the whole point is to capture how they looked when they were a newborn... but maybe I'm missing something.
    I understand some Photoshopping. But after the photoshop, the person should still look real. So I can understand removing baby acne or bruising from the delivery. Its when the skin is photoshopped to such a degree that it no longer looks like real skin. It's a pet peeve with children photography too where the skin is softened so much, it doesn't look real, and then the eyes are made so sharp they're unreal. 
    Okay, that I can understand. Although, I loved DD's little baby acne haha
  • Ugh this is one FB feed right now.  Someone's doing a sale right now.  Who wears this ugly LLR crap?? 
  • I absolutely love newborn and baby photos.  I wouldn't trade mine for anything.  We had photographers come to our house both times and did a mix of posed and lifestyle shots.  I will cherish them forever.  I didn't do crazy costumes.  Just wraps/blankets and maybe a bow or hat.  I'm not saying everyone should do them and they are definitely expensive but I do love mine so much.  Especially the ones of my DD when DS was born. They were so cute together.  
  • Wearmi1 said:
    Ugh this is one FB feed right now.  Someone's doing a sale right now.  Who wears this ugly LLR crap?? 
    Me! 

    Although, the French fry leggings are a bit much. I'd totally wear them as pajama bottoms though.
  • Wearmi1 said:
    Ugh this is one FB feed right now.  Someone's doing a sale right now.  Who wears this ugly LLR crap?? 
    So since I obviously don't have an original screen name, my last name is Fry. My one sister in law loves LLR and LIVES in these leggins!! She's always posting pictures of herself on Facebook of her LLR OOTD and it's always these leggins! I feel it's so tacky because of our last name and very very childish. But then again I am also the mom that once put my son in a Little Fry onsie that had a thing of fries on it... 
  • @kahlan82 I see this opinion often and I guess what I'm confused about is where is my research supposed to go? If I can accept that birth pretty much never goes as planned, I think I don't understand the issue with saying "If it could go as planned, these things that I've found would be nice" if for no other reason than to remember what I found most important among the options I discovered. 
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  • @kahlan82 I've never had a birth plan for either of my births so I could be wrong here but I think a lot of times a birth plan includes the few things you can possibly control at times. Like delayed cord clamping (obviously only if everything is going ok), skin to skin, nursing right away, no bath until such and such time.  Maybe you want to attempt to labor in certain positions or don't want an IV unless necessary.  Or maybe you don't want to be offered an epidural.  I hope most people also go into it knowing everything can go out the window for your and your baby's health.  But I know some people get really into it and have a lot of expectations and end up getting let down possibly. There is so much out of our control. 

    This is my third OB/hospital to give birth at and this time they actually have me a binder that has a birth plan questionnaire I'm supposed to fill out and review with my doctor.  I've never had that before!! 
  • @meilay I think that what @kahlan82 is referring to is the women who think having a birth plan means that is exactly how their birth will go, no ifs and or buts about it. For instance, a women in labor ONLY wanting a no medicated vaginal birth who refuses to have a CSection and is devastated that she ends up needing one. In my October15 BMB, their were women who "mourned" their labor and delivery becuase it was not the one they "planned for." A birth plan should be exactly as you described, meilay said:
    @kahlan82 I see this opinion often and I guess what I'm confused about is where is my research supposed to go? If I can accept that birth pretty much never goes as planned, I think I don't understand the issue with saying "If it could go as planned, these things that I've found would be nice" if for no other reason than to remember what I found most important among the options I discovered. 
    I believe this is the point kahlan82 was getting after. Yes, do research and have an idea of what you want. And also use that research to prepare yourself for other outcomes over the one you want and have planned for. 
  • @kassyfry Gotcha. I used to be one of those women and then I got pregnant and very quickly learned things don't go as planned.  :)
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  • Wearmi1 said:
    Ugh this is one FB feed right now.  Someone's doing a sale right now.  Who wears this ugly LLR crap?? 
    These just make me want fries.
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  • @meilay I also should have added that the hospital I delivered at asked to have a list of "birth wishes" for things you could control. Like epidural or not? Labor in tub or not? Delayed cord clamping or not? Etc. If you have a chance to tour the hospital you deliver at, I would ask about this or ask your ob. I asked mine about birth plan after reading about them on here with my son. She laughed and told me that birth plans aren't common in our area, just come into the hospital prepared for what I did or did not want. 
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    Wearmi1 said:
    Ugh this is one FB feed right now.  Someone's doing a sale right now.  Who wears this ugly LLR crap?? 

