Woah wait... stop the rick roll train. @hjphillips what!? Ummmm that sounds... terrible. Please tell me you're at least happy with your marriage? I hope he is supportive of you. I just... I'm at a loss reading that.
ETA: Just saw your response before mine posted. Glad to hear he is your best friend and understands. I'm just shocked you were put in that position.
@hjphillips my brother came out to us when he was 14 so it breaks my heart to think someones family wouldn't support them. Glad you have a found a best friend in a crummy situation -- and lets not forget, adorable babies
@Elyse1384 I know. It's pretty messed up. It's hard to believe it still happens in America. As I said before, he is and was my best friend. It's kind of a roommate agreement for the most part.
@hjphillips I officially dedicate my vote to you. I'm so sorry this country and it's people have taken so long to develop compassion and understanding.
@hjphillips This sucks no matter what, but I especially feel for you knowing where we live and how backwards people are...usually being hateful for the sake of religion, which makes no sense.
Also, fuck anyone who wants to go backwards on marriage equality. Double fuck yous to Pence for his bigotry based Religious Freedom bull shit act.
@Mother0fDragons it sucks for anyone outside the norm in this country. Thank you for being a compassionate and kind person.
@Assiram42 I have come to accept it. Thank you though. I'm sad for all the young people in this country that will have to go through similar things, and maybe aren't as strong and weren't as lucky as I was. Ideally, I would not be married to Seth, but in the end, I know I have a good friend in him.
@swanbrooner It absolutely stuns me how people can say they like Pence and he is a good choice for a potential VP. The fact that people could use religion to hate others grieves me.
@hjphillips I really do feel bad and I could not imagine not being comfortable coming out as I am. I support gay marriage.
But can I ask some questions? Just because I don't know your situation. You said that your parents made you marry someone and that you are sad for younger people who aren't as strong as you? Well how exactly did they make you and wouldn't strong mean coming out and marrying who you want??
i want to get to the point where it's just normal and not even a second thought for gay people to marry. But just bowing down and giving them what they want seems to be standing still instead of moving forward.
@Wino0920 I guess I meant kids that can't handle the parental pressure. I knew people who killed themselves over their parent's... disapproval. I'll put it that way.
I had had a few options, really. Go to a conversation camp, start dating some boy (picked Seth. Ended up marrying him due to a mixture of pressure and just trying to please my parents), or lose my family, including my little brother, who needed me in his life at the time.
These aren't ever simple choices. I started dating my husband as a way to placate my parents while I saved up enough money to move out, and then things got messy and complicated. Obviously we are working towards us both living our truths but right now things aren't moving in that direction.
TLDR: I was in a dangerous situation and made a decision. Maybe it was the wrong choice, I don't know, but it's what I did.
I don't like either candidate, but I did vote. My husband has decided in the past few months he cares about politics and is absolutely driven me nuts... Tonight, watching the results it's at a whole new level of annoyance!!!
I voted early about two weeks ago. I'm working late tonight and won't know what's going on until around 10pm. The suspense is killing me! And I just might cry if the liar liar pantsuit on fire wins
Cry tears of joy...?
Yeah that would be a no. Just no. I better stop before I get majorly flamed haha
DH and I voted this morning. We waited about 45 minutes but it wasn't too bad. I am ready for tomorrow to be here and wish it didn't take so long to tally votes. I want to go to bed at a decent time but want to know the results!
Love having my country's fate hinging on "white uneducated rural voters" as the pollsters are saying. Sorry to all the blue dots in red states, I don't know how you manage. I'm in a happy bubble in my town, in my county, where seeing a Trump sign has been rare enough to be genuinely surprising. It's hard to believe that this is who "we" are as a country.
Aw, poor Georgey Stephanopoulos is freaking out on ABC. Makes me laugh to watch the media squirm in their seats while all of the "polls" over the last year are proven wrong
Aw, poor Georgey Stephanopoulos is freaking out on ABC. Makes me laugh to watch the media squirm in their seats while all of the "polls" over the last year are proven wrong
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It's insane to me that no one in the mainstream media saw this coming. It's now looking like Trump might actually win, but I was saying to my husband a few days ago when the polls all had Hillary up that I thought it was going to be much closer than anyone thought.
Trump is an unpopular candidate. Sure, lots of people are voting for him, but voice that aloud or online and you will be called racist and misogynist, etc. On top of that, Trump has had a lot of fear in his campaign, particularly lately about rigged elections. So I'd bet that fear (of government and rigging) plus the way Trump is so popularly unpopular has led a lot of people to not voice their true voting intentions even in anonymous polls.
I'm crying. For the world I'm bringing my baby into. For feeling scared for myself and my family the next four years. For those of us robbed of a future to believe in. Fuck you DNC.
How are people so flippant about this man making appointments to the Supreme Court? He has come out and drawn his line in the sand. We are not all equal.
How are people so flippant about this man making appointments to the Supreme Court? He has come out and drawn his line in the sand. We are not all equal.
I'm so heartbroken. I thought people were better, smarter than this. This is not the world our babies deserve.
The only silver lining is that I truly believe Trump purposefully made controversial and inflammatory promises throughout his campaign to incense uneducated, rural voters. I hope that he doesn't follow through on half of his claims, which seem pretty far fetched, controversial, and unconstitutional for the most part.
