October 2016 Moms

Unpopular Opinion 9/8/16

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  • MRSCORKER said:
    This seems like an UO from what I've seen but I don't mind the "Mommy's little monster" or "handsome like daddy" baby clothes. I think they're cute. I also don't mind character clothing or Disney themed stuff. 
    Definitely a UO in my opinion. Ughhhhh. Why can't they just make onesies and outfits just with a cute pattern and no words?!?!?!? 
    Haha! I'm not exclusively buying these types of clothes they just don't bother me. 

    Me: 32 & DH: 37
    Married: November 2014
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    BFP #2: 2/8/16 - EDD 10/20/16
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  • @MRSCORKER I'm with you! I have tons of onesies with funny sayings on them. I'm the target audience for those haha
  • @ibabyloveb87 Agreed! All of my friends know I "hate things that say things" so most of the outfits I've gotten have been just patterned. The ones with words were mostly returned :#
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  • Hahah while looking at the Carter's website the other day, my exact thought was, "Why must all these cute clothes have words on them?"
  • @scostel2 YES. I hate this time of year, FB is so annoying. Granted I didn't do the FIRST first day of school with my son since I didn't meet him till he was 12, but on his first day of high school I teared up and then got over it. I didn't blubber about it or get on FB and sob to everyone.

    @MRSCORKER I'm with you. Most of my baby's clothes have something written on them and I couldn't care less. It's cute when they're little and they won't be little for long. I'm not going to stress about what he's wearing, there will be plenty of that later in his life. Lol

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  • +1 on the onesies that say stuff

    "Mama's Little....."

    "Daddy's _____"  

    I can't.  



  • I don't understand why some moms think it is offensive and/or rude when coworkers make maternity leave sound similar to taking vacation. From their prospective, it is really the same thing in that you aren't in the office and your work is going to have to be picked up by someone else. More importantly, I feel like maternity leave is going to be a little like a vacation. Not that it will be easy or relaxing but I am so looking forward to being home with my new baby and not dealing with awful clients. If I am anxiously counting down, I can't really blame others for treating it like a good thing for me and a crappy thing for them because that is exactly what is happening.
  • @maf9866 I kind of agree with you on this.  I have a friend who sends me pictures of every little new thing her toddler does but every time it's followed by a sad face. I mean I get your baby is growing up, but at the same time, wouldn't you rather him achieve milestones than not?? I guess it's a bittersweet thing, and I'm sure I'll be sad my baby is getting older, but I am going to try to not send every little thing to my friends. If I feel like I need to share a milestone, I know my mom or my MIL will be glad to get the photo!
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  • KarenBM13KarenBM13 member
    edited September 2016
    @ball4768 definitely not directed at you! I apologize that you thought that. Btw, your coworker sounds like a witch. It actually stemmed from someone at work getting mad on my behalf because of the implication that my maternity leave is a fun thing. I completely agree with everyone's comments re: it being a necessity and the fact that the US's treatment of new mothers is appalling. I just think those things can be true and maternity leave can be something I am looking forward to and excited about. I just don't think it's insulting when people imply that my maternity leave is a nice thing so long as it isn't done in a belittling or disrespectful way. 
  • @Kaessi I'm with you on not wanting summer to send!!! Partly cause of clothes too... buying a whole new wardrobe was hard enough, but now I need to find cool-weather clothes to fit how my body will look for only like 6 weeks?! Ugh! 

    Also it seems like with working as much as possible to afford a baby (and going to bed at 9pm to have enough energy for it), summer has come and gone without me being able to enjoy it. I've been really sad about that! We live ten minutes from 2 gorgeous sandy beaches and I went ONCE this year. Normally I'm there like every other day! I know it's a good trade-off and all, but this was our first summer as a married couple and I hope it doesn't set any precedent for us in the years to come:(
  • I do have baby clothes that say things, I just don't really matter, unless they say something rude or inappropriate...

    about maternity leave, I get to have 12 weeks off, and some other perks like no Overtime, not being near welding machines (with this weather it feels like hell anywhere near them) no safety shoes... but my co workers and boss get it... they haven't been rude, they are always joking about it and they blame me for their cravings.

    My UO is that I actually don't like any pumpkin flavored food.... *runs and hide...*

  • @Kaessi - I could have written all those same things about why I don't want summer to end.  I'm very cold all the time and have a bit of S.A.D. as well.  I love the sun still being out at 8:30pm.  I'm very sorry about your mom, but hope that your LO will give you reason to enjoy October again (my DH has a similar opinion about April with his dad).