    I would pay $3 for these. Each? Sure, each. That's my max.
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  • @kassyfry My hospital has something like this where you just check off options you'd like. For things I'm not sure about I plan to do more research before it's time for me to fill it out.
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  • @namelessAria I was in agreement with you regarding leaving the BRU pregnant mom spots for those who truly needed it or looked like they did. Until this pregnancy. I have been so sick for so long (especially before getting on meds). That I took one of those spots in my first tri because movement in general made me want to die. No shame!

    My UO is I can't stand nuts or chocolate chips added to my brownies. I just don't understand why people want to ruin a perfect thing!
  • @email2ash Yeah I hear you on that. I don't really have a problem with someone taking the spots if they need them. I've just seen a lot of posts around the internet where ladies seem to feel entitled to them simply for being pregnant. And like if you're feeling totally fine just leave it for someone who feels like crap, for whatever reason, and really actually needs it.
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  • JessyKV said:
    Wino0920 said:
    Mine stems from a post this week. If your child is too young to be on/in a playscape without you, they shouldn't be in it. 

    I bring my kids to play. They shouldn't be in there with adults, end of story!!! Its absolutely ok for parents to sit and watch and for kids to actually play independently. Find an age appropriate gym or whatever for you baby to play on. 
    This maybe is a reply to my post this week? 

    I I have to disagree to the first part.  My son is 2 and is perfectly capable of playing on 99% of the playgrounds we visit but there is always that one stupid bridge that's just 2 bars you have to balance across or a fireman pole my 4 year old can do by herself but my 2 year old can't and wants to try so as most is the time I don't climb on the playscape with him I do follow hIm around the outside to make sure he doesn't get really hurt.  I'm not going to stop him from playing because he can't do 2 things on the play area.  Especially when I have another child that can.  I think it teaches him boundaries and how to take risks.  There aren't a lot of small toddler safe play areas in my town and they would be boring for my 4 year old or she isn't allowed.  

    Im cool with active playing parents and parents watching from a bench.  I do both off and on depending where we are! And if my 2 year old climbs too high or gets stuck and I have to climb my big booty up and save him I will.  I don't think that really obstructs other kids play time. 
    Sorry had to post and run. I'm not sure who posted it about it first, but I am sure they had an 18mth old. 

    I have had to climb in to help with being stuck or something. I do not follow them through or stand on it watching. 

    I am not a fan of following on the outside, but it doesn't irk my nerves like when the parents are in the playscape following their kids. If you can't leave your kids and step off, they are too young for it.
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    @Wino0920 I get that this is UO, but I don't really get why it bothers you. The playground near us has ramps and stairs, so my 1yo could easily climb up, but had no fear, so I wasn't confident he wouldn't just walk off the edge where one of the ladders was. It doesn't stop other kids from playing for me to follow him to keep him safe. We have an older child who absolutely can play on the playground, so I don't really see an option for not going to the playground, and I didn't want to spend the entire time trying to keep my toddler off of the playscape. That sounds like no fun for anyone.
  • @meilay @kassyfry.  So it appears while I was sleeping kassyfry read my mind. That is exactly what I meant. My friend is an LD nurse and she tells me stories of people who come in "no matter what I don't want a c-section" etc.    the research part is because you should be educated on what might happen. If you just decide what you want and don't bother to look into other situations you are going to be in for some surprises that could cause you to be very anxious. 

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  • mrt said:
    @Wino0920 I get that this is UO, but I don't really get why it bothers you. The playground near us has ramps and stairs, so my 1yo could easily climb up, but had no fear, so I wasn't confident he wouldn't just walk off the edge where one of the ladders was. It doesn't stop other kids from playing for me to follow him to keep him safe. We have an older child who absolutely can play on the playground, so I don't really see an option for not going to the playground, and I didn't want to spend the entire time trying to keep my toddler off of the playscape. That sounds like no fun for anyone.
    My opinion is not going to stop anyone from doing it or am I going to start a campaign to get parents banned.

    You may not feel that you are disrupting play, but if 5 adults are in there waking behind their 5 children that can't handle it or could walk off at anytime, it gets crowded. 

    And then the kids who are old enough and want to run through, which its designed for, can't because they might "hurt" or "scare" or whatever the kids who actually shouldn't be in there. My kids have been told to slow down or watch it around babies, sorry but the baby shouldn't be there, my kid should and should be using it for what it was built for. 
  • Awe man. You'd hate me @Wino0920 this past summer I took my then 9 month old to the playground almost weekly and walked through the equipment to go down the slide with her over and over again. She loved it and momma had to get out of the house. 
  • I've been ponder since last night how to word my thoughts on a birth plan...

