@migdala Sorry for the BFN. A 12 day LP is perfectly fine and normal. Implantation generally happens between 7-10DPO. A short LP is anything less than 10 days. Even then, it's not a cause for concern unless you have 3 or more consecutive months with LPs less than 10 days. While LP lengths don't vary as much as the follicular phase of your cycle can, it's not uncommon for it to vary by a day or two. And it's not uncommon for cycles to be messed up and have short LPs after a MC. The fact that it's getting longer is good thing, but it doesn't mean anything is wrong with you.
AFM, 11 or 12 DPO and BFNs on a Wondfo and FRER. I'm pretty sure this means I'm out for this cycle. I'll probably keep testing until AF, just so I can drink at holiday parties the next couple days without worrying, but I'm not expecting anything at this point.
Sorry for the bfn. Edit because my post got eaten.
@RiverSong15 I love hearing your explanations on everything. Yesterday my intern was meeting with a 6th grader and he was talking about cells and fertilization and how it's a miracle that babies are born. Amen. Maybe you can take him as an apprentice and he can share his wisdom
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@MooFish2364@RiverSong15 Thank you both for the reassurance, and @RiverSong15 I'm sorry about the BFNs. As I'm sure everyone here knows, it is so frustrating to feel like I'm doing everything "right" and it's still not working. My chart was picture-perfect this month for the first time since the MC so I'm trying to tell myself, okay, it didn't work this month but it finally looks like my body has regulated itself so maybe our odds will be a lot better next month. It's hard to stay positive and not feel like a failure, though.
@SP128 I love that a male 6th grader is so enamored with the miracle of conception. When I was in school NOBODY talked about that stuff, not even the girls! It was deemed gross and embarrassing (eye roll).
Im 11 DPO and decided not to test this morning as seeing the BFN yesterday morning really put me in a bad mood. I should get AF by Sunday and might just try to wait it out. For some reason seeing AF stings less than a BFN - I don't know why? Have had all kinds of weird symptoms a bit of spotting on 9 DPO, on and off cramps, sore boobs. Of course the 9 DPO spotting led me down the rabbit hole of googling implantation bleeding but that seems very rarte and honestly a little bit spotting could mean anything. Just not really feeling very optimistic this cycle anymore which sucks because we had perfect timing.
I'm about 9 DPO and got a BFN. I was so intending to wait until tomorrow but just couldn't resist that darn wondfo this morning. Now I'm going to try to wait until Saturday because 11 DPO is when I got my last BFP. There's a chance my chart is off by two days, too, and I'm only about 7 DPO based on my secondary signs (opks, CM), so that's good and bad because if there's no BFP, I'll convince myself it's because my O day was off. I was feeling incredibly optimistic for no good reason but that feeling just went away today. We'll see.
Tested tonight at 11 DPO after a 4 hour hold and got another BFN. Think I'm pretty much out. Really thought this could be my month. It's been over a year and half for me - how much longer am I going to have to go through this?
@NewMommyCoop Making this type of decision must be so tough. I wish you the best
So bummed for all the BFNs.
AFM, FF gave me crosshairs this morning so I am 3 DPO (or maybe 4). BSC is already kicking in and I have been symptom spotting like crazy, comparing my chart this cycle with my chart from August when I got my BFP even though the rational side of me knows it's wayyy too early. Ugh. I had H hide my HPTs so I don't test too early and then get sad at BFNs.
I belong here now. I'm sorry for the BFN's...hoping its too early. 2DPO for me. So still a week before I even start testing. I will be traveling for work next week, so I'm hoping that keeps me from testing way too early. I am really bad at waiting until 10 DPO even when early BFNs bring a roller coaster of emotions.
Just got crosshairs this morning. Temps still above coverline but still jagged. I've been waking up about three times a night thinking its time to get up but it's not. Hoping that's the reason for roller coaster temps.
Dpo3. Last time I didn't test til dpo 15, the morning my period was due. We will see according to ff, af will be here on dec 19. I usually have some spotting a couple days before.
@oliveoil. I am also comparing my chart from August multiple times a day!
Gl to everyone !!!!!
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I'm out. But I'm inordinately proud of my full 12 day LP, which hasn't happened since before the MC. I'm back, baby! Good luck to everyone still in the TWW and here's hoping this month's great chart has set me up for success next month!
Well I'm 9 DPO. I tested using a FRER this morning, BFN I know it's still early prior to MC i would be in the 6 day window before AF. My cycles are longer and it's supposed to arrive on the 19th. I'm hoping it was just too early but I'm not as optimistic as I once was. I have my work Christmas party today so i was trying to see if I could have a drink.
Sorry you're out, @migdala but yay for that 12 day LP!
@Mack2342 Sorry for the BFN. It's definitely early, so fx!
