Thanks for bringing up birth defects, I wasn't freaked out about being 7mos in without treatment already. I've spent this whole pregnancy feeling terrified something would happen to this baby for no reason and now I have a legitimate concern and might have to take something that makes me an actual insane person until December.
It took me this long to get them to even check it, and I've had this medication for 2 whole days and I have taken 2 doses like a good little Guinea pig. I'm aware of the risks, and I've fretted about them whilst trying to get the doctor's nurses to stop patronizing me and take my concerns seriously.
However I'm the one inside my body and I know something's not right. I've been on a depressive, anxiety, anger fueled roller coaster all day. For instance, I'm furious right now for no particularly good reason. I was playing a game on my phone, lost the game, and felt rage. That's not normal. I'm getting really bitchy right now and that's not my normal either.
I'm still waiting for my doctor to call me back. Hopefully they will since they're set to close soon. My WTF was that I was not okay on these meds, not that I was not going to or willing to take meds.
@Austenista, Hugs girl, that is rough. Is there a chance your OB will do an US to check LO for anything associated with the thyroid being off? Since you have documented proof that you were trying to get your levels checked, they should bend over backwards to assure you nothing is wrong-fix anything that is wrong.
Formerly known as Kate08young August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Me: 28 H: 24 Married: 7/22/14 Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017. Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
@Austenista - I'm so sorry that you are having such a hard time! I had a really hard time with my OB and my thyroid and she blew me off about changing my meds during pregnancy and I finally got my PCP to check it and then sent me to an endo when my levels were really high. Is there any other doctor that you could see if they could refer you to an endo? I will never let just a PCP/OB mess with my thyroid again.
I feel for you so much right now, because I know hormone stuff can really mess with a person (I have a similar reaction to birth control... literally psychotic). Please hang in there, and try not to stress too much about possible birth defects. I had a full on meltdown when I found out my levels were messed up and my endo said that while it can increase chances of defects it is not a sure thing. Also if the baby is measuring on track that is a really good sign. Sending you so many good calming vibes! Just know that you aren't crazy! I'll be thinking about you!
@Kate08Young I'm pretty frustrated right now. I just got a call from my OB from a nurse who I don't think even read up on who she was talking to or what was going on. She first told me I didn't have enough time to be feeling this way from the medicine (right. Okay.) then ASKED ME IF I WAS PREGNANT. I took the phone off my ear and looked at it and said "really?" Then she tried to blame it on me being pregnant. Finally she said she would go talk to the Doctor and call me back.
In the midst of typing this, the lady called me back and told me if I stopped the medicine baby would be fine and to just stop taking it if it's doing me this way. If the crazy feelings persist I needed to come in. I asked three times if she was sure baby would be okay if I just stopped taking it and she said yes. So I'm stopping. I'm going to the doctor again on the 13th and I will discuss it further with her then.
@Austenista I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause alarm! My endo scared the bejeezus out of me about staying on top of thyroid stuff, but my mom had undiagnosed thyroid disease and she had three healthy babies. Plus, the first trimester is when it's likely to cause problems, so if baby is on track you're probably fine.
If you can see an endo, though, it might be worthwhile. That nurse is full of BS if she said you can't feel the effects after two days - it's a hormonal supplement with a short half life, it can absolutely be felt in a couple days! Hopefully you'll be feeling back to normal soon.
I can't tell if the baby is in a bad spot and hurting my back or if I'm having back contractions. It's always a dull pain but every minute/90 seconds I get a sharp pain that lasts 15-30 seconds.
So WTF body again. And WTF self, why can't I tell what this crap is!? I had back labor with my first so you'd think I'd have some clue...but no.
I dunno if this will help ease any concerns... but it helped me! A friend of mine told me in the midst of one of my early pregnancy panic attacks (related to me taking/stopping some medicine): "My sister in law literally smoked crack throughout her pregnancy and she now has a happy, healthy 5 year old with no side effects. Babies are super resilient and you probably have nothing to worry about." Of course, I'm not telling anyone to go smoke crack and your baby will be fine... but I think you know what I mean.
Hugs to you @Austenista - I'm so glad they said you were able to stop taking the meds. I've been there too and it is certainly not pleasant.
@sourlemon for anything like that, I was told to lay down(left side if you can)/drink water. If it doesn't go away, then definitely call..... (nurse said things like that which are NOT pre-term labor will typically go away when laying down)
@toller I just got home from work so as soon as I get the toddler propped in front of mickey mouse that's my plan. All day at work was brutal but it was pretty consistent...if it had intensified I probably would have been more concerned. I just don't have lots of extra pto.