We live in a crazy place. We essentially just voted in a man who has the same experience level as Kim Kardashian. I thought we were better than this. I'm in shock.
I voted for Trump. I would never call Hillary supporters names, that would be hateful, something Hillary fans say they are against. I believe you can be educated or/and informed and vote for either. People have their reasons and I support them for it.
This is was such a passionate and hard campaign. It was even hard for me to swallow with my vote but after weighing everything, I made my choice.
It was a truly disappointing and disheartening outcome. I want to believe that the majority of this country is good. At least where I live there is no celebratory attitude. The mood is somber.
@Wino0920 His rhetoric did target uneducated voters by playing into their fears. Looking at voter demographics, this was his core group of supporters. This was fact based, not name calling.
@Wino0920 His rhetoric did target uneducated voters by playing into their fears. Looking at voter demographics, this was his core group of supporters. This was fact based, not name calling.
A large majority of the area I live in includes the the uneducated white voters who ended up voting for him. I live in a rural part of Northeast Indiana and have not seen a single Hillary sign all year. And they have had more fears about a presidential candidate who lies, doesn't know how to properly use email, and is incredibly corrupt. To be honest, I'm not shocked at all that Trump won.
@Wino0920 His rhetoric did target uneducated voters by playing into their fears. Looking at voter demographics, this was his core group of supporters. This was fact based, not name calling.
So if you aren't educated, you can't be informed? There has been name calling on here. It doesn't make it right.
@swanbrooner I completely agree with you. I said this same thing to MH last night. 90% of his schpeel was, I believe, and act to incite a certain type of voter. Kudos to him because it worked. I hope that he isn't able to pull off a lot of things he said he would. I also hope the current Supreme Court Justices hold on for four more years. I'm nervous for our economy, for our taxes, for our jobs. But this is our reality now and I have to accept it and move forward with hope we will overcome whatever obstacles come our way.
Re: Election 2016 Thread
Me: 29 DH: 35
Married: 9/29/12
DS #1: 3/8/15Me: 29 DH: 35
Married: 9/29/12
DS #1: 3/8/15ETA: Just saw your response before mine posted. Glad to hear he is your best friend and understands. I'm just shocked you were put in that position.
Me: 29 DH: 35
Married: 9/29/12
DS #1: 3/8/15Gavin - 8/27/10
*TW*
Gabriel - 2nd tri loss 5/17/16 Trisomy 18 & 21
Hope - 2nd tri loss 12/7/16 complications from pneumonia
Also, fuck anyone who wants to go backwards on marriage equality. Double fuck yous to Pence for his bigotry based Religious Freedom bull shit act.
@Assiram42 I have come to accept it. Thank you though. I'm sad for all the young people in this country that will have to go through similar things, and maybe aren't as strong and weren't as lucky as I was. Ideally, I would not be married to Seth, but in the end, I know I have a good friend in him.
@thatlauragirl thank you.
@swanbrooner It absolutely stuns me how people can say they like Pence and he is a good choice for a potential VP. The fact that people could use religion to hate others grieves me.
But can I ask some questions? Just because I don't know your situation. You said that your parents made you marry someone and that you are sad for younger people who aren't as strong as you? Well how exactly did they make you and wouldn't strong mean coming out and marrying who you want??
i want to get to the point where it's just normal and not even a second thought for gay people to marry. But just bowing down and giving them what they want seems to be standing still instead of moving forward.
I had had a few options, really. Go to a conversation camp, start dating some boy (picked Seth. Ended up marrying him due to a mixture of pressure and just trying to please my parents), or lose my family, including my little brother, who needed me in his life at the time.
These aren't ever simple choices. I started dating my husband as a way to placate my parents while I saved up enough money to move out, and then things got messy and complicated. Obviously we are working towards us both living our truths but right now things aren't moving in that direction.
TLDR: I was in a dangerous situation and made a decision. Maybe it was the wrong choice, I don't know, but it's what I did.
Gavin - 8/27/10
*TW*
Gabriel - 2nd tri loss 5/17/16 Trisomy 18 & 21
Hope - 2nd tri loss 12/7/16 complications from pneumonia
#2 God damnit Florida why do you do this to the rest of the country. Freakin 95% of votes in and "too close to call"?????
Edit: gif broke
Gavin - 8/27/10
*TW*
Gabriel - 2nd tri loss 5/17/16 Trisomy 18 & 21
Hope - 2nd tri loss 12/7/16 complications from pneumonia
BFP #2: due 6/30/2017, MMC found 12/7/2016
BFP #3: due 10/21/2018
edited because I posted too soon
Trump is an unpopular candidate. Sure, lots of people are voting for him, but voice that aloud or online and you will be called racist and misogynist, etc. On top of that, Trump has had a lot of fear in his campaign, particularly lately about rigged elections. So I'd bet that fear (of government and rigging) plus the way Trump is so popularly unpopular has led a lot of people to not voice their true voting intentions even in anonymous polls.
I can't believe no one saw this coming.
The only silver lining is that I truly believe Trump purposefully made controversial and inflammatory promises throughout his campaign to incense uneducated, rural voters. I hope that he doesn't follow through on half of his claims, which seem pretty far fetched, controversial, and unconstitutional for the most part.
This is was such a passionate and hard campaign. It was even hard for me to swallow with my vote but after weighing everything, I made my choice.