    My UO is that I dislike products going overboard on seasonal items.  Sometimes it's nice, but do we really need so many pumpkin spice, candy cane, jelly bean flavored items?  I guess they sell to someone though because there are more and more of these seasonal items each year.  I'd also like to have a -pumpkin spice filter on my social media accounts.  I'm over your pictures and messages of how you had your first PS latte or whatever.
  • NoraAuroraNoraAurora member
    edited September 2016
    First day of school: Meh, feel the way you feel. I've been loving the ones where the mom and/or dad post about the partying they're doing while the kids are finally out of the house, personally. 

    For those of you who hate the words on baby clothes: check out primary. They are kind of on the opposite spectrum (NO words, NO patterns at all) but good high quality stuff. 

    KarenBM13 said:
    I don't understand why some moms think it is offensive and/or rude when coworkers make maternity leave sound similar to taking vacation. From their prospective, it is really the same thing in that you aren't in the office and your work is going to have to be picked up by someone else. More importantly, I feel like maternity leave is going to be a little like a vacation. Not that it will be easy or relaxing but I am so looking forward to being home with my new baby and not dealing with awful clients. If I am anxiously counting down, I can't really blame others for treating it like a good thing for me and a crappy thing for them because that is exactly what is happening.

    Kudos for a good UO. I'm not trying to get personal here, but my guess is maybe you are a FTM? Either that or your previous baby/ies have been a piece of cake. Personally my 12 weeks with DS has left me with a degree of PTSD that is heavily coloring my current pregnancy, as well as my entire attitude toward this next baby's first 12 weeks.

    I have a job that is generally totally exhausting (physically and mentally) so I can definitely understand how looking forward to a change of pace is incredibly attractive. I hope that the reality of your recovery and your time with your LO closely match what you are imagining.  

    ETA: +1 to doulas being a waste of $$...with the possible exception of support for a natural birth. I have never personally wanted to experience natural childbirth though so I may not have room to weigh in on this one. 
  • @Kaessi yes!  I'm so sad to see summer end.  
    @mrszoess I get the appeal of a doula. It's really hard to communicate your wants and needs when you're in a lot of pain. And your husband/support person is trying to focus on you during labor and might be freaking out. The nurses have never met you before and half the time, the doctor who delivers you will be someone you've never spoken to before.  A doula is familiar with labor and delivery AND knows what you want from the experience.  I think i would have benefited from a doula with my first.  At the very least, she would have been a calming presence.  

    (Also, according to my hospital, the presence of a doula at delivery correlates with a reduction of medical interventions including epidural and c-sections and an increase in satisfaction with the birthing experience.)
  • On the subject of baby clothes ... I was adamant my child wouldn't wear clothes with a ton of words or characters on them. But once she was old enough to have an opinion, that's pretty much all she wanted! (She doesn't get a say on ALL her clothes, but obviously I want her to like/wear what we buy.)

    Now that we're having a boy, I just sorted through all the girl clothes I saved - tons of cute patterns and simple colors from newborn to about size 3 ... then it's an explosion of Disney princesses. :) 
  • scostel2 said:
    @KarenBM13 a lot of maternity leave (especially in the US where some people only get 6 weeks or less) is about recovering from the actual birth. Which is definitely not like a vacation in my opinion. I think of it more in line with my colleague who was out for 3 months for a knee replacement. No one was giving him shit about being "on vacation" even though he was also really looking forward to it. 
    This. The exact parameters of my maternity leave have yet to be defined, but I'll likely get 4 weeks or so. With the recovery and adjustment to life with a newborn, I hardly feel like I get a "vacation." Maybe if I got 6+ weeks, I'd feel differently. 
    @copperboom86 4 weeks! That is it?! I'm sorry but that doesn't even seem right!
  • @NoraAurora I truly am sorry you had a bad experience. I am a FTM so I definitely could be eating my words down the road. Haha. I did not mean to imply that maternity leave is comparable to a vacation except for the fact that it is a time out of the office that I am looking forward to. I probably should have everything just left the word vacation out altogether. My point way that I don't feel like colleagues acknowledging that I may be excited for maternity leave is inherently offensive, nor does it take away from the  fact that beginning motherhood is going to be hardwork. Life events can occupy multiple categories (exhausting and exciting for example) at the same time.