@ea301 I don't know why, but that comment about smoking crack has literally made me feel more comforted than anything else since I got off the phone with the very unhelpful nurse. I wasn't calling because I wanted to come off the meds, I was calling because I felt like it was making me freak out and needed guidance. The nurse made me feel like I was an unhinged pregnant lady and it was just all my own emotions like I didn't know myself and couldn't tell the difference. Now I'm second guessing myself. Maybe I am crazy and it's not the medicine. I don't know what the solution is. I've been crying for about two hours now.
Eaton started forcefully kicking DH who was trying to comfort me and that seemed to help lighten my mood. I just keep reading about how in the first trimester low thyroid can cause low IQ for about 19% of littles. I feel like I could have already ruined his life before he's even born. I really thought they checked thyroid when they check your blood in the beginning so when they said everything was great, I assumed it was. Then when I found out they didn't, I begged them to check and they said no, repeatedly. Finally they check it and now they say I need medicine but baby doesn't? I don't know what to think about that.
I'm of half a mind to just keep taking it and see if I continue to freak out. I can't decide if it's more irresponsible to stop taking it or to keep taking it, and that's incredibly frustrating and scary. Did the doctor herself say that it wouldn't impact baby one way or another or was that the nurse saying that, you know? Especially annoying since I called them at 1 o'clock and they called me back right before they closed so now I'm stuck ruminating and stressing over this and they're all gone home and moved on.
@sourlemon do u sit at a desk? My chair super irritates my lower back pretty bad sometimes (and walking and standing...haha!). Rough days at work are hard- and having to save PTO sucks! Gotta love Mickey!! What did parents do before him......
@Austenista I hear you. If it was me, I would probably stay off of it for now, see if you feel better, then talk to the doc tomorrow or later on this week. I also agree with several other PPs that an endocrinologist is a good option too. I have faith that everything will be okay! My same friend also said that just the fact that we are concerned with our actions shows that we will be good moms, and that fact itself offsets some of the stress and anxiety that comes with pregnancy. (My paraphrase but I found that to be a very comforting thought.) Take it one minute at a time, lots of deep breaths, and you'll get through it. Babies aren't the only resilient ones - we moms-to-be are too!
@Toller I have a varidesk but I barely was able to stand today. I typically stand about 3 hours a day, today I struggled for 1. Standing was worse than sitting when usually standing feels great.
Now DH is all concerned too. But my belly isn't getting hard at all so I'm not sure this would be considered contractions...just super annoying pain. Idk. I'm gonna give it some time and decide. I just can't believe I can't tell what's going on.
@Fauxpa no, they never give me levels for anything. Just "you're good" or otherwise. I meant to ask the nurse today, but I was so busy and flustered defending my sanity that I failed to get to that part.
@Austenista I completely agree with PP that babies are extremely resilient and there is a huge chance that absolutely nothing is wrong with LO. At this point the baby has it's own fully functioning thyroid so it's not taking anymore of your hormone.
Here is what I would do if I was in your situation take from it what you will: Because of your extreme reaction to the medication I would not take it anymore, but I would call my doc back tomorrow and demand that they refer you to an endo. Depending on what your levels are you may need to start back some sort of medicine but you definitely need someone who is much more knowledgeable in the thyroid department. It may be something as simple as just titrating you more slowly than the average patient. OB's and PCPs just don't really get it outside of "well if you are in these levels you should be good".
I completely understand the guilt, but just know that this is not your fault, and you are not crazy. The chances of anything being wrong with your LO are still extremely extremely low (trust me... I researched everything I possibly could. My levels have been extremely high during the majority of the pregnancy. I just KNEW that I had done serious damage to my baby.) I will also say what my endo told me... stay off of google, it isn't going to help anything.
My wtf is pregnancy safe medications, as it seems so many people's are today!
It's so freaking frustrating figuring out what you can and cannot take! I would freaking live to sn9rt some afrin and take sinus meds but no, not safe. Then I read the Oct 16 board and one of the women took FENTANYL during labor. So WTF BODY for making Tylenol sinus and afrin not ok but Fentanyl ok.
Also hugs to all you ladies struggling with serious issues regarding meds...the second guessing cannot be fun and I hope you get answers AND relief soon.
Now DH is all concerned too. But my belly isn't getting hard at all so I'm not sure this would be considered contractions...just super annoying pain. Idk. I'm gonna give it some time and decide. I just can't believe I can't tell what's going on.
Honey, you ate not alone in that. Best advice I have been given was to laydown and drink lits of water. If that didnt sound good take a long hot bath. If its still there or worse, go in. If it stopped or lightened up see if you can sleep through it.