AFM, I managed to not test this morning, which is good, but my chart is trending downward, so I'm not particularly hopeful. Probably will test tomorrow as there is the possibility of drinks.
@migdala BFNs suck, but I'm glad you had a nice 12 day LP!! That's always good.
@Mack2342 sorry for the BFN. 9 DPO is still early. You're not out yet!
@laeberge3 I will also probably test tomorrow am at 11dpo. We have cookie day at my inlaws and drinkingnis definitely a requirement. I want to make sure I'm not KU if I'm going to do some light drinking. I hate testing because I hate BFNs. I'd rather see AF for some reason. I'm just hoping that a BFN doesn't ruin my fun day tomorrow. It is usually the highlight of the holidays for me.
Anyone heard of keeping warm during TWW and to eat warm foods to aide in implantation? I read about it in Aug when I got preg and was eating chili in August : ) I think I may try to bring soups for lunch for this TWW wait as well. It's going to be chilly in New England this coming week, so I guess I'll bundle up. Can't hurt.
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@sp128 yes! I talked about this in November's TWW thread. I switched out my usual morning shake/lunch salad with eggs/soups and stayed in sweatshirts/sweatpants/slippers/under blankets when I was home. Unfortunately November was when I had my CP. But like you said, it doesn't hurt doing all that given the NE weather! Brrrr
@SP128 my acupuncturist told me that, so I've been trying to eat and drink warm things. I have no idea if it actually makes a difference, but at least it's worth a shot.
So happy for all the BFPs here! I didn't even get a chance to get a bfn....AF showed up 4 days early. :-( Back on OPKs next cycle. I need to know what's not going right.
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Sorry for CD1 @rainafire77. I'm right behind you. 13 or 14 DPO, BFN, and my usual pre-AF spotting has started. I was really upset earlier this week, but I'm feeling better about it now. I won't have a new EDD in the same month as my first loss, and I won't have all the triggers associated with going through the holidays pregnant again. It also means I can drink at my company's holiday party and all the other holiday functions. Gotta look for the bright side, right? Good luck to everyone still in the TWW!
@rainafire77@RiverSong15 Sorry for the BFNs. The bright side definitely is being able to drink at holiday parties!
Tested today at 10-11 DPO and BFN despite temp going back up. I'll probably keep testing until AF which should arrive just in time for vacation. Whomp, whomp.
@RiverSong15 You are right. Plus my body's probably telling me "you're not ready yet". I'm guessing the bright side to this is wine with Christmas dinner & champagne on New Years Eve. We can always start really trying again in 2017. This year blows so much that it's probably a good thing.
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Yes hoping for a better 2017 for us all!! Everyone is posting their year in review on facebook and I'm like no need to review 2016 let's just move along! Lol That gif is perfection @stephann85.
I always try to find a positive for a BFN too and being able to drink at holiday parties is one, I guess. I feel like I so desperately want to not be able to drink that being able to drink now kind of makes me sad. Anyone else feel that way?
@tscalei I was like that after I had my MC. My mentality was, "I should be ___ weeks now and wouldn't be drinking," yet I was doing it bc I wasn't still pregnant. It's a total mind F. I hear you.
@szwill86 I 100% agree that this whole process is a big mind F. The in laws have been hassling us for Christmas present ideas. Our plan was to announce around this time and actually ask for some things for the baby.
I feel like once I get pg, I'm not going to be able to enjoy it. I'm an anxious person as is, now knowing the real possibility and suckiness of miscarriages, I'm sure I'll be a mess.
This TWW I'm only a couple days into it, I'm trying to eat foods that are warm and fortifying just like when I was pg. I'm cycling from hopeful to not.
The only awesome thing about 2016 is that I married DH and we went on a fabulous honeymoon.
Hoping for 2017 babies for all of us!!!
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I feel you guys on the suckiness of 2016. Like you @sp128 I got married this year (and so did my sister) so along with the lows, we've had a lot of highs. I have high(er) hopes for 2017 though for all of us!
I had a huge temp dip today at either 6 or 7 DPO. Obviously I immediately googled implantation dip which I didn't know is most likely caused by a surge in estrogen due to implantation. I had no dip on my BFP chart and I had a dip on another month that was a BFN cycle so I won't put too much stock in it. I was also sleeping at my mom's house and she keeps it like 10 degrees cooler than I'm used to, so could've been that
BFP #1 9/2/16, MMC @ 8w5d, D&E 10/20/16 BFP #2 12/17/16, EDD 8/26/17 L born at 35+6 on 7/28/17
5DPO today. DH last minute picked up OT. Symptom spotting and googling symptoms and staring at my FF chart. Was busy all day until now. Anyone with me?
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@SP128 & @oliveoil I also got married this year! Other than that, this has been the worst year ever. I broke my leg, my dog passed away, severely scratched my cornea, and I had my ectopic. And not to mention, this has been the worst year of seasonal allergies I can remember. Hope these next few weeks are quick and bring us into 2017 with bfps up the wazoo!