    I guess I'm on the side of HAVE a birth plan, but maybe I define that differently. Know what your wants and needs are for your birth. I don't see ANYTHING wrong with invisioning your birth a certain way. I think everyone that has posted on this topic was mostly agreeable to this? 

    I am a textbook version of having a specific birth plan hope/want and ending up with the complete opposite. I do agree it's important to be prepared that things MAY change, as they totally did with mine. Having it "in your know" that things might go differently is important too. 

    But @kassyfry, maybe you didn't mean it this way, but putting "mourning" in quotations makes it seem like these women's feelings towards their birth are stupid or unimportant. 

    I have worked through major grief regarding my c section and pregnancy experience, but no one should be mocking me or pointing a finger at my grief or "mourning" as if it is wrong due to the fact it stems from ending up with a c section. 

    No, my birth of DS did not go as planned. Yes, I dealt with grief due to having a c section...I had 10 weeks to work on the fact I wasn't able to have a vaginal birth. I can't imagine being thrown into an emergency situation or short notice and walking through that grief as well. 

    I guess it it just feels insensitive to point a fingers at women having a difficult time dealing with a "change in birth plan/vision/want". At the end of the day, yes, having your healthy child is absolutely ALL that matters...but it doesn't diminish what maybe your ideal was...it just may take some adjusting...

    So, I agree, be prepared for all and everything. But also know what you want...know what you want in various situations too. Dont be hard on yourself and your feelings either. Birth is SO personal, some people take more time to adjust to their birth experience. 
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  • Awe man. You'd hate me @Wino0920 this past summer I took my then 9 month old to the playground almost weekly and walked through the equipment to go down the slide with her over and over again. She loved it and momma had to get out of the house. 
    Nope you are wrong. I would never hate someone for that. I'd side eye the crap out of you, but never hate you. 
  • @devow27 I also had a hard time coming to terms with my c section with my first.  I knew at 33 weeks that she was breech and tried everything to get her to turn and she just wouldn't.  So due to breech and my high blood pressure she was a scheduled c section.  I knew it was the best choice for us both and I had weeks to prepare mentally but it just wasn't the experience or recovery that I wanted or envisioned.   I felt like somehow my body had failed me or something.  Of course I was happy we were both healthy and safe but I felt slightly robbed.  And I didn't go into pregnancy with a huge birth plan or anything.  

    Even since having a med free vbac with my second I still mourn my first Birth somewhat. There are also things about my second birth I would have changed.   I mean I've moved on and accepted both births and I'm happy and lucky they are both healthy kids but I for some reason have those deep down thoughts and feelings.  

    Im not sure why the birth experience means so much to me.  Im not a huge birth plan person and I am all for hospital births and necessary interventions for the health of me or the baby.  But that doesn't make it any easier for some reason.  Not sure why.  I hope that doesn't make me
    sound insensitive for people with actual emergencies or traumatic births.  I don't mean it that way. 
  • OK so kind of a spin off UO from what @Wino0920 shared, but it drives me batty when parents take their child somewhere fun and ignore them the entire time.  I'm the type to sit on the side while watching my kids and/or I chat with them from the sideline.  Encouraging them with shouts of "you can do it!" or sometimes stepping in to play with them if they need reasonable help (eg a swing) or other kids won't include them (DS has older cousins he plays with and as result tends to gravitate towards older kids who typically don't want much to do with him).  I love watching them have fun and they love looking back at me when they did something for the first time to get that "awesome job!" recognition.  Meanwhile I've seen parents face down in their phone the entire time while their child needs help or just wants a little attention.  One little girl FINALLY had the courage to go down a giant slide and was so excited to brag to her dad who couldn't be bothered!  Why have kids if you seemingly don't want anything to do with them?????  So sad.  

    That said, I do get frustrated when parents tell my son to slow down because they have their infant in the toddler section.  Ummmm... maybe take your infant to the infant section where my infant is!  I on occasion have had my DD "in" an older kid section (read: playing a the foot of a play structure) so I can keep an eye on DS, but I keep her out of the way of the big kids and don't let her form a traffic jam by climbing onto play areas not intended for her.  I've actually had parents tell their kids to "watch out for that baby".  I just thank them but say it is OK as I'll keep her out of their way and I'm only there so my son can run around like a crazy man too. 
  • @Elyse1384 I watch them and do things on my phone or read my book. I will not raise my kids to think I have to give them a rewarding phrase or high five for everything they do. They need to learn to play and have fun and not worry if mommy is going to give them an award every time they go down the slide. 