Formerly known as Kate08young August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Me: 28 H: 24 Married: 7/22/14 Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017. Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
My wtf is pregnancy safe medications, as it seems so many people's are today!
It's so freaking frustrating figuring out what you can and cannot take! I would freaking live to sn9rt some afrin and take sinus meds but no, not safe. Then I read the Oct 16 board and one of the women took FENTANYL during labor. So WTF BODY for making Tylenol sinus and afrin not ok but Fentanyl ok.
Also hugs to all you ladies struggling with serious issues regarding meds...the second guessing cannot be fun and I hope you get answers AND relief soon.
My OBs list of meds I can take includes Afrin after first tri is over. I just used up my 3 days though and now I'm trying to get to bed and the Benadryl I took is doing nothing. Ugh.
@Kate08Young I'm pretty frustrated right now. I just got a call from my OB from a nurse who I don't think even read up on who she was talking to or what was going on. She first told me I didn't have enough time to be feeling this way from the medicine (right. Okay.) then ASKED ME IF I WAS PREGNANT. I took the phone off my ear and looked at it and said "really?" Then she tried to blame it on me being pregnant. Finally she said she would go talk to the Doctor and call me back.
In the midst of typing this, the lady called me back and told me if I stopped the medicine baby would be fine and to just stop taking it if it's doing me this way. If the crazy feelings persist I needed to come in. I asked three times if she was sure baby would be okay if I just stopped taking it and she said yes. So I'm stopping. I'm going to the doctor again on the 13th and I will discuss it further with her then.
Holy hell!!! I'm surprised she didn't feel you breathing fire though the phone! I'm sorry that you are going through this, but it sucks when people not doing there job/inconsiderate/judgmental make it even worse. Hang in there!
@Fauxpa I also go psycho on oral birth control. The only birth control that doesn't make me crazy is an IUD.
Everyone being so supportive of each other is making me all sappy. Which is funny, because I was just all annoyed and angry a minute ago. I'm so ready to have my non-emotional, brain working self back. I always forget how rough the 3rd tri is! It's so rough that when it comes time to get the baby out, I'm so desperate that I'd do pretty much anything. Just get it out and give me my sanity back!
Welp, after 2 hours in triage I am admitted. Probably a kidney infection. I'm on iv antibiotics for at least 24 hours, possibly all weekend. Dr is deciding whether to give me drugs to stop the contractions as well.
Still getting details and trying to come up with a plan for my 2yo. DH won't be able to sleep here so at least overnight DD gets to be in her normal place.
And the worst part, my TV doesn't work! Where do I submit a trouble ticket?!
I think I'm holding up alright emotionally. Last night I irrationally packed the baby's hospital bag...but of course not mine! Irrational because if baby does come early, we'd be transfered to a bigger city and she'd be there a while. So I made a list of stuff for DH to go get after I eat lunch.
Oh man! @sourlemon that is seriously no fun. And serious. Hopefully contrax stop and you keep baby in! Kidney infections are terrible:( I had one as a kid and still remember how awful it was. keep us posted!
Sorry I totally hijacked this thread! So contractions have basically stopped. Back pain is way lower already but still there when I pee. Trying to stay in good spirits. I don't think there's a big concern right now of preterm labor since things have been improving...so yay! Reading about preemies is scary so I don't recommend it.
DH is bringing me culvers for dinner...complete with my favorite concrete mixer! Then he's gonna be home with the kiddo for the night and hopefully I'll get some sleep.
Re: WTF Wednesday 10/5
It took me this long to get them to even check it, and I've had this medication for 2 whole days and I have taken 2 doses like a good little Guinea pig. I'm aware of the risks, and I've fretted about them whilst trying to get the doctor's nurses to stop patronizing me and take my concerns seriously.
However I'm the one inside my body and I know something's not right. I've been on a depressive, anxiety, anger fueled roller coaster all day. For instance, I'm furious right now for no particularly good reason. I was playing a game on my phone, lost the game, and felt rage. That's not normal. I'm getting really bitchy right now and that's not my normal either.
I'm still waiting for my doctor to call me back. Hopefully they will since they're set to close soon. My WTF was that I was not okay on these meds, not that I was not going to or willing to take meds.
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
I feel for you so much right now, because I know hormone stuff can really mess with a person (I have a similar reaction to birth control... literally psychotic). Please hang in there, and try not to stress too much about possible birth defects. I had a full on meltdown when I found out my levels were messed up and my endo said that while it can increase chances of defects it is not a sure thing. Also if the baby is measuring on track that is a really good sign. Sending you so many good calming vibes! Just know that you aren't crazy! I'll be thinking about you!