@sp128 *waves* me! DH went back to work this evening after being off since weds and I've been falling down a google rabbit hole and overlaying chart after chart in FF. I'm right there with you at 6dpo.
@szwill86 I only have the free ff so no fancy stuff but for me. I've been googling mild cramping that's been going on since dpo4. In aug, I had lower left side pulsing.
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@SP128@szwill86 SAME! Last BFP I had major tender BBs the whole (unfortunately short) time I was pregnant, starting at 7 DPO. I'm 6 (maybe 7) DPO now so have been periodically poking my girls to check for any tenderness (nope... maybe a little now... or maybe not...) and chart stalking on FF. H is away for a guys weekend until tomorrow. I spent the weekend with my mom and sister but now I'm home alone and it's not good for my BSC!
My EDD is coming soon, January 1st, and I just thought I would be pregnant by now. I'm still in the TWW, but I don't feel hopeful. I just feel really sad coming up on my EDD and the holidays keep making it worse.
@oliveoil I haven't been bad the last few days...... It's just that DH is working til midnight tonight and I'm home like "hmmmmm....." I didn't have tender BBs last time until about approximately 6 weeks so I'm not poking myself.
I compared the notes I wrote in FF in Aug and my "symptoms" now. One minute I'm like "I'm obviously pregnant!" The next I'm like, "ummm it's a little too early crazy!"
Just looked at your siggy, looks like we had similar loss profiles. Blah
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@SP128 5DPO for me. Also poking for tenderness...results range from yes to no in a matter of minutes. I had a little nausea this morning, but I got that even last month and I was not pg. Other than that no other signs. . I will test on Friday.
@endo_mom I haven't thought about what day yet. Maybe sunday as ff is estimating I'll get my period then. I feel I'm the rally good maybe monday. I waited til 15dpo last time. For now, I'll just symptom spot
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Re: ***December TWW***
@szwill86 Welcome to the TWW!
@migdala Sorry for the BFN. A 12 day LP is perfectly fine and normal. Implantation generally happens between 7-10DPO. A short LP is anything less than 10 days. Even then, it's not a cause for concern unless you have 3 or more consecutive months with LPs less than 10 days. While LP lengths don't vary as much as the follicular phase of your cycle can, it's not uncommon for it to vary by a day or two. And it's not uncommon for cycles to be messed up and have short LPs after a MC. The fact that it's getting longer is good thing, but it doesn't mean anything is wrong with you.
AFM, 11 or 12 DPO and BFNs on a Wondfo and FRER. I'm pretty sure this means I'm out for this cycle. I'll probably keep testing until AF, just so I can drink at holiday parties the next couple days without worrying, but I'm not expecting anything at this point.
@RiverSong15 I love hearing your explanations on everything. Yesterday my intern was meeting with a 6th grader and he was talking about cells and fertilization and how it's a miracle that babies are born. Amen. Maybe you can take him as an apprentice and he can share his wisdom
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
@SP128 I love that a male 6th grader is so enamored with the miracle of conception. When I was in school NOBODY talked about that stuff, not even the girls! It was deemed gross and embarrassing (eye roll).
Im 11 DPO and decided not to test this morning as seeing the BFN yesterday morning really put me in a bad mood. I should get AF by Sunday and might just try to wait it out. For some reason seeing AF stings less than a BFN - I don't know why? Have had all kinds of weird symptoms a bit of spotting on 9 DPO, on and off cramps, sore boobs. Of course the 9 DPO spotting led me down the rabbit hole of googling implantation bleeding but that seems very rarte and honestly a little bit spotting could mean anything. Just not really feeling very optimistic this cycle anymore which sucks because we had perfect timing.
@szwill86 Yay for TWW - Fx for you!
I'm about 9 DPO and got a BFN. I was so intending to wait until tomorrow but just couldn't resist that darn wondfo this morning. Now I'm going to try to wait until Saturday because 11 DPO is when I got my last BFP. There's a chance my chart is off by two days, too, and I'm only about 7 DPO based on my secondary signs (opks, CM), so that's good and bad because if there's no BFP, I'll convince myself it's because my O day was off. I was feeling incredibly optimistic for no good reason but that feeling just went away today. We'll see.
BFP: 10.3.16 | CP: 10.11.16
BFP: 12.14.16 | CP: 12.14.16
BFP: 1.23.17 | EDD 10.6.17 -- DS born 10.7.17
BFP: 9.9.18 | EDD 5.23.19 -- DD born 5.24.19
BFP: 9.1.21 | MC 10.1.21
@roxgibbons @kidria congrats!! I'm a so excited for you ladies
@NewMommyCoop Making this type of decision must be so tough. I wish you the best
So bummed for all the BFNs.