    Like you mentioned, I work an insane number of hours at a frustrating job where I am always on call for clients so I'm sure that colors my view as well. It is also why I'm not more active here.
  • CopperBoom86CopperBoom86 member
    edited September 2016
    @copperboom86 4 weeks! That is it?! I'm sorry but that doesn't even seem right!
    Oh the joys of living in a state where there are zero laws concerning maternity leave. I don't even qualify for FMLA because we have less than 50 employees. I get my usual two weeks paid vacation and my employer is "generously" allowing me 2 more weeks unpaid. After that, they said I could come in a few hours a day to get my work done and they would pay me accordingly, but I still haven't decided if I want to do that or not. We'll probably be broke by then, so I'm thinking I"ll just come back full time. 
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  • KarenBM13 said:
    @NoraAurora I truly am sorry you had a bad experience. I am a FTM so I definitely could be eating my words down the road. Haha. I did not mean to imply that maternity leave is comparable to a vacation except for the fact that it is a time out of the office that I am looking forward to. I probably should have everything just left the word vacation out altogether. My point way that I don't feel like colleagues acknowledging that I may be excited for maternity leave is inherently offensive, nor does it take away from the  fact that beginning motherhood is going to be hardwork. Life events can occupy multiple categories (exhausting and exciting for example) at the same time.

    Like you mentioned, I work an insane number of hours at a frustrating job where I am always on call for clients so I'm sure that colors my view as well. It is also why I'm not more active here.
    Well said
  • emt87emt87 member
    edited September 2016
    I also hate all of the clothes with words on them. We have only gotten a few items as gifts with sayings on them, and most of these were part of a set, so I kept the cute pants and other parts without words, and just donated the onesies that had sayings on them. Is it really so hard to just make cute patterned clothes for babies without it saying something silly? 

    On the doula subject, I get that this is often something that you either really want or think is a huge waste. For me it is less about having her there to help communicate my wishes to the doctors/nurses, and more about having extra support there for not only me but my husband. He tends to get really overwhelmed when i am in pain or sick, and I know that he will be able to use some support during labor in order to be able to support me. I am planning a med-free birth, and my doula has lots of great techniques for coping with the pain, some we learned in birth class, but I'm sure in the middle of labor I will need some reminders/suggestions on what to try next. Also, like @ignoscemihi mentioned, the presence of a doula has been show to correlate to shorter labors with less interventions, and the mother feeling more satisfied with her labor experience. 


  • @emt87 I share your opinion on doulas. My family stresses me the EFF out so I knew I didn't want them present for delivery but I felt like both H and I could use some additional support, especially if it's a drawn out process. We found a doula in training who offered her services for free because she needs experience to get certified so it was the best case scenario for us. No wasted money if it turns out it wasn't a necessity. 

    Me: 32 & DH: 37
    Married: November 2014
    TTC #1 Since: October 2015
    BFP #1: 11/18/15 - CP
    BFP #2: 2/8/16 - EDD 10/20/16
    IT'S A BOY!!!!
    DS Born 10/16/16

  • @emt87 - I agree with you 100% and wish I had a doula for this birth for the very same reasons you are valuing yours! I want to try natural birth (I would even go for home birth if I wasn't 38 and high-risk (UO!)) and my hubs is very overwhelmed emotionally by the birth process - especially seeing me in that kind of pain. I truly would value a calming presence of a practiced doula to help soothe both my fear and pain AND my hubs' as well. Many of my friends have had home births and I have really inspired by their ability to conquer their own pain and fear during childbirth - but... they have ALL credited their doula for their success.

    @CopperBoom86-I also don't qualify for FMLA. However, my doctor gave me a note excusing me for 6-8 weeks depending on the delivery (CS or Vag) and then I requested additional "personal leave" for 4-6 weeks for a total of 12 weeks. My employer still hasn't approved me, but I wonder if a letter from your OB would obligate your employer to grant at least 6-8 weeks... ?

    My true UO is that I love cats and dogs are annoying and loud and smelly.

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  • I love all the back to school facebook posts (maybe that's the real UO), and I am sad when my kids go back.  I cried (after they were gone and the had no idea about it) because regardless of how old they are, they are my babies and while it's natural and the order of life, every day they leave the house and go to school is a day they need their mama a little less.  My four year old told me yesterday that he didn't cry at lunch and that was the first day he didn't cry at lunch since school started and I'm so proud of him for not crying, but also a little sad because he recognizes this now to be his new normal.  But I digress,  sending kids to school with tons of strangers-both adults and kids- is stressful and you really do wonder how they go from being a tiny blob of a baby to a self sufficient four year old in such a short time! 

    A doula would not be for me.  I'm pretty good at articulating my needs in and out of pain and I know (from past experiences) that my husband manages to do an amazing job of making them known if I cant.  Also, natural birth isn't really my thing, I'm all about the drugs. Bring them on.

    Words on shirts- I don't mind these either, but I do wish there was more stuff that was just plain or patterned. 
  • @uponastar16 I really hope you aren't working today based on these time stamps bc you need to rest at some point! 
  • Haha @mrszoess I napped from like...8-10, then 2-6! Lol it'll be nice whenever I can get this baby and I to both STTN in the future! Until then (er, really prob til next week) I'm saving sick days
  • no stress today. you can live vicariously through my last 6 hours ;) 
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