In the midst of typing this, the lady called me back and told me if I stopped the medicine baby would be fine and to just stop taking it if it's doing me this way. If the crazy feelings persist I needed to come in. I asked three times if she was sure baby would be okay if I just stopped taking it and she said yes. So I'm stopping. I'm going to the doctor again on the 13th and I will discuss it further with her then.
If you can see an endo, though, it might be worthwhile. That nurse is full of BS if she said you can't feel the effects after two days - it's a hormonal supplement with a short half life, it can absolutely be felt in a couple days! Hopefully you'll be feeling back to normal soon.
So WTF body again. And WTF self, why can't I tell what this crap is!? I had back labor with my first so you'd think I'd have some clue...but no.
Hugs to you @Austenista - I'm so glad they said you were able to stop taking the meds. I've been there too and it is certainly not pleasant.
Eaton started forcefully kicking DH who was trying to comfort me and that seemed to help lighten my mood. I just keep reading about how in the first trimester low thyroid can cause low IQ for about 19% of littles. I feel like I could have already ruined his life before he's even born. I really thought they checked thyroid when they check your blood in the beginning so when they said everything was great, I assumed it was. Then when I found out they didn't, I begged them to check and they said no, repeatedly. Finally they check it and now they say I need medicine but baby doesn't? I don't know what to think about that.
I'm of half a mind to just keep taking it and see if I continue to freak out. I can't decide if it's more irresponsible to stop taking it or to keep taking it, and that's incredibly frustrating and scary. Did the doctor herself say that it wouldn't impact baby one way or another or was that the nurse saying that, you know? Especially annoying since I called them at 1 o'clock and they called me back right before they closed so now I'm stuck ruminating and stressing over this and they're all gone home and moved on.
Now DH is all concerned too. But my belly isn't getting hard at all so I'm not sure this would be considered contractions...just super annoying pain. Idk. I'm gonna give it some time and decide. I just can't believe I can't tell what's going on.
Here is what I would do if I was in your situation take from it what you will: Because of your extreme reaction to the medication I would not take it anymore, but I would call my doc back tomorrow and demand that they refer you to an endo. Depending on what your levels are you may need to start back some sort of medicine but you definitely need someone who is much more knowledgeable in the thyroid department. It may be something as simple as just titrating you more slowly than the average patient. OB's and PCPs just don't really get it outside of "well if you are in these levels you should be good".
I completely understand the guilt, but just know that this is not your fault, and you are not crazy. The chances of anything being wrong with your LO are still extremely extremely low (trust me... I researched everything I possibly could. My levels have been extremely high during the majority of the pregnancy. I just KNEW that I had done serious damage to my baby.) I will also say what my endo told me... stay off of google, it isn't going to help anything.
It's so freaking frustrating figuring out what you can and cannot take! I would freaking live to sn9rt some afrin and take sinus meds but no, not safe. Then I read the Oct 16 board and one of the women took FENTANYL during labor. So WTF BODY for making Tylenol sinus and afrin not ok but Fentanyl ok.
Also hugs to all you ladies struggling with serious issues regarding meds...the second guessing cannot be fun and I hope you get answers AND relief soon.
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
Hang in there!
@Fauxpa I also go psycho on oral birth control. The only birth control that doesn't make me crazy is an IUD.
Everyone being so supportive of each other is making me all sappy. Which is funny, because I was just all annoyed and angry a minute ago. I'm so ready to have my non-emotional, brain working self back. I always forget how rough the 3rd tri is! It's so rough that when it comes time to get the baby out, I'm so desperate that I'd do pretty much anything. Just get it out and give me my sanity back!
Hope you got some good rest and are feeling much better/relaxed today......
Still getting details and trying to come up with a plan for my 2yo. DH won't be able to sleep here so at least overnight DD gets to be in her normal place.
And the worst part, my TV doesn't work! Where do I submit a trouble ticket?!
I think I'm holding up alright emotionally. Last night I irrationally packed the baby's hospital bag...but of course not mine! Irrational because if baby does come early, we'd be transfered to a bigger city and she'd be there a while. So I made a list of stuff for DH to go get after I eat lunch.
Hang in there, get those kidney clear!
TTC since 6/13
Diagnosed w/ PCOS 4/9/15 - R/E recommended lifestyle change
BFP 4/10/16 - DS born 12/16/2016
SURPRISE! BFP 3/8/18
keep us posted!
Me: 39 DH: 36
Married: Sept 2018
DS: December 2016
#2 EDD Feb 2020
DH is bringing me culvers for dinner...complete with my favorite concrete mixer! Then he's gonna be home with the kiddo for the night and hopefully I'll get some sleep.