AFM, FF gave me crosshairs this morning so I am 3 DPO (or maybe 4). BSC is already kicking in and I have been symptom spotting like crazy, comparing my chart this cycle with my chart from August when I got my BFP even though the rational side of me knows it's wayyy too early. Ugh. I had H hide my HPTs so I don't test too early and then get sad at BFNs.
@Hopefulmommy1980 @szwill86 we'll be waiting together!
GL to everyone still in the TWW this cycle.
Edit because I can't count (3 or 4 DPO)
BFP #2 12/17/16, EDD 8/26/17
L born at 35+6 on 7/28/17
BFP: 12/16/16 => DD born 08/27/2017
Dpo3. Last time I didn't test til dpo 15, the morning my period was due. We will see according to ff, af will be here on dec 19. I usually have some spotting a couple days before.
@oliveoil. I am also comparing my chart from August multiple times a day!
Gl to everyone !!!!!
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
@Mack2342 Sorry for the BFN. It's definitely early, so fx!
AFM, I managed to not test this morning, which is good, but my chart is trending downward, so I'm not particularly hopeful. Probably will test tomorrow as there is the possibility of drinks.
BFP: 10.3.16 | CP: 10.11.16
BFP: 12.14.16 | CP: 12.14.16
BFP: 1.23.17 | EDD 10.6.17 -- DS born 10.7.17
BFP: 9.9.18 | EDD 5.23.19 -- DD born 5.24.19
BFP: 9.1.21 | MC 10.1.21
@Mack2342 sorry for the BFN. 9 DPO is still early. You're not out yet!
@laeberge3 I will also probably test tomorrow am at 11dpo. We have cookie day at my inlaws and drinkingnis definitely a requirement. I want to make sure I'm not KU if I'm going to do some light drinking. I hate testing because I hate BFNs. I'd rather see AF for some reason. I'm just hoping that a BFN doesn't ruin my fun day tomorrow. It is usually the highlight of the holidays for me.
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
DD born 04/28/2002
Married DH 03/25/2017
1st MMC 08/13/2016 2nd MMC 02/14/2017
BFP 06/16/17 Rainbow DS Born 02/05/2018
Tested today at 10-11 DPO and BFN despite temp going back up. I'll probably keep testing until AF which should arrive just in time for vacation. Whomp, whomp.
BFP: 10.3.16 | CP: 10.11.16
BFP: 12.14.16 | CP: 12.14.16
BFP: 1.23.17 | EDD 10.6.17 -- DS born 10.7.17
BFP: 9.9.18 | EDD 5.23.19 -- DD born 5.24.19
BFP: 9.1.21 | MC 10.1.21
DD born 04/28/2002
Married DH 03/25/2017
1st MMC 08/13/2016 2nd MMC 02/14/2017
BFP 06/16/17 Rainbow DS Born 02/05/2018
Me 31, DH 30
BFP #2: 5/25/16, MC 6/23/16 (8 weeks), D&C 6/24/16, 2nd D&C for retained tissue and fibroid removal 9/1/16
BFP #3: 12/24/16 EDD 09/04/2017
I am seriously hoping 2017 is better for all of us!!
Me.30 DH.31
BFP 2/3/17...edd 10/13/17
@TScalei I had the same thought about Facebook's Year in Review. I saw it pop up on my feed. Nope nope nope-ity nope!
I feel like once I get pg, I'm not going to be able to enjoy it. I'm an anxious person as is, now knowing the real possibility and suckiness of miscarriages, I'm sure I'll be a mess.
This TWW I'm only a couple days into it, I'm trying to eat foods that are warm and fortifying just like when I was pg. I'm cycling from hopeful to not.
The only awesome thing about 2016 is that I married DH and we went on a fabulous honeymoon.
Hoping for 2017 babies for all of us!!!
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
I had a huge temp dip today at either 6 or 7 DPO. Obviously I immediately googled implantation dip which I didn't know is most likely caused by a surge in estrogen due to implantation. I had no dip on my BFP chart and I had a dip on another month that was a BFN cycle so I won't put too much stock in it. I was also sleeping at my mom's house and she keeps it like 10 degrees cooler than I'm used to, so could've been that
BFP #2 12/17/16, EDD 8/26/17
L born at 35+6 on 7/28/17
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
@szwill86 Cramps sound like a good thing... yes?
@justsuzie Yes! I remember you talking about your DIY wedding
BFP #2 12/17/16, EDD 8/26/17
L born at 35+6 on 7/28/17
I compared the notes I wrote in FF in Aug and my "symptoms" now. One minute I'm like "I'm obviously pregnant!" The next I'm like, "ummm it's a little too early crazy!"
Just looked at your siggy, looks like we had similar loss profiles. Blah
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
When are you testing?
BFP: 12/16/16 => DD born 08/27/2017
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161