    I am also a stay at home mom. They show me 1,000 things a day. I try to get them out of the house to make friends, independently play, use their imagination, etc. 



  • DS (8.5 months) LOVES to go to the playground, but he is definitely too young for most of the equipment. It's obviously designed for the older children, so I keep him out of their way, not the other way around. 

    I absolutely agree with @Wino0920 that I do not and will not raise DS to think he needs a shout-out or approval every time he does something.
    My SIL does this and her oldest (3) thinks she needs acknowledgement from her mom for nearly every move. Children already think that the world revolves around them; why encourage it? 

    That being said, there's nothing wrong with stepping in when necessary or praising a child for courage or an impressive feat (at least to them). Like when DS crawls all the way across the slippery wood floor in his bedroom - he is exhausted but so proud at the end! I think that definitely warrants some encouraging words from Mommy! Just so you all don't think I never praise my child. Lol. 
  • @Wino0920 and @ladylolly89 I'm referencing parents who can't be bothered to acknowledge their kid period.  I like to walk the line of attention with independence.  My kids are little and don't get much of my time during the week as I work long hours, so I like to be more present on weekends and end up noticing some crazy parenting styles at play spaces. I understand for others who are with their kids as a SAH things can be quite different when you've watched your kid go down the slide a million times.  The girl I referenced went down the slide her first time.  I was watching DS go up and down, but noticed this little girl would get to the edge, freak out and run back down the other way.  My heart broke for her when she seemed to conquer her fear and dad seemed to respond with "whatever kid".
  • I thought the whole point of taking my children to the park or fun place was to get a break from 'Mommy, watch this!' Just kidding. 

    Other people's kids are too much of assholes to allow me to sit down and let my kids play. Literally, I took the girls to an indoor fun place last weekend and some random girl kept trying to rip Ella's arm out of socket on the jumping pillow. Dude, you need not hold her hand. She's good. Then another kid hit her in the kitchen area as his mom watched on. Yo, get your kid!
  • @Elyse1384 I understood what you meant! It's just that I know/have seen so many helicopter parents who have no balance at all that it's turning into one of my pet peeves.
     I am a (very recent) SAHM so I completely understand that it's different when you aren't around all of the time. :smile: Soak up the time with your littles! 
  • Elyse1384 said:
    OK so kind of a spin off UO from what @Wino0920 shared, but it drives me batty when parents take their child somewhere fun and ignore them the entire time.  I'm the type to sit on the side while watching my kids and/or I chat with them from the sideline.  Encouraging them with shouts of "you can do it!" or sometimes stepping in to play with them if they need reasonable help (eg a swing) or other kids won't include them (DS has older cousins he plays with and as result tends to gravitate towards older kids who typically don't want much to do with him).  I love watching them have fun and they love looking back at me when they did something for the first time to get that "awesome job!" recognition.  Meanwhile I've seen parents face down in their phone the entire time while their child needs help or just wants a little attention.  One little girl FINALLY had the courage to go down a giant slide and was so excited to brag to her dad who couldn't be bothered!  Why have kids if you seemingly don't want anything to do with them?????  So sad.  
    I get a little judgy about this, too, I have to admit. I try to tell myself that these people probably don't do this every moment of the day but it's difficult when the parent really seems to have no interest in their kid. Literally everywhere we go, parents are on their phone and ignoring their kid. My husband takes the kids to school in the morning and he tells me weekly how he cannot get over how many moms are literally staring at their phone/texting the whole walk in and the whole walk out. Then you go to the Mall play area (which I actually generally avoid at all costs...but sometimes winter calls for drastic measures for some different fun) and every damn parent in there is staring at their phone. I have watched toddlers run out of the area and their parent not notice until the kid has made it a stupid distance away. Or their kid is hitting other kids, or they fell down and the parent didn't notice for far too long, and on and on. There is nothing wrong with giving yourself some time to do what you want (or need) to do while you are out with the kids, but good lord with the damn phones all the time. It's sickening how obsessed everyone is with their phone when they are out with other people, including their kids


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  • I'm all for allowing independence at the park and play areas. But totally being unaware of your child is unacceptable. I want to make sure other kids are not being assholes, that my kid isn't being an asshole, and also to direct her away from a play area where I know she's too young too be, or there are much older kids who aren't paying attention to not plow over the younger kids. 
    I don't get the craze of LLR either. 
    Im gonna get flamed for this. I get having a general idea of how you'd like your L&D to go, but we are all grown up to know that shit happens. Not saying it's not ok to be bummed that it didn't go the way you wanted. I get that. But being married to a birthplan makes no sense to me.
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